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Google Has Been Paying Academic Researchers Who Write Favorable Papers: Report (cnbc.com)

Google has paid researchers and academics who have worked on projects that support the company's positions in battles with regulators, a report in The Wall Street Journal (paywalled) said on Tuesday. From a report: Google's practice might not sound all that different from lobbying, but The Wall Street Journal revealed that some of the professors, including a Paul Heald from the University of Illinois, didn't disclose Google's payments. Heald is one of "more than a dozen" such professors who accepted money from Google, according to The Wall Street Journal. Google has reason to try to get as many folks on its side as it can. The company has faced almost constant scrutiny for its business practices, most recently a record antitrust fine of $2.7 billion in the European Union. Tens of thousands of dollars to professors here and there could have helped it avoid that fine, and others.

53 comments

  1. Madison Avenue by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

    Just another Madison Avenue outfit, updated for the Digital Age.

    That's Google.

    1. Re:Madison Avenue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In related news, water still wet

  2. Deplorable by budsetr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just like every other company that does it. I'm looking at you Big Oil.

    1. Re:Deplorable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LMAO. Have you ever heard of the CIA?

    2. Re:Deplorable by budsetr · · Score: 1

      Yes. But they never never NEVER get involved in things happening inside the borders of the United S...oh I get it. Shill, you dirty stinking shill!!!

    3. Re:Deplorable by chromaexcursion · · Score: 1

      Oil, Coal, Sugar, the list goes on. At least what Google is peddling won't kill you.

    4. Re:Deplorable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I for one am shocked, SHOCKED, that academics would accept money from a group on a long term basis to publish results that favor said group's financial position! *Cough* pharma, agriculture, oil, tobacco, global warming *cough*

    5. Re:Deplorable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? The CIA has been paying academics to 'prove' there is no human cause to climate change?

    6. Re:Deplorable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh god, you haven't hear about pfizer, Bayer, Merck, Boheringer and lots of the Pharma-Cartel
      https://www.sott.net/article/203185-Big-Pharma-Researcher-Admits-to-Faking-Dozens-of-Research-Studies-for-Pfizer-Merck

      It's really depressing, corruption is everywhere and science is always abused.

    7. Re:Deplorable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add in Democrats and their paying for Climate change research under threat. "You don't agree, you lose funding".

      I stopped believing in all research unless it is easily provable or makes sense.

    8. Re:Deplorable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like every other company that does it. I'm looking at you Big Oil.

      And don't think I don't see you too Monsanto

    9. Re: Deplorable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a serious flaw in a policy based on a layperson's judgement. If the public is so easily manipulated into believing fake climate change as you imply then such manipulation works the other way as well.

      PS - the climate models and data are public information. Weather data in particular is reliable enough to be immune to political and military manipulation even during war time. The US and Russia still shared weather data every day even during the worst if the cold war. British and French meteorologist still shared weather measurements with their German counterparts during both Wars.

    10. Re: Deplorable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meh. Any model is made so complex that even experts cease understanding the whole thing. That's the joy of software projects. Find me a developer that understands all of chromium let alone the V8 engine. Sure it's public, but who has time or funding to test every addition for validity? This is a rampant problem with drug trials also, so I'm not just picking on global warming. I take issue with the defence that something being public means that it is automatically well made, valid, or held to some higher standard.

  3. Re:Jews being Jews. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing new.

    A Jew joke on /.

    I did Nazi see that coming.

  4. Academe is corrupt by Tailhook · · Score: 0

    News at 11.

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    1. Re:Academe is corrupt by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      No it isn't. Some academics are, some are not, many are not in any position to be.

      Academe is not a monolithic entity.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    2. Re:Academe is corrupt by penandpaper · · Score: 2

      I agree with you but how is the laymen supposed to figure out good academics between bad academics when reports like this, the reproducible problem, and the pushing of politically driven ideology in science (feminist glaciology) are fairly common now?

      It isn't hard to see why so many view and distrust many of our long standing institutions. An individual an only do so much until their opinion is warped by example after example of malice, incompetence, and greed.

    3. Re:Academe is corrupt by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Probably through a similar process that most people have to use to figure out who are the good and bad people in their lives: reputation, reporting, and results. I'm not saying that people are generally good at this process (they're probably not which explains a lot of life's problems for many people) but the average person isn't going to suffer too many ill effects if they can't tell good academics from bad and there probably isn't enough time in their day to even start.

      Other academics might have an interest in some self-policing activities and trying to oust the frauds, so if your layman has enough sense or reason to decide correctly there, they don't need to be overly concerned. I think academics would do far better in terms of trust if they avoid politicization of their work (it's going to happen anyways, but just stay away from it and the people who do it.) or trying to shove solutions down people's throats. Even if academics are right nine times out of ten when doing this, people won't forget the one time the academics got it wrong.

      I think there's also a basic misconception that most people have towards science. They view it a bit like religious dogma where it is supposed to be the whole and complete truth. Outside of the more mathematical fields or aspects of various fields, science is best understood as the best guidelines we have for how the world works and they're probably incomplete and missing a few key pieces. Science is a process to find better answers, not all of the answers themselves.

    4. Re:Academe is corrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Academe is failing to regulate its members to act ethically then Academe is corrupt, it doesn't matter that most are not, the shit stains everyone and it is the overarching body that needs to get the sewage flushed out. Similiarly companies that are declared corrupt or governments are also usually just a small percentage of bad eggs, if you don't want to be labelled as corrupt then the responsibility rests with Academe to ensure it isn't.

    5. Re:Academe is corrupt by oldgraybeard · · Score: 1

      I agree, over all it is not all corrupt, there is some corruption for profit. And we must admit there is work to do. Where are the concepts of peer review when we have to deal with proprietary data, secret data, the actual modification(normalization?) of data where the original is deleted?

      But then I am older and removed from current reality. But I do see issues. For profit journals, auto written articles, fakes, subscription journals, paywalls. I feel a good shot of open would be great ;)

  5. Irresponsible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Karma is going to bite those researchers in the ass. Any research they do in the future will automatically be suspect.

    And they did a horrible disservice to their colleagues. With trust among the public at a low, they just made things worse.

  6. Hard to tell whether they've done anything wrong by imidan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Okay, so Google paid a bunch of researchers to do research related to Google. That's how most privately-funded research grants work. Groups don't pay researchers to research things that aren't relevant to the group's purpose. So this part of the article should not be particularly surprising.

    As academic researchers, we have a responsibility to disclose potential conflicts of interest and sources of funding for our work. It is in our best interest to do so because our credibility can be called into question when it is revealed that we omitted this information from a paper, intentionally or not.

    The article is light on details, but if one researcher failed to report a conflict and/or funding source, that's his fault, not Google's. The context is unclear, however. What paper did he publish that failed to acknowledge Google's funding support? Was it about or related to Google? Did he have reason to believe that the paper was insufficiently related to create a conflict of interest? Without this information, it's hard to estimate whether anyone in this scenario has actually done anything wrong.

  7. Hard to get paid AND let the data lead outcomes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hard to get paid AND let the data lead outcomes.

    Perhaps the the way to solve this issue is for all funding sources for every published paper to be included?

    Of course, this won't stop the shell companies from being made, but if you can't follow the money, there isn't any chance of figuring out who is paying.

  8. Go on by Miamicoastguard · · Score: 0

    Let's see who can sell out this world the fastest.

  9. Personnaly ... by PPH · · Score: 0

    ... I welcome our behemoth search overlords.

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    Have gnu, will travel.
  10. Re:Hard to tell whether they've done anything wron by erapert · · Score: 1

    Without this information, it's hard to estimate whether anyone in this scenario has actually done anything wrong.

    Indeed, without this information it's hard to believe that anything happened at all.

    I know this one guy who make twenty million dollars overnight by doing odd jobs for this one dude over the internet. You should look into it, maybe something going on there, y'know?

  11. Re:Jews being Jews. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It wasn't a joke.

  12. Re:Jews being Jews. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You fucked that joke up. Might have been funny if you left out the "see".

  13. Re:Hard to tell whether they've done anything wron by gravewax · · Score: 1

    Not sure about google, but many large companies have absolute policies on ensuring that paid researchers declare funding too as it not only looks bad for the researcher but also bad for the company when things like this are discovered (e.g. current story) so saying it isn't googles fault too is absolutely WRONG. It shows they are not doing their own due diligence when involving these researchers.

  14. Be Evil by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Google used to have the slogan "Don't be evil". They did away with it (or watered it down). They are becoming the New Microsoft.

    1. Re:Be Evil by Tanktalus · · Score: 1

      They just paid some researchers to redefine the terms for the dictionary. This way gives them a bit more wiggle room to do what they want.

    2. Re:Be Evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The EU is stealing from Google - that's evil. Google paying researchers to research isn't evil. The bias in this article is confusing, and the lack of detail very telling.

    3. Re:Be Evil by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Well, they've been a dick about many other things. For example, there was a pressured internal program to hook together all their services to make a one-stop social network to compete with "TwitterBook". People found personal info leaking from one service to the other without explicit confirmation, and it's still happening.

  15. Do no... by slapout · · Score: 0

    ah forget it.

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    Coder's Stone: The programming language quick ref for iPad
  16. History Repeats itself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft used the SAME tactic back in the 1980's and 1990's.
    (They still might do this as far as I know).
    However, back in college (circa 1994), well known, collegiate professors would do a "Khrushchev" and shill the latest and greatest Microsoft technology as the model that should be adopted for whatever the topic at hand may have been.
    Academians are probably cheaper to purchase than senators.

  17. Assumes ALL "Science" is paid for now. by Zorro · · Score: 1

    Scientists are all just hired guns now.

    You pay money and the Scientist creates the proof you asked for.

    1. Re: Assumes ALL "Science" is paid for now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course it is. Tenure is hard to come by, and faculty need lots of research dollars in the first 3 to 5 years to at least keep their jobs.

  18. Re:Hard to tell whether they've done anything wron by avandesande · · Score: 1

    Not to mention that if some of the researches ended up writing unfavorable papers, the headline would still be true.

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    love is just extroverted narcissism
  19. Re:Hard to tell whether they've done anything wron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google aren't a charity or foundation, they're a corporation that expects RoI. They're not paying academics out of altruism. All corporate funded research that might influence public opinion or legal judgements should always be seen as extremely suspicious. Universities and researchers are being driven to deal with unscrupulous corporations by government reductions in research funding. They have to make up the shortfall somewhere and that usually means lowering or sometimes even ignoring their ethical standards in order to court corporations with their own agendas. It's a guaranteed way to corrupt science.

  20. Re: Jews being Jews. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My bad, Reich you are.

  21. Re:Hard to tell whether they've done anything wron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's classic clickbait press, what did you expect ? When there's not enough information in an article to prove its claim, just assume that everything is false until they provide necessary evidence.

  22. Don't be evil, be REALLY EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Goodness, seems like we are finding out that Google goes out of their way to do every single evil thing we would have though they could have avoided. It's like they have an evil checklist and are trying to get all of the items checked off. I hear they have taken the Facebook tracking decision to heart and if you have ever used any google site, they will now be tracking you forever across all devices and media.

  23. Re:Hard to tell whether they've done anything wron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's incorrect. When you accept payment from a company, even if you do not realize it, and even if compensation is not cash, you view them more favorably and your professional expertise and non-biased academic assumed position are compromised. It is a breach of ethics. The relationship should have been in bold at the beginning.

    If Google or any company cite studies they funded which have no disclosure as part of regulation proceedings, they have committed fraud.

    I normally agree more with Google than Europe's laws like right to be forgotten, but the above a really the facts.

  24. Re: Jews being Jews. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A million keks to you sir

  25. Re: Hard to tell whether they've done anything wro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except, of course, if you receive federal grants for climate research.

  26. Re:Hard to tell whether they've done anything wron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Replace "Google" with "China" and see if you still think it is "hard to tell".

  27. Re:Hard to tell whether they've done anything wron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure. If some Chinese organization offered research grants and made the funding not contingent upon publication (or suppression) of favorable (or unfavorable) results, that would be fine. As long as the researchers publish their affiliation, funding, and conflicts of interest. The scientific value of research is not in where the money came from, it's in whether or not the science is rigorous and reproducible. If it isn't, it doesn't matter who funded it.

  28. Key word is REGULATOR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most commentators did not noticed the key word. Sometimes regulator function in some fields bring up clear totalitarism.
    For instance - here in Belarus the metrology regulations according the law is laid on one person (position) - who conducts TC (technical committees) which consists of direct or indirect subordinates. In such case a business which first make a "friendly relationship" with regulator effectively disables other accessing markets. No scientific background, no industrial demands plays no role. This is fixed in the law.
    So the only thing remain - discredit so-called "regulator" in the field that regulator cannot suppress or censor - science.

  29. Re: Jews being Jews. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heil not do it again.

  30. Google is cancer by schleimkeim · · Score: 1

    period

  31. Re: Hard to tell whether they've done anything wro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most funding sources require that any publication give attribution to the funding source as either PR or proof that R&D funding was really spent with tangible results. For someone to omit this, it would be a hit to their reputation amongst funding agencies.

  32. says Rupert Murdoch... by openfrog · · Score: 1

    The Wall Street Journal is part of News Corp, owned by Rupert Murdoch.
    Murdoch holds a grudge on Google, and wants Google to pay him for linking to his stinking articles.
    Editorial distance between the owner and the minions running the newspaper?
    None