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T-Mobile Spends $8 Billion as Big Winner of FCC Auction (cnet.com)

T-Mobile, Dish Network and cable giant Comcast emerged as the big winners in the government's wireless spectrum auction. From a report: The Federal Communications Commission announced the winners of its $19.8 billion spectrum auction Thursday. T-Mobile spent $8 billion in the auction and won the biggest number of licenses, according to the FCC. Dish Network was in second, committing $6.2 billion, and Comcast spent a total of $1.7 billion. Verizon, which had committed ahead of time to participating in the auction, did not bid, the FCC said. The broadcast incentive spectrum auction has been one of the agency's most complex and ambitious auctions to date. The auction, which began last year, was conducted over two major stages. A so-called backwards auction took place last year in which TV broadcasters agreed to give up wireless spectrum that the government later sold in a so-called forward auction to wireless providers.

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  1. Aging T-Mobile get a lift and implants... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...in a bid to appear more attractive to someone, ANYONE, who might potentially buy her out. This is literally an asset acquisition solely for the purpose of getting taken over.

    1. Re:Aging T-Mobile get a lift and implants... by ZiakII · · Score: 2

      Doubt it when the stock triples in 2 years

    2. Re:Aging T-Mobile get a lift and implants... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...in a bid to appear more attractive to someone, ANYONE, who might potentially buy her out

      LOL @ comparing T-Mobile to an aging woman, compared to corporate dinosaurs like Verizon and AT&T (SBC).

  2. Dunno by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    Maybe this is good, T-Mobile might have better coverage and be better able to compete with Verizon for people that need that. Verizon not getting any new spectrum has to be good for competition.

  3. Slave! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But the government works for the people, not just companies that have more money right?

    1. Re:Slave! by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      That depends on your interpretation of Citizens United v. FEC

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  4. In other words, Tmobile subscribers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just got taxed $8B by the government

    get the government out of the wireless business

    1. Re:In other words, Tmobile subscribers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not possible when only the government can regulate the spectrum. This is a national resource and not something we would want to give away. I don;t understand people who hate regulation. You would be getting payed with company store credit if it weren't for the government.

    2. Re:In other words, Tmobile subscribers by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      We could operate a lottery system. Everyone applies and we draw names out of a hat. A big business like Sprint/Verizon/AT&T/T-mobile would end up with different pieces of the spectrum every year (or however frequently you operate the lottery). But it would be at no cost.
      Such a system would probably destroy big carriers and favor independent carriers, but small carriers likely would have difficulty raising capital for expansion or improvements and they would need an industry organization to standardize inter-operation.
      I just want to point out there are multiple ways to handle this problem, and all carry advantages and disadvantages. It is inaccurate to assume the current process is the only way to do this.

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  5. Why would Verizon even bother? by jandrese · · Score: 1

    Verizon is swimming in spectrum that they aren't even using, why would they go and buy even more?

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    1. Re:Why would Verizon even bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To prevent their competition from using it, of course.

    2. Re:Why would Verizon even bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Verizon is swimming in spectrum that they aren't even using,and neither are AT&T, T-Mobile, or Sprint. Why didn't they go and buy even more?

      FTFY.

    3. Re:Why would Verizon even bother? by Woldscum · · Score: 2

      Exactly this. Verizon owns all of the old analog TV spectrum also. Sitting on it to prevent startup competition.

    4. Re:Why would Verizon even bother? by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Slight correction, they LEASE that spectrum. In an uncorrupt world they would be forced to meaningfully utilize it for the benefit the American citizenry or lose the license.

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    5. Re:Why would Verizon even bother? by jandrese · · Score: 1

      AT&T maybe, but T-Mo has been spectrum constrained really badly for almost a decade now. They really needed this.

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    6. Re:Why would Verizon even bother? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Has anyone suggested to the FCC to have a Use-it-or-lose-it clause? Although not enforced much anymore, InterNIC/ARIN would take big IPv4 blocks away if it determined you weren't using them.

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    7. Re:Why would Verizon even bother? by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      Exactly this. Verizon owns all of the old analog TV spectrum also. Sitting on it to prevent startup competition.

      Er, no they don't. Verizon sold that 700 MHz spectrum to T-Mobile for $2.4 billion in 2014. T-Mobile is buying even more of what they already own. It's called LTE Band 12, and it's supported by the Nexus 6 and the Samsung Galaxy S6, among others. They've put up dozens of towers that use that spectrum, mostly in California and the northeast, but also Minnesota, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, east Texas, and the southern tip of Florida.

      T-Mobile's network actually IS getting better, specifically because of this spectrum, but of course it's a painfully slow process. Siting and constructing a cellular tower is difficult, especially when the country is littered with lunatics so bored they have to invent psychosomatic allergies to radio waves.

  6. Re:Auctioning off things they don't own by Aighearach · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because they're not a "they," they're part of "us" and it is something that we own so stop trying to covet it as if it was just yours personally. You're not King, and neither is anybody else. Get over it.

  7. Licensing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Instead of buying up the spectrum, this should be done as licenses that can be renewed, provided conditions are met. If you're buying up a limited resources, and there's only so much wireless spectrum available, the government (read: the people) should get to heavily restrict how those resources are used. That means enforcing net neutrality and prohibiting data caps. In the case of wired connections, there is usually room for a lot more infrastructure, and the transmission medium is privately owned rather than a public resource. In either case, net neutrality should be enforced, because it also raises issues about competition. But in the case of the wireless spectrum, the public should get to ban data caps and because the businesses are using a limited resource that really belongs to the public.

    1. Re:Licensing by EndlessNameless · · Score: 1

      You need certain long-term guarantees when you're spending billions of dollars on infrastructure that uses the spectrum.

      The allocation is important to phone and tablet manufacturers, too, as they must include appropriate antennas in their devices.

      I agree with imposing reasonable restrictions on how the bandwidth is used, but you cannot realistically implement short-term allocation.

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    2. Re:Licensing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It stops belonging to the public the moment the $8B check clears

    3. Re:Licensing by Holi · · Score: 1

      Spectrum isn't sold it is leased, so it is as you want.

      http://wireless.fcc.gov/licens...

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    4. Re:Licensing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Idiot, They are not sold they are leased, usually for 10 year terms before they need to be renewed.

    5. Re:Licensing by Holi · · Score: 1

      8 years seems to be average for their leases.

      http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsAp...

      See the section titled dates.

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    6. Re:Licensing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one in their right mind would suggest that the government be able to yank a companies wireless licensing at the drop of a hat after they had sunk millions or billions into it. But they should have to show that they're actually using it in a reasonable way not just sitting on it to keep competitors out of the market (I think there were some indications of this after one of the auctions a few years ago). Also some parts of various spectrum should be set aside for unlicensed use (like baby monitors, wireless routers, etc).

    7. Re:Licensing by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      There would always be a loop hole. Like if you could keep the spectrum allocation if you use it for R&D, they'd just run some bullshit on it periodically at very little cost, send a ping once a month or something.

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  8. Sweet! by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    I'm on T-Mobile. As long as this doesn't' result in my rates getting jacked it means their service might finally be AT&T/Verizon level. Heck, even if you're not on T-Mobile it's good news. Spotty coverage is what keeps a lot of folks off T-Mobile and reduces their ability to compete. Now if we can just stop these mega mergers we'll have some real competition.

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    1. Re:Sweet! by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

      No current T-Mobile devices can use this spectrum and there are no towers for it. So wait a few years, buy a new phone, and then it will benefit you. If it is in your area.

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    2. Re:Sweet! by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      I don't see how this is going to help coverage significantly more than band 12 has and that's not even fully rolled out yet.

      Spotty coverage is what keeps me from using it here the LTE speeds have been great anywhere I could get a LTE signal and while that's most places there are still enough places that are no service areas to be significant.

      Note I don't have anything that will support t-mobile's band 12 yet but I'm talking about outdoors coverage where there should be little difference in coverage between their other bands

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    3. Re:Sweet! by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

      I left AT&T due to spotty coverage. I tried out T-Mobile and they had great coverage except in 1 spot - my office, which is pretty important. So I switched to Verizon, which has OK coverage at work and poor coverage at my home. T-Mobile's CTO, who replies on twitter, told me they'd be upgrading their network near my office next year. If it happens, I'd switch back to them in a heartbeat.

  9. Re:Auctioning off things they don't own by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

    It's basically extortion.

    Just like most of what they do.

  10. Re:Auctioning off things they don't own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you really that stupid? Can you really not understand the concept of a shared resource? Or maybe you think whoever builds the biggest transmitter should be able to control ALL of the radio spectrum. Nope, going back to my original thought, you're just stupid.

  11. Again Trump destroys America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All he cares about is money and not people. This proves he hates us so much. Those Republicans are selling our property to make money. To make money.

    1. Re: Again Trump destroys America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The incentive auction was a product of the Obama administration, you fucking dipshit liberal tool.

    2. Re:Again Trump destroys America by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

      They did not SELL it. It belongs to the USA and is licensed to these carriers. If they abuse or misuse or don't use it, it can in theory, be taken away from them.

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  12. I like T-Mobile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work for them, and THEY DON'T DRUG TEST!! This means I can go on bathroom breaks and smoke a crack rock, and NOBODY CARES! =) Also, they don't make you fill out a 1099.

  13. Re:Auctioning off things they don't own by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    Are you really that thick, or are you just pretending?

  14. Re:Auctioning off things they don't own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's mostly a function of you being a fuckwit. Uneducated and smelly. Your parents hate you and so do I.

  15. Re:Auctioning off things they don't own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So... how do you suppose that we distribute $8B? Divide it by 300 million US citizen? Each of us would get $20 check in the mail? What if you don't have a checking account like 7% of American families?
    If US government keeps the money, it'll go to the general fund and probably reduce the debt by that much. Common citizen's children will be less burdened by our debts.

  16. Re:Auctioning off things they don't own by sexconker · · Score: 1

    Divide it equally among all taxpayers (people who actually pay in, not just those who file and get handouts).

  17. your soul sold to the highest bidder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    purely evil sell out of the american people's free spectrum by the federal government

    anti competitive oligopoly's remain in tact

    bombing syria will fix this!

  18. Re:Auctioning off things they don't own by kpainter · · Score: 1
    Ha Ha! We rack up $442B/year just in interest on our debt alone. We owe $19.8T right now. Distribute $8B. You make me laugh.

    http://www.nationaldebtclocks....

  19. Why stop there? by Sla$hPot · · Score: 0

    Applying this scheme to the work place would increase production. I'm already doing that (as much as I can) :-)

  20. Re:Auctioning off things they don't own by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    The government uses the free market to resolve access to a rivalrous good like radio spectrum, yet some libertarian crank still complains.

    Rivalrous & Excludable: Private goods (food, clothing, cars, parking spaces)
    Rivalrout & Non-excludable: Common-pool resources (fish stocks, timber, coal)
    Non-rivalrous & Excludable: Club goods (cinemas, private parks, satellite television reception)
    Non-rivalrous & Non-excludable: Public goods (free-to-air television reception, air, national defense)

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  21. Good for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now call me when they figure out what the fuck they mean by unlimited data and maintain that consistently.

    1. Re:Good for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that both human life and the speed of light are finite, there can never be 'unlimited' for the most pedantic of people.