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Reality Bytes: A Highflying Tech Entrepreneur Crashes Back To Earth (wsj.com)

An anonymous reader shares a WSJ article: Entrepreneur Jia Yueting likes to say that Apple is outdated, China's big technology companies are innovation-killing monopolies and his company, LeEco, is the real industry disrupter. That swagger served Mr. Jia in building an empire that sprawled across seven industries, from online video content to smartphones to electric cars. By having the ambition to take on Apple, Tesla and Netflix all at once, Mr. Jia seemed to embody the boundless promise of the huge China market. And investors responded favorably. Deal makers like HNA Capital and Legend Holdings bought in, as did the city government of tech hub Shenzhen, as well as movie director Zhang Yimou and other celebrities. British sports car maker Aston Martin joined up to develop electric vehicles. The U.S. state of Nevada promised $200 million in incentives for Mr. Jia's electric car venture, Faraday Futures, to build a $1 billion plant there. And LeEco unveiled a $2 billion deal to buy U.S. TV-maker Vizio. Now, most of those deals are dead or struggling and Mr. Jia's dreams are fading away due to a cash crunch and worried creditors (could be paywalled). On Thursday he resigned as chairman of a listed unit of LeEco, Leshi Internet Information & Technology, though he will remain the chairman of the holding company. That move comes after a Shanghai court last week -- at the behest of China Merchants Bank -- froze $181 million worth of his assets and $2 billion in shares over a missed interest payment.

64 comments

  1. Bait headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    He did not "crash back to Earth". We're not talking about him dying in a parachute/plane/spaceship crash here. Stop with the stupid clickbait headlines and american english slang.

    1. Re:Bait headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's called "a metaphor".
      Get a grip.

      And no, that's not an instruction for you to grab yourself with one hand.

    2. Re:Bait headline by computational+super · · Score: 1

      clickbait

      So... wait... are you saying that you actually did think that he was launched into outer space and his spaceship crashed and that's what the article was about and that's why you clicked through it? Yes, I can see where American English slang would ruin your day most days.

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    3. Re:Bait headline by MightyMartian · · Score: 1, Informative

      One of the classic signs that you're dealing with someone with Aspergers is their inability to "get" things like metaphors or irony. It's not that they're stupid, it's simply that they are wired to see things in very black and white terms, and to tend to take things very literally.

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    4. Re:Bait headline by sexconker · · Score: 1

      The real kicker is that the AC complaining about there not being a literal crash to Earth was making a joke.
      If you can't see that (especially with the clickbait and "american english" references) you're the asspie.

    5. Re: Bait headline by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I wondered if he had crashed too. Got an aspergers diagnose as well. Don't see a problem with the request and agree and wish I had mod-points.

    6. Re: Bait headline by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Rich Tesla competing tech entrepreneur crashed. .. is it all that illogical to wonder whatever from the air or not?

    7. Re: Bait headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aspergers is a bonafide and scientifically proven personality disorder. Depending on the severity there are some very effective pharmaceutical and counseling based treatment options available. That being said there is a whole group of people using this "diagnosis" to excuse their weird, stupid, and often times boorish behavior. They expect allowances to be made for their behavior and actions due to a medical condition. Just look at the epidemic sweeping through the "hacker" community. Claiming diminished capacity because they have Aspergers is the first argument they bring up in court. And it must be true because all their buddies in the hacker collective back them up. Aspergers is just one more item on the list of excuses people employ to avoid personal responsibility.

         

    8. Re: Bait headline by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      Yes it is illogical because "came crashing down to earth" in various forms is a very common metaphor. I am very surprised you haven't encountered it before.

    9. Re: Bait headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was at the crosswalk with a guy who blurted at me " I have Aspergers", I had thought he said "I have Ass Burgers".

      Man can you imagine that, juicy ass burgers.

    10. Re: Bait headline by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You can have a rump steak, so why not?

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    11. Re: Bait headline by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Yes it is illogical because "came crashing down to earth" in various forms is a very common metaphor. I am very surprised you haven't encountered it before.

      I'm fine with both.

  2. Interesting! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for the post, I'll check it out

  3. Everyone who was around for the 80s is laughing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Japan is taking over!" == "The rise of China!"

    In both scenarios the domestic companies involved just smiled and took the money and waited for the leveraged positions to erode out from under their corporate overlords.

    1. Re:Everyone who was around for the 80s is laughing by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Fear fuels the Wall Industrial Complex.

  4. Aston Martin? by k6mfw · · Score: 1

    I thought Britain no longer has car makers, maybe AM is a niche (I almost think AM stayed in business per the famous spy movies). Can't read the article but there was a time when British had several car companies including the legendary Rolls Royce. I think of a documentary that discussed what happened to all these companies and some reasons why. Perhaps similar reasons why Jia Yueting bit the dust (no, he didn't chew on dirt. Only expression he has significantly less earnings than before).

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    1. Re:Aston Martin? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Never mind Aston Martin, what happened to Ferguson Motors?

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    2. Re:Aston Martin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't AM owned by Tata?

    3. Re:Aston Martin? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      I think that's Jaguar.

    4. Re:Aston Martin? by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

      They all got sold...

      Rolls Royce got sold to BMW. They also had Rover group, including Mini and Land Rover, but have since sold off Land Rover. Bentley split off from Rolls Royce to Audi. Sterling (anyone remember them?) got sold many years ago to Honda. Aston Martin, and Jaguar got sold to Ford, though they've since divested. Vauxhall was always a part of GM to me, though recently sold to Peugot-Citroen. Lotus a part of Chinese Geely (which also owns Volvo)

      Morgan, Caterham, AC (yay, AC ace) and McLaren all still make cars. All small manufacturers though.

    5. Re:Aston Martin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never mind Aston Martin, what happened to Ferguson Motors?

      Do you mean Standard-Triumph? or Massey-Harris-Ferguson?

    6. Re:Aston Martin? by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      What happened? Thatcher happened.

      While in France or Germany their governments intervened to get the companies over the hump, saving jobs in the process, and the companies recovered, in the UK they just let everyone fail and get purchased.

    7. Re:Aston Martin? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      WTF does he has to do with this?

      Outside of That '70s show, what's he done? A few shitty movies and an abortion of an attempt to supplant Charlie Sheen on his awful show?

    8. Re:Aston Martin? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      k6mfw kept referring to Aston Martin as AM.

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    9. Re:Aston Martin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aston Martin is currently owned by a conglomerate of Kuwaiti and Italian investors.

      It hasn't made any money (or truly new models) in 6 years. The company has been in a death spiral since Ford auctioned it off in 2007 because its new owners refuse to invest enough money in it to keep it alive.

    10. Re:Aston Martin? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Britain at one point didn't have any independent car manufacturers of its own, as Aston Martin was acquired by Ford in 1991. However, Ford divested it and it became an independent British company again in 2007.

    11. Re: Aston Martin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The DB11 is an all new platform for this year. All of their engines are getting new designs starting this year. V8 Vantages sell in significant numbers in sone areas, I see more of those than Mercedes SLs in my neighborhood in California. AM is the brand you buy if you want a supercar that you can legitimately daily drive.

  5. Obvious by nwaack · · Score: 2

    It was pretty obvious that the company bit off way more than it could chew. They did make pretty nice phones though.

  6. Defintely clickbait by evolutionary · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Curious if the submitter works with WSJ (Wall Street Journal). Not much point in sending a story that requires a subscription unless they want to increase subscribership. It would be appreciated if these types of stories were not submitted as it's irritating to those trying to read it.

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    1. Re:Defintely clickbait by mdm-adph · · Score: 2

      As if anyone reads the article any more, you're funny

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    2. Re:Defintely clickbait by Luthair · · Score: 2

      I wouldn't be surprised. There are a number of sites suspiciously submitted by anonymous users e.g.:

      • bleepingcomputer.com
      • motherboard.vice.com
      • bloomberg
      • arstechnica
    3. Re:Defintely clickbait by computational+super · · Score: 1

      I'm so slashdot, I don't even read the headlines any more!

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    4. Re:Defintely clickbait by sexconker · · Score: 1

      I'm so /., I only read posts from APK.

    5. Re: Defintely clickbait by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I'm so /. I'm only here to up vote GNAA posts.

    6. Re:Defintely clickbait by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      There is an article that is probably more direct, on People's Daily about this matter.

    7. Re:Defintely clickbait by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      I'm so /., I only read posts from APK.

      Your hosts file must be awesome.

  7. Re:Clickbait by msmash · · Score: 4, Funny

    Meh

  8. Re:Clickbait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK, you earned an extra week of reprieve.

  9. Can't trust the chinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everybody already knows you can't trust chinks. And the morons at Aston and Vizio are getting that lesson first hand.

  10. "Nice empire you have there.." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "..would be a shame if something.. happened to it.. Lucky for you we're in the 'insurance' business. Just make some easy payments to us, and you can rest easy at night, knowing it's all protected. Do we have a deal, Mister Yueting?"

    That's how that went down. 'Missed an interest payment', indeed!

    Oh, but the Chinese government couldn't possibly be corrupt! You must be mistaken, AC!

    1. Re:"Nice empire you have there.." by Desler · · Score: 1

      Or the more plausible option: his business was overhyped and simply crash and burned due to excessive burn rates without the revenue to back it up.

  11. The Unicorns are falling! The Unicorns are falling by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

    Lot of Unicorn beating today. ''Tis the season! Earnings are just around the corner!

  12. Chinaman breaks law, news at 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone in China breaks the rules, a, certain number get caught.

    1. Re:Chinaman breaks law, news at 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. A certain number don't grease the right palms. Same as in any other country.

  13. Another Chinese company turns out to be shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a surprise. China is garbage and filled with corrupt scum.

    1. Re: Another Chinese company turns out to be shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Chinese food is really good, so the world is a better place with them. Unlike Muslims, who both eat and fuck goats.

    2. Re: Another Chinese company turns out to be shit! by guruevi · · Score: 1

      I highly doubt you've eaten "inland Chinese food" or even classic Asian food - it's pretty meager on the farms, you may get chicken feet in your broth soup but that will be the extent of the meat. Dumplings aren't stuffed with meat but rather tough and doughy and dry out in a matter of hours. Half of Chinese "traditional" food would be too spicy for most of us and a lot of it you wouldn't recognize. A lot of soybean and cucumber though.

      Muslims don't really have a cuisine, they only have restrictions although goat is pretty good food but the Middle Eastern area is wide and diverse in food products from Turkish tea that's mostly sugar to Afghan goat with couscous (as a visitor at least, the hospitality customs almost require lavish meals, I'm pretty sure the regular food is rather meager).

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    3. Re: Another Chinese company turns out to be shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... Half of Chinese "traditional" food would be too spicy ...

      With the other half too salty: Urban and semi-urban China has flour, sugar, Western fruits (where the tomato is cooked as a fruit), chicken and pork; allowing a number of dishes that satisfy the Western palate, which has some exposure to Chinese food.

      ... you wouldn't recognize ...

      Asian vegetables are reaching Western markets so, not so strange. Cauliflower is non-existent, beef and potato are very rare, lettuce is rare except for the fast-food market (which sell egg-based dishes due to the absence of chips/fries). There's chicken and fish killed fresh at the local market (no fridges), which also sells every part of the pig or cow unprofitable to the abattoir. The small servings of meat in Chinese meals can cause jaundice in a Westerner, so take iron tablets.

      ... soybean and cucumber though.

      More prevalent than soybean, is rice: The Chinese have it for breakfast (pancakes), lunch (soup/stew) and dinner. When they visit a Western culture, they complain about the lack of rice in the meals.

    4. Re: Another Chinese company turns out to be shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chinese eat more pork than anyone else on the planet. If you cant find pork in China, I'm not you you have a clue...
      It's also the reason Muslims keep bombing them and jihading against them. No wait despite that they still hate America more, wonder why...

  14. Vizio is not a US TV maker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vizio is not a US TV maker. It is a US branding company that buys cheap Chinese TVs (albeit exclusive models) from China Shenzhen TV Co. Ltd and sells them in the US at incredible margins.

    Vizio does not make anything except money.

  15. Re:Clickbait by Desler · · Score: 1

    What exactly is clickbait? His company is imploding despite being overhyped and the next Jesus corporation.

  16. Markets change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... That swagger served Mr. Jia ...

    Markets change and risks that were survived a decade ago, become fatal now. Alas, many a business has assumed they could continue playing the same game better and longer. This is mentality is encouraged by the finance industry itself: Want to buy a $100,000 business, get a $70,000 loan; want to buy a $10m business, get a $10m loan. The reality is, if a business doesn't diversify or hedge it investments, it will go bust sooner or later .

  17. Re:Bait headline - you're a dumbass by haruchai · · Score: 1

    "american english slang"
    Obviously you've never heard of the BRITISH sci-fi flick The Man Who Fell To Earth which although written by American Walter Tevis, was adapted into a film by Nicolas Roeg & Paul Mayersberg and the title role was played by David Bowie.

    Guess which country all three grew up in. Hint: NOT the USofA

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  18. over missed interest payment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn, whatever happened to "working with your lender". Even mortgage lenders are more flexible than this. Probably not getting the full story, and can't read TFA

  19. Yes, it did. by YuppieScum · · Score: 1

    Morgan has been independent since it was founded in 1909.

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    1. Re:Yes, it did. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Morgan don't manufacture. They craft, and they do it lovingly in the traditional, time-honoured way.

      Are they up to a dozen per week yet?

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    2. Re:Yes, it did. by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Yes, I should have said mass-producer of automobiles. Aston Martin is over ten times the size of Morgan. According to Morgan, they current make "over 1300" a year, which would work out to over 25 a week.

  20. Re:Clickbait by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Isn't it up to the INS to decide?

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  21. Psychic reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw this coming a year ago or so when faraday futures was trolling for a factory location in california. sounded like a scam.