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Sweden Accidentally Leaks Personal Details of Nearly All Citizens (thehackernews.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Hacker News: Swedish media is reporting of a massive data breach in the Swedish Transport Agency (Transportstyrelsen) after the agency mishandled an outsourcing deal with IBM, which led to the leak of the private data about every vehicle in the country, including those used by both police and military. The data breach exposed the names, photos and home addresses of millions of Swedish citizen, including fighter pilots of Swedish air force, members of the military's most secretive units, police suspects, people under the witness relocation program, the weight capacity of all roads and bridges, and much more. The incident is believed to be one of the worst government information security disasters ever.

In 2015, the Swedish Transport Agency hand over IBM an IT maintenance contract to manage its databases and networks. However, the Swedish Transport Agency uploaded IBM's entire database onto cloud servers, which covered details on every vehicle in the country, including police and military registrations, and individuals on witness protection programs. The transport agency then emailed the entire database in messages to marketers that subscribe to it. And what's terrible is that the messages were sent in clear text. When the error was discovered, the transport agency merely thought of sending a new list in another email, asking the subscribers to delete the old list themselves.

241 comments

  1. This is why the US need a smaller government... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0

    The government shouldn't be releasing the personal details of citizens. That's a job for corporations.

    1. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A dam in Egypt sprung a leak. This is why we need to tear down Hoover Dam and abandon hydroelectric power.

    2. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      >> was made available to IT workers in Eastern Europe who had not gone through the usual security clearance checks when the agency outsourced its IT maintenance to IBM in 2015.

      Um...according to TFA it WAS a corporation (IBM) that coughed up the data.

    3. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got Cock Grease XX Extra Stiff. Where are my cock eggs?

    4. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You joke, but when a corporation screws up, you can sue it, you can quit buying their products, you can convince your friends to stop supporting it.

      When the government screws up, you're stuck with it (short of revolution). In fact the way a lot of government union employment contracts are structured, you can't even fire the people responsible for the screwup.

      I've never bought into the claim that all government is good and all corporations bad. Nor have I bought into the claim that all corporations are good and all government is bad. Both can do good things, both can do bad things. The trick is figuring out which things one tends to do better than the other, and giving the job to the more capable entity.

    5. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Says a dude that is morbidly obese even while supposedly on a low-calorie, low-carb diet.

      A smaller government obviously requires skinnier people. Check out my blog post where I lost ten pounds in ten weeks after getting the Greater Goods Basic Bathroom Scale for $20 to accurately measure my weight when the gym scales stopped thunking at 350 pounds.

    6. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No we need smarter, and that means no President Transparent-Walls-To-Avoid-Bag-Of-Drugs.

    7. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It took you 10 weeks to lose 10 lbs? And you're bragging?!

    8. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      It took you 10 weeks to lose 10 lbs? And you're bragging?!

      According to coworker who is a martial arts expert, losing a pound per week is a sustainable over the long term.

    9. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      This is why we need to tear down Hoover Dam and abandon hydroelectric power.

      Have you been to Hoover Dam in recently? I was there in 2013. The water level has dropped substantially due to global warming. If the water level continues to drop, there won't be enough water to run the turbines.

    10. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    11. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you sound bitter, honey bunny

    12. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you sound bitter, bro

    13. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by PPH · · Score: 0

      A reactor in Chernobyl melted down. Thank goodness this was a singular event, not likely to ever happen again.

      --
      Have gnu, will travel.
    14. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got bitter honey. Where are my cock eggs?

    15. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by p43751 · · Score: 1

      And now it is according to You. You have a reference to a more secure source? Your coworker could have got it from an idiot.

    16. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You have a reference to a more secure source?

      https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/losing_weight/index.html

      It's natural for anyone trying to lose weight to want to lose it very quickly. But evidence shows that people who lose weight gradually and steadily (about 1 to 2 pounds per week) are more successful at keeping weight off. Healthy weight loss isn't just about a "diet" or "program". It's about an ongoing lifestyle that includes long-term changes in daily eating and exercise habits.

    17. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We need to get rid of government. The government has no business demanding we seek permission slips to utilize our rights of travel. It's a fundamental human right that the government is utilizing to arbitrarily punish those it doesn't like and the excuse of safety is bull shit. The government(s) of the world are doing all sorts of things to suspend or issue points that have nothing to do with safety. From punishing juvenile graffiti offenders to punishing those who are being screwed with via the courts under 'child support' laws. And there are a ton of things you can get 'points' for which will then be used to revoke your right to drive where the 'crime' had NOTHING to do with safety. For instance in New Hampshire transporting drugs can get you points on your license. This is not an under the influence of drugs charge here- we're talking about someone whose merely driving safety who happens to be transporting drugs. Transporting drugs is no more dangerous than transporting anything else as it relates to driving or otherwise travelling on the roads.

      We're trying to and successfully are fixing many of these arbitrary and problematic laws in New Hampshire thanks to the growing support and migration of liberty minded people to the state (check out http://www.freestateproject.org/ and http://www.freekeene.com/ and http://www.freetalklive.com/ and https://forum.shiresociety.com/ amongst just a few... and Derick Js Victimeless Crime Spree documentary is also awesome! but there are also other movies that are less civil disobedience oriented that cover the Free State Project). We've got a long ways to go, but just this past year we've gotten several new bills passed in many different areas from drugs to guns to crypto currency. All pro-freedom.

    18. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're doing the bare minimum and think it's bragworthy?

    19. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      So you're doing the bare minimum and think it's bragworthy?

      Yes. Now bitch about something else.

    20. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by bws111 · · Score: 1

      Nowhere in TFA does it say IBM coughed up the data. It specifically says the government did it.

    21. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Altrag · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You can sue the government in many democracies. Not sure if Sweden is one of those places, but its certainly not something you can arbitrarily claim without looking into it. (Whether its useful to sue the government is another question of course..)

      and giving the job to the more capable entity

      Unfortunately neither organization has mastered preventing human error, so while you're not incorrect.. your statement is rather irrelevant to "someone f'd up," no matter how big an f they upped.

    22. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you're fat and just starting out, you can lose 10 pounds in a week. Hold back on salty foods and carbs and you will drop weight like a motherfucker. Of course that's just water retention.

      I guess what I'm saying is, a 375 pound man losing 10 pounds in 10 weeks isn't statistically significant enough to imagine a larger trend.

    23. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When the government screws up, you're stuck with it (short of revolution).

      I don't know where you live but around here we have these things called elections which let us change governments without all the shooting, rioting and deaths of a typical revolution. You should try them, they aren't fantastic but they are a lot better than the alternative.

    24. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      When you're fat and just starting out, you can lose 10 pounds in a week.

      If you're a butterball, which I haven't been in 30 years. I rode a bike for 20 years and worked out at the gym for the last ten years. I carry more muscle than fat.

      I guess what I'm saying is, a 375 pound man losing 10 pounds in 10 weeks isn't statistically significant enough to imagine a larger trend.

      Check back in January when my weight is 325 or so. That was my lowest adult weight when I rode a bike to work for 100 miles per week for three years.

    25. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      This is why the US need a smaller government...

      How would a smaller government in the US mitigate a problem in Sweden?

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      It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
    26. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're no butter ball, you're bottom heavy like a traffic cone, with most of your weight in your big fat dick. How thick does it swell out when you're laying a cock egg?

    27. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, we saw your "toned cyclist's legs and flat bony ass". The fact that you look like no cyclist on Earth doesn't matter to you.

      You are built like a sack of potatoes on stilts. You have wrist fat. You do not carry more muscle than fat.

      You are barrel-chested, which is almost always a sign of poor health, and combined with your obesity, you can kiss your retirement plans goodbye. Not that they were worth much in any case.

    28. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...or a personal website that exposes every detail of your life going back to childhood, huh Tubby?

    29. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you sound autistic, sis

    30. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you sound incestuous, bro-sis

    31. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're new to the whole "creimer" phenomenon, huh? You see, he even agrees that he's doing the minimum. But in no way does it mean he's doing the minimum, he's a miracle worker, after all.

    32. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, thank GOD that coal is such a better alternative that doesn't cause cancer or other health defects in the slightest, otherwise we'd have to go without electricity according to your logic.....

    33. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you sound inbred, cuz

    34. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      First of all - it needs to be made clear that the article is misleading since it is conflating two unrelated incidents. First there was the leak of addresses of people with hidden identities, then there was the handover the foreign IBM staff that had not had proper background checks. There is no (public) evidence in the second problem that any data was actually leaked due to this.

      One thing to remember here is that what triggered this shit to begin with was the government agency slimming down by replacing it's internal IT services by outsourcing them to a private company.

      Another third thing to remember is that the director-general was fired and convicted. The board members has been replaced. The discussions now are whether the ministers, that were notified by the director-general that the agency intended to ignore the laws by fore-going the backgrund checks but took no actions, will have to go.

      Heads are rolling because of this, and it's the heads at the very top. Sue a private company, who would lose their job?

    35. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out the bulletproof diet, you can lose a ton of weight by intermediate fasting. Been doing it a year, lost over 60 lbs

    36. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by arth1 · · Score: 1

      The discussions now are whether the ministers, that were notified by the director-general that the agency intended to ignore the laws by fore-going the backgrund checks but took no actions, will have to go.

      I think you mean forgoing, unless you mean they preceded the background checks?

    37. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After ten years of working out .... (checks creimer's posts).... Oh good god, ten years of sitting row pulls is not "working out" you mongoloid!

    38. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're ugly too.

    39. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Have you been to Hoover Dam in recently?"

      in recently? creimer, that's pathetic. Is English your first language? What was the native tongue on your planet?

    40. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't post a picture of yourself wearing a corset with huge neck rolls and then expect us to believe you are 375 pounds of pure muscle - even champion powerlifters will weigh less than you but still have a substantial amount of body fat they can lose. Gaining substantial muscle is not easy, it's not something that happens from working an office job and doing cable lifts on weight machines.

      In all honesty, I can go a month in the Bay Area and not see a single person who is more of a butterball than you are.

    41. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      ...or a personal website that exposes every detail of your life going back to childhood, huh Tubby?

      The personal website that got 60+ visitors today because of this comment shit storm? Keep up the good job! ;)

    42. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Immerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      $#@! 'em. And good on you for finding something that tilts the tide and sticking to it. Any idiot can get fast, satisfying results for a little while - it takes determination and vision to accept that what took years to put on will take years to take off. Best of luck in maintaining your vision and embracing your needed lifestyle changes.

      An old friend of mine had a sailing metaphor philosophy on life - as long as you can keep trending in the right direction you'll get where you want to go. The important thing is to keep your hand on the wheel and not let yourself get discouraged when you occasionally get blown off course.

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    43. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by physicsphairy · · Score: 2

      You can sue the government in many democracies.

      I.e., you can sue yourself, the taxpayer. How would anyone in Sweden receive remedy given that every Swede was affected? You would have to tax each citizen the exact cost of the judgement they receive or else reallocate money from their public services.

      Unfortunately neither organization has mastered preventing human error,

      Government seems to think that punishing 'human error' is a great way to prevent it -- provided we are talking about citizens acting privately. If I make the human error of not noticing a change in speed limit the government is happy to fine me and possibly jail me and take away my driving privileges.

      Businesses can and do punish human error by firing people, or the business itself may be snuffed out by consumer boycott, loss of contracts, or revenue-gobbling lawsuits. Governments, however, tend not apply such drastic consequences to themselves. If the government, e.g., 'accidentally' violates law concerning privacy of its citizens, no one is going to prison.

      So while it's true that mistakes happen regardless, in only one case is there a significant incentive to avoid them.

    44. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, 60 a day? That's it?

    45. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 1

      Classy with the affiliate link there, that wasn't at all transparently motivated.

      --
      "To any truly impartial person, it would be obvious that I am right."
    46. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The trick is figuring out which things one tends to do better than the other, and giving the job to the more capable entity.

      I'd rather say which is the one that we can control better.
      For that we must define "we" which I believe are everyone who share the same interest. In many cases we fail at this first step when some believe that they can bypass such outcomes and can avoid the fate most of us must face.
      Then we should know what this common interest is. I think we need structures that depend on our support. Both governments and corporations do so as they need our votes and spending power. The question is how we can organise and manage using our (voters and customers) powers effectively.
      This can work by listening to each other and giving credit to concerns and by acting all at once. If some boycott a company that won't hurt them, if everybody does it at the same time then it'll have its impact.

    47. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the article this is not simply a reasonable fuck up like: "Oh, snap, there was a privilege escalation exploit in some system and we didn't know". It went on for a few years, just emailing the data.

    48. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey hey, he said 60 PLUS. That's Facebook-level traffic, and he can retire immediately! Although how IT companies in Silicon Valley are supposed to clean their closets after creimer's gone is a mystery.
      He is a miracle worker, after all.

    49. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As bad as creimer is with his bizarre unrelated stories and fucking amazon links, you twats following him around are about an order of magnitude more pathetic.

    50. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have a very low bar for a "good job". No wonder you live in a fantasy world.

    51. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You have a very low bar for a "good job".

      For today's Slashdot, 30+ per day is normal. Ten years ago, 300+ per day was normal. In 1999, 3,000+ was normal and I would worry about the server crashing.

    52. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Well, let me introduce you to a concept; failing gracefully. This means your server should be stress tested and fine tuned to insure it never crashes, just stop accepting requests when the load is too high or whatever, there is multiple way to achieve the goal. A server that crashes under load is misconfigured.

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    53. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Well, let me introduce you to a concept; failing gracefully.

      Back in 1999, servers just crash and most were misconfigured anyway.

    54. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately neither organization has mastered preventing human error,

      Government seems to think that punishing 'human error' is a great way to prevent it -- provided we are talking about citizens acting privately. If I make the human error of not noticing a change in speed limit the government is happy to fine me and possibly jail me and take away my driving privileges.

      Businesses can and do punish human error by firing people, or the business itself may be snuffed out by consumer boycott, loss of contracts, or revenue-gobbling lawsuits. Governments, however, tend not apply such drastic consequences to themselves. If the government, e.g., 'accidentally' violates law concerning privacy of its citizens, no one is going to prison.

      Not sure why you attempted to gave examples that compare orange (1st paragraph about government) and apple (2nd paragraph about business). Anyway, punishment is a type of teaching people to learn certain thing. If you are being punished by violate the speed limit, then you better remember not to "not noticing a change in speed limit" again. Or better yet, remember to pay attention while driving in an area you are not familiar and/or use common sense on how fast should you be driving in an area by default (including study simple rules/laws of the area before you visit).

      I know that a warning should be done before punishment, but how many warning do they need to give you? How do they actually keep track of that when they don't have a centralized data? Oh wait, many people are against centralized data because of "privacy".

      Avoiding a mistake is not trivia and is extremely difficult to do so. Why? To be able to avoid, you must know all events of what could happen. Then you must have people who are smart enough to catch every error/wrong things before they go out. The former is likely impossible because there are infinite number of factors in practical world. The possibility for the latter is even worse because human error is what we are talking about here. If you don't want human error, replace human with a routine robot which does not think but rather keeps doing the same thing over and over (as a routine). No change whatsoever because changes in a routine could introduce an error (bug) to the robot.

    55. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really, we are like zoologists discovering a new mutation. We do it not because it is easy, we do it because it is hard!

      And if you didn't also notice his disjointed writing style and frequent grammar errors, you should start noticing. He has organic brain damage, guaranteed. Possibly fetal alcohol syndrome, but his face is so bloated it's hard to see the distinguishing features.

      Look at this amazing author:

      https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/4171001.C_D_Reimer

      He puts his fat ugly mug on there, and makes us believe he is super fit and thin. Look at the reviews. Try reading one of his "stories". The guy's not qualified to write ingredient labels on soup cans.

      That he manages to feed himself and shit into the bowl every day is the real "miracle work" this fat mongoloid does.

    56. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Triklyn · · Score: 1

      i'm down 13 pounds over 5 weeks, but that appears to be mostly water weight.

      cut out wheat and milk altogether, and i think i'm on a 700-800 calorie deficit, other than that, haven't changed much.

    57. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pointing out every turd that drops from a lazy dog's ass. People start to wonder wtf is your problem and why are you so obsessed with dogs asses and what comes out.

    58. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about a win98 server or, NT4 maybe?

      Because, the failing gracefully principle has been around since 1970 in Unix. My servers have been configured this way since 1996.

      If only serving webpages, all you have to do is configure apache accordingly with rate limiting. So, instead of your server crashing, users get an error saying that the server is currently too busy to handle their requests.

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    59. Re:This is why the US need a smaller government... by Altrag · · Score: 1

      Wow. That was some verbal gymnastics you went to for essentially "durr gummint bad!"

      you can sue yourself, the taxpayer

      Unless you happen to be the ruler of a monarchy, the government, the people who pay for the government (ie: citizens) and the people who work for the government are all separate entities. Sure, your own taxes would in part pay for the settlement if you win the lawsuit, but that's not much different than suing McDonald's and having the Big Mac you ate 3 years ago pay for some tiny fraction of the settlement.

      At the end of the day, only people can generate wealth, regardless of whether they're generating it for a company, or for their government (via taxes) or for themselves directly. If you don't believe me, go register a company and do nothing with it. You will see exactly $0 profit (actually somewhat negative since registration isn't free!)

      Government seems to think that punishing 'human error' is a great way to prevent it

      What? Whoever said that? Just because its impossible to pick out one accidental speeder from the 100s or 1000s of fully-aware ones, doesn't mean anyone -- even the government -- thinks its "great" to punish honest mistakes.

      Businesses can and do punish human error by firing people

      Well the government can't really "fire" a citizen, so I'm not sure what you're suggesting here.

      If the government, e.g., 'accidentally' violates law concerning privacy of its citizens, no one is going to prison.

      Just like all of the people who go to prison for the hundreds of corporate data breaches we see every year right? Of course not. In this case, the government fired and fined the employee in question -- exactly what you'd expect a businesses to do in that situation (hell, they wouldn't even get to levy a fine like that.. or at least would have no authority to enforce it if they did unless they successfully sue you for it.)

      in only one case is there a significant incentive to avoid them.

      I'm not sure which case you're talking about here. You've listed fines and jail if the government catches you and firings if your company catches you. Most people have a strong incentive to avoid all of that. The only "one case" where you claim nothing happens is if you're a government employee, and that's just bullshit since TFA itself straight up laid out the punishment for the employee who made the mistake.

  2. How are all of those EU privacy regulations workin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since I've had to comply with them for years, it appears they are working fantastic

  3. Helpful tip by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    This story is more fun if, in your head, you read the summary using a Swedish accent.

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    1. Re:Helpful tip by FFOMelchior · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wi nøt trei a høliday in Sweden this yër?

    2. Re: Helpful tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Svedeesh medeea is repurteeng ooff a messeefe-a deta breech in zee Svedeesh Trunspurt Egency (Trunspurtstyrelsee) effter zee egency meeshundled un ooootsuoorceeng deel veet IBM, vheech led tu zee leek ooff zee preefete-a deta ebuoot ifery feheecle-a in zee cuoontry, incloodeeng thuse-a used by but puleece-a und meelitery. Zee deta breech ixpused zee nemes, phutus und hume-a eddresses ooff meelliuns ooff Svedeesh ceetizee, incloodeeng feeghter peeluts ooff Svedeesh eur furce-a, members ooff zee meelitery's must secreteefe-a uneets, puleece-a soospects, peuple-a under zee veetness reluceshun prugrem, zee veeeght cepeceety ooff ell rueds und breedges, und mooch mure-a. Zee inceedent is beleeefed tu be-a oone-a ooff zee vurst gufernment inffurmeshun secooreety deesesters ifer.

      In 2015, zee Svedeesh Trunspurt Egency hund oofer IBM un IT meeentenunce-a cuntrect tu munege-a its detebeses und netvurks. Hooefer, zee Svedeesh Trunspurt Egency uplueded IBM's inture-a detebese-a oontu cluood serfers, vheech cufered deteeels oon ifery feheecle-a in zee cuoontry, incloodeeng puleece-a und meelitery regeestreshuns, und indeefidooels oon veetness prutecshun prugrems. Zee trunspurt egency zeen imeeeled zee inture-a detebese-a in messeges tu merketers thet soobscreebe-a tu it. Und vhet's terreeble-a is thet zee messeges vere-a sent in cleer text. Vhee zee irrur ves deescufered, zee trunspurt egency merely thuooght ooff sendeeng a noo leest in unuzeer imeeel, eskeeng zee soobscreebers tu delete-a zee oold leest zeemselfes.
      Bork Bork Bork!

    3. Re:Helpful tip by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Funny

      See the løveli lakes
      The wonderful telephøne system
      And mani interesting furry animals
      Including the majestic møøse.

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    4. Re:Helpful tip by aliquis · · Score: 2

      You both use the Norwegian and Danish ö, not the Swedish one.

    5. Re:Helpful tip by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Funny

      You, on the other hand, don't recognize Monty Python references. :-)

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    6. Re:Helpful tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      A møøse once bit my sister.

  4. Liability? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nonsense! cloud is the future, not the issue.

    1. Re:Liability? by stooo · · Score: 1

      Nonsense,
      The future is the issue, not the cloud.

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  5. Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Some pretty descriptive quotes from the linked article:

    Swedish Transport Agency uploaded IBM's entire database onto cloud servers

    The transport agency then emailed the entire database in messages to marketers that subscribe to it.

    were sent in clear text

    error was discovered, the transport agency merely thought of sending a new list in another email, asking the subscribers to delete the old list

    every conceivable top secret database: fighter pilots, SEAL team operators, police suspects, people under witness relocation.

    One of the multiple questions coming to my mind after reading all this is: why are so different types of top-level secret information of a country being stored in the same database?!

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    1. Re:Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 2

      Logically, with "being stored in the same database" I meant being managed together (1 database or 1000 doesn't matter).

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    2. Re: Seriously? by Pros_n_Cons · · Score: 1

      My first thought as well. This is a warning to how much info government should have.
      Im surprised hospital and psychiatric records arent available.

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    3. Re: Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this sarcasm or a serious query? We really need you to explain your queries in detail.

    4. Re: Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      Wow! An AC referring to ideas written in a different thread! I am becoming a-tiny-bit-more-than-nothing in Slashdot! Hooray! LOL (-> this is joking). The previous message was serious: having everything in one database would be really stupid, but not much more stupider than having everything in 1000 databases and zipping all of them together.

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    5. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they heard the term net neutrality, and being Neutral they figured it meant not discriminating against any content. So top secret data, citizen private data, public infrastructure data... all must be together under Swedish Net Neutrality.

      "What makes a man turn neutral ... Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

      My question would be "HOLY FRIKKIN JEEBUS WHY IS THEIR GOVERNMENT SELLING THEIR DATA TO MARKETERS?!?!?!?!?!" or even giving it away for free?

    6. Re: Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      I personally think that some of the released information like the one of people under witness relocation programs seems much more delicate than medical records.

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    7. Re:Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      SELLING THEIR DATA TO MARKETERS

      Good one too. Just the word "marketers" makes the whole thing even weirder.

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    8. Re: Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      stupider

      Do you know what databases are for? To centrally locate, manage, and access vast quantities of relational information. If a citizen has a name, that name is linked with everything. Tax records, vehicle registration, legal status, military career, everything. As such, every government does this. That is the nature of tracing citizens.

      You might as well complain about the laws of physics and thermodynamics being linked.

    9. Re: Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am not entirely certain that you understand the concept of linked databases (this is not sarcasm FYI). I think you might have an A+ certification and are talking out of your ass! But maybe it was sarcasm?

    10. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My question would be "HOLY FRIKKIN JEEBUS WHY IS THEIR GOVERNMENT SELLING THEIR DATA TO MARKETERS?!?!?!?!?!"

      That is unfortunately not unusual. German authorities do the same. Of course they are largely exempt from privacy laws and every citizen is required by law to register his/her data.

    11. Re: Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      You are clearly misunderstanding my point. One thing is inter-relating databases stored in different locations and under different access conditions. A different story is having all databases in the same location. A database is basically a bunch of files; it doesn't really matter if you have 1 database (= 1 bunch of files) or 1000 databases (1000 bunches of files) if you are storing all of them in the same location (= zipped and sent to whoever).

      The much more logical setup is having different databases in different locations under different credentials and privileges. One application/person can query all of them (= connecting remotely to different places by sending different credentials and passing through different validation processes), but no file/computer/person should be able to access (or send them by email!) all the information of all the databases at once.

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    12. Re: Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      No, it wasn't sarcasm. It was you misunderstanding my point. I have written the not-as-evident-as-I-thought clarification explaining the difference between having all your data in the same location and in different locations/with different types of access in a comment above.

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    13. Re: Seriously? by Altrag · · Score: 1

      There's benefits to having everything in one place in terms of performance and data deduplication.. for example, if they had military and driving and health records in three different databases -- that means 3 different copies of a person's name and likely 3 different copies of their address and other "standard" information. That means 3 places it can be screwed up by a clerk mistyping or whatever, and 3 places that need to be updated whenever a person moves or changes their name (direct name changes aren't super common but marriage is..) or whatever else.

      Now I'm assuming their database does have a very detailed credentials system -- they're not going to let some low level clerk at Sweden's DMV equivalent have access to data about their military's secret units or anything dumb like that.

      But even if they had their databases separated, this would still be a colossal screwup. I can't even begin to imagine the sequence of events that would let a government organization, with all of its bureaucracy and paperwork and double and triple and quintuple checks, manage to release even a small database to a private corporation's cloud services with zero encryption. It just boggles the mind at how many things would have had to go wrong for this to happen.

    14. Re:Seriously? by e5150 · · Score: 1

      Well, the vehicle ownership is a matter of public record. I don't know what (if at all) they charge for the database in electronic form. My understanding from the swedish reporting is that the database that was e-mailed did not contain top secred data or anything national security sensitive. Just that they accidentally sent out the internal database, with actual names and other personal data on people with protected identities (e.g. witness protection).
      The outsourcing of all kinds of secret data is a shitstorm of incompetence of its own.

    15. Re:Seriously? by Kjella · · Score: 2

      Well the database wouldn't have information about "fighter pilots, SEAL team operators, police suspects, people under witness relocation" but it would have information about people who happen to be those sorts of things. The Scandinavian countries and quite a few other European countries all have a unique "person ID" which essentially an SSN on steroids. Pretty much any official service or registry that needs to identify you uses that number, so does the bank (no anonymous accounts), the phone company (no anonymous burner phones), your job (because they deduct income taxes directly to the government) and so on.

      The basic information is kept in a single place, they're probably close to what a census agency would be in the US. The random public can't query it, but quite a few private and public institutions can. Some people are far more restricted though, but if you have a legitimate need you can get access. Here in Norway not to absolutely everyone - the most heavily guarded access level is kept by the registry itself and everyone else needs to contact those people via a re-mailer, but I guess in Sweden they can get everyone if they have a need. And apparently they thought their version of the DMV had that need and since most adults have a driver's license...

      Presumably this should be some kind of anonymous result like:
      SELECT age, sex
      INTO ExportDB..Statistics
      FROM DriversLicenses

      and somebody massively fucked up and did a:
      SELECT *
      INTO ExportDB..Statistics
      FROM DriversLicenses

      Sweden only got a population of about 10 million, say 2 million are underage and another million don't have one so maybe 7 million records. With lots of common street names, first and last names with compression I suppose getting it down to email size is doable. So if you have a list of person IDs that are interesting and you want to know where they live, this is great. If you want to find out if they're interesting and why, it's probably not that useful. Unless they got the security level too, that'd narrow it down to just the special ones just like that. Not why they're restricted of course, but searching for the names you'd probably get a hint...

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    16. Re:Seriously? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      why are so different types of top-level secret information of a country being stored in the same database?!

      I guess it may have been multiple databases but under their control. As for why all of it under their control: Efficency/savings I guess.

    17. Re: Seriously? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Here's some of the excuses:
      http://www.expressen.se/nyhete...
      Google translate will do a good work of it.

    18. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The answer to your question: It was not. The article is garbage. It is mixing two different incidents. One ACTUAL leak, of a limited subset of data. One POTENTIAL leak since IBM staff was not properly background checked before being given access to the 1000+ servers owned by this agency. There is no (public) evidence that any data ended up in the wrong hands.

      Your quotes #2, #3, #4 were related to the first incident, while #1 and #5 was related to the second incident.

    19. Re: Seriously? by F.Ultra · · Score: 2

      They have no information on people on the witness protection program. But they have the drivers license database, and people in witness protection have drivers licenses so they are in there. So if you are looking for one of them you can search through the pictures until you find who you are looking for which is the problem.

    20. Re:Seriously? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      It is entirely possible to buy a phone and a pay-as-you-go SIM using cash in Sweden. I did so when I first came here, when I as yet had no personal number.

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    21. Re: Seriously? by rtb61 · · Score: 1
      Yah and if you have a boo boo you vant tha boo boo to expose all your bits. Why seperate data bases and seperate data stores becaue fuck corporate profits and out sourcing to one corporations that pays the biggest bribes. If does not need, absolutely need it, do not connect it, not the the internet or to each other. Want it really secure, pay attention to the Russians for a change, all fucking manual with typewriters and filing cabinets, direct physical access required.

      Sweden has become such a US corporate suck up, it's must be getting really embarrassing for the Swedes and when it comes to the growing number of militant Muslims and African street kids, well, that's anybody's guess. The current Swedish government just seem to be totally out of control.

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    22. Re: Seriously? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      It could be some EU law about how never to connect names, date of birth and other data within a gov.
      Privacy protections on existing databases?

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    23. Re: Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      There's benefits to having everything in one place in terms of performance and data deduplication

      This is evident. There are always trade-offs between security and speed or ease-of-use or similar; usually, you prefer to rely on an acceptably-secure option and mainly focus on high usability and speed. But we are talking about national top-secret information!!

      My almost intuitive thoughts on the top-secret-info front have always been something on the lines of: just one authority managing the given source of delicate information with a single main database; this authority should take care of all the actions ensuring the security and reliable/quick access to said source of information; all the remaining authorities would have to go through the corresponding steps/clearance process to get access to that information; etc.

      Fictitious example: agency for jails taking care of adequately securing, backuping, dividing, etc. all information of the information of this kind. It sets up a centralised database with all the main records (e.g., basic information for all the inmates as the one being leaked here) and enables different types of access to it on account of different factors. Any other agency wanting to get information about jails would have to connect to that database (+ request permission to that agency). No local copies should be allowed. All the accesses should be adequately tracked. That agency will be the sole responsible for anything happening to that data.

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    24. Re:Seriously? by Flu · · Score: 1

      One of the multiple questions coming to my mind after reading all this is: why are so different types of top-level secret information of a country being stored in the same database?!

      Because of incompetence.

      The database didn't contain any marking of who's identities, military viecles and whereabouts where classified, or at least it was't removed prior to mailing. The top secret information of the infrastructure etc, are probably actually stored in a different, infrastructure-related database, but from a news point of view, that was never mentioned since it is of no importance how many different databases were leaked.

    25. Re: Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      Why seperate data bases and seperate data stores becaue

      It doesn't seem that you are answering questions raised even implicitly by any of my comments; apparently, you are just answering the non-existent meanings which your evident unwillingness to adequately understand has misinterpreted from my words. So, you aren't exactly talking to me but to the meanings your make up (= to yourself). Sorry for interfering in your conversation, but I think that you both (you and you) need some clarifications.

      All what I said was that, by assuming that you already have everything together (e.g., dump of all the databases or immediate access to all of them), the exact internal structure of your physical format wouldn't really matter. It should be evident to almost everyone (although well... I am systematically re-defining the evident-to-everyone concept) that having just one file (or one database) is clearly less secure than having many files (databases). But that difference becomes extremely irrelevant when you put everything together, because the time requirements/security associated with accessing 1 or 1000 files/databases don't matter much. I am not saying that creating more databases is a bad idea, but that the positive effect of such an action would pretty much disappear when putting everything in the same place (+ immediately accessible by the same person).

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    26. Re: Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      I cannot understand Swedish and online translators tend to do a quite bad job when dealing with somehow complex information. Are you able/willing to write a short summary?

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    27. Re: Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      I am not sure about the usual policies of most of European countries (+ EU directives) about basic personal information (e.g., person xyz + photo). On the other hand, it seems evident that the public release of certain data (e.g., person xyz being in a protection program and living wherever) should be highly restricted in almost any country.

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    28. Re: Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      They have no information on people on the witness protection program. But they have the drivers license database, and people in witness protection have drivers licenses

      Even by assuming that there is no clear indication about the fact of the given person being in a witness protection program, it seems pretty delicate stuff. One of the basic actions associated with dealing with a subset of highly protected individuals/data sources is to remove them from the common data sources/classifications. In any case, the linked article might be intentionally increasing its clickbaitness by implying issues (e.g., express mention of the given person being in a witness protection program) which might not be true.

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    29. Re:Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      It is entirely possible that the linked article unnecessarily blew everything out of proportion and relied on quite a few misinterpretation-prone expressions. I am not a Swede and cannot understand Swedish, that's why all my comments were written on the basic assumption that the provided information was right. What you are describing seems to provide a much more sensible context than what some parts of the article were implying.

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    30. Re:Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info. Quite a few people here seems to be complaining about the low quality of the information in the linked article, but nobody is proposing a reliable enough alternative in English. I and most of people in this site cannot understand Swedish.

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    31. Re:Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      that was never mentioned since it is of no importance how many different databases were leaked.

      You mean different databases + in different locations + with different access levels, I presume. Many people here is complaining about the numerous problems in the information of the linked article, but nobody is providing a reliable enough alternative in English!

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    32. Re:Seriously? by jandersen · · Score: 1

      One of the multiple questions coming to my mind after reading all this is: why are so different types of top-level secret information of a country being stored in the same database?

      I'd say that chances are that they were not considered top-secret. Data that allows you to identify a person and find their address etc are generally not, even if it important to to the individual that the data are kept secret. Top-secret normally means that secrecy is important for the security of the nation.

      Another question worht asking is: how can you fit an entire database into an email? If it contains photos of several million people, it is going to be large. It doesn't sound plausible to me.

    33. Re:Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      were not considered top-secret

      The linked article (by assuming that it is accurate, because many people here are saying that it is very misleading) talks about various issues which are certainly top-secret like names/addresses of people in witness protection/considered by police as classified or detailed information about military vehicles.

      how can you fit an entire database into an email?

      Emailing a database sounds actually kind of weird and using an expression like mailing records of a database would have been better. In any case, mailing a whole database is quite straightforward (by assuming that the given email client can deal with that size): you can dump all the database contents to a file and add these contents directly to the email body or via attachment. You might even email all the files associated with the given database; although this would be a pretty dumb approach, as far as the whole point of having a database (management software) is to precisely ease certain actions like easily exporting/importing data.

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    34. Re:Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      As said above and by assuming that the provided information is accurate enough (what isn't too clear at this point), there is no excuse for seriously compromising the safety of very delicate information other than incompetence. When dealing with security and with virtually anything else, you have to bear in mind a trade-off (many of them, actually); converting security in your top priority (-> the case with classified information) is most likely associated with speed and usability restrictions, but you would have to accept that. If your work was securing certain information no matter what and you allowed a breach because of wanting to make the user experience slightly better, you would have failed completely.

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    35. Re:Seriously? by jandersen · · Score: 1

      The linked article (by assuming that it is accurate, because many people here are saying that it is very misleading) talks about various issues which are certainly top-secret like names/addresses of people in witness protection/considered by police as classified or detailed information about military vehicles.

      I think you are using the term 'top-secret' in a different meaning than mine (which is not to imply that mine is right) - top-secret is usually reserved for state secrets, not for information like this, however important it may be for the individuals. Information about individuals under witness protection doesn't have the potential to compromise the security of the state, normally.

      In any case, mailing a whole database is quite straightforward...

      The point I was trying to get across was that almost any database you can think of is likely to be big - several GB, certainly if it contains large numbers of images. Mailing a whole database of that size is not something you would do by mistake - you would have plenty of opportunity to stop it, since the sending would take a while, I'd think. Plus, of course, almost any mail server sets a fairly low limit on the size of attachments.

    36. Re:Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      top-secret is usually reserved for state secrets

      You are certainly right. I was using the expression pretty informally, by meaning highly classified information.

      The point I was trying to get across was that almost any database you can think of is likely to be big - several GB, certainly if it contains large numbers of images The images might be a problem, but just the kind of referred information might be stored in a relatively small size. By bearing in mind that Sweden is a pretty small country, storing all the text for the "delicate bits" (e.g., witness protection programs, classified by police, classified by army, etc.) shouldn't required a big size and seems easily "emailable". In something like 1 million rows and 10 columns you might store a lot and this doesn't occupy too much.

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    37. Re:Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      Related (kid-of-jokish) complaint: why is Slashdot locating the Preview and Submit buttons in exactly the same position? Some times, the site might respond a bit slower, you might want to just preview your first draft and, with a second click (because the first one didn't seem to go through), might submit it by accident!

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    38. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The transport agency then emailed the entire database in messages to marketers that subscribe to it.

      Wait, wut? so the news here is, "people might have gotten the private secret personal data without paying for it"? If they're already selling it to marketers, it's not "private" by any reasonable definition.

    39. Re: Seriously? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      No, because I haven't read it myself.
      But Swedish to English is auto-translated pretty fine:

      Maria Ã...gren in interrogation: "Thought you should do that"
      published 22 Jul 2017 at 21.15
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      Maria Ã...gren made a brilliant office of civil servants - who has now scratched.
      She was a record first woman in a series of Director-General positions before becoming Chief Executive Officer of the Transport Agency, the position that became her case.
      "I thought you should do that" and "I did as good as I could" is her argument in police hearings, a line of defense that does not convince SÃpo or the government.
      advertisement:
      Everything went on for Maria Ã...gren, the civil engineer from GÃllivare, who became the highest director of several central Swedish authorities. At the age of 40 she was appointed Director General at the National Geotechnical Institute, and after that she quickly became DG at SMHI, the Swedish Environmental Protection Agency and finally the Transport Agency.
      At each appointment, it was pointed out that she was the first woman in the high post. And as late as last year, Luleå University of Technology expressed its pride in the former student by appointing her the "Alumni of the Year".
      But this year, everything fell for Maria Ã...gren. In January, she was transferred from her service to the Transport Agency, in June, she was sentenced to SEK 70,000 in daily fines and in July the government decided to resign as Director General at the Government Offices. This because she had cleared confidential information by outsourcing the Transport Agency's IT operations externally, despite warnings from SÃpo.
      "Gross negligence"
      The prosecutor believes that she acted with "serious care" and that IT leaks could threaten the security of the country.
      In a hearing of March 2, 2017, Maria Ã...gren will be able to respond to the serious allegations. The hearing starts at 10:10 pm at the Security Office's premises in Solna.
      READ MORE: Ygeman called for the Justice Committee
      In one hour and 28 minutes, the Director-General - who is in the role of "suspected" - is grilled by the detective inspector 2217 and police inspector 1101 from SÃpo. Her lawyer Percy Bratt and prosecutor Mats Ljungqvist are also present. Everything according to the preliminary investigation.
      Maria Ã...gren's line of defense is that the "departure from current legislation", which she approved, was acceptable and "that you had made a departure decision earlier and that it was part of a routine that you could take when needed".
      It is thus the departure that SÃpo warned her for, which meant that IBM's IT technicians in the Czech Republic, Romania, Serbia and other countries were allowed to handle the Data Protection Agency's Transport Agency without first reviewing security controls as required by law.
      "Did not get any information"
      Maria Ã...gren thinks she did the best she could:
      "Maria believes that, on the basis of her prerequisites, she has taken a lot of responsibility regarding security issues. She had no knowledge of this when she took up her duties. She received no information from either SÃpo or the government about what was within the organization. She did the best she could after the conditions she had. "
      READ MORE: The Transport Agency punished employees who were alerted
      At the hearing she is asked if she thinks she could have done something different now when she sees how it has happened. She answers that "is difficult because you can not ask for things you do not know" :
      "At the hand of the former director-general, she assumed everything was in order. The same was true when she met her security officer. She assumed he could and did his job."
      At an early stage of the Transport Agency's outsourcing of data services, SÃpo believed and sent a letter of warning on November 25, 2015. SÃpo recommended "immediate security measures". But Maria Ã...gren and her coworkers

    40. Re: Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Am I correct, is an elephant cemetery the same as administrative leave?

    41. Re: Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://gizmodo.com/sweden-leaks-the-personal-information-of-millions-of-it-1797208092

    42. Re: Seriously? by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      Well for starters our witness protection program is quite small, we don't have that large amount of organized crime as some countries and due to the small size and population most of the people in the program is sent to other countries, but even so since even people in the program needs drivers licenses and passports they are in the system, albeit under their new name, but that is just how things work over here with our national id. Without a national id you cannot do shit here (you cannot work, you cannot even lend books at a library) so they must be in the system in order to be able to function.

      Normally this is not a problem since all the people handing this data is under the scrutiny of the security police (SÄPO) and need to have their security clearances renewed constantly so the there is a slim chance of the data getting into the wrong hands (of course the systems is not perfect) but when they outsourced the whole IT operations to IBM, IBM send the whole shit to their teams in eastern Europe, i.e not only to foreigners but also to people without security clearance.

      But that is the second issue, the first issue was that the people in the witness program had a label on their entry in the database that marked them as non-public and there where an isolated incident where the agency sent out their details to marketers by mistake and then when they discovered their mistake they emailed out "oh please forget peoples a,b and c that you received earlier". While the initial incident was the leak they gave people an exact list of everyone on the witness protection program in their attempt to clean up their mess... Since this agency also handles new car registrations they have an e-mail service where people and companies can subscribe to changes (the car ownership database is public records and you can lookup ever car on their website at https://fu-regnr.transportstyr...)

    43. Re: Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      database that marked them as non-public

      All this thing of being inside the system with new identities (new names, ids, driver licenses, etc., I understand) seems fine; it is even ideal, as far as the underlying idea is precisely to make everything look as normal as possible. But having a mark, any mark, in all the references to that person seems problematic. I think that it would be much better to store their information as normal citizens at all the levels (this would also minimise the number of departments/people knowing about so delicate stuff); and to only bring their peculiar status into picture when strictly required (e.g., database with information about protected individuals which is only checked under very specific circumstances).

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    44. Re: Seriously? by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      Since the database is public, criminals could use it to find the home address of police officers if there where no flag that would refuse to answer that lookup. Same for foreign agencies trying to map out the home address of all military officers (and we have already our hands full of the so called Polish Painter salesmen doing just that [one of the risks of living so near Russia]).

    45. Re: Seriously? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      My point was: you should either not include special records in the main database or include all of them without any kind of flag. In any of these scenarios, you should have a specific non-public database to be queried only under very specific conditions. Including any kind of clear distinction among entries implies lots of risks and even defeating the whole purpose of the protection.

      Imagine that you have three people A, B and C, where C is a marked person (for whatever reason; you might even have complex marking system accounting for any possible status like secret service, military, royal family, etc.). You can store all the information of these 3 persons everywhere as if they were normal citizens. You will also have a last-moment check in certain situations which will only return OK/not (= the given department wouldn't even know the reason for the go ahead/denial). All the information about A, B and C might be publish anywhere without any problem. These three persons will also go through exactly the same steps while performing virtually any action; from the point of view of most of systems, they will be normal citizens. But, in situations like a system determining whether a citizen can run for public office, one last check (= remotely querying to the database including all the information about special status, restrictions and incompatibilities) would avoid C to go though.

      Do you get my idea? The whole point is to divide the information and to set as many access restrictions for classified bits as possible. Just one flag (even an unlabelled integer telling the status of that person) in a common database might be problematic from the security point of view and would certainly imply a breach of the classified-information status, even despite storing all the relevant information in a very secure database.

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    46. Re: Seriously? by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      Yes I hear you, I guess that this whole database where created way before we even had protected citizens so it was kind of slapped on top in order to not have to rebuild the entire dependency chain (witness protection is quite new here and even the concept of hidden personal details for police and military is not more than a few decades old). After all this is a country where the previous King used to make daily runs in a public park in Stockholm without any form of escort or protection.

  6. Everybody in Sweden!!!....fast... by martiniturbide · · Score: 3, Interesting

    switch cars with your neighbors.

    1. Re:Everybody in Sweden!!!....fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And pee in your butts!

    2. Re:Everybody in Sweden!!!....fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why?
      In the world we live in other governments aren't necessary the enemy of the people, it is your own government and they already had the information.

    3. Re:Everybody in Sweden!!!....fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason why is: So that way when you get into an accident, your insurance company won't cover you. Obviously.

    4. Re:Everybody in Sweden!!!....fast... by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      --GMTA :) Although I was thinking "houses"... ;-)

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  7. Nice by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    Russian spies just got accepted their requests for a couple of years of sabbatical, because there's no more work to do.

    1. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Putin is the penultimate pussy crusher.

  8. Marketers subscribe by tigersha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > ..the transport agency then emailed the entire database in messages to marketers that subscribe to it.

    This sentence makes no sense. What did the marketers subscribe to? The top secret database??!! This must have been quite a large database, I doubt that you can attach and mail it. Who mailed what to whom?

    The whole article reads like something Google translate did on a day when the server was drunk or half asleep.

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    1. Re:Marketers subscribe by Aristos+Mazer · · Score: 1

      I think the problem -- in this case -- may not be with the journalist but with the excuses the government is providing.

    2. Re:Marketers subscribe by e5150 · · Score: 1

      They subscribed to what should have been the non-secret public database of vehicle ownership (used to target ads to owners of a particular brand of car, issuing parking tickets to registered owners, etc.) Transportstyrelsen e-mailed the unredacted (including true identity of car owners with "skyddad identitet" - protected identity) excel document to whomever subscribed to the vehicle registry.
      http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sveri...

    3. Re:Marketers subscribe by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I assume it was linked to the shared data? Or something. Whatever.

      Very competent.

      The director-general of the organisation admitted she had done it/wrong and got a 40 days of fines whatever that's called in the US / English. 70,000 SEK = $8,500. So now it's all been covered! ..

    4. Re:Marketers subscribe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it's a "strafföreläggande", same as accepting a speeding ticket. This protects her from further punishments and that's why she was given this option. Except, "strafföreläggande" is only legal for small crimes with no possibility of jail time, such as speeding, minor littering, peeing in public, committing high treason...

    5. Re:Marketers subscribe by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's a "straffÃrelÃggande", same as accepting a speeding ticket. This protects her from further punishments and that's why she was given this option. Except, "straffÃrelÃggande" is only legal for small crimes with no possibility of jail time, such as speeding, minor littering, peeing in public, committing high treason...

      Well.
      It's good to know leaking secret information important for the safety of the country is much less of a problem than saying "I think it's crazy to let in all these Muslims" ;D or "I don't want to pay for all these noggers!" .. "they are ruining my our culture and people! They shouldn't be here!"

    6. Re:Marketers subscribe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The whole article reads like something Google translate did on a day when the server was drunk or half asleep.

      Um, the server is *always* drunk or half asleep with Google Translate. If you think otherwise, you've never really used GT.

  9. Open Society by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's wide open there. And slightly windy as well. But not windy enough for the responsible people to care.

  10. What's happening to Sweden? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    For as long as I could remember, Sweden was portrayed as one of the best places to live, and one of the most capable of nations. It had prosperity, almost non-existent crime, and despite having a relatively small population it punched far above its weight in many scientific, technological and artistic fields.

    When the name "Sweden" appeared in a news article's headline, chances are whatever the article was focusing on was going to be extremely positive.

    But that has all changed.

    Now the name "Sweden" has become associated with "no-go zones" like the Rinkeby district and the Husby district, a huge increase in grenade attacks, the 2013 Stockholm riots, and the 7 April 2017 truck attack in Stockholm.

    Now there is this incident.

    What's happening to Sweden? Is it a prime example of what happens when political and social leftism runs rampant, destroying the institutions and culture of a nation? Is what's happening in Sweden the fate of any nation that brings in people from the worst of the worst third-world nations?

    1. Re: What's happening to Sweden? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grenade attacks? You say that like it's something every country has just a bit of!

    2. Re:What's happening to Sweden? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From YOUR LINK:
      "The Swedish government states that "no-go zones" do not exist in Sweden.[43][44] Nevertheless, others, both within the country and outside it, have alleged that such areas exist.[who?]"
      Notice the "WHO?" at the end of the sentence. CITATION F*CKING NEEDED,
      THERE ARE NO, ZERO, NADA, NOLL, INGA, INTE EN JÄVLA EN NO-GO ZONES IN SWEDEN. Stop spreading your lies.

    3. Re:What's happening to Sweden? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Google it, dipshit. There was even a cop who came forward about it and was immediately attacked by their cuck-filled, globalist-infiltrated government and leftist stooges who didn't like their lies being exposed.

    4. Re: What's happening to Sweden? by F.Ultra · · Score: 0

      No that is not what happened at all. There exists zero no-go zones in Sweden.

    5. Re:What's happening to Sweden? by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 0

      cuck-filled

      Stopped reading. That doesn't fly in polite society. I would encourage you to correct your own behavior.

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    6. Re: What's happening to Sweden? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Islam happened to Sweden.

    7. Re:What's happening to Sweden? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rasist fånen hittades.

      (Found the racist moron.)

    8. Re:What's happening to Sweden? by smallfries · · Score: 2

      I always wondered what the GNAA trolls would do when they grew older. So this is what you've sunk to.

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    9. Re:What's happening to Sweden? by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Did all your 4chan bros kill themselves or something? Why are you here? ;)

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    10. Re: What's happening to Sweden? by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Tell that to Tim Pool, because he experienced them first hand. Don't know who he is? He's an independent journalist that flies all over the place to where the stories are. The most recent case where a german journalist decided to dox him, and then handed all of his info to a german antifa group who then tried to attack him and another group of independent journalists.

      There were "friends" who told him not to report on those no-go zones because they didn't want him to for ideological reasons. They want to maintain the "happy migrant picture" while burying their head in the sand over the violence, sexual assaults and rape. Others(everything from leftwing groups that support unrestricted migration to antifascist groups) that threatened him to not report on it. You can dig through his twitter feed if you want the names of the people who threatened him to not report on those areas. Yes they do exist, and yes the media is lying to you about them "not really existing."

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    11. Re: What's happening to Sweden? by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      Yeah because no journalist ever have any form of agenda right? The problem here is that I'm a white native Swede and I have been to this areas while also having several police officers in the family. Of course I'm just a anonymous person on the Internet but I can assure you that there exists no such thing as a no-go zone in Sweden, the very second some one would kill a police officer here they would find themselves fucked royally, the police outguns the criminals to almost infinity, this is not the US where everyone and their uncle have a gun.

    12. Re: What's happening to Sweden? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Sure explains why there's two commonalities between Sweden and the Philippines doesn't it? Both have grenade attacks against churches.

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    13. Re: What's happening to Sweden? by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      Which grenade attacks against churches in Sweden?

  11. Need more power ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because More Power = Bigger SNAFUs.

  12. I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone for this.

    1. Re:I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by Spy+Handler · · Score: 1

      Why would you sue or jail IBM when it was the government agency itself that uploaded the database to a cloud server and then emailed it? It's in the fucking summary.

    2. Re:I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. In the best of Swedish traditions the one responsible for quite possibly the worst known leak of secret information ever, deeds of actual foreign agents included, was fired from her job and fined about a months pay or so.

      I have to add though that it's so ridiculously lenient it smells like she's used as the fall guy. There has to be more to the story than meets the eye.

    3. Re:I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone for this.

      Well, at-least the director general got a $8,500 fine.

      With great.. salary comes.. wait.. I know this one.. a larger parachute?

    4. Re:I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by aliquis · · Score: 1

      By the way, did you know our prime-minister earn 2 million SEK / year?

      Almost twice of what Putin earn, bit above half of your president but you're a nation of ~33 times more people and well, I guess one could say you'd got competent leaders with authority and responsibility then again with the last guy I know some of you won't agree =P

      Anyway, imagine having Putin as president for half the money!!
      That's what dreams are made of:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      And this:
      https://www.facebook.com/firef...

    5. Re:I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's tough being funny in a foreign language.

    6. Re:I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The general even got a raise WHILE BEING INVESTIGATED.
      http://www.expressen.se/dinapengar/maria-agren-fick-hojd-lon-samtidigt-som-hon-utreddes/

    7. Re:I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by Flu · · Score: 1

      I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone for this.

      It was Transportstyrelsen that simply pushed the timeline so they didn't have time to vet the persons with access to the database at IBM for security clearance. And I guess the IBM folks weren't informed that the database contained top secret information - because the officials at Transportstyrelsen didn't know that in the first place!

    8. Re:I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hardly surprising. Left hand, right hand.

    9. Re:I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Well, our police-chief who aren't a police, prefer dialogue and socialism over catching criminals, before being the chief of the police he was the leader of the Migration office and the "Insurance" office (not the last resort welfare stuff but the welfare stuff you collect when you're sick or have a kid or to help pay for your apartment and such.) .. they aren't the most trusted and popular of the government ran places and now he's totally managed to screw the police up too.

      But he's still on the job. Because Social-democrats.

      The previous "looks like the best prime-minister candidate" of the social-democrats Ygeman had complete garbage history too. I don't remember it now but it included not paying for where he lived(?), lots of late payments but other shit too. Don't remember if it was that his educational background was junk or his jobs or whatever, it was basically all junk anyway.

      Our current prime-minister is a social-democrat and he's a compulsive liar and his background is the metal union and .. the social-democrats / their youth organisation. The one they had as leader before that was so shitty he had to go, the one before that is both shitty but also have had lots of unpaid parking tickets, bought private stuff on the account she should use for her job but a lot of other shit too. But I'm too lazy to watch a YouTube video of it all and I don't remember it all. But they are all complete garbage. And those are still supposed to be the elite of the social-democrats I guess..

      Picture of the police-chief: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_...
      Picture of the prime-minister:
      http://www.regeringen.se/conte...

      You can kinda see how little goes on in them ..

      I haven't even taken the worst pictures!
      https://cdn.quizme.se/quiz/b1a...
      https://y.cdn-expressen.se/ima...
      https://z.cdn-expressen.se/ima...
      http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7S4y...
      https://w.cdn-expressen.se/ima... :D

      Ygeman looks functional:
      https://y.cdn-expressen.se/ima...
      But clearly looks wasn't everything.
      We should had learned that after Fredrik Reinfeldt (former prime-minister, Moderates):
      https://upload.wikimedia.org/w...

      He didn't looked all that retarded. He aren't either. But he drowned us in Muslims and Africans and sold out public property way too cheap.

    10. Re:I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fredrik Reinfeldt looks moderately puppy-cute. The thought came to my mind right before I saw your line that he's a Moderate.

      And his government didn't help out SAAB cars, because free business etc., but that might have been some stupid EU rule about government aid to [ailing, but important] businesses :-(

      There should be some exceptions to a ban on government aid to help ailing, but important businesses (manufacturing, infrastructure).

      P.S.
      There were some businesses in Estonia that supplied parts to SAAB cars. I don't know what their current status is, despite SAAB now making electric cars under Chinese ownership (of BYD, I think).

      And I'm appalled, that Sweden's competition office allowed the sale of Volvo cars to a Chinese company.

    11. Re:I hope they can sue IBM / jail someone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to add though that it's so ridiculously lenient it smells like she's used as the fall guy. There has to be more to the story than meets the eye.

      This. Barring quid pro quo, nepotism, favoritism, and simple incompetence. (there's a post downthread, that it was advanced incompetence)

      I hope that the investigation is still going on to find out what really caused such a massive leak. At the very best, it could be deep incompetence coupled with massive egos and vast failures in communication. At all levels.

  13. Shouldn't matter to Swedes, since... by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Funny this, yesterday, we were discussing the Norwegian story about how everybody has access to everyone else's income, and it's no big deal, since they have a sense of community & everyone trusts each other. Now, I know that Sweden is not Norway, but culturally, from what I understand, very similar. In which case, this accidental leak should be no issue at all, since all Scandinavians are perfectly honest people who wouldn't dream of even SCANNING other people's personal data, let alone steal from them, just b'cos they can. So this story is essentially much ado about nothing

    1. Re:Shouldn't matter to Swedes, since... by uffe_nordholm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You are right in that Sweden and Norway are culturally very similar. But I think you are wrong about this leak.

      If the rest of the world can see details about every single driving licence ever issued in Sweden, I see no real harm. But this leak has (at least potentially) exposed things like which vehicles the secret army units have (and how many of them), who the Swedish combat pilots are and where they live, which roads and bridges can support which vehicle types (good to know when invading a country, so the road you drive on doesn't suddenly collapse under the load).

      Apart from a lot more discussion than is normal about a political issue in Sweden, the only real thing that has happened is that the director responsible for this has been fired and fined some three weeks worth of wages. My personal opinion is that she should have been tossed in prison and left to rot there, this leak may have damaged Sweden much more than all spies that have ever operated in Sweden in the past.

      My sources: a lot of reports in Swedish media.
      Full disclosure: I live in Sweden and am a Swedish native.

    2. Re:Shouldn't matter to Swedes, since... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem isn't really most of the information. It is that it contained information about people with protected identity.
      Since third parties probably don't care about keeping the information secret that means that abusive ex-spouses now might be able to find out where their victims are living among other things.

    3. Re:Shouldn't matter to Swedes, since... by Keith_Beef · · Score: 1

      which roads and bridges can support which vehicle types (good to know when invading a country, so the road you drive on doesn't suddenly collapse under the load).

      This leads me to suspect that the weight limits posted on bridges, even allowing for some safety margin, are probably much lower than true capacity. By this, I mean that a small bridge marked "Weight limit 15,000 kg" might be able to support a 48,000 kg -14 .

      Maybe we will see teams of structural engineers armed with angle grinders weakening bridges by random amounts over the next couple of years, so that Putin won't be able to make quite so much use out of his newly acquired data.

    4. Re:Shouldn't matter to Swedes, since... by Keith_Beef · · Score: 1

      Should have read "a 48,000 kg T-14 Armata" in Cyrillic letters, but I didn't notice that they had been stripped.

    5. Re:Shouldn't matter to Swedes, since... by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Sweden has a military? Who are they defending against? I can see how it might have been useful in WWII or in the Thirty Years War, but today, much of Europe is demilitarized, and only 4 European countries (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus not included) pay 2% or more of their GDP on defense. Sweden's neighbors are Finland, Norway, and Denmark. None of those countries have plans to invade Sweden. Or do they?

    6. Re:Shouldn't matter to Swedes, since... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sweden has a military? Who are they defending against?

      Everybody. Sweden is an aggresively neutral country, not unlike Switzerland. Like the latter, they take the integrity of their borders seriously.

    7. Re:Shouldn't matter to Swedes, since... by uffe_nordholm · · Score: 1

      For me as a Swede, it is utterly inconceivable that there would be war between Sweden and any of our immediate neighbours. Unfortunately the same can not be said about Russia: although we don't share a land border, we do have the Baltic Sea as a common body of water. Russia could launch an invasion from St Petersburg or the Kaliningrad enclave. Considering the amount of Russian *cough*volunteers*cough* that have taken time out of their regular army jobs to help in the Donbass conflict, I don't think Sweden has a large enough defence.

      I think if Russia were to invade Sweden, the likely target would be Gotland: it is ideally placed in the southern Baltic sea so you can use it for placing air defence and aiplanes. With control over Gotland and it's airspace you can easily control the airspace over the Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania), who are all members of NATO.

    8. Re:Shouldn't matter to Swedes, since... by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Russia hardly has much of an outlet into the Baltic: the Soviet Union did, but Russia doesn't. Just St Petersburg & its surrounding areas upto the border w/ Estonia. Also, before it would get to Sweden, it would have to take out not just the Baltic states but Finland as well.

      Does Russia have territorial conflicts w/ anybody outside the Soviet Union? Within it, there was the issue of Russians in the near abroad, but aside from that, does Russia have territorial claims on Poland, Romania, Hungary or Slovakia? And no, Syria doesn't count: they're trying to prop up a regime that would constitute a bulwark against Sunni Jihad. I disagree w/ them backing Iran & Syria, but I can see why they're doing it.

  14. Best incident response policy ever! by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

    "When the error was discovered, the transport agency merely thought of sending a new list in another email, asking the subscribers to delete the old list themselves." Hey guys, yeah, could you just ignore that last email we sent? That would be great, thanks. I'm surprised they didn't just try an Exchange "recall message". Is this their actual policy for data leaks?

    1. Re:Best incident response policy ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it is not just basic incompetence, this is advanced incompetence.
      In the old days a government worker responsible for something like this would end up in jail but that kind of accountability was removed.

    2. Re:Best incident response policy ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "When the error was discovered, the transport agency merely thought of sending a new list in another email, asking the subscribers to delete the old list themselves."

      Then you can just compare the two lists to find out what info isnt in the the second list.

  15. Sweden, eh? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Does that include chest size for the women? We need to know!

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    1. Re:Sweden, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's Sweden. They'd explode at the thought of even mentioning such a metric. They probably don't even list gender because that would be oppressive, sexist and racist.

  16. Old news? by Pascoea · · Score: 1
    Leak happened in 2015!

    Although the data breach happened in 2015, Swedish Secret Service discovered it in 2016 and started investigating the incident, which led to the fire of STA director-general Maria Ågren in January 2017.

    Holy shit. I have a hard time wrapping my head around how massive of a fuckup this is.

    Ågren was also fined half a month's pay (70,000 Swedish krona which equals to $8,500)

    Oh. Well hell, that ought to teach her.

    1. Re:Old news? by e5150 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The crime she committed ("Recklessness with secret documents") carries a maximum penalty of one year in prison (BrB 19 kap. Â9). And altough I wouldn't mind seeing her spending some time behind bars, after having read (the redacted, non-juicy, parts of) the Secret service investigastion, I wouldn't really put the blame on her.
      The whole mess started before she was appointed director of the agency, she seems to basically have been brought in and told: "Sign these documents, otherwise the outsourcing is gonna be delayed even further".
      I would like to see a lot more heads roll before this story gets filed away.

  17. No worries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't worry this only affects natural born citizens of Sweden. Immigrants have not had their personal details released.

  18. Witness relocation by Andy+Smith · · Score: 1

    Why would a transport agency have any access to witness relocation data?

    1. Re: Witness relocation by Andy+Smith · · Score: 1

      I mean witness protection.

    2. Re:Witness relocation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would a transport agency have any access to witness relocation data?

      They probably only mean that as it is a database of car owners, it contains all car owners, including people currently in witness protection programs, or government/army people, with their current address and last photo...

      There probably isn't any mention of their job or status in the database. But if you know who to look for, you could find these additional pieces of data.

    3. Re:Witness relocation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This, except, the entries for these registrations are flagged as basically "not public", which means that the owner details should not be shared outside of the agency, This flag was ignored when they generated the data for the mass e-mails that were sent.
      Bear in mind that the article is garbage and mixes two completely unrelated incidents.

    4. Re:Witness relocation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it would be even more suspicious if there was a super secret databases somewhere that special people follow alternate procedures to access.

      If you've been relocated as Homer Thompson, you get a regular driving license and register your regular car in the regular database as Homer Thompson. You don't whisper to the clerk at the DMV that actually you gotta go get your supervisor to authorise access to the Special database. You don't have a special flag on your record. Otherwise, shit like this happens.

    5. Re:Witness relocation by Flu · · Score: 1

      Why would a transport agency have any access to witness relocation data?

      Because of incompetence.

      Since the database is meant to contain information about who's got a driver's licence or own cars, they basically have contains every person's real address - including the ones in the witness protection programs, airforce pilots and others with secret identity. Problem is, the DB didn't contain markers about who's address is classified - or at least they weren't removed prior to the DB's publishing.

  19. Sweden is the height of stupidity, always. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just look at this photo showing the Stockholm telephone tower in year 1890. It had one cable going directly from a central location all the way to each household. Seriously. Not a joke: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Telefontornet_1890.jpg

  20. Inaccurate article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The piece written by the Indian bloggers is inaccurate in some parts. There's a Bleeping Computer report, which I presume the Indian bloggers inaccurately copied, from a day prior: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/biggest-data-leak-in-swedens-history-punished-with-half-a-months-paycheck/
    This piece includes links to Swedish media, where you can read more about each case.

  21. Wtf is this spin? by Kergan · · Score: 1

    The data breach exposed the names, photos and home addresses of millions of Swedish citizen, including fighter pilots of Swedish air force, members of the military's most secretive units, police suspects, people under the witness relocation program, the weight capacity of all roads and bridges, and much more.

    Oh yeah, and it also reveals the names of catholic priests, pedophiles, skull-fuckers, rapists, and community leaders. Which, as anyone knows, are all the same people. And fuck, they also reveal who knows about Area 51, alien invaders, and [enter your tinfoil here].

    In all seriousness though, wtf is the spin in TFS. It reads as if it was a national security issue, whereas TFS holds that it's about names, photos and home addresses. Not activity.

    Fuck you Slashdot editors. You're worthless.

    1. Re:Wtf is this spin? by Flu · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, and it also reveals the names of catholic priests, pedophiles, skull-fuckers, rapists, and community leaders. It reads as if it was a national security issue, whereas TFS holds that it's about names, photos and home addresses.

      Fuck you Slashdot editors. You're worthless.

      From a military standpoint, this leak IS indeed dangerous, since it basically tells any attacker what and whom (if just 30% of the fighter pilots are killed before any invasion, we're basically a sitting duck), so although I wish you weren't wrong, you are. The TFS has a lot more information than it ought to in its database, or at least, they did not remove top secret information prior to its publishing.

      The "funny" thing is that the officials confirm the database was leaked, "but any villain do not have the correct interface, so they cannot read it". Well, is not a problem for any scriptkiddie to google an appropriate extraction tools, don't you think?

  22. Wikipedia explains it better by hvidstue · · Score: 1

    Article is bullshit and bad translation. It is explained better here Transportstyrelsens IT-upphandling (in swedish, do your own translation)

    1. Re:Wikipedia explains it better by Picodon · · Score: 2

      Thanks! That sure was one sloppy /. post! Fortunately, the Swedish Wikipedia article does present a clear picture: the Swedish department of transportation outsourced its I.T. operation, which resulted in foreign technicians with (obviously) no Swedish security clearance to have complete access to a large amount of sensitive information.

      Sure, those in charge of security had opposed the outsourcing, but the leadership could not resist the lure of all that taxpayers’ money that would be saved out of the deal... Yes, at the cost of massive risks: leaks of secret information, and dependence on foreign control and foreign labour for fairly critical government services.

      This illustrates rather well the pitfalls of the cloud and outsourcing in general. I hope that the leaders of other countries (and of large corporations) are watching with interest and taking notes.

  23. IDENTITY THEFT! by Thud457 · · Score: 1
    At this rate, pretty soon, we're all going to be anonymous coward.

    Jag Ãr Brian och sa Ãr min fru!

    once again, slashdot continues to FAIL IT with unicode

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  24. emailed the _database_?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...The transport agency then emailed the entire database in messages to marketers that subscribe to it."

    Darn tiny dbase, if the entirety fits into one email.

  25. dedication porn by epine · · Score: 1

    According to coworker who is a martial arts expert, losing a pound per week is a sustainable over the long term.

    Yes, so long as you aren't simultaneously sustaining any other thing. Like a day job.

    I'm joking just a bit, but the word "sustain" is commonly abused in exactly this way.

    Weakly sustainable: when just this one thing can be sustained.

    Strongly sustainable: a member of the set such that all strongly sustainable things can be sustained at the same time without surpassing the labours of Hercules.

    Whenever someone says to me "sustainable" regarding a personal resolution, my first (usually silent) question is: have you ever given one hour notice at work, and then set foot in Tibet the very next day?

    Because, if so, that's just a steaming pile of dedication porn.

    1. Re:dedication porn by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      [...] have you ever given one hour notice at work, and then set foot in Tibet the very next day?

      As an IT Support contractor, I started a job the same day with a four-hour notice (took that long to fill out, notarized and fax the HR paperwork). That has more to do with me being a miracle worker than my weight.

    2. Re:dedication porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..."notarize" HR paperwork? Say what???

      "That has more to do with me being a miracle worker "

      Yes, the miraculous janitor that somehow isn't worth more than 50K$ a year in SILICON FUCKING VALLEY.

      Hurray.

    3. Re:dedication porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You knew right away you were a perfect fit for the job when the requirement stated "must lift 50 pounds" (of storage room crap) because your dick weighs 45 pounds.

    4. Re:dedication porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, screw the insecure idiots trying to tear you down.
      Well done for taking action, and good luck!

  26. I'll delete it ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... right after I copy it to safe harbour.

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  27. Good old IBM security at their best! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I get Sweden messed up but, dear whatever god you believe in... wtf IBM?

    I'm not surprised, most their software has hardly any security. When I was leaving they were trying to fix passwords being available in plan text in files... it was a disaster.

  28. I commented on this here: by aliquis · · Score: 1

    https://slashdot.org/comments....

    But ran into a case of communism. Anyway, my comments about the current situation of Sweden still holds:
    https://slashdot.org/comments....
    https://slashdot.org/comments....
    https://slashdot.org/comments....

    Though totally unrelated to the leak and 100% about the only party which was voting against letting foreign companies handle this information and the current threats of democracy of Sweden and so on.

  29. Well,. duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you expect when your country is run by SJWs?

  30. A year of work by the GRU down the drain by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2

    Seriously, Russia had been trying to do this for a year, and then Sweden goes and does it for them.

    All those wasted hacker hours.

    Sigh.

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  31. Misleading and incorrect article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, while the agency has f*cked up big time, this article is actually spinning it in a manner worse than any tabloid. It's completely mixing up two completely unrelated incidents:

    1. The mass e-mailing of sensitive data - some companies are subscribing to list of car registration details (i.e. addresses of car owners). These lists are supposed to be filtered to not contain anyone with "hidden identities", but for some reason they were not. (Sadly, the agency tried to mitigate this by sending a followup list of ONLY those people that should have been removed from the previous list....)

    2. When outsourcing to IBM, handover to IBM staff outside of Sweden was done without doing proper background checks, willfully ignoring multiple laws and going against the recommendation of the police (Säpo). Whether any data actually has leaked is not publically known as of today - the police has withheld this information.

  32. I see how it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So it's okay when Sweden "Leaks" but it's not okay when Assange does it.

    1. Re:I see how it is by Z00L00K · · Score: 4, Informative

      Even worse - the responsible people were told that the transfer was even an illegal move by the internal revision people of that department but they moved ahead anyway. Responsible ministers kept silent and didn't even inform the prime minister of this.

      Nothing less than a public flogging would be suitable.

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    2. Re: I see how it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By definition, nothing the government does is illegal. The government makes and enforces the law. Your task as a citizen is to obey. If you do not, you're a terrorist.

    3. Re: I see how it is by Maritz · · Score: 1

      In most free countries there is an independent judiciary. Pretty basic stuff.

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    4. Re: I see how it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry. You're not being detained.

  33. don't worry by doctorvo · · Score: 1

    This will be small potatoes compared to the leaks of private financial and medical data we can expect from the CFPB and the reporting required by ACA.

  34. I thought there would be more good-looking women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh well, not like someone has already filtered them out [link elided].

  35. Source for email details by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone know the original source of the claim below? Can't find anything about it in the references, including their subrefs.

    "The transport agency then emailed the entire database in messages to marketers that subscribe to it. And what's terrible is that the messages were sent in clear text. When the error was discovered, the transport agency merely thought of sending a new list in another email, asking the subscribers to delete the old list themselves."

  36. Chernobyl WAS a singular event by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank goodness this was a singular event

    It was a singular event, being the only nuclear power plant accident which caused a verifiable radiologically induced human death. Thus see for instance Fukushima Daiichi where no death due to radioactive materials can be established, and where, perversely (and at great cost), one outcome will be vastly lowered rates of thyroid cancer mortality.

    Moreover the dozens of confirmed, and hundreds of potential, deaths due to Chernobyl need to be weighed against the 1.8million lives saved by nuclear energy that would otherwise have been lost due to burning fossil fuels.

  37. APK = Full of Fail by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    Hate to spoil your narrative, but I'm not from Sweden.

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  38. Why are they selling that information?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I presume people in Sweden pay taxes to fund government services... why is the government selling personal information of citizens to marketers?

    And why the fuck do they have witness protection program , military personnel , inmates , and government officials in a single archive ??? I'm guessing it's multiple databases but clearly was single access for all of it with no controls.

  39. Max Payne 3 Pc Game Download by malikb2017 · · Score: 0
  40. borked, borked, borked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and now for something completely different:

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/08/28/what_is_the_swedish_chef_actually_saying_one_swede_translates_.html

  41. Thomas Jefferson said it... by jlar · · Score: 1

    "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have."

    - Thomas Jefferson

    This should be a reminder that an omnipresent government like the Swedish government has some inherent risks.

  42. Unfortunately, the story's completely true :-( by Flu · · Score: 1

    "..the transport agency then emailed the entire database in messages to marketers that subscribe to it."

    This sentence makes no sense. What did the marketers subscribe to? The top secret database??!! This must have been quite a large database, I doubt that you can attach and mail it. Who mailed what to whom?

    The whole database WAS indeed leaked. In clear text. To former Soviet countries. And also by mail. As decided by a senior official(!).

    Most content of the DB is official data under the the freedom of information act (Offentlighetsprincipen), so it does make sense to supply that information to any commercial subscriber, such insurance companies etc., but from a military standpoint, this leak is the most severe leak since 1980's, when russian spy Stig Bergling stole enormous amounts of top secret information.

    A government database like containing things like names, street-names, car make and models contains mostly repeating information, very easily compressed to mailable size using zip. The "funny" thing is that the officials confirm the database was leaked, "but any villain do not have the correct interface, so they cannot read it". Well, is not a problem for any scriptkiddie to google an appropriate extraction tools, don't you think? The only exaggeration in the post, is that minors and adults without a drivers license isn't included in the database, which still means that ~75% of the entire population is included.

    1. Re:Unfortunately, the story's completely true :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would expect a database with this much information of let's say 5-10 million entries (10 million people in Sweden), with full name and address, car type and probably some other information as well to be at least 1 GB even compressed. Not the kind of attachment you send in an e-mail.
      Also, how can you see one is a fighter pilot? Does this database contain military rank or something if available? What other info than your name and address (and maybe some type of SSN or passport identifier) do they need when registering a car?.
      I think they put all their databases in the cloud and they were all leaked. Because how would you link capacity and structural integrity of bridges and roads to car data? You don't. It's a different database unless they created those tables in the same database. So, multiple databases got leaked pretty much.
      But still doesn't say how you can mail all the data.

  43. It contains top secret information by Flu · · Score: 2

    So this story is essentially much ado about nothing

    So while some 90% of the database is official, it DOES contain secret military information without any marking of that, or at least that wasn't removed prior to publishing the database.

    From a military perspective, this is the largest leak since the 1980's, when Russian spy Stig Bergling stole huge amounts of even more dangerous information, which basically forced a complete(!) re-organization of the whole military.

    1. Re:It contains top secret information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it is not. The Defense Department themselves confirmed that no such military information was handled by this particular agency.

  44. Probably not made official until now by Flu · · Score: 1

    Leak happened in 2015!

    Turning one sheet of paper every day, it takes some time for any information of the leaks to be published under the freedom of information act ("Offentlighetsprincipen"). If you're in a hurry. Otherwise, they'll only do it on Friday afternoons. If there's any spare time...

  45. Q&A at the agency's site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are interested there is a Q&A at Transportstyrelsen's site
    http://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/Om-transportstyrelsen/fragor-och-svar/
    It's in Swedish so you need Google translate. It is of course subjective statements. Still it should clear some misunderstandings. That is not to say that the breach is bad -- it is, and it is unfortunately a sign of general incompetence and naivety when it comes to IT security as highlighted by another Swedish agency (http://www.fra.se/snabblankar/english.10.html).

  46. Re: This is why the US need a smaller government.. by KGIII · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not really, no. The water levels are low for reasons other than global warming. The aquifer is nearly depleted due to overuse and drought. None of those is directly related to climate change. The depletion is definitely due to humans, however. The river should also be fed be aquifer. It isn't. We used the water to grow food and lawns.

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  47. What happened in Sweden? SWEDEN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stupid privatization, outsourcing combined with the EU and massive immigration. Billions of tax payers money lost in shady deals.

    My nation has deteriorated ever since Prime Minister Olof Palme got murdered.

    Accountability with ministers and governmental departments in Sweden is nearly nonexistant.

    (English is not my native language and Google Translate felt really erratic, so this is what you get /. )

  48. Not an accident by castrox · · Score: 1

    The title says it was an "accident" which is incorrect. This was done with open eyes all the while security responsible protested and a lot of other IT people.

    The director ordered this outsourcing project to continue and give access to the IBM contractors before they had been given security clearance. IBM's personnel are located in different countries such as Serbia, Poland, etc. The access is (still) administrative access to databases and data shares.

    It's of course not just one big database but many. What's also not in the summary is that an encrypted inter-agency network was also exposed. Oops.

    The motive of the (now ex) director's order was to speed up the project, because the transport agency otherwise would have issues with their daily work (issue driver licenses, etc.). The government has also been breathing down their necks to save money, hence this outsourcing (short-sighted madness).

    It's a trainwreck from beginning to end, really. Heads will roll.

    IAAS (I Am A Swede) as well..

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  49. The artilcle is mostly wrong and confusing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The transport agency then emailed the entire database in messages to marketers that subscribe to it."

    What? No...

    If you want to know what ACTUALLY happned do a Google translate of this;
    http://www.breakit.se/artikel/8326/jag-laste-sapos-granskning-av-it-skandalen-i-transportstyrelsen-sa-du-slipper

  50. emailed the entire database? by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Sound like BS to me.

    Where I work, emails are limited to 10MB in size. We have a n email application that allows for large file transfer, up to 150MB. I'm sure most governments and corporations have similar restrictions, or at least *some*.

    I'm not sure what size the Transportation database would be for an entire country, but I am thinking it would be large enough that no email system anywhere of any type is going to be very successful at moving it.

    What is more likely is that the data was on the cloud, and that the location was sent out beyond what they were supposed to. However one would think that said cloud would have the appropriate security setup for it, which is more concerning if it was not. Indeed that would be just as much the contractor's fault (unless specifically told not to, also unlikely) as the government if it was simply left open for anyone to access.

    Bottom line is I work with a lot of large databases, and none of them would likely rival the size of an entire transportation DB, and I don't think I could even come close to "emailing" them to anyone no mater what I tried to do...

  51. basic license plate database was already public by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hitta.se has basic license plate -> name & phone number data. It's intentionally public in Sweden, and breathless melodramatic questions like, "how did you get this number? / using a phone book," aren't as normal in Sweden as they are in the US.

  52. Don't blame Sweden by Dareth · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't blame Sweden, they thought the cloud was wearing a condom.

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  53. Zontar's FAILS (w/ proof, quoted) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  54. Yay women....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Although the data breach happened in 2015, Swedish Secret Service discovered it in 2016 and started investigating the incident, which led to the fire of STA director-general Maria Ågren in January 2017.

    > Ågren was also fined half a month's pay (70,000 Swedish krona which equals to $8,500) after finding her guilty of being "careless with secret information," according to the publication.

    So much for hiring women.

  55. sensationalized story by jeffkoch · · Score: 1

    The first article linked says that the Swedish Transportation Agency allowed IBM to proceed without background checks and security clearances. Some of the IBM personnel were located in other countries. It does not say that anyone outside of IBM had any inappropriate access. The second article linked, from which the summary paragraph above is drawn, seems a bit sensational in extrapolating this as having been a huge data leak -- "...emailed the entire database...".

  56. Swedish Transport IT Chef by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Börk, Börk, Börked!

  57. Aah sweden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are so proud of being cashless, and likely will be the first country to use implantable rfid chips in their citizens. Will be interesting to see the sheeples response when their rfid keys or biometric markers are accidently uploaded online and some enterprising hacker does a mass I'd theft and transfers all their government crypto coins (naturally linked to their rfid tags) to a bank in eastern europe. Science fiction? Give it 20 years.

  58. Here be pendantry by q4Fry · · Score: 1

    "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have."

    - Thomas Jefferson

    This is a cute turn of phrase, but a government gets to the "can take everything you have" size long before it reaches the "give you everything you want" level.* Most (all?) of the planet's population lives under governments that have reached one mark but not the other.

    * For sane definitions of "everything you want" and "everything you have." Clearly, if one of the things I want is a government that can't take anything from me, the premise itself is flawed.