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Facebook Is Looking Into Allowing Paywall For Selected Media Stories (techcrunch.com)

New submitter sarbonn writes: Facebook is testing whether or not it can start charging for stories by placing a paywall that appears after ten stories have been viewed from one of its media sources. An interesting takeaway is that Facebook would like to do this by avoiding the mandatory 30 percent cut that Apple and Google get from their stores by going around their app stores. This is being targeted for around October. The news comes from Campbell Brown, who heads Facebook's new partnerships business. "We are in early talks with several news publishers about how we might better support subscription business models on Facebook. As part of the Facebook Journalism Project, we are taking the time to work closely together with our partners and understand their needs," Brown told TechCrunch in a statement via a spokesperson.

35 comments

  1. $ense of it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Money money money ðY'

  2. I don't use FaceBook by Zombie+Ryushu · · Score: 1

    And I'm proud of it.

    I browse the web with uBlock Origin, I use FaceBook Disconnect and GreaseMonkey. I IM from my Mobile Device through XMPP to a Spectrum 2 Server.

    What I do want to know is, how can I get information on what FaceBook knows about me as a non-user.

    1. Re:I don't use FaceBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Really, I commend you on trying to be private but the cat is out of the bag. No matter what you do information about you from others even mentioning you on a Facebook page to just turning your cell phone on is giving someone somewhere your information.

      I've faced it along time ago - our privacy is dead and not much we can do about it.

  3. Paywalled fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's the best kind of fake news. Fake News Premium. Can only be read on an iPhone.

    1. Re:Paywalled fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fake news? More like Rake Brews! Am I rite?

  4. Paywall the whole thing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we put all of Facebook behind a paywall, please?
    As paying customers, those who want to use the service might actually be able to convince FB that *they* are the customer rather than the source of product (personal information) that FB sells to advertisers. And, for those of us who could care less about FB, it's all paywalled and won't bother us.

    1. Re:Paywall the whole thing! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      Better yet, give them their very own TLD, and require all advertising to be served from the same TLD. Do the same with Twitter, Google, etc. Make it a requirement to serve all advertising and content (including css and javascript) from the same domain as the site. Not only will it make it easier to stop tracking, but it will also make it easier to track down just who is serving malware.

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    2. Re:Paywall the whole thing! by dohzer · · Score: 1

      It already has a global paywall. The currency is your soul and the amount is all of it.

    3. Re:Paywall the whole thing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like one of those faggot bible thumpers. How's that Trump dick taste?

    4. Re:Paywall the whole thing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will also make it much easier to censor content, which is the same reason why the pornography industry objected to the .xxx TLD. ...

      Oh wait I forgot, you are in favor of censorship of most forms of speech, and advocate an outright ban on any form of anonymous speech.

      Captcha: infidels

    5. Re:Paywall the whole thing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You sound like one of those faggot Evergreen State assholes. How's that Hillary dick taste?

  5. Unexpected benefit? by lhowaf · · Score: 1

    This could actually be a positive development. If consumers will start paying for credibly-reported news, that could be a boon to journalists and a benefit to the populace (and democracy, where applicable).

    1. Re:Unexpected benefit? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      This could actually be a positive development. If consumers will start paying for credibly-reported news, that could be a boon to journalists and a benefit to the populace (and democracy, where applicable).

      Except the money won't be going to journalists.

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    2. Re:Unexpected benefit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NY Times, Washington Post, and the like are not totally credible news. Consider who owns those publications, and what their motives are. Furthermore, many have already cut so much of their staff and organization. It's doubtful such additional subscription fees would help much to stem the tide of cost-cutting.

      Newspaper businesses have traditionally been oligopolies within a particular region. The internet has pretty much killed that. On-line local newspapers could work, but rarely do due to the extreme low price of advertising verses traditional print rates.

      What hasn't changed are many of the major newspapers being mouthpieces for well connected businessman to influence public opinion to advance their own agendas. It's foolish to pay for that.

      Even if such fees catch on, how does the media intend to stop piracy. News articles are even easier to copy and distribute than music tracks.

      However, if, by a miracle, paywalls are perfectly locked down preventing their news articles from being read and shared with others, that will simply lead to alternative publications filling the void along with the public relying more word-of-mouth leading to rumors and even less understanding of what's happening.

      Finally, I say bring on the Facebook news paywall to dissuade users from bothering with news there. Too many rely on Facebook for things they shouldn't.

    3. Re:Unexpected benefit? by pauljlucas · · Score: 1

      So if credible news costs money and news of lesser credibility is free, which do you think most Joe Sixpacks will read?

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    4. Re:Unexpected benefit? by lhowaf · · Score: 1

      Aw, man. You guys are harshing my buzz! Don't you think, though, that we're better off paying for an NYT article than slurping up some alt-right drool?

  6. A paywall to view more advertising. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Genius.

  7. If FB wants this content, IT should pay for it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give that pile of capital something to do worth while, and maybe make using FB worth more than ZERO to the end user. Side bonus, it props up the necessary institution of journalism.

    Write a check, Schmuckerberg.

  8. Fair and Balanced.. by bjwest · · Score: 2

    I'm sure it's going to be just as fair and balanced as that other 'F' news site. Possibly even more so when their algorithms kick in and show you only news that align with your world view.

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  9. Facebook is the new AOL by u19925 · · Score: 1

    Those of us in 40s and more would remember AOL even if they didn't use. The only time I had to use AOL was when my wife joined UC Berkeley extension online UNIX course and the professor made it mandatory to use AOL for assignments. Many people didn't use any other app to access internet other than AOL app. You could subscribe to books, magazines, courses, etc on AOL. Companies bought keywords on AOL (like company pages on Facebook).

    More I read about Facebook, more similarity I find with AOL. AOL's popularity was tied to the fact that it was dial up internet provider and internet wasn't well standardized (Netscape came much later). FB's popularity is tied to it being free and social interaction by its users. Not sure what will come in future that will kill FB.

    1. Re: Facebook is the new AOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully stuff like this

  10. Media stories ruined Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ignoring the privacy and big data issues: Facebook actually was useful at some point. It was a pretty decent groupware solution, especially its events feature. People posted personal updates, some more interesting than others, but in general it was an efficient place to check on your network with a for the time unparalleled clean and useful interface. I quit when most of my feed was about who read what article, or commented on it.

    (The actual trigger however was when they made the colour of Messenger customisable. That's exactly the kind of crappy clutter that made people leave Myspace.)

    1. Re:Media stories ruined Facebook by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      Ignoring the privacy and big data issues: Facebook actually was useful at some point.

      So were buggy whips and mustache wax.

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    2. Re:Media stories ruined Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ignoring the privacy and big data issues: Facebook actually was useful at some point.

      So were buggy whips and mustache wax.

      They still are ... you obviously don't share my bdsm fantasy

  11. Fuck Facebook by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Never used it, never will.

    And even if I did, if they think I'd be willing to pay for the drivel that they're going to spam into their "news" feeds, all I can say is "HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!"

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    1. Re:Fuck Facebook by coofercat · · Score: 1

      I both do and don't understand their proposed model - you get charged because you're using the site more. That sounds good in principle, because you're charging by usage. But you're encouraging less use, which invites people to google for whatever they want to read, which naturally takes them out of facebook.

      Zuck is a lot richer than me, so I'm sure I can't tell him much about how to make money. This all seems very weird though.

  12. Not News by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    I never ever read Facebook for the news. When others quote FB news, I disregard it. Untrustworthy sources denies validity.

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  13. you want to avoid paying that 30%? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    quit pushing "apps" and, ya know, actually build a usable web interface that doesn't slow down to a fucking crawl once you page down a few times. pagination is a thing, zuck, USE IT.

  14. who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Relevant part of my hosts file:

    127.0.0.1 facebook.com
    127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com
    127.0.0.1 ssl.facebook.com
    127.0.0.1 *.facebook.com
    127.0.0.1 fbcdn.net
    127.0.0.1 www.fbcdn.net
    127.0.0.1 *.fbcdn.net
    127.0.0.1 fbcdn.com
    127.0.0.1 www.fbcdn.com
    127.0.0.1 *.fbcdn.com
    127.0.0.1 facebook.net
    127.0.0.1 www.facebook.net
    127.0.0.1 *.facebook.net

    Let them paywall all they want.

  15. Translation by BadTuna · · Score: 2

    "...work closely together with our partners and understand their need for money..."

    FTFY

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  16. Shit website by Stephen+Chadfield · · Score: 2

    I do use Facebook but I don't think it is very well designed. It is low down on my list of sites I would pay money to use if I was forced to. Very much in the "ditch if paywalled" group.

  17. Pay-walling content on facebook? Awesome! by Veilex · · Score: 1

    They can't roll this out fast enough! The sooner it rolls out, the quicker people start jumping ship! There are so many venues for free news that pay-walling your particular venue is financial suicide. The mainstream media is going to love this as well. Weakened competitors are far easier to buy out.

  18. How many subscriptions at a time? by tepples · · Score: 1

    One problem is that a subscription to WSJ doesn't help if the articles you want to read are spread out across NYTimes, LATimes, Washington Post, and other paywalled outlets.

  19. micropayment news: something from my Y2K by swschrad · · Score: 1

    I have been flogging this idea for almost 20 years. about time somebody picked it up.

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    1. Re:micropayment news: something from my Y2K by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enough "micro" payments will bleed you dry as certain as a sliced artery will
       
      ... it will just take a little more time and be a lot more painfull.

      Go ask the chineese about their (rather old) torturing called "the death of a thousand cuts". Or, if you want to stay in this era, how much money gamers have spend on "free to play" games like farmville and the likes.