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Vivaldi 1.10 Released (vivaldi.com)

Reader x_t0ken_407 writes: Vivaldi, the successor to Opera 12.16 (Presto) in spirit, admittedly has a long way to go but continues to steadily mature with the release of version 1.10:

Releasing Vivaldi 1.10, we give you the power for making the Start Page more personal than ever before. You're the one who gets to decide how your Start Page looks, feels and performs. We've also added the much-requested ability to dock the Developer Tools.

Other new features and improvements include:
-Sorting of Downloads in the Side Panel by name, size, date added and date finished, as well as manually.
-Toggle image visibility from the View menu or via configurable keyboard shortcut.
-Quick Commands improvements for users that like to control everything in their browser from their keyboard. The Quick Commands menu lets users navigate to tabs, find search terms, filter lists of available commands and much more.
-Address Bar dropdown list can now exclude bookmarks and typed history.
-Controlling new tabs via third-party extensions with additional functionality, such as productivity tools or reminders.


61 comments

  1. After all that time! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Funny

    >Vivaldi Released

    He must have been in prison for a long time

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    1. Re: After all that time! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Why do people post unfunny crap like this, desperately trying to be witty and amusing?

      To test the sense of humour of anonymous cowards.

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    2. Re: After all that time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should know that anonymous cowards sense of humour is never classical.

    3. Re: After all that time! by mspohr · · Score: 1

      I thought it was witty and amusing... but then, I'm easily entertained.
      Unfortunately, even this low level of humor is rarely available here.

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    4. Re: After all that time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you're gay

    5. Re:After all that time! by gweihir · · Score: 1

      While I support your attempts to promote Dadaism, you need to work on execution and targets.

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  2. Nice to have a browser with a different approach by evolutionary · · Score: 1

    One thing I like about Vivaldi is it breaths fresh air not only into the browser community but it's approach to user interface and add-on architecture in general. Vivaldi is so far the fastest browser I've used and....not google data mining nonsense like I find with Chrome. Let's hope it's user base increases. We all win when we have more alternatives.

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  3. Impressive browser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've had Vivaldi for a while now, and I'm a big fan. It seems to be one of the few browsers actually trying something new, has some great features, a nice interface and isn't too heavy (it's not a lite browser, but it's not an awful resource hog). I've never had any stability problems either - I'd definitely recommend it if you want something a bit more flexible than the standard browsers..

    1. Re:Impressive browser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree,
      I really like Vivaldi, and most everyone I convince to try it likes it also. it is the best day to day browser I use. It intentionally gets out of the way of the user rather than pushing features and services. It's just way less annoying that the other browsers I use (IE, FF, Chrome).

      As far as reliability, I personally find it very reliable for normal browsing. If you have problems something may be wrong with your computer, or only tried the betas. I put it on my family's computers, they sh** up everything on their computer, and never have Vivaldi issues that don't go back to Chromium.

  4. Just like the real Opera! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That no one ever attends unless you are over the age of 90. Hey, Opera had a good run, but they really need to just stop trying and dump all of their dev effort into making Webkit better. Because even Firefox and Edge are likely to give up and switch to Webkit eventually.

  5. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's a nice browser. But what's their revenue model?

  6. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is just Chrome - Onion Edition.

  7. I'll be back... by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    Vivaldi was a famous composer 1703-1741.
    Then he made a career change and was a famous decomposer.
    But I think he's long since retired from even that by now.

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    1. Re:I'll be back... by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      And interestingly quickly went out of fashion (even during the end of his life) and was only "rediscovered" in the early 20 century.

    2. Re:I'll be back... by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Vivaldi was a famous composer 1703-1741.

      Then he made a career change and was a famous decomposer.

      But I think he's long since retired from even that by now.

      He was a fan of the dynamics of climate science, he was always for seasons.
       

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    3. Re:I'll be back... by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      Vivaldi is certainly a good decomposer, but Michael Jackson is my favorite underground artist.

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  8. Crap linux support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    64-bit only rpm or deb. Why not just tarball it like oh i dunno opera used to do.

    1. Re:Crap linux support by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Wait until they jump on the container bandwagon

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  9. "making the Start Page more personal..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Making the start page more personal? Is that what I need my web browser to improve upon? My start page is about:blank and it loads very, very fast. I really don't need any improvements there.

    1. Re:"making the Start Page more personal..." by mfearby · · Score: 1

      Amen, my brother. "Start pages" can just die already.

    2. Re:"making the Start Page more personal..." by sconeu · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up, please.

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    3. Re:"making the Start Page more personal..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My start page are groups of speed dial pages. It's much easier and faster than typing stuff every time.

    4. Re:"making the Start Page more personal..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. The whole start page speed dial takes center stage in their update notes, and it would probably make a great mod for someone. It will never be a browser focus to me though, and the biggest user pain about Vivaldi now is trying to avoid it. And not out of some curmudgeonly fear of change; I'm all for new things, I just don't find it nearly as clean and useful as a plain homepage set to Google (ok, that part might be curmudgeonly fear of change) and a bookmarks menu.

      We have these expansive mod frameworks now, I don't understand how we haven't settled on a browser that is the bare minimum container of an engine and a mod library. Don't make home screens, tabbed containers, script blockers. Or do, but just make them mods. If they're great we'll use them.

    5. Re:"making the Start Page more personal..." by MMC+Monster · · Score: 2

      Same here.

      Basically a simple page of frequently viewed sites, grouped by subject matter. A few RSS feeds as well.

      Why bother going to /. when the /. RSS feed says that the're nothing that would interest me.

      I used to use iGoogle for it. But since that no longer exists, http://www.protopage.com/ makes a fine replacement.

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    6. Re:"making the Start Page more personal..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't confuse start page with new tab page. That are two different things.

    7. Re:"making the Start Page more personal..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would anyone want to have their start page set to a search engine web site? That just seems really archaic to me, like the kind of shit we used to have back when Netscape and Webcrawler were the best.

      If I want to search, I type my search directly to the address bar and it finds results using my default search engine (Start Page/Ixquick). If I want to search via Google, I can type in "g whatever" and it will search for "whatever" on Google. If I want to search Wikipedia, I type "w whatever" and so on for numerous other sites.

    8. Re:"making the Start Page more personal..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Making the start page more personal? Is that what I need my web browser to improve upon? My start page is about:blank and it loads very, very fast. I really don't need any improvements there.

      In Apple's Safari, my start page (homepage) is /dev/random. Works great!

  10. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's just a nonfree Chromium fork with GUI tweaks...

  11. New features: by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

    Now with FIVE seasons.

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  12. Vivaldi is not what Opera used to be by Hentes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First, Vivaldi is just a skin on top of Chrome's engine, not a browser of its own right. They did manage to replicate some of Opera's unique features, just not the ones that count. I don't use Opera because I like to write notes on webpages or use sidepanels, I use Opera because it allowes me to set script/plugin/cookie/ad blocking on a per-site basis without the need of a dozen bloated extensions written in shitty JS.
    Vivaldi, on the other hand, is an entire browser written in shitty JS, and it shows. It's buggy and unresponsive, and while some of it may be due to being "early access" software (they did fix the close button for example), I suspect most of the problems are architectural.
    Now there are some nice features like keybindings, the costumiseable UI and they even managed to get tab stacking sort of working now.
    But at the end of the day Vivaldi is not what Opera used to be.
    (written on Opera 12.17)

    1. Re:Vivaldi is not what Opera used to be by fnj · · Score: 3, Insightful

      costumiseable

      BWAHAHAHAHA!

    2. Re:Vivaldi is not what Opera used to be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Chrome is just a skin on top of Safari's engine. And Safari is just a skin on top of Konqueror's engine.

      As for Opera, I used it until the final version (12.17) but stopped when basically 90% of the web doesn't render properly in it. It's also the slowest browser by far.

    3. Re: Vivaldi is not what Opera used to be by KGIII · · Score: 2

      Opera still exists. It has been usable since 23. It kinda sucked, when they first made the transition.

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    4. Re:Vivaldi is not what Opera used to be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False, Vivaldi allow you to set script/plugin on a per-site basis since a couple versions already. Just click on the icon at the left of the address bar (either a lock icon for https sites or a vivaldi icon otherwise). Don't seems to work for cookies though but not sure how old opera handled it either. Old opera never handled ad-blocking, if you meant just popup blocking, vivaldi allow it to be set on a per-site basis also.

    5. Re: Vivaldi is not what Opera used to be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In name only. The real opera stopped at 12.something. The new Opera is just a skin over chrome and has nothing to do with the old Opera (appart from the name). The real successor to Opera 12 is Vivaldi, not the new Opera.

    6. Re:Vivaldi is not what Opera used to be by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I don't know what version you tried last, but I recently moved over from Opera 12.x after using both in parallel for a while. The only major thing I find is that the bookmark functionality is not really good, but "Neater Bookmarks" fixed that for me.

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    7. Re:Vivaldi is not what Opera used to be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Call it VINO. Vivaldi Is Not Opera

  13. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

    Vivaldi still isn't as useful, nor customizable as Opera 6. Though we might have to say Opera 9/10 if we include the horrid tab-stack implementation.

  14. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by ckatko · · Score: 1

    Does anyone you know actually think that's clever?

  15. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vivaldi is missing basic, important functionality like a transfer speed indicator in the download sidebar. That is simply inexcusable.

  16. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, it's golden.

  17. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by evolutionary · · Score: 1

    fair enough, but Opera has been purchased by a Chinese company. :-(

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  18. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unusable frivolity that. Too bad fresh air Vivaldi browser stings like a a swarm of Africanized honeybees. Common functions are just "thrown against the wall" ... nothing sticks where you expect it.

  19. Features over fixes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, I see the change log still doesn't contain the words "crash less".

    I tried out Vivaldi as a replacement for Firefox, but it crashed more than Firefox (apparently that is possible). After a month, I went back to Firefox.

  20. Give Us A Bookmarks Menu! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With Mozilla killing Firefox with from version 56 by ending support for extensions, I'm looking for an alternative. Unfortunately, Vivaldi is still lacking key features, most notably a bookmarks menu.

    I'd also much rather Vivaldi used my GTK theme instead of applying its own, rather ugly, theme.

    1. Re:Give Us A Bookmarks Menu! by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Try the "Neater Bookmarks" Chrome addon. Not quite back to Opera 12.x but close enough for me.

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  21. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by Rockoon · · Score: 1

    The more I think about it the more I like the idea that it is some foreign government spying on me with my browser instead of the NSA.

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  22. Hope they add tab saving when browser is closed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hope that they finally add feature that keeps your tabs saved when you close browser and reopens tabs when you reopen browser (aka. shutdown/reboot computer).

    That's ONLY feature that I miss on Vivaldi that Chrome had.

    1. Re:Hope they add tab saving when browser is closed by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I don't know when they added that, but this currently works.

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    2. Re:Hope they add tab saving when browser is closed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it does not. Sometimes it does but most of times when I shutdown computer it loses open tabs.

  23. Re:Don't install this by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Thank you for extremely bad advice? Not likely.

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  24. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by gweihir · · Score: 1

    I finally switched over to Vivaldi from Opera 12.x after finding "Neater Bookmarks". While not perfect at this time, Vivaldi is very usable, stable and fast. All other browsers I tried are worse IMO, although I keep FF around for the few pages that do not work with Vivaldi. Lately I found that these often do not work with FF too and usually not even with IE.

    Sure, Vivaldi is not mainstream, and those that are desperately afraid to be seen using anything not in the mainstream will deride it without any understanding what they are talking about. But that is about the only drawback I can see.

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  25. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by gweihir · · Score: 2

    "the browser’s business model will be the standard affiliate-deal affair" from https://gigaom.com/2015/01/27/...

    Their team is small and hence they do not need much revenue.

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  26. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by gweihir · · Score: 1

    For pages, I actually find that quite nice. It reduces my stress-levels. For file-downloads it does of course have a speed and progress indicator.

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  27. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by x_t0ken_407 · · Score: 1

    Hear, hear.

    I've used it as my primary browser for about a year now, on the Snapshot branch so that I can help weed out bugs. Still has a LOT left to be desired -- it's not fully mature yet and those looking for a mature browser will be disappointed. But for my purposes, it far exceeds every other browser out right now.

    My favorite thing from the Opera days were the tabs on the side -- and no FF's tab tree wasn't the same thing. That along with their general approach to customizability makes it an easy choice for me these days. STILL waiting on Sync support though, that's the last big one that's left me wanting. Mobile app to go along with sync would be perfection.

  28. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For file-downloads it does of course have a speed and progress indicator.

    Nope. The only thing it has is a progress bar and an estimated time to finish. No speed indicator whatsoever.

    I have used Vivaldi and periodically try out newer versions. Maybe you should do the same before you start making false statements.

  29. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by gweihir · · Score: 1

    I actually did look before claiming anything. Seems you have a pretty "special" definition of "speed indicator".

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  30. Re:Nice to have a browser with a different approac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, because kb/sec is such an unusual definition of speed indicator, despite the fact that all other browsers and FTP/SFTP clients display it. In fact *any* reference to data transfer speed in any program always means bytes/kilobytes/megabytes/etc per second.

    Either you are on crack or you're too embarrassed by your lack of technical knowledge to admit that you're wrong, junior.