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Google Is Working On a Tool For Managing Job Applicants (axios.com)

Posted by msmash on from the LinkedIn-competitor? dept.

Google is quietly testing "Google Hire," a job applicant tracking system that appears to rival services like Greenhouse and Lever, Axios is reporting. From the report: The service lets employers post job listings, then accept and manage applications, according to job listing links spotted by Axios reader Colin Heilbut. So far, several tech companies seem to be using (or testing) Google Hire, including Medisas, Poynt, DramaFever, SingleHop, and CoreOS.

64 comments

  1. Nobody else can get it right... by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

    So google might as we take a swing at it? I have seen plenty of different programs out there designed to make it easier for companies to screen applications, and the truth is none of them work. Every last one is fucking worthless; discarding too many good applicants and letting too many awful ones through. To make it worse the HR people almost universally have zero understanding of how it works or why it doesn't work, which only increases the failure rate.

    Granted google is orders of magnitude better at NLP than the companies that have been selling this shitty software for all these years, but that doesn't mean they'll get it right, either.

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    1. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Scratching your own itch is a good start toward making good software. They have a fair shot - they do seem to hire an awful lot of people.

    2. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Bomarc · · Score: 1

      The more 'automation' the put up front, the more people will eventually learn how to game the system. As you point out: ' discarding too many good applicants and letting too many awful ones through.'
      I've also seen many systems that "don't work" for my employment, fields that are required that I don't know (or have or are not applicable).

    3. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. I work for a software company that makes recruiting software, and we also resell three other solutions including myStaffingPro which is owned by Paychex and Taleo which is owned by Oracle. The resume upload and onboarding of new employees is just a mess on all four products. We provide great customer service and a lot of handholding, but our customer's HR departments just don't understand what they're doing. The only thing we've found that helps is a PDF that they print with checkboxes for each step. The HR people literally can't do their steps without it despite doing the same thing several times a week.

    4. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HR departments just don't understand what they're doing.

      The first thing we do, let's kill all the HR people.

    5. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a unique snowflake and I have unique itches. No one will use my software if it scratches an itch which nobody else has. And if no one will use my software than I won't get the attention I deserve for making it. You understand my dilemma. Software just isn't worth making.

    6. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      They have a fair shot - they do seem to hire an awful lot of people.

      I was under the impression that hiring has slowed down in recent years. When I did a one-month stint in inventory in 2008, Google was hiring 300+ people per week and equipment came in on Monday to go out the door on Friday.

    7. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Naturally hiring has slowed now that Trump has created 100% full employment and everyone who is employable is already employed. Which by some clerical error includes you.

    8. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Which by some clerical error includes you.

      No clerical error. Congress fully funded my five-year contract when Obama was president. I'm doing such a great job that my contracting agency gave me an extra month of pay as a Christmas bonus last year.

    9. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      So you're a 300 pound lardo hired for the disabled worker quota and funded by the affirmative action niigger.

    10. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      So you're a 300 pound lardo hired for the disabled worker quota and funded by the affirmative action niigger.

      Not quite. I weigh 350 pounds (think football player). Although my hearing loss in one ear and speech impediment could be considered a disability by some, I never let it stop me from getting ahead in life. Yes, I'm the only white person at my job.

    11. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, right, you have one of those psychiatric conditions where you're unaware of your disability, and nobody around you is allowed to mention it.

    12. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      [...] you have one of those psychiatric conditions where you're unaware of your disability [...]

      I'm not interested in playing the victim game. I'm a winner, not a loser.

      [...] nobody around you is allowed to mention it.

      People asked me about my so-called disability all the time. If you're not being a prick about it, we can have a good conversation. For example, I explained to a parent that I was fortunate to get out of school before the medication craze became popular. Instead I suffered from repeated blood tests by a doctor who had an arrangement with a medical lab and a fondness for shoving his fat finger up my fat ass.

    13. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing you're winning at is megalomania.

    14. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      The only thing you're winning at is megalomania.

      Now you're confusing me with Trump.

    15. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cut yourself with your edginess.

    16. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus Christ man, give it a rest. Revisionist history for self glorification left and right. Pathological lying is your actual "disability".

      Last week you got into an internet fight about you claiming to be unemployed in 2008 and you rebuffing that you worked at google that year. Now you say it was just a month. You have also said that you make good money and that you work for the government in a high cost of living area making less than half of the market rate, something a McDonalds store manager makes. You have also said you work in infosec while claiming you are starting your study of entry level certs.

      What is it going to be next week?

    17. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Jesus Christ man, give it a rest. Revisionist history for self glorification left and right. Pathological lying is your actual "disability".

      Last week you got into an internet fight about you claiming to be unemployed in 2008 and you rebuffing that you worked at google that year. Now you say it was just a month. You have also said that you make good money and that you work for the government in a high cost of living area making less than half of the market rate, something a McDonalds store manager makes. You have also said you work in infosec while claiming you are starting your study of entry level certs.

      What is it going to be next week?

      Stop misrepresenting my positions.

    18. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you do the position where you suck your own cock. Sure your giant fat gut makes it hard to bend over but you should still be able to fit the tip of your dick in your mouth. Your cock is long and hard enough to reach your mouth.

    19. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Can you do the position where you suck your own cock. Sure your giant fat gut makes it hard to bend over but you should still be able to fit the tip of your dick in your mouth. Your cock is long and hard enough to reach your mouth.

      Sorry, I don't do yoga.

    20. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude your being trolled. Tell him to fuck off and move on.

    21. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      dude your being trolled. Tell him to fuck off and move on.

      But I love playing with the trolls! ;)

    22. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by swillden · · Score: 1

      They have a fair shot - they do seem to hire an awful lot of people.

      I was under the impression that hiring has slowed down in recent years. When I did a one-month stint in inventory in 2008, Google was hiring 300+ people per week and equipment came in on Monday to go out the door on Friday.

      It hasn't.

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    23. Re:Nobody else can get it right... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Domain-specific knowledge, you moron.

    24. Re: Nobody else can get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You misrepresent yourself. 350 # on 1500 calories a day, while "powerlifting"? For what was it, three years and no weight loss? Sure, sure you were.

      Sure, you look like a football player, one that injured his back a two hundred and fifty pounds ago in pee wee league maybe.

      Winning. Yeah, sure you are. Keep telling yourself that as you go home alone to eat that "1500" calories in hopes the rope will hang you instead of decapitating your fat ass.

    25. Re: Nobody else can get it right... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You misrepresent yourself. 350 # on 1500 calories a day, while "powerlifting"? For what was it, three years and no weight loss? Sure, sure you were.

      Stop misrepresenting my positions.

      Sure, you look like a football player, one that injured his back a two hundred and fifty pounds ago in pee wee league maybe.

      Top 5 Heaviest Players in the NFL
      https://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/nfl/top-5-heaviest-players-in-the-nfl.aspx

      Keep telling yourself that as you go home alone to eat that "1500" calories in hopes the rope will hang you instead of decapitating your fat ass.

      You're sick in the head. Get professional help.

  2. Discontinued Google Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least there's a Wikipedia category for that now.

  3. Differentiating feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also, it generates random "gotcha" questions and scores the responses.

  4. Remove old jobs from public job list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope after a job has been filled or cancelled, the tool will remove it from the public job list. Or else prompt once a month: "Hey hiring manager, this job has been up more than six months. Should I remove it from the public job list?"

  5. DA GOOGER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just use all the buzzwords on your job app whether you know them or not!

  6. Remove FAKE jobs from public job list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about the jobs that never existed in the first place, there was no intention of ever filling them, there was no hiring manager involved, and the listings existed only to make HR look busy?

    1. Re:Remove FAKE jobs from public job list by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      What about the jobs that never existed in the first place, there was no intention of ever filling them, there was no hiring manager involved, and the listings existed only to make HR look busy?

      Those jobs are easy to spot. They typically have a requirement for five years of experience in an technology that came out six months earlier.

    2. Re:Remove FAKE jobs from public job list by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      they are for H1B's and there is no intention of ever filling them with an USC.

    3. Re:Remove FAKE jobs from public job list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the process is well documented:

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

      Every procedure designed in the video, explaining how to game the H1B syste to hire cheap immigrants instead of more expensive Americans, still works as described.

    4. Re:Remove FAKE jobs from public job list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the process is well documented:

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

      Every procedure designed in the video, explaining how to game the H1B syste to hire cheap immigrants instead of more expensive Americans, still works as described.

      I hope Trump and his lawyers know about this video.

  7. patented age detection algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google is innovating in this space by using a patented algorithm to guess the age of each applicant. Any applicant over 30 is immediately deleted.

    1. Re:patented age detection algorithm by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Only if you apply direct to Google. Contracting agencies are more flexible about age. I worked at Google in my late 30's and early 40's as a contractor.

    2. Re:patented age detection algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet you jizzed on your screen after you typed that.

    3. Re:patented age detection algorithm by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I bet you jizzed on your screen after you typed that.

      Why would I ruin a $3,000 Dell laptop at work?

    4. Re:patented age detection algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet you jizzed on your screen after you typed that.

      What the actual fuck, dude! Did you think that was funny? Cause it was not funny. Dumbass.

    5. Re:patented age detection algorithm by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Google wasn't the first. JobRivet explicitly does this, advertising themselves as a job site for young people.

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    6. Re:patented age detection algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They'll also add an algorithm to detect whether an applicant is a US citizen. If the applicant is a US citizen, the applicant will be rejected.

    7. Re: patented age detection algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound upset. Are you gonna be okay?

    8. Re:patented age detection algorithm by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      OTOH, you're interviewed by Jenny Aguter

  8. Don't bother Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is not strategic to Google nor anything close to a core service. If we've learned anything from Google it's that if it strays too far from the core competency or isn't a shiny object (which this clearly would not be), the devs that built it will get bored, move to new projects and nobody else will want to pick it up. Abort now to avoid killing it in 2 years.

  9. Microsoft vs. Google Hiring Processes by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    The Microsoft hiring system I had first hand experience back in 2005. I was working on a six-week contract at Sony to test what would become the Reader. Two weeks into the current assignment I started searching for my next contract. Five Microsoft recruiters contacted me and my resume floated for a month before I discovered that each of the hiring managers had hired their drinking buddy for the available position. Microsoft HR requires five applicants be interviewed before the beer drinking buddy can get hired.

    As for Google, I never went through the front door to experience their "jumping through the hoops" interview process. I came through the back door through a contracting agency for the IT help desk in 2008 and building out a data center in 2011.

    1. Re:Microsoft vs. Google Hiring Processes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      each of the hiring managers had hired their drinking buddy for the available position. Microsoft HR requires five applicants be interviewed before the beer drinking buddy can get hired.

      I'm familiar with the 5 applicants requirement. They do it to avoid hiring managers just "hiring their drinking buddy". Maybe what happened to you was that the "drinking buddy" is someone the hiring manager had professional experience with and knew what he/she was getting vs. rolling the dice with someone who interviews well but otherwise might be good or bad.

    2. Re:Microsoft vs. Google Hiring Processes by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Maybe what happened to you was that the "drinking buddy" is someone the hiring manager had professional experience with and knew what he/she was getting vs. rolling the dice with someone who interviews well but otherwise might be good or bad.

      Five recruiters led me by the nose for four weeks. I was pissed. I took my revenge on them by holding the last round of phone calls in the men restroom at lunch time. Only time I had a job interview at Microsoft was for a TV division (IIRC) that got spun off in 2014. I generally don't talk to Microsoft recruiters.

    3. Re:Microsoft vs. Google Hiring Processes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Call it the "Bataan death march," not "jumping through hoops."

    4. Re:Microsoft vs. Google Hiring Processes by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Call it the "Bataan death march," not "jumping through hoops."

      Google's hiring practices may have change since the last time I looked at it. Probably because Google and other tech companies are looking away from the universities to hire people without degrees.

      https://www.fastcompany.com/3069259/why-more-tech-companies-are-hiring-people-without-degrees

    5. Re:Microsoft vs. Google Hiring Processes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked at Microsoft back in the 90s. The hiring process was simple. It was a competition.

      The top three candidates for any position were hired. One would be fired within a couple weeks, the second would be let go at three months.

      This competition was continued in the stacked ranking where every employee in a given team was ranked, and the bottom 10% fired each year. At which point the cycle began again with hiring 3 more people for each open position...

  10. Fantastic! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't wait to be instantly disqualified for a position by an unfeeling piece of software that I indirectly helped bring to the market! ;)

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    1. Re:Fantastic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm trying to figure out if it will be better or worse than an HR intern quietly setting the minorities aside...

    2. Re:Fantastic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Damn it. I knew I should have changed my name to Shoneeka Patel.

  11. Spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck google's data empire and govt love. nuff said.

  12. Great by SnarkSide · · Score: 1

    Let me guess, this system will help everyone except white males who don't have advanced degrees. Please Google, don't willingly hand the keys to the kingdom to the SJWs trying to turn America into a sea of socialist mediocrity.

    1. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me guess, this system will help everyone except white males

      Stop right there. White males who have advanced degrees are unemployable for their ancestors kept wommn and ngggers down. Rich educated white men are on the receiving end of justice which will turn the tables on them and ensure they waste their money on education and die in poverty.

  13. Worried about msft and LinkedIn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This looks like the first step towards LinkedIn? Or maybe *because* LinkedIn is now a msft property, Google can't use it? LinkedIn recruiter is very featureful, and worth it for posting, hunting and processing applicants.

  14. Google can't even manage its own applicant flow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it works like Google's own in-house tool, it will receive thousands of applications per advertised job, ignore nearly all of them, and conveniently only end up hiring foreign nationals on H-1B visas.

  15. Re: Google can't even manage its own applicant flo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Closest to AI for matching jobs and people
    Check out www.pocketrecruiter.com

  16. Fuck google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Crawl back into your hole worm.

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