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Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction, not Engaged Argument (cnet.com)

Abstract of a study: The Chinese government has long been suspected of hiring as many as 2,000,000 people to surreptitiously insert huge numbers of pseudonymous and other deceptive writings into the stream of real social media posts, as if they were the genuine opinions of ordinary people. Many academics, and most journalists and activists, claim that these so-called "50c party" posts vociferously argue for the government's side in political and policy debates. As we show, this is also true of the vast majority of posts openly accused on social media of being 50c. Yet, almost no systematic empirical evidence exists for this claim, or, more importantly, for the Chinese regime's strategic objective in pursuing this activity. In the first large scale empirical analysis of this operation, we show how to identify the secretive authors of these posts, the posts written by them, and their content. We estimate that the government fabricates and posts about 448 million social media comments a year. In contrast to prior claims, we show that the Chinese regime's strategy is to avoid arguing with skeptics of the party and the government, and to not even discuss controversial issues. From a CNET article, titled, Chinese media told to 'shut down' talk that makes country look bad: Being an internet business in China appears to be getting tougher. Chinese broadcasters, including social media platform Weibo, streamer Acfun and media company Ifeng were told to shut down all audio and visual content that cast the country or its government in bad light, China's State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television posted on its website on Thursday, saying they violate local regulations. "[The service providers] broadcast large amounts of programmes that don't comply with national rules and propagate negative discussions about public affairs. [The agency] has notified all relevant authorities and ... will take measures to shut down these programmes and rectify the situation," reads the statement.

69 comments

  1. Posting? by computational+super · · Score: 1

    In some places they just post, but they run reddit entirely.

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  2. they're not the only ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    US spy operation that manipulates social media : Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda

    The discovery that the US military is developing false online personalities – known to users of social media as "sock puppets" – could also encourage other governments, private companies and non-government organisations to do the same.

    1. Re: they're not the only ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only explanation for many of the posts here is government agents. Let a serious article begin a conversation about how the government is screwing everyone and very quickly a post about Trump or Obama will derail the conversation and the nuts take over.

    2. Re:they're not the only ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UK gubmint

      50pence crew reporting in

  3. Ignoring the real enemy. by DreadCthulhu · · Score: 5, Funny

    This article is silly. The real enemy on the internet is Russian hackers. There is no need to discuss the Glorious People's Republic of China's hacking and social media campaigns.

    1. Re:Ignoring the real enemy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The *real* enemy on the internet is every single government drowning dissent by pretending their own opinions are those of the peoples they govern.

      Through the power of social media, 90% of citizens online will 'strongly agree' with having their rights eliminated and their limbs fed to rabid animals for sport.

    2. Re:Ignoring the real enemy. by Brett+Buck · · Score: 2

      Indeed, they have effectively hacked the minds of Democrat party leadership and driven them effectively insane.

    3. Re:Ignoring the real enemy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fuck of, Trump person.

    4. Re: Ignoring the real enemy. by coteriescavenger · · Score: 0

      On the contrary, social media is freedom from government manipulation. They can't control the message like they can on television. It's why they couldn't stop Trump. Do you know how expensive it is to hire 2 million monkeys?

  4. In a democracy ... by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... distraction is ineffect....

    Look! A Tweet from Kim Kardashian!

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    1. Re:In a democracy ... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Implying people cannot passively follow celebrity gossip AND be useful members of society? That's nonsense.

      Plus the real pernicious democracy-destroying distractions aren't from the Kardashians, they're from other reality TV stars occasionally residing in the white house. Enabled by a firmly anti-democratic electoral system that was left in place from the founding days.

    2. Re:In a democracy ... by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1
      Amusing Ourselves to Death Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business (1985)

      Aldous Huxley won.

    3. Re:In a democracy ... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      One work of fiction is more realistic than another work of fiction...

      ... okay? And that proves what?

  5. Not unlike our government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...where a very large part of what they spend our money on is maintaining and expanding their own power. Government for the people? ROFL.

    1. Re:Not unlike our government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Considering the insane number of Trump apologists on Slashdot, I tend to agree with you. The only way so many brainless inbread fucktards can appear to exist is if they are paid to flood social media networks by the King of Disinformation himself.

      Either that, or there is no such conspiracy, and there actually ARE that many fucktards in the world. In this case, God have mercy on our souls.

  6. Obvious fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This garbage was clearly written by some homosexual Japanese "people", and approved by someone seeking to undermine the Chinese government. msmash is probably from Taiwan.

    All of you are racist, and because you are all racists, you cannot debate me and win. Your racism invalidates all of your arguments and validates all of mine.

    May China be forever strong.

  7. Social Media Sucks by sycodon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Social Media will be the downfall of most societies I expect.

    Whether due to government manipulation, private interest manipulation, or merely coarsening the social discourse, Social Media really hasn't been a net benefit to society at all.

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    1. Re:Social Media Sucks by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Social Media will be the downfall of most societies I expect.

      Whether due to government manipulation, private interest manipulation, or merely coarsening the social discourse, Social Media really hasn't been a net benefit to society at all.

      It's still early days. We've seen only a handful of successful social media platforms. Things change.

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    2. Re: Social Media Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      define successful.

    3. Re:Social Media Sucks by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Social Media really hasn't been a net benefit to society at all.

      If you're going to make unqualified statements like that, I'm going to need some quantification. I'm open to that possibility, but "Kids these days with their twitter and facebook is no dang good, and the Chinese are brainwashing them!!!" isn't very compelling.

      If fake posters encourages skepticism about what you're being told, that could be useful. No news source is without bias, you're crazy if you think the alternative to Chinese posters trying to shape opinion is completely different from everyone watching the nightly news in the US during the cold war or any other war. Actually could be better: you can talk back to propaganda online in a way you can't with the tee vee propaganda.

    4. Re:Social Media Sucks by Hylandr · · Score: 1

      Mod up +1 pls.

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    5. Re: Social Media Sucks by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Slashdot effect. At one time /. was successful. I learned many technical things here back in the day, particularly about the nuances and tradeoffs in operating system. There used to be very knowledgeable people who used this site.

      Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss People

      15/16 slashdot lead stories right now are about people or companies. That would put /. in the small minds category

    6. Re:Social Media Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If fake posters encourages skepticism about what you're being told...

      But they don't. They demand and receive obedience and compliance, and their idiot followers get violent.

      ... that could be useful.

      That part is true. Social media is proving to be useful, just not for the people you think.

      Personally, I think it's useful because it exposes man's primitive nature, and shows how little we have evolved from the animal world. It clues us in on the bad choices we make as a species, which is really only good for the sake of curiosity, because the lessons still go unlearned.

    7. Re:Social Media Sucks by hey! · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Depends on how you define "downfall".

      The trick with tyranny, as with so many other things, is to get someone else to do most of the work of maintaining it. The Chinese regime has got this down to a science.

      For example if there were a clear and hard limit as to how far you can go with free speech, people would be going right up to that limit and they'd constantly be struggling with people who wander over the line. So in China they keep the exact line vague so most normal people avoid going anywhere near where the line might be drawn.

      This particular story shows how distraction is a powerful tool of tyranny. The more people are focused on viral nonsense the less they're focused on things that might challenge the regime.

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    8. Re:Social Media Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If fake posters encourages skepticism about what you're being told, that could be useful."

      yea, but theirs to many idiots that believe whatever they see, as long as it agrees with what they want it to. did you miss all the fake news stuff surrounding the US election?....

    9. Re:Social Media Sucks by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      Did you miss the backlash against the fake news? I'm saying news has always been biased, and should never have been taken as unquestionable fact, yet people did. That there were a lot of idiots who took it seriously has remained unchanged. In the cold war, the news preached that communism was evil and needed to be opposed worldwide and the idiots didn't question it. That's not exactly "fake news" but I don't see any clear differences in effects.

    10. Re:Social Media Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Social Media really hasn't been a net benefit to society at all.

      If you're going to make unqualified statements like that, I'm going to need some quantification.

      Facebook is more akin to a giant malignant tumor then a benefit to society. Why on earth or mars would someone quantify this when the company stalks everyone, all around the busted internet. Facebook is a creepy, kooky, cluster-fuck of people clumping together like rats do when their environment is overpopulated.

      It is the age of unreason.

  8. Not Just China by GlennC · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure this is a fairly widespread phenomenon.

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    1. Re:Not Just China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Came to say this^

      It's like when the US gets all high and mighty and accuses China of nefarious hacking practices, as if we're not doing the same to EVERY country on earth 24/7

    2. Re:Not Just China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the US it's even easier. We decided to stop educating our population so we say a ton of money and get nearly 300 million posters who are actively not participating in engaged argument on social media. #EveryOpinionMatters

    3. Re:Not Just China by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I'm certain that if they actually hired 2 millions people to do this that it wouldn't be suspected it would be well known... as if 2 million people could keep a secret.

    4. Re:Not Just China by GlennC · · Score: 1

      Who says that 2 million people are needed to do it?

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  9. Universal Basic Income? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they found another answer to the question of what do you do when you have more people than jobs.

  10. Kind of on par with.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the MSM in USA then? Remind me how is this any different than the whole WMD fiasco of the Iraq war when all MSM touted the parties line (2 by name, but both war hawk) or the current Russia hacking scandal in which none of the MSM challenge or even question in the face of zero hard evidences. Personally I am deeply skeptical of any US based publication; only sources I'd trust are something like Wikileak or unauthorized leaks or there is no hidden narrative.

    1. Re:Kind of on par with.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think that people who leak information don't have ulterior motives or that non-US publications aren't capable of just as much bias and co-opting if not more? How awfully naive of you.

    2. Re:Kind of on par with.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think that people who leak information don't have ulterior motives or that non-US publications aren't capable of just as much bias and co-opting if not more? How awfully naive of you.

      Nice strawman (intentional or not), the point is not that leak info don't have ulterior motive but that by nature leaks are kept secret for a reason and that is to withhold information from you. As for non-US publication doesn't have as much bias or not what, OP never said that and of course not. The point reminds valid that certain sources are more valid and less bias.

  11. I wonder if they're on 8chan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every gamergate thread on /v/ is derailed into a hentai thread. Every time /pol/ starts discussing certain topics, the thread is flooded with Greedy Jew memes. It looks like strategic distraction to me.

  12. When will the U.S. have a real government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "... the US military is developing false online personalities..."

    Someday I hope the U.S. will have a real government, not just a bunch of people who act on personal interests.

    1. Re:When will the U.S. have a real government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would require that the people interested in obtaining power over others not be the same people who would use that power in self-interest.

      It's not going to happen. I'd go as far as to say it's impossible. Positions of power will always attract those who intend to exploit that power. The people who wouldn't act in self-interest simply aren't the kind of people interested in obtaining power over others.

  13. Nyet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Comrade , I don't know these Russian Hakars you speak of.

    Comrade, remeber that the capitalist pig controlled Western media is blaming those poor innocent Russians. The very honest democracy loving Vladmir Putin would never undermine another government.

  14. This is not the study you're linking for by dcollins · · Score: 4, Informative

    The study linked in the OP has nothing to do with fabricated-media posts; rather, it's about what social-media gets censored by the Chinese government (namely, calls to action and not mere criticism). In fact, the abstract of the linked study is entirely different from what's allegedly quoted in the OP. The linked abstract is actually this:

    We offer the first large scale, multiple source analysis of the outcome of what may be the most extensive effort to selectively censor human expression ever implemented. To do this, we have devised a system to locate, download, and analyze the content of millions of social media posts originating from nearly 1,400 different social media services all over China before the Chinese government is able to find, evaluate, and censor (i.e., remove from the Internet) the large subset they deem objectionable. Using modern computer-assisted text analytic methods that we adapt to and validate in the Chinese language, we compare the substantive content of posts censored to those not censored over time in each of 85 topic areas. Contrary to previous understandings, posts with negative, even vitriolic, criticism of the state, its leaders, and its policies are not more likely to be censored. Instead, we show that the censorship program is aimed at curtailing collective action by silencing comments that represent, reinforce, or spur social mobilization, regardless of content. Censorship is oriented toward attempting to forestall collective activities that are occurring now or may occur in the future --- and, as such, seem to clearly expose government intent.

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    1. Re:This is not the study you're linking for by doom · · Score: 1

      No kidding: actually the title of this post has zero to do with the study that it links to (which was published in 2013, by the way). The article has nothing to do with fabricating fake social media posts as a distraction: it's entirely about backing out the Chinese government's intentions by looking at what they care about censoring. It concludes that criticism isn't a problem, but rather any posting on events that might spur citizens to take action (even posts that aren't critical of the government).

      There's also a follow-up publication from Science in 2014: Reverse-engineering censorship in China: Randomized experimentation and participant observation.

      It's almost as though slashdot was conducting an experiment on it's users: how random can the title be without people commenting noticing?

  15. Web of Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First lesson that should be taught is not to trust anything on the web. I knew this before Al Gore even invented it and the great Robert Asprin/JRR Tokien debate, which I won. Believe half of what you see and nothing that you read/hear.

  16. meh. Not much different than North America by computerchimp · · Score: 0

    Harvard.

    Not much different than right wing - left wing debate or office politics.
    While the paper is a good let us (North America) judge China too harshly we should look at we allow in our own backyard.

  17. Math doesn't check out by OpenSourced · · Score: 3, Insightful

    2 million people generating 448 million posts a year? That's about two posts a working day per person. Either they are horribly inefficient, or one of these numbers is wrong. My guess, both are wrong.

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    1. Re:Math doesn't check out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, it makes perfect sense. The objective isn't to "flood" social media with obvious pre-written stuff. The whole point is to produce a lot of reasonable, "everything is okay" posts that seem to basically represent people living their daily lives. Focusing on controversy makes people aware of controversy. Acting "pro-Chinese government" makes you look like a shill. And generating too much content makes you look like astroturf.

      If you want to merely make sure there's a constant 10% or 20% of content that's just "living our lives" and people can focus on that, then unless things go really horrible for the common man, they can just pretend the government's actions aren't happening.

    2. Re:Math doesn't check out by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      The whole point is to produce a lot of reasonable, "everything is okay" posts that seem to basically represent people living their daily lives.

      But 448M posts/year isn't "a lot", it is a negligible number. China has about 600M internet users, and they use social media a lot more than Americans do. So 448M posts is less than one per person per year. That is practically unnoticable.

    3. Re:Math doesn't check out by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      "Comcast is good and their service people smell of fresh spring flowers. Your connection problems were caused by poorly-made foreign microwave ovens. That's why you should buy domestic brands."

    4. Re:Math doesn't check out by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 1

      Since they are state employees, figures are probably correct. Outsourcing this activity could work better, of course.

    5. Re:Math doesn't check out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NERD

      PS I am not Chinese.

    6. Re:Math doesn't check out by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Starbucks?

      Hijack the customer loyalty program. 2 or 3 cups of coffee during a working day - more for us nerds! Pay the bill while scanning your loyalty card or NFC enabled phone. Receive a notification with a link to any one of 500 web sites. Fill in a sock-puppet comment and a notification will be sent back to HQ to erase your bill.

      Anyone with a conscience wouldn't sell their soul but for thousands of dollars a year worth of free coffee, plenty would.

      Oh shit, I shouldn't give them ideas! :-)

  18. Distraction issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While we have to deal with global warming, an aging population that is going to put a huge demand on social security and Medicare, out of control medical costs, decling standards of living, globalization, automation, education, and many issues that are going affect all of us; folks are more concerned about stupid distraction issues: who can use what bathroom, funding planned parenthood, gay marriage, gun control, LGBTQFAG issues....

    And seeing the elections over the last year, the LGBTQFAG community's support is inconsequential. The Dems need to start paying attention to the little guy again who has more important things to worry about than some whiny LGBTQFAG who wants to legislate bathroom use.

    1. Re:Distraction issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Dems need to start paying attention to the little guy again

      Again?

  19. This post is genuine and authentic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All praise for glorious leaders of China. This accusation is lacking of truth. Do not believe. Work hard for glory of people.

  20. Social media by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    If you say I'm a bot/paid CIA/FSB/China shill, you are obviously a bot/paid shill. Ahh internet, where discussion is the equivalent of playing water polo in a septic tank.

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  21. US should be double-checked for this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think that the political parties of the US, the dirty Dems and evil Reps, and folks with agendas like Facebook and google, are much more likely to do this.

    Perhaps the 50c mafia should be sought in the USA, and see what comes of that.
    Does Facebook have 50c mafia detectors and VW-like test-fakers?

    We once asked who watches the watchers who watch the watchers. Given that watching is a form of detection, we might ask another question instead. Who detects the detectors who detect detectors? It is like a radar detector detector detector. Perhaps the infinitely recursive iterative acronyms such as gnu which stand's for "gnu's not unix", and whose mode in the limit reduces to "not unix" should be applied to a war between those who want to make slaves of the world via aggressive engineering of the human social graph as well as to those who they accuse.

  22. 'Social Media' is compromised EVERYWHERE by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    I agree with you, and add this: Anyone who thinks that it's only the Chinese government that does things like this is either incredibly gullible, or just isn't paying attention. Then there's corporations and their paid shills. Just a couple of the myriad reasons I shun all social media and recommend that everyone else do the same.

  23. Duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you're saying that people employed by a government to publicly support decisions the ruling group has already made aren't doing it to help spur insightful thinking?!

    You, sir, have just blown my mind.

  24. The figures are inconsistent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It shouldn't take more than 20,000 people to post 450 million items per year. That's a far cry from the
    huge army of 2 million government drones. I'm assuming 100 posts per person per day, 6 day work weeks and about 4 weeks of vacation annually. That should be reasonably close for Chinese workers with low incomes.

    Moreover, this is a mostly Chinese-domestic operation, unlike the Russian one which has shills posting on
    Western news outlets' comments sections, to make it seem like Russian state biases and interests are widely
    shared in the West.

  25. Negative News, positive trust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A clear, open exposition of problems in a society increases the trust of the citizens to the government. Increased trust increases stability. The Chinese government likes stability. Foot, gun, tanks in the square.

  26. Waiting for this headline by bwd777 · · Score: 0

    Democrat Media Fabricates News Narratives for Strategic Distraction, not Engaged Argument.

  27. CorrectTheRecord by coteriescavenger · · Score: 0

    So basically CTR? Our own media has manipulated people to the point of thinking Trump is literally Hitler and rioting in the streets. What do we have to say about China?

  28. Baffle them with your bullshit by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
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  29. The U.S. gov hires a few thousands by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to do this kind of thing. Shoot down stuff that makes countries on the agenda look good and friendly, and blow stuff through the skies if it may make the U.S. look good and benign. But, that China would hire millions to do this? They have got _NOTHING_ on the U.S. when it comes to propaganda and social-media sabotage, and that they would hire millions, or even tens of thousands, is completely nuts to suggest.

  30. CNN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So China is just like CNN?