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Apple's Pitch To Indian Developers: Think Local, Stay Up To Date, and Aim For Design Awards (ndtv.com)

An anonymous reader shares an article: With just under half-a-million registered Apple developers in the country, India is among the most active markets when it comes to making apps for Apple's platforms, but the iPhone-maker took its time before getting involved with the local ecosystem in a meaningful way. Things started to change earlier this year, when Apple setup App Accelerator - a first-of-its-kind initiative, in namma Bengaluru, India earlier this year. More than three months later, the company's efforts are starting to shape up. Gadgets 360 spoke to many developers who have signed up for the App Accelerator, and they are pleased with how things are going so far. Registration to the App Accelerator - which is capable of hosting 500 developers per week - as well as attending the sessions, is free and open to everyone. At the App Accelerator sessions, which range between two to four hours, "evangelists" from the company are getting developers up to speed with the newest technologies, and guiding them to improve their apps and make the best out of the available resources. Developers told Gadgets 360 they get to understand what new technologies Apple specifically recommends they target, with SiriKit being one such example. That's a big and helpful change, developers say, because Indian companies often take long time in leveraging new features Apple introduces. The most crucial advice that developers have walked out of the campus with, they tell Gadgets 360, has been to reconsider their target audience. The evangelists have told them to make apps that serve to the needs of the local market, instead of focusing their energies in chasing the Western audience.

35 comments

  1. Think local by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ie. forget L1 visa or GC sponsorship.

    1. Re:Think local by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like a management decision of any struggling development firm. No new customers, so put it on the developers by saying get your own local shindig started. The "because" or their reason why is vague (No i didn't RTFA). I'd say because the growth spurt of the market has reached its apex. Realistically, they maybe right, getting something going in India pay hold greater spoils.

  2. The neglected India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Evidently India is a very neglected market despite lot of techies and people buying iphones.

    1. iPhones are sold at higher price
    2. All old models are dumped here
    3. Hardly any repair service till recently for screen and battery
    4. Phones replaced under warranty are really bad quality
    5. Most worthless model iphone se manufactured in India to show India presence.

    I've moved on and wish no one buys apple ever! Their phones are great though, no doubt. At 100% premium.

    1. Re:The neglected India by darthsilun · · Score: 3, Informative

      1. iPhones are not subsidized by the carrier

      FTFY.

      And knowing, as I do, what Indian carriers (are allowed to) charge, it's not hard to see why.

      Four years ago I loaded my India phone with R500 (about $8) and only had to reload it for the first time earlier this year. Actually, I probably could have gone for another year on the remaining balance I had – about R70 – when I reloaded it.

      I don't know about iPhone prices, but in my experience other Apple products in the Imagine stores are within one or two percent of the prices at the Apple stores here in the US.

      Now if you want a Kitchenaid mixer, that'll run you nearly double what it costs here in the US.

    2. Re: The neglected India by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      i like the think local ie: stay in india. leave the real tech to the pros in the US, do your windows updates then point and click and...one more thing, dont make any outbound calls or send email, just do your job.

  3. Peak App by sheramil · · Score: 1

    I get the impression that a lot of people at Apple (well, okay, not just Apple) believe that there is a never-ending supply of app ideas that just need to be mined, refined, developed and sold, and that this will never change. What other app ideas can possibly be left? There would be new apps to take advantage of new hardware, but wouldn't the development of that hardware come first? Why aren't they encouraging people to enter that field instead of joining the millions who are already churning out appy app apps for the appy app market? APPS!

    1. Re:Peak App by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every app developer pays $100 month for what essentially costs Apple pennies. If they can get 500,000 Indian dudes to sign up as developers, that's some decent revenue, and then if any of those apps happen to actually make money even better for Apple since they'll get 30% of that too. To me though one of the things that appealed to me about Apple was that Jobs never went for Indian curry rush that every other major software developer went for in the 2000s probably because he had spent time in India as a youth and knew it was a corrupt shit hole. This new move to Indianize Apple is sad. Once companies turn to India it means they are just interested in reducing labor costs and no longer care about innovation.

    2. Re:Peak App by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $100 year i meant, didn't proof read, been coding all night.

    3. Re:Peak App by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ad revenue? Apple discontinued its iAd service. If you advertise in iOS apps it's using Google Admob, and if you track users' data and location it's using some shit like Google Firebase. Apple provides only minimal tools for aggregating usage stats.

    4. Re:Peak App by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "everything that can be invented has been invented."
      - Charles H. Duell, Commissioner of US patent office, 1899.

    5. Re:Peak App by sheramil · · Score: 1

      Every app developer pays $100 month for what essentially costs Apple pennies. If they can get 500,000 Indian dudes to sign up as developers, that's some decent revenue...

      agreed, but how long will 500,000 Indian appy app app app (Jesus, I have to stay away from that word, it's dangerous) coders will pay $100 a month to stay in a field that's saturated and unprofitable for them? It's like the real estate marketing market - not the sale of houses, but the training and licensing of people who sell houses. That market is so saturated, I'm expecting to see them crystallize into a higher form of life.

      So Apple will make some quick cash until their pigeons catch on, and by then, hopefully, some other scam will present itself? That's the logic of a parasite whose host is close to death.

    6. Re:Peak App by sheramil · · Score: 1

      $100 year i meant, didn't proof read, been coding all night.

      How's that angry birds / candy crush mashup / clone / reboot coming along, then?

    7. Re:Peak App by sheramil · · Score: 1

      "everything that can be invented has been invented." - Charles H. Duell, Commissioner of US patent office, 1899.

      Cool.

      What's your killer app idea? How about an app that tracks other apps? Wait, that's been done...

    8. Re:Peak App by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean apples failed iAd service

    9. Re:Peak App by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah well this is the argument of why progressive web apps (look'em up) are needed to remove this staunch cartel and hampering of innovation through, lets face it, platform taxation. Furthermore, progressive web apps already work on Apple platforms, if they just aided Push notifications and a few other goodies it would be an open online market again.

  4. Right now, a guy, his farting 2 India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At this moment, his Chuprahmagupta combleatly digested. Its life for a Common Brown, sending thos wind from his annus. If he will certainly defecate into water supply. Most Welcome at dinnertime.

    Thinking of H-1B.

  5. Sink or Swim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is great --they should have been producing commercial software and competing in the free global trade ALL ALONG rather than exporting their human capital under the loopholes in H1B that allowed Tata, InfoSys and others to fester.

    If they can focus on apps for their own people and make $0.77 per download, they'll be r'atch and along the path of delivering PRODUCTS instead of delivering HOURS they might learn how important QUALITY and INTEGRITY are.

    1. Re: Sink or Swim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like my grand pappy used to say, "What can brown do for you?"

  6. Clear bullshit, staly local. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Indian developers should not chase the western market, that belongs to us. Stay local. Of course we ourselves do not stay local and do chase the Indian market, because we are what?

  7. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Is it just me, or is Apple's development core becoming increasingly cult-like these days?

    It's fairly obvious that when you develop for iOS, you're investing in them, and not specifically yourself. The proprietary nature of their SDK is rather startling these days (especially with the heavy push towards Swift). I also question the value of all these new APIs to the end user- a lot of them just seem like marketing gimmicks designed to sell the next iPhone, released in a half baked state and promptly forgotten about in time for the next "major" iOS release (none of which are particularly major anymore).

    This seems more like a program designed to get people using Apple's latest shiny shit, so Apple doesn't look so incredibly incompetent when they keep grunting out these new features that nobody really wants to support. I can see why they have a vested interest in that though, if they're marketing $800 phones with super awesome software that does everything, you're gonna need developers to use that functionality so the end user doesn't feel like they've wasted their money.

    I guess most of the developers elsewhere have gotten fed up with that kind of nonsense, so now they're turning to the emerging industries and trying to hook them instead. If they can get a cheap labour source producing apps that use all their "great new magical features", then they can keep cranking out new features for new iOS releases and the end users will feel like they're getting what they've paid for, even though I'm sure the quality of those programs is going to be fairly dismal (like the majority of the rubbish on the iTunes app store). I guess if you've run out of innovation and you can't create something that the developers actually want to use, it's easier to just brainwash a new group of developers into using that functionality instead- then you can still call it a "success" even though it would have been an outright failure otherwise.

  8. Apple does not lead in India by aberglas · · Score: 2

    Middle class Indians just do not have a few lazy hundred dollars to spend. (The rich certainly do, but not the middle.) In the west, you need an iPhone because your friends all use iMessage, and it would not be cool to be without. Not so India.

    Hence the Apple attempt to focus Indians on the local market, which Apple wishes to enter more fully. But I suspect the money for Indian developers is still in the west.

    1. Re:Apple does not lead in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize iMessage is not in heavy use, that's a novelty on iPhone.

    2. Re:Apple does not lead in India by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You apparently don't know many actual iPhone users.

      --
      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
    3. Re:Apple does not lead in India by ttyX · · Score: 1

      Well actually Apple doesn't lead in India, there's a considerable user base though. Samsung leads the market, followed by Xiaomi, Lenovo, Oppo & Vivo. Apple isn't even in the top 5, Xiaomi will be #1 in about a year or two. http://indianexpress.com/artic...

    4. Re:Apple does not lead in India by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Most people don't use iMessage.
      They use plain SMS, WhatsApp, Viber, KiK, Telegram, Skype, Threema etc. in no particular order.

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    5. Re:Apple does not lead in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You apparently don't know many actual iPhone users.

      Neither do I. Please enlighten us with whatever you meant with that statement.

    6. Re: Apple does not lead in India by LDAPMAN · · Score: 2

      Most iPhone users have no idea any of those exist. They click on the Messages icon and then send their message. That message defaults to iMessage if the recipient has an Apple device and drops back to SMS if not. There is no way any other messaging platform comes close.

    7. Re: Apple does not lead in India by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      No, it does not default to 'iMessenger', the default is SMS.
      You have to activate internet usage aka iMessenger to useit.
      Hint: most iPhone users do not live in the USA.
      Hint, Nr. 2: every iPhone user has Android friends.
      So: guess what they use to chat with those?
      Hint Nr. 3: it is not iMessenger.

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
  9. 500 Mio revenue from app devs alone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mac + iphone + dev membership

  10. Local is not where the money is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can only imagine how pityfull is the overpriced iPhone market penetration in poor India.
    Nice initiative from Apple, but developers would be crazy to target local for anything iPhone related.

  11. Employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's almost as if Apple are directing their employees... except they don't have any kind of employee rights... or pay. This is the corporate vision of employment in the not too distant future. Whatever they do to workers in India, they'll bring those practices right back to Americans and Europeans. In other words, you're next.

  12. "Are You Registered?" by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

    It is important to be registered if you are going to be a developer in the Apple ecosystem. It isn't enough to put out good code and quality software products. Ultimately you need to work completely within the boundaries of the Walled Garden. Where the Apple organization can shepherd your efforts and make sure you are one of their people.

    Apple is sort of creepy that way.

  13. It takes time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > , developers say, because Indian companies often take long time in leveraging new features Apple introduces.

    It takes time for the one guy to figure it out and post it to Stackoverflow, so the rest can copy and paste it.