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US Defense Budget May Help Fund 'Hacking For Defense' Classes At Universities (ieee.org)
According to an instructor at Stanford, eight universities in addition to Stanford will offer a Hacking for Defense class this year: Boise State, Columbia, Georgetown, James Madison, the University of California at San Diego, the University of Pittsburgh, the University of Southern California, and the University of Southern Mississippi. IEEE Spectrum reports: The class has spun out Hacking for Diplomacy, Hacking for Energy, and other targeted classes that use the same methodology. The snowballing effort is now poised to get a big push. This month, the U.S. House of Representatives passed an amendment originated by Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-Ill.) to support development of curriculum, best practices, and recruitment materials for the program to the tune of $15 million (a drop in the $700 billion defense budget but a big deal for a university program). In arguing for the amendment, Lipinski said, "Rapid, low-cost technological innovation is what makes Silicon Valley revolutionary, but the DOD hasn't historically had the mechanisms in place to harness this American advantage. Hacking for Defense creates ways for talented scientists and engineers to work alongside veterans, military leaders, and business mentors to innovate solutions that make America safer."
The US has a lot of great hackers, they just won't work for the government and DEFINITELY won't work for Democrats.
Original AC here. Nice way of turning a completely unpolitical statement into some stupid partisan bullshit. Regarding that, the Republicans are currently in charge, they won the election and so you have the childish assclown as president that you always wanted to have! In case you haven't noticed, nobody wants to work for the current government.
" Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded..
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 9, 2017"
Putin will guard USA, Trump says so himself. So why need American hackers?
It'll be cheaper too, hackers will be paid for by Russia so no need to ask Congress for budget.
And it will be secure too. so-called NSA has that role currently, but they keep leaking stuff to Congressmen and Senators, while Russia keeps stuff secure:
How many of these undisclosed meetings with Russian laywers and intelligence men have we learned about from CIA leaks? Loads! How many undisclosed meetings have we learned about from the Russians they met with? None! SECURE!
It's very noticable that you turfers are trying to draw the line:
Russia Trump Republicans (line drawn here) Democrats
Instead of
Russia (line drawn here) Trump Republicans Democrats
I don't think you're a Republican turfer because Republicans have already proposed sanctions increases against Russia for the hack. At best you're a Trump supporter. But then I notice you're not drawing this line:
Russia Trump (line drawn here) Republicans Democrats
All of Putin's satellite governments have tried to divide a country along political lines and align to one group. This is happening in Poland now, and really what's needed is for Trump to align himself with his fellow Republicans and stop letting Putin divide America via Trump.
Each time Trump talks to Putin like he's talking to his boss, it really reveals the problem here.
Its not what you think. It hacking in "old" sense, creative, simple solutions to problems. Not the "new" definition of hacking as in hostile technological attacks.
... all the time not contaminating the interview by mentioning or steering things toward your ideas. The academic is merely interviewing to learn about real people, real problems and real solutions, or lack thereof. After 100 such interviews there should be some recurring themes, and these themes should suggest a direction to move in, unlike whatever crap the academics dreamed up in isolation in their office/lab.
It looks like they are taking a modern entrepreneurial methodology and applying it to DoD problems. The NSF has been doing this for a while through its variation Innovation Corp (I-Corp) programs, https://www.nsf.gov/funding/pg.... Running academic researchers through this training to increase the success rate of NSF funded research making it to the market.
Notice that the students teams are doing 100 interviews, that sounds exactly like NSF I-Corp. The premise here is to teach academic researchers that whatever ideas they have about the use of their technology is most like crap, that the solutions in their mind are most likely crap. That they need to get their a** out of their office/lab and go talk to real people in the real world. Talk not about your solution, but talk about the people's problems in the domain your solution exists in, what people have tried as solutions, what worked, what didn't, why,
Now the academics go implement a solution in a very incremental agile-like fashion. Doing more interviews to validate their solution and their continued progress, to make sure they are on track. Hypothesis, experiment, feedback, repeat.
Its basically applying an agile-like process to business and product development.
This new DoD stuff seems to be trying to get their suppliers to use this approach. Rather than the lets develop a business plan and complete product specification in isolation approach. The "it doesn't have to actually work, it only needs to meet the DoD approved spec" approach.
it's literally asking your citizens to attack and sabotage other countries' networks and communication means. It's basically a declaration of war, where every citizen can take up the role of a "cyber warrior" at their own discretion. The EU and Asia should respond to this with the same means.
The american way of doing the chinese trick of forcing people to put spyware on their devices.
...in russia
Capability Based Security can actually fix this mess we call "computer security", but alas, it remains an obscure topic.
with student loans as high as they are they don't need to fund this.
What about an free trade school for this that does not take 4 years loaded with theory?
The number of Russian students gong to US universities will skyrocket. These classes will have a rather significant amount of foreign students from China, Russia and India attending. At least the last one of those seems to like us for now. Then after graduation they will return home and a few years down the road Congress will hold hearings and express their anger at how nobody at the time thought that restricting access to these classes to only US citizen students was a good idea and how they can't believe that schools willingly taught our adversaries skills they could use against us.
Posting from one of them right now...... if you don't restrict these classes to US citizens only, you'll just be teaching the Chinese how to hack better.
"Rapid, low-cost technological innovation is what makes Silicon Valley revolutionary,"
Low cost to whom? Consumers? Still waiting for the $50 iPhone.....
All you need is the (D) after the congressman to know all this really is going to be is "blaming Russia for defense."
Interesting, are you that committed to your ideology? 4 Years after Mr. "I want to fight the Cold War again" you're not "Russians are our friends" without even Ozymandias to scare you into it?
The US has a lot of great hackers, they just won't work for the government and DEFINITELY won't work for Democrats.
Lots of "hackers" work for the government, and you might be surprised at how many political operatives there are.
Part of that has to do with the anti-authoritarian streak that most hackers have, but mostly it has to do with the absolutely stifling government culture. I'm sure everyone's heard the "those who can't, teach" joke before, but the reality is "those who can't land cushy government jobs where they can never be fired." Working for those people sucks and it's what sends most hackers as far away from the government as they possibly can.
Sure man, and working for who is the alternative? Some sketchy guy trying to get old ladies to buy shares in condos? The people selling the latest "trick" to beat a traffic ticket? Maybe somebody who will sell DVDS with content badly transferred from VHS so you can be a REAL ESTATE Tycoon? Oh oh, maybe you'll mine some digital currency that gets hacked on a regular basis?
Oh, I know, you can be a "start-up" wizard who gets paid in toilet paper and toothbrushes!
As many have already pointed out, the number of foreign students at U.S. universities is astounding, especially at the sort of universities likely to get this funding. You'd be doing nothing more than teaching our adversaries how to attack us. This should be taught at military academies and via specialized ROTC training.
Specialized ROTC training for computer engineering grads (none of this namby-pamby CompSci shit) will provide college funding for students and a ready-made qualified talent pool for the military to draw from.
the growth in cynicism and rebellion has not been without cause
...it is obsolete, whatever you are teaching.
Hacking for Defence sounds a lot cooler than students being drafted for a tour of duty in the Vietnamese jungle.
With the definition for hacker, as used here, hacking for defense seems to be like fucking for virginity.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."