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SSD Drives Vulnerable To Rowhammer-Like Attacks That Corrupt User Data (bleepingcomputer.com)

An anonymous reader writes: NAND flash memory chips, the building blocks of solid-state drives (SSDs), include what could be called "programming vulnerabilities" that can be exploited to alter stored data or shorten the SSD's lifespan. According to research published earlier this year, the programming logic powering of MLC NAND flash memory chips (the tech used for the latest generation of SSDs), is vulnerable to at least two types of attacks.

The first is called "program interference," and takes place when an attacker manages to write data with a certain pattern to a target's SSD. Writing this data repeatedly and at high speeds causes errors in the SSD, which then corrupts data stored on nearby cells. This attack is similar to the infamous Rowhammer attack on RAM chips.

The second attack is called "read disturb" and in this scenario, an attacker's exploit code causes the SSD to perform a large number of read operations in a very short time, which causes a phenomenon of "read disturb errors," that alters the SSD ability to read data from nearby cells, even long after the attack stops.

93 comments

  1. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Let me guess. You hate the "experts" and the "elites"? Let's "tear it all down"? A hop and a skip from Trumpnik thinking, and look how that's going.

  2. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow you are thoughtless.

  3. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because, you jackass, the discovery of flaws is what allows continuous improvements to be made. I mean, let's NOT find ways to make cars safer by readily exploring all opportunities to keep children safe in the event of a car crash. Let's NOT fund avionics to improve QOL where air flight is concerned. Let's NOT safeguard data to keep sensitive information that our enemies can use to dismantle our way of life our of their hands.

    Why don't you tell us what you do that's "useful" on a day-to-day basis. And make it a good one, because it's gotta be something that benefits society as a whole.

    What with you being so elite and all.

  4. Re: Also watch out for bedbugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    No, SJWs are even worse.

  5. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Such as waiting for state-sponsored cybercriminals or intelligence agencies to discovery these things first, or someone to unintentionally trip them with a programming error?

  6. Re:Waste of time by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

    Exactly. Something useful.

  7. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... what do you think is used to store data in car electronics?

  8. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody needs to get rid of this 1100100001000 troll. Too boring for the internet.

  9. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    unlike his moms car, this..in theory...could be fixed, make the logic perfect and it in theory will work forever.

    *remembers when software was proven

  10. While this is certainly of research importance... by ckatko · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...I don't think it has much real-world worry. If you're running an intentionally malicious program on your computer, you've got far worse problems. A SSD is one device. A single credit card number is worth thousands of dollars to you and possibly dozens of hours of your valuable time to fix.

    I do wonder, is there such an equivalent vulnerability in platter drives? Writing rapidly to the inside and outside of the platter so the heads scream back and forth over and over? (Kind of like the bad old days of exceeding your RAM and thrashing everything to a page file as your heads go CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK.)

    Come to think of it, I wonder if you could VARY the read/write speed of a hard drive by changing your write patterns. So if you can get the heads to swing at a certain frequency, you could start a resonant oscillation of the heads which, if tuned right, would cause a complete mechanical failure.

  11. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't matter if platter drives are vulnerable, since they're already being phased out

  12. Re: While this is certainly of research importance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not a real world worry at all, with one exception. If someone wants to slowly fuck your data without it being obvious, then this might be a way to do it.
    But it also is worthless against most Enterprise grade storage arrays, and is most likely easily prevented with drive firmware updates.

  13. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It might be a worry for providers who rent out servers.

  14. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    your a doosh

  15. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ending your life would be a useful endeavor furthering human understanding.

  16. Re:Waste of time by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Because of this comment, you should not be allowed to benefit from SSD drives that aren't vulnerable to these attacks. Maybe a bit would be flipped in your bank account balance, or at least a critical part of your computer's partition table.

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  17. Re: Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mya Doosh? Whoosa Doosh?

  18. Re: Also watch out for bedbugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    SJWs are all bigots tho, why repeat what he said?

  19. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I don't think it has much real-world worry. If you're running an intentionally malicious program on your computer, you've got far worse problems. A SSD is one device.

    All of the worlds computers /w SSDs are single-user systems.

    Come to think of it

    Maybe you shouldn't.

  20. Re:Waste of time by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Like post worthless shit on Slashdot?

  21. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    I do wonder, is there such an equivalent vulnerability in platter drives? Writing rapidly to the inside and outside of the platter so the heads scream back and forth over and over?

    The heads already scream back and forth on normal operation. If you create write patterns that increase head moves, I do not expect to see something else that trashed I/O performances.

  22. Better summary by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    TFA is not very detailed, it seems the journalist had a hard time explaining what the scientists did. Anyone has a better link?

    1. Re:Better summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The paper claims they did sketches of vulnerabilities. Meaning they assume the real-world functioning works in such a way that a vulnerability is theoretically possible, but they don't actually show any real-world exploit.

      Summary: Paper theorizes that SSDs using MLC could be bricked by malicious software

  23. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Mozai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We used to do that ON PURPOSE. It's wasn't mechanical failure, it was an undocumented feature. http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargo...

  24. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't these "commenters" find something useful to say?

  25. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of the worlds computers /w SSDs are single-user systems.

    Uh, no they aren't. Pretty much everything in Digital Ocean, AWS, Azure is using *some* SSD storage. Then there are enterprise servers - pretty much everything I've used in the last two years has some kind of SSD storage, if not all SSD (even in many big data applications).

  26. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Kjella · · Score: 2

    ...I don't think it has much real-world worry. If you're running an intentionally malicious program on your computer, you've got far worse problems. A SSD is one device. A single credit card number is worth thousands of dollars to you and possibly dozens of hours of your valuable time to fix.

    Assuming you got access to anything valuable with the process you're running as. The point of rowhammer was that you could flip bits in other processes, Imagine for example if you have found an exploit in the web server but all it has access to is public files but you could flip the permission bits on /etc/passwd to be world readable that would be a pretty big exploit. If you can use a "harmless" service running as a non-privileged user to create a denial-of-service attack, that surely has some value too.

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  27. Re: Not my problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too poor to purchase a ssd eh? Hehe. Go sweep the floor loser.

  28. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

    I don't think that has a realistic chance of working -- filesystems tend to write file contents in difficult to predict geographical locations.

    I think what would be more realistic is using this as a hypervisor escape.

    Even then, I'm curious how this attack is supposed to work now that most SSDs use wear leveling.

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  30. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assuming the bank stores the balance as 32-bit, I have a pretty good chance of that working out really well for me.

  31. Yawn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ZFS on LUKS containers. First LUKS would refuse to read a block that failed integrity check. And if in some weird fantasy universe that doesn't happen, ZFS will definitely spot the corruption and oh, hey, autocorrect it.

    So, uh... WhatHammer now?

  32. Re:Waste of time by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    That's a real garbage answer.

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  33. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your level of maturity was self discovered also.

  34. That's interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yesterday, Intel released SSD firmware update 2.2.1. In the Release Notes section for my 600p, they included /"Data miscompare caused by intermittent data corruption during heavy write workload with small file transfer size."/

    That sounded pretty odd until just now.

  35. Re:Waste of time by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

    In this case there isn't really any way to improve them. Read and write disturbs are a well-known phenomenon that can't be solved at the physical level. That's why bits stored in flash are distributed in space and time, with both the hardware and the flash controllers acting to minimise the problems due to disturbs. My guess is that these guys reverse-engineered the mechanisms used for one particular flash technology and figured out the access patterns needed to induce disturbs.

    The workaround would be to use a different random seed for access-pattern randomisation on each device, so you can't leverage information obtained for one device to attack all other devices in that class.

  36. Re: Also watch out for bedbugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No kidding, you can spray against bedbugs.

  37. Hammers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    In other news SSDs are susceptible to actual hammers as well, no work around has been found.

    1. Re:Hammers by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      Pfft. Put a hard steel frame with sufficient thickness around them, done.

  38. End-to-end checksums and redundancy still required by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since time immemorial, experience has shown that errors creep into data from every level of the storage stack, wether by media defect, transmission error, firmware bug, cosmic ray, unstable power supply, or whatever. The list goes on, and this flaw which allows intentional damage to NAND flash is just one more case that proves the value of end-to-end checksums.

    That only effective precaution is to checksum the data as soon as possible, and use memory and storage with enough redundancy to correct errors as necessary. ZFS does this automatically, and used in conjunction with ECC memory, minimizes the opportunity for data corruption.

    Perfect storage hardware does not exist; it is the job of the storage system to be tolerant of the inevitable faults, and still return the data that was originally written. The only exception is Apple hardware, which is protected by the RDF, and asserted to be perfect. This allows Apple to avoid the minor overhead that data checksums would impose on their new APFS filesystem, and the gamble with your data still improves their bottom line.

  39. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No. The elites with the balls to actually spend the time in the books build the systems that vatniks and Trumpniks scratch their chins and fail to understand, let alone break. That's how they become the "elites."

    You want to tear them out and replace them with your fellow morons? Enjoy the aftermath.

  40. Not news to SSD or NAND makers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NAND read disturbs are well understood by the NAND vendors and SSD controller manufacturers. SSD drives from reputable vendors are engineered to deal with it, just like they are engineered to handle NAND wear-out, and bad-blocks. Micron published a document a decade ago discussing it (see TN-29-17 )

    1. Re:Not news to SSD or NAND makers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then we got TLC NAND where the SNR margin is so low, a few reads already degrade it into uncertain area and it requires a scrub (ECC recovery + rewrite).

      So, SSDs have to be given time to scrub (enterprise ones book this time by force, but they are almost never TLC), use ridiculously strong ECC. Now, you just to need a firmware that actually detects the need to do a scrub run *MUCH EARLIER* than predicted -- and there you are very likely to have data loss episodes on several models/vendors.

  41. SSD drives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh I've heard about those. They're fast right?

    Are you going to go over to the ATM Machine and enter your PIN Number so you can buy an SSD Drive?

    1. Re:SSD drives? by bn-7bc · · Score: 1

      Ok tim for my daily rant Can we stop calling them ssd drives, kt is redundant as SSD means "Solid State Drive", so saying SSD Drive would be like saying "solid state drive drive", would anyone do that? Just asking

    2. Re:SSD drives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back in ze Third Reich, we avoided ze redundancy by calling zem SS Drives.

    3. Re:SSD drives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok tim for my daily rant
      Can we stop calling them ssd drives, kt is redundant as SSD means "Solid State Drive", so saying SSD Drive would be like saying "solid state drive drive", would anyone do that? Just asking

      So RAS syndrome drives, then. RAS = Redundant Acronym Syndrome.

    4. Re:SSD drives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did that one come from the Redundant Department of Redundancy?

    5. Re:SSD drives? by tsqr · · Score: 1

      No, no. It's the Department of Redundancy Department. Sheesh!

  42. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some banks still store it as Text, How much is T Dollars?

  43. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

    ...I don't think it has much real-world worry.

    There is no real world practical worry for this.

    This hack relies on the ability to rewrite specific pages in NAND flash. In fact, the attack is well known in NAND flash - read and write disturbs are documented issues with NAND flash since the beginning. Every NAND flash datasheet mentions how you can and cannot program it in order to minimize the probability of disturbs. It's why NAND flash has the "spare area" - because even following the recommendations (always program from page 0 through consecutive pages, never skip around and always program full pages at a time) you will encounter a disturb event eventually.

    Now, this requires raw NAND access. But practically all flash memory your PC uses is managed. The SSD has a controller on it sitting between the SATA or PCIe bus and the raw NAND flash. Even memory cards are managed - CompactFlash, SD/MMC, Memory Stick are managed. Only the xD and SmartMedia actually are raw NAND (the controller is in the interface) formatted in special ways.

    And managed memory means you can't access the raw media because the management controller is doing its very best to mitigate flash memory drawbacks (like limited program-erase cycles) and problems (like read/write disturbs) by using such fancy technology as wear-levelling. This way even if you write to the same sector always, it's actually walking around the physical media so no part of the actual flash chip is getting more worn out than the others.

    And modern SSDs have so much state in them that knowing where your write actually goes in the physical storage array is impossible to know - you need to know the exact state of the array including the states of all the pages (good data, dirty data, ready to be erased, etc). because when it comes time to garbage collect and all that, all the previous state is important as it influences the new state. (And all this contributes to write amplification - where writing N bytes actually causes N+M bytes to be written because of flash management).

    I'm not impressed with the findings, since I read all about them in a Toshiba (inventor of NAND flash) application note over a decade ago. It's exactly what Toshiba said would happen and why you need to follow the rules (which every managed controller does).

    To be more impressed, they need to demonstrate the results using every day SSDs instead of special test and development boards that let them abuse the raw NAND.

  44. Does encryption mitigate it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Encryption at rest seems to be getting standard these days - I'd guess it would mitigate some of the risks?

    1. Re:Does encryption mitigate it? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Not at all. The only thing that can be achieved here is obvious data corruption (i.e. reliably detected by the SSD). Encryption has no impact on that.

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  45. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

    ...I don't think it has much real-world worry. If you're running an intentionally malicious program on your computer, you've got far worse problems. A SSD is one device. A single credit card number is worth thousands of dollars to you and possibly dozens of hours of your valuable time to fix.

    What if you're running a virtual instance on a cloud platform, and somebody else is running another virtual instance on the same platform, sharing the same physical memory and SSD ?

  46. Re:Waste of time by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Why don't you tell us what you do that's "useful" on a day-to-day basis. And make it a good one, because it's gotta be something that benefits society as a whole.

    His endless trolling provides lulz to Slashdot users the world over.

  47. 4 months old news by enriquevagu · · Score: 1

    The link summarizes a paper presented 4 months ago in the HPCA'17 conference in Austin, why is this "news" now?

    1. Re:4 months old news by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Oh! I know this one! Because the entire world wasn't at the HPCA'17 conference!

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  48. encryption = security, huh huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Encryption at rest seems to be getting standard these days - I'd guess it would mitigate some of the risks?

    Yes, yes it would. Absolutely. But only if you use an expensive proprietary implementation, running on a industry-grade undocumented security processor, and store the private key on a third party server. As long as data is encrypted, its perfectly secure even against data-corruption attacks, yup.

    1. Re: encryption = security, huh huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, data corruption is one issue, data compromise is another one. Just because encryption doesn't solve one issue doesn't mean it won't solve a different issue. Use integrity verification to prevent data corruption.

      Then again, this is a very hypothetical attack, considering that the file system provides a good layer of abstraction and caching. At best you could corrupt data at random places.

      Someone looked at row hammer and thought "this should work with sad storage too", without taking into account all the mitigating factors, filesystem abstraction, etc...

  49. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    Then this attack would be impossible obviously. You need direct access to the hardware in order to control the bit pattern. In the scenario you are talking about you are using a filesystem to write data, and one of several kernels as well. Your reads and writes are cached by the OS and you have no control over the order of your reads and writes and the reads and writes of the other virtual machines. Your memory writes, while they appear to be at linear ranges you specify, are virtual. That's why it is called virtualization. You are never sharing the same memory. If you were running things they way you think, you could crash your instance and every other instance on the system with a simple C program run as root that dereferences a "properly" initialized pointer, or writes to a location of "interest" such as the stack of the disk drive interrupt routine. Virtual machines would be crashing left and right because the other guy was malicious, or more likely, incompetent.

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  50. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OTOH he's not wrong. Spinning platter drives aren't exactly like some old C64 still doing work at an old car shop.
    They wear out and has to be replaced. A five year old drive might still chug on happily. A ten year old drive is an accident waiting to happen.
    Sure, they SSD you replace them with will also wear out, but that doesn't change the fact that replacements will happen.

  51. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are not wrong, but your comment brought up an unrelated but mildly interesting question.
    Is it really correct to call it a "geographical location" in this case? Unless you mean a distributed filesystem where the file content may be stored in different buildings, or even cities, I feel that "spacial location" would be more correct.

    However, would it be correct to say that something exists and different geographic locations in one of the following cases?
    a) The difference is only in altitude. Does vertical movement change the geographic location?
    b) The difference on a geographic scale is insignificant; only an inch apart.
    c) The difference is constantly switching. On a spinning platter two point of opposite sides of the platter will swith location with each other every half revolution. Sure, they are at different locations, but are they really at different geographic locations? By the time you have read this sentence the two points have occupied the same position several times over.

  52. Encryption? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if full disk encryption would mitigate this problem on SSDs. If properly implemented, flipping a row of bits would be useless without the encryption key. It doesn't solve the data corruption issue but at least you won't be able to change the data in a deterministic way.

    Rowhammer in RAM is another beast though...

  53. Not even remotely news, and not a vulnerability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These effects are well-known, and the entire point of a "flash translation layer" is handling them. SSDs verify and recopy data periodically. And since flash storage uses extensive ECC (precisely because it's known to have a non-negligible error rate), such corruption will be detected. It's virtually impossible to have this generate an undetected error of the sort that makes rowhammer such a problem.

    In a badly engineered drive, it may be possible to design an access pattern which leads to data loss, but a denial of service is a lot less significant than the things rowhammer can do.

    1. Re:Not even remotely news, and not a vulnerability by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Rowhammer was silent data changes that could be used for attacks. This is very obvious data corruption, and only if the design of the SSD is pretty bad. The whole comparison is pretty stupid.

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  54. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In this case there isn't really any way to improve them.

    The workaround would be ...

    your lack of induced logic is disturbing

  55. These are not "programming vulnerabilities" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These are product defects. Stop using this terminology that some marketing department came up with to avoid having to do an expensive call back on their RAM products.

  56. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by swb · · Score: 2

    Storage access is mediated on so many levels that even vendors have a hard time identifying whether even relatively simple performance problems are the result of an application, the application subsystem (databases), the operating system, the network system, the storage system, the storage fabric or the computer system.

    I don't see how it would ever be possible to exploit this, especially when the flash vendors are aware of it and the closest software levels of the hardware are deliberately written in ways to inhibit it.

  57. How can that happen? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    "Writing this data repeatedly and at high speeds causes errors in the SSD"

    Why is this allowed to happen? Why isn't the write speed limited if abusing it can cause errors? How can this be an allowed operation? Since the drive is under complete control of its own firmware, why is this operation allowed to proceed or even take place?

    "an attacker's exploit code causes the SSD to perform a large number of read operations in a very short time, which causes a phenomenon of "read disturb errors," that alters the SSD ability to read data from nearby cells, even long after the attack stops"

    As above, why is this even allowed to occur?

    I'm no expert on SSD functionality, so I'm baffled why the drive would be permitted to do this in the first place. Can someone explain this to me?

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    1. Re:How can that happen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't "allowed to happen". A SSD uses a NAND controller that takes the hosts disk access requests and maps the request into the NAND specific access commands. This translation involves applying/removing error correcting coding (ECC), LBA translation, bad-block management, wear-leveling, and of course some caching.

      NAND read disturb has been documented by NAND vendors for over a decade, and the NAND controller vendors are aware of it. The controller is responsible for mitigating the impact, just as the controller must handle wear leveling to prevent one block from being burned out prematurely due to excessive writes. Even if a read disturb were to occur causing a bit to flip, you still have the ECC to protect the data.

  58. Re: While this is certainly of research importance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes and no. That sort of storage is virtualized at least a couple if times. The only way to take advantage of this flaw is if you have a dedicated raw mapped device, in which case it's your own storage you're trashing.

  59. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ha ha, enjoy your being downvoted to oblivion, which is well deserved for a dumbfuck like you.

    why don't YOU find something useful to do? I know the opportunities to do so in mommy's basement are limited, but still...

  60. Re: While this is certainly of research importance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then you have even less chance of triggering this kind of behavior.

    The only place this is even a concern is if the CIA or NSA sneaks into your nuke research facility and reprograms all the firmware on your SSDs so that it can be slowly used to wear your drives out faster than normal.

  61. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Wycliffe · · Score: 1

    So if you can get the heads to swing at a certain frequency, you could start a resonant oscillation of the heads which, if tuned right, would cause a complete mechanical failure.

    Although this would be interesting, just like the SSD exploit, I'm not sure how useful it would really be in the real world. Drives are pretty cheap. Loss of data is the big deal and if you have physical access to the system then randomly writing to the drive or formatting the drive seems like the simplest and easiest way to destroy the data.

  62. Re: Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What an uninformed and useless opinion.

  63. Re:Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry you got triggered snowflake, but this is SSD drives, not your mommy's car.

    It appears that 110010001000 does not know what SSD's are used in, thus why this is an important flaw.
    But that only reminds me that he posts on a variety of topics that are beyond his understanding.
    Welcome to Slashdot, 110010001000, you belong with us.

  64. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I don't think it has much real-world worry. If you're running an intentionally malicious program on your computer, you've got far worse problems. A SSD is one device.

    All of the worlds computers /w SSDs are single-user systems.

    Come to think of it

    Maybe you shouldn't.

    Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not.
    The hospital where I worked uses boatloads of SSD's for storage of data, software, and virtual machines in EMC and EMC-like boxes.
    Flipping bits in a Word is annoying, but flipping bits in shared-source virtual machines would wreak havoc on an environment.
    It's not the directed attack against some code or data that's the threat (I don't believe it could be done to data in SSD storage arrays), but rather a random flipping of bits to cause corruption as part of an extortion attack.

  65. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

    So please inform me where I now can purchase all these new shiny SSDs to replace all the 8TB disks that we have in our array cabinets. And that without having to pay more for a single of those new drives than 100 or so of the old ones...

  66. Re: Waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About 8 years ago, you could easily find SPI flashes that exhibited this issue. (Basically NAND flashes packaged to act like NOR, and not using any ECC bits)

    It was a pain in the ass to get the vendor finally own up to it.

  67. Re: Waste of time by tibit · · Score: 1

    How the fuck does anyone offer NAND storage without error correction? WTF?!

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  68. Re:While this is certainly of research importance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no real world practical worry for this.

    I had the same reaction to "row hammer" when it first came out. It only took a month for someone to find a way to exploit it in a normal system.