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Something Big Is Warping Our Outer Solar System (futurity.org)
schwit1 quotes Futurity:
The plane of our solar system is warped in the outer reaches of the Kuiper Belt, suggesting the presence of an unknown Mars-to-Earth-mass planetary object far beyond Pluto -- but much closer than Planet Nine. An unknown, unseen "planetary mass object" may lurk in the outer reaches of our solar system, according to new research on the orbits of minor planets.
The object would be different from -- and much closer than -- the so-called Planet Nine, a planet whose existence has yet to be confirmed... "The most likely explanation for our results is that there is some unseen mass," says Kat Volk, a postdoctoral fellow at the University of Arizona's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory and lead author of the study in the Astronomical Journal. "According to our calculations, something as massive as Mars would be needed to cause the warp that we measured."
The object would be different from -- and much closer than -- the so-called Planet Nine, a planet whose existence has yet to be confirmed... "The most likely explanation for our results is that there is some unseen mass," says Kat Volk, a postdoctoral fellow at the University of Arizona's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory and lead author of the study in the Astronomical Journal. "According to our calculations, something as massive as Mars would be needed to cause the warp that we measured."
"Captain, that is definitely a Klingon warp signature."
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But it's probably V'Ger.
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I figured out what's warping the solar system:
http://static.deathandtaxesmag...
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There's a kook who'll be commenting soon enough quoting Sitchin and his horseshit. Yeah, I know, there'll be PLENTY of those idiots.
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We only just knocked the last "Planet Nine" theory and now we've got ANOTHER ONE?!
See:
https://medium.com/starts-with...
The Empire obviously decided to park it here and then forgot all about it...
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If its a kuiper belt object, then it must be huge to have that much mass, because of its low density. Or it could be a rocky object, like Vesta or Mercury, but then its hard to explain how it got to be so far from the sun.
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Probably the ring.
>the so-called Planet Nine, a planet whose existence has yet to be confirmed. It was confirmed, but denied anyway.
Wasnt Pluto reinstated as a planet not long ago (again)? It's a bit confusing and difficult to keep track of all those transneptunes... Dammit, I can't sleep now. Yet another one and no proper numbering.
Nothing exists outside the Solar System. The rest of the universe is painted on the Kuiper Belt.
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Definitive answer: Planet X
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I have read articles like this for many years (I recall that the outer planets were detected before they were known this way) and have always wondered something that maybe someone here can explain.
I understand at a high level the theory behind detecting unseen objects by their fanatic effect on known bodies but just how can you make measurements that precise? How many digits of precision do you need to do the calculation? Intuitively the angles involved must be far smaller than typical mechanical tools could measure so how do they do it?
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I hope someone answers this as I've wondered exactly the same. Like just how far "out of expected location" would Neptune be after an orbit. It is the scales that confuse.
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That we cannot see it... maybe it's a small black hole? Or some other lesser stellar remnant that's burnt out, but not massive enough to be a full scale black hole. The suggestion it's quite massive, yet we haven't found it... I dunno! Maybe some time in the distant past, this system had two stars. Singular star systems are supposedly less common than binaries.
TLDR; Just speculative rambling.
The scale is exactly what lets you detect the issue. The orbital time in days for Neptune is 60,200 days. Sixty Thousand days. Its orbital velocity is 5.43 km/sec. even a very TINY change to that speed over that many days will put it far out of the expected location and that is what we detect.
tl;dr; errors accumulate rapidly over time.
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... when Kuiper belt objects started to kick in.
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Yep, which makes one wonder what precision was used to calculate this.
I wish astronomers would stop pulling these shitty theories out of Uranus all of the time.
Planet 9 exists, we call it Pluto.
It's closer than Pluto?!
First thing: You don't use angles, you use 3 vectors. Angles are horrible at maintaining precision compared to 3 vectors. On the Earth, double precision latitude, longitude has a limit of 0.1m but double precision 3 vectors has a limit of just over 0.00000000056m.
I'm betting on eddies in the Kuiper belt. Both observed effects don't have to be from a single mass and can be from distributed masses that have an effective center of mass. You always wind up with eddies in a hydrodynamic simulations and it is a bad assumption that the origins of the solar system was non-chaotic.
An unknown, unseen "planetary mass object" may lurk in the outer reaches of our solar system,
Does this mean that the Death Star has a cloaking device now?!
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Does the warp rotate with the sun? Is it aligned with the milky way, perpendicular, etc? It might not be a planet, we already know physics is broken just because relativity doesn't mesh with quantum mechanics (to say nothing of the dark matter/dark energy fudge factors thrown into the equations,) this might be a hint of where it's wrong.
Mass relay
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