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Qualcomm Collected Partial iPhone Royalties Despite Legal Battle With Apple (fortune.com)

From a report: Qualcomm continued to collect some royalties for Apple's use of its wireless technology in iPhones last year despite dueling lawsuits between the two mobile giants, cheering Qualcomm investors who feared that the payments had entirely dried up. Qualcomm said on Wednesday that Apple's contract manufacturers including Foxconn paid royalties, although they withheld around $1 billion from the undisclosed total amount due. The amount withheld equaled the amount Qualcomm withheld from Apple last year under a separate agreement to cooperate on mobile technology that has since expired.

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  1. who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    apple and android are the same shit. what we need is open source smartphones, like the ubuntu phone was supposed to be. unfortunately it had to be boycotted by apple https://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/canonical-says-apple-bought-all-the-sapphire-displays

    looks like canonical wasn't able to succeed but at least they were able to scare apple.

    1. Re: who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No sweetie, you're just a pretender. You're not gay unless you enjoy being gang-banged by all the open source pretenders that claim that Android is open. Nothing like pretending you're open while closing all your sphincters as much as possible to make being violated enjoyable.

    2. Re:who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two things:

      1. Oh no, all the sapphire displays were bought by a competitor? USE GORILLA GLASS LIKE EVERY OTHER PHONE.
      2. If Apple bought all these 4.5 inch sapphire displays, where are they? They haven't shipped an iPhone with a sapphire display, even after spending hundreds of millions on building their own sapphire manufacturing plant where the contractor running it went bust. Some Apple Watch models have a sapphire display, but that wouldn't account for what Canonical claimed.

      Maybe making a smartphone is hard, and they couldn't hack it? Wouldn't be the first time they were ambitious and failed.

    3. Re:who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apple and android are the same shit. what we need is open source smartphones ...

      First, you don't get to define what "we" need. When you reach adulthood you may come to realize this is true.
      Other people have different needs and you cannot possibly speak for everyone, with respect to their needs.

      An open source phone will be fraught with hassles that most users do not want or need. Ask anyone who has
      tried to use a Linux machine as his or her only computer, and you will discover that the hassles involved make
      the overwhelming majority return to a Windows or Apple machine. This is the REAL world, not to be confused
      with the childishly unrealistic dream world you inhabit.

  2. And then they quabble about GPL's legal risks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's infuriating to see that those same greedy corps whining about GPL's legal risks while happily waging those billion-heavy "intellectual poverty" wars.

    Worst of all is to see some from our very community parroting this FUD.

    1. Re:And then they quabble about GPL's legal risks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's infuriating to see that those same greedy corps whining about GPL's legal risks while happily waging those billion-heavy "intellectual poverty" wars.

      Worst of all is to see some from our very community parroting this FUD.

      Thanks for comparing apples and zebras. Large corporations fighting over billions of dollars have nothing to do with any claims regarding legal risks incurred by using the GPL - even if those risks don't exist. Especially if those risks don't exist.

      It's better to keep quiet and perhaps be thought of as an ignorant fool than it is to open your pie hole and remove all doubt.

    2. Re:And then they quabble about GPL's legal risks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that you, Ballmer?

    3. Re:And then they quabble about GPL's legal risks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that you, Stallman?

    4. Re:And then they quabble about GPL's legal risks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Legal risks are separate, the real cost of open source is the ridiculous personnel cost and inability to change once you start on that track. It tricks people into thinking "free" means $0 cost but really it is $M cost due at any time and in any amount; compared to commercially licensed and formally supported software with contractual help on a fixed cost.

  3. Open-source smartphone by DrYak · · Score: 2

    apple and android are the same shit. what we need is open source smartphones

    Android ITSELF *IS* open-source.
    The things which are not open-source are :
    - the drivers for hardware (so you're limited to whatever linux kernel the chipset vendor supplied to the handset manufacturer)
    - the fuckton of pre-installed bloatware by the constructor
    - the "Google Playstoe Service" if the handset went for an official commercial Google certification
    (or whatever else services and ecosystem replaces it if the constructor decided to go its own way. Such Amazon's service)
    - the whole booting process isn't open-source friendly, usually due to firmware signing (tivo-isation) preventing you the end-users to exerce the freedoms that GPL is supposed to grant you.

    But the core of android, which gives you things such as LineagoOS (formely CyanogenMod) and Replicant (basically a free/libre only android distribution).

    So android isn't the (main) problem. The problem is constructors who wants to lock the smartphone down, partly out of obligation (except for TI platforms, on most other platforms such as Qualcomm the modem and main CPU aren't as well separated - in some the modem is even the northbridge of the phone. And legally, that part is controlled by the wireless service provider holding the license for the band, not by the user), partly out of greed (bloatware !).

    like the ubuntu phone was supposed to be.

    Part of the problem that killed Ubuntu Phone is the same that Windows 10 Phone is still having : no app ecosystem.
    Android and iOS ecosystems have basically won the game.
    No Random Joe Sixpack User is going to use a smartphone OS that doesn't have tons of apps.
    And no developper is ever going to develop yet another version for a OS that doesn't have any significant amount of users, they'll only focus on the 2 big vendors.
    Canonical threw the towel before managing to tackle the problem.
    And Microsoft never managed to find a way to tap into these ecosystems (well luckily for us, that failed attempt brought us at least WSL, so it's not a loss for everyone).
    (Palm/HP webOS had a different problem : they bet on the wrong horse. They worked to keep compatibility with the legacy PalmOS ecosystem, but by the time the smartphone hit the market, that martket was dwindling against iOS. By the time they licensed Android app support it was to late in the lifecycle)

    Luckily there *are* other alternatives now.
    Mer is ensemble of core component to build GNU/Linux smartphone suites (it's the descendant of Maemo/Meego).
    Sailfish OS by Jolla is a smartphone OS building on Mer (it's a cousin of Samsung's Tizen, etc.)
    Sailfish OS is already nearly entirely licensed under an opensource license. The components which aren't yet are parts of the user interface, which are going to be officially opensourced in the future, and whose source is accessible anyway, because their are written in QML+Javascript (thus end-users can already modify it and share patches, which in practice brings nearly a good enough approximation of the liberties that the future opensource license will grant).

    Official commercial release of Sailfish OS (like on Jolla's one smartphone or the few commercial contractors they've got. Like Intex, Turingphone, etc. Sony is a big brandname that will eventually join) supports a licensed copy of Myriad's AlienDalvik - so Jolla users don't get left in the cold app-wise.
    Community ports of Sailfish OS (Fairphone 2, etc.) support SFDroid, an opensource application achieving the same goal.

    Also, Jolla are the initial developpers of libhybris (That was also used by Ubuntu Phone) enabling use of drivers designed for Android userspace on a GNU/Linux userspace. Meaning that Sailfish OS can be ported even if the chipset manufecturer only provides android device drivers to the handset manufacturer.

    That currently seems to be the best alternative to Android :
    - full blown GNU/Linux platform
    - most parts are licensed as open-source, the rest is similarily editable anyway
    - can run apps for android (so user needing them can use sailfish OS, and app devloppers don't need to target yet another platform before sailfish is popular enough).

    --
    "Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
    1. Re:Open-source smartphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Android is about as open source as OSX.

      You *can* download Darwin/Mach, GNU bilutils and a built tool chain etc. What *isn't* open source is drivers, a ton of "bloat", or the whole apple ecosystem/itunes thing.

      Would anyone in their right mind call OSX "Open source"?

    2. Re:Open-source smartphone by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Drivers are supplied by the hardware manufacturers, go talk to them or write your own.

  4. It's almost as if by enjar · · Score: 1

    Two gigantic corporations can do more than one thing at a time.