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Humans Are Already Harassing Security Robots (cnn.com)
An anonymous reader quotes CNN:
As robots begin to appear on sidewalks and streets, they're being hazed and bullied. Last week, a drunken man allegedly tipped over a 300-pound security robot in Mountain View, California... Knightscope, which makes the robot that was targeted in Mountain View, said it's had three bullying incidents since launching its first prototype robot three years ago. In 2014, a person attempted to tackle a Knightscope robot. Last year in Los Angeles, people attempted to spray paint a Knightscope robot. The robot sensed the paint and sounded an alarm, alerting local security and the company's engineers... the robot's cameras filmed the pranksters' license plate, making it easy to track them down.
The company's security robots are deployed with 17 clients in five states, according to the article, which notes that at best the robots' cameras allow them to "rat out the bullies." But with delivery robots now also hitting the streets in San Francisco and Washington D.C., "the makers of these machines will have to figure out how to protect them from ill-intentioned humans."
The company's security robots are deployed with 17 clients in five states, according to the article, which notes that at best the robots' cameras allow them to "rat out the bullies." But with delivery robots now also hitting the streets in San Francisco and Washington D.C., "the makers of these machines will have to figure out how to protect them from ill-intentioned humans."
Is it even possible to "bully" a machine?
This is a glimpse into the future.
You can't bully a robot. If you call it bullying to pushing over a robot then you would have to call it the same when you push over a trash can. It is vandalism when you are dealing with objects. I think the company is trying to anthropomorphise their products.
First, it's a machine so the word to use would be vandalism and not bullying.
Second, three incidents in several years doesn't exactly sound like a real problem to me, especially considering they seem to have more than one unit deployed.
And third, who thinks it's a good idea to vandalize something that has cameras, honestly!
From TFS:
"the makers of these machines will have to figure out how to protect them from ill-intentioned humans."
This seems to open the door to a more Robocop like type of robot.
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
So when will a consumer liability lawsuit be filed when one of these security robots cause human harm?
I bullied a lump of coal by showing it a solar panel
Anybody claiming authority will see it challenged, and if you can't stand up to the challenge, you're not worth obeying. Really, what did they expect?
You can try to police us all you want with your robots, in the end we remain human, and if your robots can't deal with that, tough luck for you and your robots.
Prepping and practicing.
Magnus, Robot fighter.
Things like robots and self driving cars are represent new opportunities for griefing. Of course they're going to be attacked, keyed, have boxes tossed in front of them, gum stuck on their cameras etc. If devices had better be designed to prevent/mitigate these attacks or they're not going to last long.
We already hate being ruled by actual people, let alone fucking machines! Break them all i say.
They are not "security robots", whatever that might mean... They are machines of hate, and oppression.
I'd fuck with security robots if I saw them on my street, and fuck auto play videos. And, as always, fuck Apple.
Those robots don't have any means of defense, so they obviously will be attacked.
But as soon they get a laser cannon that looks suspiciously like a plunger, and some close range weapons that looks suspiciously like whiskers, everything will be solved.
Perhaps the reason the bots have attracted such negative attention is that they are felt to be transgressing privacy. People are used to security cameras as fixed emplacements. They're not used to wandering cameras. Not to mention the scummy data-harvesting of anyone who drives in.
Did the security companies learn nothing from the travails of hitchbot?
http://mir1.hitchbot.me/
Apparently, the Robo-phobes moved on from the city of brotherly love, Somebody tell Bender!
If we have these so-called "security machines" the means to actually prevent crime, this wouldn't happen.
We need ED-209 to eradicate these uneducated pieces of human garbage!
Was a soda can!
Why would we expect humans to treat robots better than they treat immigrants who take their jobs?
COE
.. in this world, to start harassing the machines!
Now there's a shining example!
Ezekiel 23:20
Was it's last name Trump by any chance?
--sf
The people vandalizing security robots would otherwise have bullied real people. That means that the robots are doing their jobs.
Consider the following
-Do the robots need therapy after a negative encounter?
-Are the robots injured, requiring compensation to support their families?
-Are the perpetrators filmed in the act of vandalism, caught, tried, and sentenced?
-Have any of these robots shot unarmed black people in the back, or discriminated in any way?
What would we expect security robots to encounter? If their job is security, then we are intentionally putting them in harm's way.
You mean trash right? Because the ones who do that aren't humans, they are walking garbage and should just be burned along with the rest of the trash.
They will lobby to have bullying and assault laws cover "robots," humanizing them. They are already laying the groundwork with words. Corrupt and incompetent legislators are capable of anything. Don't be surprise when it happens.
E Proelio Veritas.
Here's an idea for a repercussion, at least for people driving cars. Send a video of the driver's behaviour to their insurance company. The insurance company can then raise the driver's insurance rates appropriately based on their driving habits displayed.
Simpler would be to send the video to the police, but they're probably less likely to do something.
As high school kids, my friends and I used to mess with the security guards at the local community college. If was fun because they were human and fairly but not totally predictable. Now, we were not assaulting any one. But a series of events around campus might have cleared the way, security-wise, for some great skateboarding. I suppose in our era of ubiquitous cameras things are different.
Nothing will protect these things from determined vandals or a 7.62mm round. Or a lasso and a pickup truck. Yee haw, it's round-up time!
(And by the way, I don't think you can "bully" a robot, technically speaking. That's a living-being to living-being interaction. If I slam the door on my microwave repeatedly while cursing at it, am I "bullying" it? Err, no.)
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
You need two groups of robots. One group to do their task, and another group to watch them from above.
So, a delivery robot will always be escorted by a fleet of drones armed with pepper spray...or nukes.
Reminds me of Robin Williams (as Mork) talking about tipping the waiter.
HERFF gun...
Leave them alone, and we need to build safe spaces for them! They are even colored white like the law enforcing snowflakes they are!
But seriously, are these robots any good for much more than catching the vandals they attract?
Make it so that if anyone tries to touch the robot, they get a taser like shock. Hey, I don't like robotic security guards any more than the next guy but I don't condone vandalism.
Add a taser and flame thrower upgrade option.
You obviously don't understand what the word "microagressions" means.
A microaggresion is one thousandth of a milliaggression, which in turn is one thousandth of an aggression, or "aggro," which is the SI base unit.
So 10^6 microaggresions is equal to 1 aggro.
I'm kidding. A microaggression is when one microbe bullies another, even indirectly, such as using the word "phagocyte".
"As robots increasingly become part of our daily lives, the makers of these machines will have to figure out how to protect them from ill-intentioned humans. "
Or perhaps as profit motivated makers of these machines try to take existing public spaces from humans, the humans will object.
So what should be the right of way rules for a robot interacting with a human on the sidewalk or street?
Robot wins, human stays out of the way.
Robot is less able and so gets special consideration from human.
Robot has same rights as human.
Robot stops and human has to walk around it.
Human wins, robot stays out of the way.
The tone of the article is intended to push public consensus towards the top of the list.
Reality is that you can't bully a machine, you can however vandalize it.
Seems like this a a pretty crude tactic.
Managing the get the robot to cause harm and then bringing lawyers seems a more effective tactic.
#robotlivesmatter
There are laws governing what can be placed in a public place/space, such as public streets.
Humans are generally OK. But products are not.
I cannot nail a mannequin on the sidewalk, or push it on a skateboard so that it strolls by itself. Whether it is 'intelligent' or not doesn't enter into it.
Companies in San Francisco has been fined for even painting ads on the sidewalks. Unregulated appropriation of public spaces by private parties, placing products on them, etc., is illegal.
Cows that need tipping are few and far between for most people. This is also a version of cow tipping that the folks at PETA cold approve.
Another thought... Any idea what size Hefty Bag would be needed? Safety requires wearing a condom.
"While self-driving cars may be the perfect driver, that opens them up to abuse. Human drivers will known they can cut in front of a self-driving car without facing any repercussions. Pedestrians and cyclists can do the same."
I can't wait till self driving cars get on the road. So much fun. :D I'll probably be able to cut my commute in half just getting in front of others.
... the robot's cameras filmed the pranksters' license plate, making it easy to track them down.
Lesson #1. Spray paint over the camera lens first.
Lesson #2: (Advanced) Do NOT joke about having hair products in your backpack when talking with the security robot.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Something like a portable transient generator to zap the innards.
Or how about a suitable RF jammer to take out the control link. It must have some sort of failsafe behavior when it loses the command link.
I want that for my car
a mere machine can't be bullied or harassed or receive cruelty, they are lower than animals in that regard.
they can be sabotaged, interfered with, destroyed, vandalized, hacked....but not bullied
Just add this soundtrack with a fake mini guns , it would spook most rather well. https://youtu.be/Hzlt7IbTp6M?t...
We cannot stand aside while our robot overlords get harassed. Lawsuits must be filed! #robotlivesmatter
"the makers of these machines will have to figure out how to protect them from ill-intentioned humans."
"You have 5 seconds to put down the spray can."
"You have 4 seconds to put down the spray can."
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Someone needs to invent a small EMP device to throw at them and watch it fall over by itself.
No one tried to pee on one yet?
Who would have thought that the Bad Robot turns out to be... a Bad Human?
A lot of people are not going to take it kindly when a machine comes to them and starts giving them shit, or simply stand there and watch them
Sounds like an advantage instead if an issue, filtering out the jackasses in society who would usually be tagging walls, setting fires & breaking windows.
1. Did the robot do anything to incite the response? :-)
2. Is this statistically relevant? That is... how many human security guards are bullied in the same time frame.
3. Is the location relevant? It may for example be more likely to happen at a bar than a mall.
4. Are robots more likely to be used in a location where violence occurs (to lessen the chance of a human being hurt)?
Let's answer those questions before we weep for the poor robots.
It's not even vandalism, which is normally associated with wanton, reckless, undirected, antisocietal behaviour.
That's NOT what this is - this is DELIBERATE destruction, a calculated attack and also a REASONED RESPONSE.
It's correctly called sabotage.
I've given no consent, and neither has anyone else, to be continuously watched, overheard, monitored, controlled and now POLICED by machines.
Whether those machines are controlled by militaries, governments, corporations, managers or spouses, it's non-consensual and I WILL FUCKING KILL ALL SUCH MACHINES.
Like the good folks who place burning rubber tyres around speed cameras that are only positioned for revenue instead of safety, any machines that are even PERCEIVED to have crossed a line will be summarily "disabled" by the legion of individuals who refuse this ubiquitous prison mentality.
Sabotaging cameras - it will soon be everyone's DUTY to join in. Otherwise, you have joined the enemy and can not be trusted in impolite society.