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Microsoft Launches A Counterattack Against Russia's 'Fancy Bear' Hackers (thedailybeast.com)

Kevin Poulsen writes on the Daily Beast: It turns out Microsoft has something even more formidable than Moscow's malware: Lawyers. Last year attorneys for the software maker quietly sued the hacker group known as Fancy Bear in a federal court outside Washington DC, accusing it of computer intrusion, cybersquatting, and infringing on Microsoft's trademarks... Since August, Microsoft has used the lawsuit to wrest control of 70 different command-and-control points from Fancy Bear... Rather than getting physical custody of the servers, which Fancy Bear rents from data centers around the world, Microsoft has been taking over the Internet domain names that route to them. These are addresses like "livemicrosoft[.]net" or "rsshotmail[.]com" that Fancy Bear registers under aliases for about $10 each. Once under Microsoft's control, the domains get redirected from Russia's servers to the company's, cutting off the hackers from their victims, and giving Microsoft a omniscient view of that servers' network of automated spies. "In other words," Microsoft outside counsel Sten Jenson explained in a court filing last year, "any time an infected computer attempts to contact a command-and-control server through one of the domains, it will instead be connected to a Microsoft-controlled, secure server."

97 comments

  1. If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    There'd be colonies on Mars.

    1. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by aliquis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If it weren't for Russia we'd be Germans.
      And it would had been great!

    2. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Certainly that's an easier thing to imagine than you learning English.

    3. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      You don't wanna see my German.

    4. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Me fail English? That is unpossible!

    5. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Not sure if trolling or just dumb.

      The whole 'space race' pissing contest with Russia was the direct impetus for approximately 99.999% of the development of space flight technology.

      If it weren't for Russia you wouldn't have a fucking cell phone.

    6. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Nonsense. Germany would have still failed. Greater expansion beforehand perhaps, but there was still a whole lot of the world left.

    7. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by AK+Marc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nope, you are looking at WWII without Russia, but failed to account for the 10,000 years before that. If there were no Russia, the Mongols would have conquered the land in that area long ago, then the question of who would have been holding it for WWI. If Russia didn't participate in WWI, the results may have been different. And since WWII was a result of WWI, that would cause a great difference in WWII, if it ever happened. So no, it's unlikely we'd be speaking German, though it has been proposed as the official language of the USA, back when there were almost as many German speakers as English speakers, Before WWI, we've fought the English, but not the Germans. Another reason there was a big push to join WWI with the Germans against the English. Had we not soured on Germany from WWII, we'd still be talking about whether we entered WWI on the wrong side. But with Germany earning villain status in WWII, we retcon'ed justification for fighting against them in WWI.

    8. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      TRUMP would be in debtor's prison, years ago.

    9. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Jokes on you. English practically is German.

      Also why do you think the English are called Anglo Saxons? What was the Queen's last name before her ancestors changed it?

      Hitler didn't want to invade the UK because it had already been conquered.

    10. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by Hognoxious · · Score: 0

      Jokes on you.

      Joke's. Short for "Joke is".

      English practically is German.

      Really? So why did I do it as a separate subject in school? Why are there Pimsleur courses on it?

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    11. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by KiloByte · · Score: 0

      If it weren't for Russia we'd be Germans.

      You mean the same Russia that started that war? The same Russia that in 1944 shot at American planes and supported Germans, just so they have a slightly stronger propaganda stance if the Warsaw Uprising fails?

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    12. Re: If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Pointing out typos in the age of autocorrect. His phone could have just as easily removed the apostrophe as he could have forgotten to add it. Also, his point was that English was born of German; not that they're currently identical.

    13. Re: If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lmao. You're nuts. We had the technology in 1947: https://m.slashdot.org/story/327521

    14. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the Russia that did this.

    15. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by David_Hart · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nope, you are looking at WWII without Russia, but failed to account for the 10,000 years before that. If there were no Russia, the Mongols would have conquered the land in that area long ago, then the question of who would have been holding it for WWI. If Russia didn't participate in WWI, the results may have been different. And since WWII was a result of WWI, that would cause a great difference in WWII, if it ever happened. So no, it's unlikely we'd be speaking German, though it has been proposed as the official language of the USA, back when there were almost as many German speakers as English speakers, Before WWI, we've fought the English, but not the Germans. Another reason there was a big push to join WWI with the Germans against the English. Had we not soured on Germany from WWII, we'd still be talking about whether we entered WWI on the wrong side. But with Germany earning villain status in WWII, we retcon'ed justification for fighting against them in WWI.

      Based on what I read, the theory that the US was close to joining the German side in WW1 seems to be a bit of revisionist history.

      US banks had lent money to the allies, a large number of American citizens had joined the Allies, and the Germans were sinking unarmed American ships in WW1 prior to the US entering the conflict. It seems highly unlikely that the US would have ever joined the German side. There was propaganda from both sides lobbying the US form their initial neutral stance. However, there were a large number of factors against joining Germany.

      It's possible that I missed something. If so, provide some sources please.

    16. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Die you fucking nazi scum!

    17. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by unixisc · · Score: 1

      If it weren't for Russia we'd be Germans. And it would had been great!

      Where are you from - America or Europe? If the latter, you are right. If the former, then no: it would have been impossible for the Wehrmacht to invade the mainland US, particularly w/ them being under constant pressure to keep Europe reined in.

    18. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by unixisc · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This may seem a quibble over semantics, but can we avoid using the term 'Russia', which in this thread, conflates Tsarist Russia, the Soviet Union and today's Russian Federation? That would be like conflating Kaiser Wilhelm II, Adolf Hitler and Angela Merkel

      The Soviet Union that is often credited w/ being key to winning WWII was the same country that started off in the war on the same side as Hitler - ref: the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact. It doesn't deserve credit for being on the right side just b'cos Hitler turned on them!

    19. Re: If It Weren't For Russia by KGIII · · Score: 1

      The expression used is, 'practically German.'

      English is practically German like my chickens are practically brontosaurus.

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    20. Re: If It Weren't For Russia by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Weren't the Mongols stopped in Hungary?

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    21. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I'm Swede :)

      Sweden was never invaded by Germany but Germany was already the most influencing country and may still be the market we export to the most. Even if Germany would only had ruled "Spain to Austria" so to speak or whatever (not UK and Russia) then it would of course have had an incredible influence upon us here in Sweden and that would had been the norm.

      If they had also beat UK and possibly even Russia.. Well.. go figure.. Then it would had been the major ideology of the world. I guess.

      To live in a dictatorship haven't seemed as attractive before. Of course not the bad behavior against people either.

      However considering how socialism and large government / people ruled from above is looking like it's coming back with nowhere to run or how globalists don't care about the peoples and their cultures but rather what to destroy that for conformity.. well. Then it looks pretty attractive. At-least with a strong Germany the outcome would had been something I've pretty familiar with and which would had been European.
      Now we're just destroyed as immigration is used as a weapon against us either for reformed markets or for a larger need for a strong and powerful government (more likely the later? Even though our leaders may have intended the former when they started doing it), regardless of which one less power to the normal individual and more power to either the government or the few who own the most. Neither option make me a winner. I wish freedom and ownership of your own life and property ended up being the winner so one at-least had a chance (if they want to equalize the economical possibilities then I prefer redistribution paid out to each citizen to do whatever they want to do with it because that bring less power to the governments / leaders and it still allow us to say pick the schools / school systems we want, live where and how we want, and such. It grant us choice over our own lives whereas more money to the government who then make choices for us doesn't.)

    22. Re: If It Weren't For Russia by jarkus4 · · Score: 2

      The mongol invasion of Europe happened in 13th century, so well before Russia even formed (there were only lots of small Russian states).
      The argument here is that if not for Russia forming we would have more invasions from the asian nomad hordes. Before unification small states in that area had serious problems with stopping the horde especially with Muscovite-Novgorod rivalry. While somewhat true, the hordes were never a long term problem as they usually fell apart after some brilliant leader died and pretenders started fighting among themselves.It would likely only lead to eastern Europe becoming poorer economically and some other country taking this "defender" role (Pol-Lit Commonwealth? one of the german principalities?)

    23. Re: If It Weren't For Russia by klui · · Score: 1

      They weren't stopped there by force. They stopped on their own and returned to their capitol due to internal reasons. I can't remember what that was but is detailed in Dan Carlin's Hardcore History Wrath of the Khans.

    24. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      You are confusing "entered the war" with "declared war". The US entered the war on the side of the Allies, then, after becoming entangled, declared war. The Germans sank US ships in the Atlantic because the US was actively running the English blockade. That act of war was met with an act of war.

      Over history, you are picking one point. Russia wouldn't have saved us from Germany if Russia didn't exist. If Russia wasn't there in the 1800s, then the Ottoman Empire may have ruled it at the start of WWI, making the conflict shorter and of no consequence, so that Germany wasn't punished with reparations that lead to WWII. Again, the lack of Russia doesn't seem to doom the USA.

    25. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by KingBenny · · Score: 1

      im not sure if it would have been great but it sure as hell would have been less complicated if you're white, six feet tall and blonde lol, (lets not forget who invented the eugenics program in the first place btw, give credit where its due but yea) if it werent for americans the nazi party would have had a lack of funds legal battle against underground hackers hm ? daddy warbucks versus the molotov ... i somehow cant shake the feeling this will end bad ... probably a pr nightmare but hey, if you just put a billion on top of that its easily covered. Its what you get for sucking NSA dick mate ... no im not pro-russian, not anti-american, not global or -ist but outhere in the perimeter there are no starts and geopolitics counts for very little to nothing ... it really doesnt

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    26. Re:If It Weren't For Russia by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I have no idea what the second part of your post was about.

  2. Identifying victims by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    With a court order they can look up who is behind the compromised IP.
    Then they can call them up from "Microsoft Techsupport" to inform them that they've been infected with a virus!

    Now that's service!

  3. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is just Microsoft taking over random phishing domains, yes?

    I'm still amazed that the Russian state's superhackers have no state-level tools like the NSA's TAO program revealed to us all and are forced to phish everyone in the hopes of getting a day or two worth of access to an interesting email account and rob rubes of rubles. It's almost like the APT is just some low-level nobodies instead of a state-run organ of a major geopolitical power.

    1. Re:So... by gravewax · · Score: 2

      No it is taking over domains of command and control servers for botnets.

    2. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Red Scare 2.0. If Hillary and the democrats could just take responsibility for their failure and try to learn from it, there wouldn't need to be a mass media campaign trying to start shit with a country capable of sterilizing the planet.

    3. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hillary lost--we get it.

      Proving Russian interference doesn't reverse the outcome of the election. And whether it would or not is utterly beside the point.

      Better President Pence than President Putin's Puppet.

    4. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To me it looks like this are C&C domains. They put well known brands in the name to make the traffic look less suspicious. Besides, if you use a simple and well known tactic like phishing to achieve some intelligence objective, why is the actor an idiot? If it works...

    5. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually it would be kind of scary to have Dominionist Pence as president. At least Trump is somewhat crippled by his narcissism. Pence might actually be able to rally the crazy religious folks.

    6. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Besides, if you use a simple and well known tactic like phishing to achieve some intelligence objective, why is the actor an idiot? If it works...

      Because they got something like 2 days of access to that information by using a noisy tactic that put them on guard immediately and had them call in IT security to harden everything. If they'd used something similar to the items in the TAO catalog, they would most likely still have access to this day.

    7. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey little Fancy Bear, Big Bear caught you. Now, you want to help us with little project now and then or you prefer fifteen years in Siberia? Oh you not sure? How about bullet in back of head one dark night?

    8. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > capable of sterilizing the planet.

      About hundred times over.

    9. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Came here for the Russian apologism. Was not disappointed.

      Since that country made sure Trump won the election, they can't do wrong by you guys can they?

  4. Crowdstrike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Crowdstrike makes this story leave poo in the mouth. Senate wants to see ya Crowdstrike, where's your story now bitch.

  5. If it weren't for Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    We would all be trying to browse the internet with Netscape Navigator... on a Macintosh... using 5 1/4" floppy disks... and Linux and Unix would be nonexistent... and Hillary Clinton would be the president of the USA... in 2017.

    1. Re:If it weren't for Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No.

      Linux was created on an Intel 386. Linux exists because of the AT&T lawsuit against BSD. Without that, it would more likely be a BSD world (or a fork of BSD, as BSD developers reject so many enhancements).

      UNIX has existed longer than Microsoft, and very likely will exist long after Microsoft is gone - so no problems there.

    2. Re: If it weren't for Microsoft by DigiShaman · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It was Microsoft whoring out the GUI to the masses that propelled hardware sales and thus technological innovation from the likes of Intel and others. Even the GPGPU was spawned from Wintel gaming that it eventually crushed SGI.

      No, without Microsoft, either we would still be using Apple, or the entire progression of hardware would have been held back as we nip at the keyboard in CLI at the most advanced version on Linux to date.

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    3. Re:If it weren't for Microsoft by gravewax · · Score: 1

      Actually Microsoft and Unix were both created around the same time in the 70's

    4. Re: If it weren't for Microsoft by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      If Bill Gates mommy and daddy hadn't cooked the contracts with the aid of IBM lawyers, M$ would not even exist today, we would be complaining about IBM. If the Lotus eaters had not stuck to the dream of a thousand dollar spreadsheet and been smart with word perfect, M$ Office would not exist today and we would be cursing the Lotus Eaters. Greed has a very definite habit of taking down American companies to let new companies into the market, that and real arrogance, believing the tripe main stream media puts out about genius celebrity executives, even when those executives pay for that tripe.

      Firefox, Google, Open Office, Linux, Android all exist because of M$'s arrogance and greed, they created the opportunities for those others to get into the market. It seems an inevitability for US corporations. The more money they have, the greater the desire to fuck over customers and the more they believe they can corrupt the government and courts to get away with it but fail regardless.

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    5. Re: If it weren't for Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One was a full multiuser OS, the other wasn't much more than a hacked-up copy of CP/M. Bad comparison.

    6. Re:If it weren't for Microsoft by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Linux exists because Andrew Tanenbaum wasn't particularly interested in producing a 32 bit version of MINUX. Linux may be popular because the AT&T/BSD lawsuits, but it wasn't created in response to them.

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    7. Re: If it weren't for Microsoft by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. You ask the founders of each of the things you listed, and Microsoft greed will not be any of the answers. The name Microsoft likely won't even come up. There's no one solution for everyone, there will always be a need for something else.

    8. Re: If it weren't for Microsoft by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      The comparison is in the creation time, not the fucking quality of the OS. Bad comprehension on your part.

  6. How nice from Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    ...to help (a tiny bit) solve the huge problem their crappy software created in the first place.

    1. Re: How nice from Microsoft... by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      That people click and run shit unsafe shit from the Internet? Jesus Christ. You fuckers cry about not having the freedom to do what you want with your own hardware and then cry harder when you have the freedom to hang yourself.

  7. Project Monarch is Real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "In other words," Microsoft outside counsel Sten Jenson explained in a court filing last year, "any time an infected computer attempts to contact a command-and-control server through one of the domains, it will instead be connected to a Microsoft-controlled, secure server."

    So, sorta like M$ $kype?

  8. Have they checked McCain for polonium? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    It's hardly just malware we face from Russia, Putin is notorious for killing dissidents abroad with radioactive metals, e.g. Alexander Litvinenko killed in London with polonium.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-03-15/litvinenko-hearings-put-putin-s-kgb-state-on-display

    I see John McCain has brain cancer. It's unlikely (given his age cancer is likely by random chance) but he should be checked anyway for radiation. If you think Putin would think nothing of taking POTUS control but would be afraid to poison lesser Americans, you're dreaming.

    1. Re:Have they checked McCain for polonium? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      I think you're the one whose brain is being poisoned. Turn off Maddow before you turn into the next James Hodgkinson.

  9. Putin gave the killers a medal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Litvinenko was poisoned with polonium-210, a rare radioactive isotope. For years the U.K. sought the extradition of two Russian men -- Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun -- who met Litvinenko for tea on the day he was poisoned. And for years Russia has refused."

    "Indeed, last Sunday -- a day before the inquiry was to examine Lugovoi's single interview with British police in Moscow -- President Vladimir PUTIN AWARDED HIM A MEDAL "for services to the fatherland" in Russia's parliament"

    You may not want to face reality here, but Putin poisons people who disagree with him, and he does that regardless of where they are. McCain is a Putin critic and USA has a duty to ensure Putin hasn't poisioned him.

    You can pretend that checking is somehow a left wing or political thing to do. No, it's defending a countries leaders from foreign assasins of a rogue state.

    1. Re:Putin gave the killers a medal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      So we're officially assigning preemptive blame to Putin for literally every unfortunate event that befalls literally any Russia critic?

      Was it a Russian conspiracy when you stubbed your toe last week?

    2. Re:Putin gave the killers a medal by Maritz · · Score: 1

      His words were 'check'. Your words were 'officially assign preemptive blame'. Why not just argue against someone's real position? Grow a fucking pair and stop playing with straw men.

      To address the original claim: Putin kills Russians. Mainly journalists. I've yet to see evidence that he kills foreign politicians. It's almost certainly not worth the risk for him. I'd feel fucking foolish if i suggested it, to be honest.

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  10. Wait, what about CIA and NSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they are still the only ones proven to exist, proven to be breaking into networks of peaceful countries and sabotaging them. When will CIA and NSA be sued for what they've done?

    1. Re:Wait, what about CIA and NSA by Z80a · · Score: 2

      When they use a microsoft or google trademark on one of their operations and the operation leaks.

  11. Just preserving the Windows 10 monopoly by cshotton · · Score: 1

    This is just Microsoft trying to make sure they're the only people putting malware on your computer. Old monopolies die hard. ;)

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  12. another day, another demonise Russia story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Is there any of you cretinous enough not to notice the agenda of the owners of Slashdot? Russia this- Russia that- and I've lived long enough to understand how vastly more malicious the anti-russian propaganda is compared to any time in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

    A vote for Clinton was a vote for war against Greater Humanity- yet with Clinton's loss the entire mainstream media of America doubles down and howls every day for any and all action likely to lead to the extermination of BILLIONS of people on our planet. When Trump wasin danger of meeting his anti-war election promises, slashdot and the rest of the filthy zionist media took the Far East to the brink of total catastrophy by pointing Trump at N Korea (and N Korea, remember, only exists at the behest of Japan to prevent a re-unified Korea from overtaking Japan as the no.2 regional power).

    Slashdot and the rest of the neo-liberal left were aghast at the fact that Trump would ineviltably withdraw US support from Clinton's wahhabi terror gangs in Syria, allowing Russia to complete the elimination of ISIS as a major political force in Syria and Iraq.

    Trump finally ended CIA support to Clinton's islamic extremists because Putin took out the entire upper hierarchy of ISIS, along with their British and American handlers, with a strike on two building in which a massive planning meeting was taking place. This strike got minimal coverage in the West, of course- but added many new stars to the infamous CIA memorial plaque.

    Clinton's American terror has been defeated in Syria and Iraq, and will be eventually rolled back in Libya. Clinton did America massive damage in Turkey. Clinton's terror in East Ukraine has been thoroughly beaten as well. The zionist owners of Slashdot are in despair- which is why we see these moronic "anything that bashes Russia" stories now.

    Slashdot wants the big one- war with Iran involving nuclear strikes by the USA- but slashdot has been wanting this since PNAC was first published, and the new owners feel no closer to this holocaust than 15 years back. The rage against Russia smacks of the expected impotence of vile evil warmongers, of course- but the owners of slashdot also gamble that there is a real possibility of triggering a 'crazy' act by Trump whose fallout would lead to a spiral of events giving them the new wars they crave.

    How evil is the neo-liberal left in the West? Tony Blair's Fabian movement that perfectly forms alliance with the traditional warmongers of the right. When Tony Blair first sought real power, posters appeared all across the UK showing him with DEMON eyes (go google this fact). While the posters were passed off as nothing but an opposition knocking campaign, nothing like this has been seen before or since in UK party political propaganda.

    What the owners of slashdot do- in the name of warmongering- can only by described as 'demonic'. What Blair and Clinton did in Iraq, Syria and Libya can only be described as 'demonic'.

    Anyway here's a story about Microsoft and 'hacking'- the same microsoft that spent many billions of dollars designing the NSA "spy in every home" NSA device called kinect 2 (always on microphone and camera system allowing the NSA to track the lives of millions of ordianry Americans). Despite Microsoft and slashdot's best efforts, kinect 2 was utterly rejected by ordianry people- and is now no longer part of Microsoft consoles. You see Slashdot and Microsoft can lie and lie and lie, and Clinton-loving neo-liberals can cry and cry and cry- but chances are despite the propaganda ordinary people will still perceive the truth.

    Russia is the last hope against the unprecedented murder machine we know as the military forces of the USA. America is now Salusa Secundus- and slashdot but another propaganda organ designed to condition the drones.

    1. Re: another day, another demonise Russia story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Get lost Russian shill. Your transparent attempt to Correct The Record won't work here. Fucking Marxists everywhere.

    2. Re:another day, another demonise Russia story by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:another day, another demonise Russia story by Ryanrule · · Score: 1, Insightful

      fuck you ivan

    4. Re:another day, another demonise Russia story by Maritz · · Score: 1

      You'd think you could come up with better propaganda. Here's a tip: don't be so fucking painfully obvious that even slashdotters can spot you.

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  13. Of course, the next minor enhancement... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is to bypass the default DNS servers.

    Not all THAT hard to do. After all, Microsoft does that now to prevent redirecting their own spyware foisted off on users.

    1. Re: Of course, the next minor enhancement... by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      I think it would be easier to go direct to an ISP with an IP known for C&C and have it shut down faster than taking domains through the courts. The hacker assholes need DNS so they can move the servers faster than being identified and shut down. Bypassing DNS or whatever retarded thing you meant won't help.

  14. Russia is also a winner. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I propose to pay fees or royalties per satellite to Russia because was the first.

  15. So Putin to be in charge of US poison defence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Getting poisoned with polonium is not a 'unfortunate event', its an assasination. Putin gave the killer a medal for services to the fatherland, the day after he was interviewed by the UK police visiting Moscow. Putin is not the victim here, the victim is dead of pollonium poisoning and his killers are in Moscow showered with money and a medal from Putin.

    I think you would put Putin in charge of protecting American Congressmen and Senators from poison, rather than face the reality of what Russia is.

    McCain is sick, it's cancer. It's likely his age, but may not be. That needs to be checked. Putin does not respect territorial boundaries, he kills abroad. He does not respect rank, he kills politicians and rigs POTUS elections.

    Really the cyber attacks are just one of Putin's attack vectors. He is a major threat.

    1. Re:So Putin to be in charge of US poison defence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's probably a line somewhere between current mainstream liberal thought and paranoid schizophrenia, but fuck if I can tell where it is.

    2. Re:So Putin to be in charge of US poison defence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course the fact that McCain is a Vietnam vet is more likely the cause of cancer than Putin.

  16. I thought Russia was no big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Remember when Obama told Romney Russia was not our problem anymore? Remember when Clinton did the big Red reset button with Russia. Gee, now that the Democrat's mucked it all up they want to now claim everything is on Trump?? Hmmm. Glad Microsoft is actually doing something about it. But how long did this go on before they did anything?

  17. Reality check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The reality is:

    Russia hacked the US election. Team Trump gladly accepted their help, coordinated with them. Most of Trump's team have been vetted by Moscow, the latest reveal shows Sessions was interviewed. Most of team Trump have financial and commercial links to Moscow. The latest is his Communications director, Anthony Scaramucci, founder of Skybridge Capital.

    http://tass.com/economy/925424

    From TASS, the Russian official news agency:

    "President-elect Trump’s incoming staff advisor and public liaison to government agencies and businesses, Anthony Scaramucci and CEO of the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF) Kirill Dmitriev discussed prospects for US-Russian business cooperation in Davos, according to Scaramucci speaking with TASS on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum (WEF) in what was his first interview with the Russian media. "I saw him [Dmitriev] half an hour ago," he said. "

    So be clear, Scaramucci DID have a meeting with the Russians back in January to discuss lifting sanctions, because lifting sanctions would have to be a precursor for business cooperation.

    All of team Trump have met with the Russians, discussed sanctions, given positive opinions on that, and been approved BY MOSCOW for appointment to team Trump.

    1. Re:Reality check by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 1, Funny

      No! Just stop it! You are being so unfair to President Trump!
      If you just started accepting alternative facts into your life, you'd see how in the alternative reality in which I Trump supporter live, President Trump is the greatestest, most honestest, competentest President this country has ever had! You have just been brainwashed by the FAKE NEWS mainstream media!

      Leave President Pussygraber alone! ;ÂÂ(

  18. Why is this phrased this way? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they actively trying to make people think that this is a government operation? Why not the same with the description of Microsoft?

    "Today Washington put their best layers on stopping a Russian hacking group"
    .

  19. This article is BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $ nslookup rsshotmail.com
    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: rsshotmail.com
    Address: 40.112.210.240 -> 40.112.210.240 United States California San Jose

    $ nslookup livemicrosoft.net
    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: livemicrosoft.net
    Address: 40.112.210.240 -> 40.112.210.240 United States California San Jose

    Doesn't look like thoses are russkies

    1. Re:This article is BS by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

      "Rather than getting physical custody of the servers, which Fancy Bear rents from data centers around the world," go fuck yourself ivan.

    2. Re:This article is BS by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      Some of enjoined domains are listed in Appendix A of this order.

      When the articles refer to a domain name with brackets, mentally insert a pattern. So, instead of livemicrosoft.com, how about livemicrosoftstatistics912.com? Something that doesn't link to the correct server, but looks "legit".

       

    3. Re: This article is BS by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Did you do that before LAST AUGUST or are you stupid? In case you didn't know, this is July. August referred to in TFS was last year.

  20. Yeah, lawyers make us safer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    idiotic approach to the problem of National Security Letters.

  21. Don't pick a malware fight with Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They undoubtedly have more experience since they have been making since inception.

  22. In other words ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft just acquired its own botnet on the cheap. I wonder what they will do with it under the table.

    1. Re:In other words ... by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Telling everybody about it is a great way to start things off isn't it.

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  23. US & WWI by unixisc · · Score: 3, Informative

    In WWI, the US really had no business getting involved or picking sides, and its involvement was a part of Woodrow Wilson's interventionist policies, which was the ancestor of yesterday's neocon policies of Clinton/Bush/Obama. WWI was really the activation of alliances in Europe drawn up along a combination of ethnic and political lines - Serbia + Russia + France + Belgium + UK + myriad other countries along its fringes vs Austria-Hungary + Germany + Bulgaria + Turkey. The US had the lend-lease policy w/ UK and Wilson was busy selling armaments to one of the parties in the war - the Allies, so if you were Germany, that was obviously an act of war. The trigger that had the US join in was the German sinking of US ships carrying weapons to the allies, but it takes a completely subjective view of that to state that the US was provoked into joining the war. The US joined a war it had no business being involved in: there were no national interests involved, nor for that matter, even humanitarian interests: Kaiser Wilhelm II was not remotely similar to Hitler!

    What you are describing is more WWII - the US was in no mood to join the war, and didn't. There was an anti-war movement within the US that saw to it. However, once Pearl Harbor happened, and both Germany & Japan declared war on the US, it wasn't up to FDR at all.

    1. Re:US & WWI by tomachi · · Score: 1

      Does this (Germany bombing unarmed arms ships from USA to UK) not prove that the international trade of weapons is immoral and should be stopped? Is it possible or sensible that each country manufacture their own weapons therefore?

    2. Re:US & WWI by unixisc · · Score: 1

      No, it just proves that if country A is at war w/ country B, and country C is supplying country A w/ weapons, it's perfectly legitimate for country B to sabotage that effort. Including going to war w/ country C.

  24. Re:If It Weren't For Soviets by unixisc · · Score: 0

    Or for that matter, started on the same side as the Third Reich, and only 'switched' due to Operation Barbarossa.

  25. "Putin's hackers" by manu0601 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The paper calls the hacker group "Putin's hackers", and many comments here follow the trend. But Microsoft is a bit more prudent, as noted in TFA:

    Microsoft doesn’t name Russia in its suit, instead describing Fancy Bear as a “sophisticated and well-resourced organization” that remains unidentified.

    Indeed the hackers are probably Russians, and they seem to follow our perceived Russia government's interests, but reducing everything to the enemy's leader, which has to be evil, is basic war propaganda. That does not help thinking, and it drives us away from interesting questions: what are Russia's interests? Does Fancy Bear help serving them?

    1. Re:"Putin's hackers" by guacamole · · Score: 1

      Don't bring the facts here. The Daily Beast needs the sensation for more of those ad-click dollars.

  26. another fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Microsoft doesn’t name Russia in its suit, instead describing Fancy Bear as a “sophisticated and well-resourced organization” that remains unidentified."

  27. Re:If It Weren't For Soviets by jarkus4 · · Score: 1

    If the Germans wouldnt attack, the Russians would a bit later. They joined attack on Poland to get back some territory they considered theirs (remember that they only lost it 20 years earlier). Notice that they didnt join the rest of the war as there was nothing interesting for them there - they just reverted to neutral status. They would just wait for German exhaustion and attack then to gain even more territory. Obviously this plan didnt work.

  28. might as well test anti-aircraft to fight Santa by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    Last year attorneys for the software maker quietly sued the hacker group known as Fancy Bear in a federal court outside Washington DC, accusing it of computer intrusion, cybersquatting, and infringing on Microsoft's trademarks.

    Anyone who talks about "Fancy Bear" or "Cozy Bear" without irony is as much of an idiot at this point as those who still question Obama's birth certificate. It's all based on a CrowdStrike study paid for by the DNC (who wouldn't let the FBI touch it, another giant tell people choose to ignore). But it's a company with no credibility and has ties to the anti-Russian Atlantic Council.

    This is pure swiftboating, only this time flowing from Democrats. The election interference last year wasn't from Russia in the general, but by the DNC in their own primary. Hacking is what Obama did to Angela Merkle's cell phone.

    1. Re:might as well test anti-aircraft to fight Santa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This guy hates democrats so much that he will defend russians even as they install a puppet in his country. And there are millions like him. In short, you are all fucked. Divide and conquer.

    2. Re:might as well test anti-aircraft to fight Santa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear sir.
      Please stop looking at Fox / Sean Hannity. I am not saying that CNN/MSNBC pure as snow, but their lies are small anthills compare to the Bulshit Mountain.

    3. Re:might as well test anti-aircraft to fight Santa by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Please stop looking at Fox / Sean Hannity.

      Well, that's at least a change from the "well u must love Putin!". Same shit, different pile - same as anyone who questioned the Iraq war was labeled a "Saddam lover" back in 2003.

      But back to the subject at hand: put up or STFU on Russiagate evidence. Until you guys do, you're in the same boat as the Birthers or the people who still insist that Bill Clinton ordered a hit on Vince Foster.

  29. Microsoft got yet another malware then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do I understand the article right, that virus is trying to connect Microsoft's command and control center? I am not surprised.

  30. Re:If It Weren't For Soviets by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Possibly! But one of the major surprises for Stalin was that despite several warnings of an impeding German invasion, he refused to prepare. Had he been the head of a democratic country & done that, he'd have been impeached. The only thing that saved the Soviet Union was their strategic depth - their troops could retreat thousands of miles into Siberia, which in fact formed their industrial heartland, since Ukraine & Byelorussia were battlefields & wastelands. And of course, the winter was what saved the Soviets against Hitler, just like they saved the Russians against Napoleon

  31. Re:If It Weren't For Soviets by KiloByte · · Score: 1

    Actually, Russia did prepare well in case of a German invasion, and built not one but two lines of fortifications. Then, Stalin decided to blow up these fortifications when preparing an attack.

    Barbarossa was not a planned backstab but a desperate pre-emptive strike. In most places Germans entered over barbed wire cleared by Russians just a week if not the day before. Barbarossa succeeded (temporarily) only because of extreme incompetence of Russian leadership -- routinely purging anyone with a shred of skill isn't conductive to growing an efficient cadre. There were no contingency plans at all, upon hearing the news Stalin did refuse to hear anyone for a week, the top brass did not dare to do anything without Stalin's approval, making the army collapse. Ridiculous Russian tactics, making them lose 10:1 in terms of manpower even when orders did come in, weren't helpful either.

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