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Crowdfunding Campaign Seeks a Libre Recording of a Newly-Completed Bach Work (kickstarter.com)

Slashdot reader DevNull127 writes: Robert Douglass's Kickstarter campaigns have resulted in free fan-funded open source recordings of Bach's Goldberg Variations and the 48 pieces in his Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 1. "Even Richard Stallman found these recordings, and he promptly wrote an email encouraging us to drop the word 'Open' in favor of 'Free' or 'Libre'," Douglas tells BoingBoing (adding "when RMS writes you telling you to change the name of your music project, you change the name of your music project.")

Now Douglass is crowdfunding a libre recording of Bach's last masterpiece, 20 fugues developed from a single theme called "the Art of the Fugue". "He wanted to culminate in a final fugue that literally spells his name, B-A-C-H, in musical notation," remembers Douglass, but "unfortunately, Bach died before completing that work, and it has remained a musical mystery (and tragedy) for hundreds of years." Fortunately Kimiko Ishizaka completed the work in 2016, "based on the music that Bach left us... This new composition will also be released under a Creative Commons license as part of the new OpenScore.cc project... Kimiko is eminently grateful to her fans and supporters of free culture for allowing her to focus all of her energies on growing the public domain and bringing the music of J.S. Bach to a far broader audience than ever imagined."

They're also rewarding supporters with tickets to two live performances -- one at Carnegie Hall in New York City and one in Hamburg's new Elbphilharmonie.

87 comments

  1. Er... I don't think so by Harold+Halloway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Douglas tells BoingBoing (adding "when RMS writes you telling you to change the name of your music project, you change the name of your music project.")

    Really? I think quite a lot of musicians would tell him RMS to take a hike.

    1. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not when it is actually correct what he is saying...

    2. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks a lot like a person susceptible to the appeal to authority fallacy.
      If RMS thinks that you are using free/open wrong then you should reconsider your previous usage, because it is clear that he has givin it a lot of thought.
      That doesn't mean that you should follow his advice blindly.

      It is also damn important to consider that RMS mainly is an idealist when it comes to these things, not an actual lawyer.
      If the phrasing really is important for your work you should consult with an expert, not an idealist.

    3. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, free software has worked out so poorly. I hear Linus Torvalds and everyone who has ever contributed to the Linux kernel are now living under bridges. YOU COW!!

    4. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Libre is a stupid, pretentious word.

    5. Re:Er... I don't think so by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Which musicians? Bach is dead. Ishizaka is happy to release her work free (libre) to the public. Apparently so are the musicians involved in the actual performance. Who are we to tell them otherwise?

      Now I disagree with Stallman on many points, and I prefer to use other licenses over GPL, but in this case I'd agree with him that "free" is a better word to apply to this project than "open"

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    6. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's french/latin for you, putting anglos in their place since 1066.

    7. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lack of NSA infestation and telemetry? Priceless.

    8. Re:Er... I don't think so by jcr · · Score: 1

      I'm only an amateur musician, and I'd tell Richard to take a hike, too.

      -jcr

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    9. Re: Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You review every line of source prior to compiling? Bravo!

    10. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      1% desktop market after two decades? Hardly a sign of success.

      It's 1.64% of all Internet-bound computers. That's a lot more than 1% of Desktop market. https://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php?year=2017&month=7

    11. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Systemd can be used for telemetry, not now but likely in the future.

    12. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what share of phones, tablets, and servers? Can you point me at the share of the Top 500 running Windows?

    13. Re:Er... I don't think so by murdocj · · Score: 1

      It's not clear that it's "correct". To me Open would be more correct. "Free" has two meanings: zero cost, or zero copyright.

    14. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I sure as hell would. RMS isn't a god (though by the way he acts, you wouldn't necessarily know that).

    15. Re: Er... I don't think so by guruevi · · Score: 2

      Open means anyone can collaborate or contribute. Free/libre means that anyone can get it free of any asserted rights like copyright. It doesn't mean it's free as in someone may want to charge money to give it to you on CD or charge you for consumed bandwidth.

      There are plenty of "open" projects that are not free/libre, generally a company claiming to be open source but the license actually restricts you from sharing although they will take your contributions to improve their software.

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    16. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, most everyone would still tell him to fuck off.

    17. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      B, A, C - OK, but H???

      I don't think so, no matter how well tempered your clavier is.

    18. Re:Er... I don't think so by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Q: What's the difference between RMS and God?

      A: God doesn't think he's RMS.

      (Re-purposed Ellison joke)

    19. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But this isn't a site for Romans and surrender monkeys.

    20. Re:Er... I don't think so by tepples · · Score: 2

      I know a server running Linux accepted comment #55002349, but did you key it into a phone or tablet? In addition, the phones and tablets you're referring to run a proprietary userland (GMS) atop the free AOSP and Linux layers.

    21. Re:Er... I don't think so by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Libre is a stupid, pretentious word.

      It sounds that way, because it is not used commonly in English. (Not so for other languages like French, etc.)

      But please, let's allow that it is useful, when you want to avoid the confusion that can arise from the double-meaning of "free" in English.

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    22. Re:Er... I don't think so by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      B, A, C - OK, but H???

      I don't think so, no matter how well tempered your clavier is.

      The older (German?) convention for labelling notes used B for what we now call B-flat, and H for what we now call B. So, B-flat, A, C, B spells B-A-C-H in that convention.

      Many other composers have used this note-sequence as a tribute to Bach, even though the old labelling convention has long been abandoned. (See for example, Charles Ives' three-page sonata for piano.)

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    23. Re:Er... I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Without help from those monkeys, US would still be under British rule. So they should be called freedom monkeys.

    24. Re:Er... I don't think so by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Open means you can continue to work on it. From a Stallman point of view with people using computers to create music, rather than entire orchestras, that means being able to work on the entirety of the piece for peer to peer preview and possible update. With orchestras it is very different although, digitally with sufficient processing power, you could pull an instrument out and add you attempt in. The open content creation slowed down a bit, everyone bought into the YouTube millionaire bit and got a bit selfish, until Google reminded them how selfish they were, your content is likely to show ads and you get paid nothing in future, unless you are a corporate acceptable YouTube homepager (the rest don't be surprised if YouTube starts charging you, you silly drug addicts, first it's free, hell they even paid people and then your hooked and then you pay).

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    25. Re:Er... I don't think so by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      This convention is still generally used in Germany, with guiarists being a notable exception due to the widespread use of English sources (and American made electric guitar strings).

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  2. public domian recodings will flood in any case by sittingnut · · Score: 3, Interesting

    as copyright periods run out, in next few decades, recordings of music from earlier part of 20th century (and increasingly great quality) will flood the audience.
    even more than new libre recordings, i think there should be a project to catalog and publish such music to public.

    1. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you should whip yourself with a riding crop, and release the video libre. That would be hot.

    2. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Historically copyright tends to get extended retroactively when it is about to expire for work of value.
      I think it is more likely that will happen again rather than things reaching public domain.

      More specifically I think copyright will be changed so that instead of being tied to death of artist it will be tied to death of copyright holder.
      That way work from writers that weren't signed to corporations will reach public domain and it will be possible to capitalize on them.
      Meanwhile copyright held by corporations will be held indefinitely.

    3. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Lets just pray Disney doesn't own any of those copyrights, or we'll see another 50 years tacked on.

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    4. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by RDW · · Score: 3, Interesting

      as copyright periods run out, in next few decades, recordings of music from earlier part of 20th century (and increasingly great quality) will flood the audience.
      even more than new libre recordings, i think there should be a project to catalog and publish such music to public.

      Quite a few bargain-price European labels are doing a good job of releasing out-of copyright historical recordings. Here in the UK, we were up to 1963 before copyright was extended from 50 years to 70, but not retroactively, so the 1947-63 period is still public domain. This covers most of the classic mono era and takes us intro the period when stereo was becoming mainstream. Glenn Gould's excellent (mono) Goldberg Variations from 1955, and probably his incomplete Art of Fugue on the organ recorded in 1962, should be out of copyright. It would be nice to see a central resource for making these recordings freely available, though there's apparently some legal ambiguity about whether you can re-distribute somebody else's digital re-master or have to rip from a contemporary disc (which is a challenging task from crackly 78s, where overenthusiastic noise reduction can kill the atmosphere). On the other hand, modern artists who want to make a living releasing Free recordings should be supported and encouraged.

    5. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by hord · · Score: 1

      They do. Some of their protected works are on the block in 2020, iirc. I've been waiting years now to see how they are going to extend it again.

    6. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're confusing copyright with mechanical recording rights. For the latter, which would cover recordings of long-dead classical composers, the mechanical rights are still 50 years. The liner notes might be covered when the recording is not.

    7. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by RDW · · Score: 1

      I'm not confusing them, but I think you are! I'm talking specifically about the copyright in a sound recording as defined in the UK:

      https://www.gov.uk/government/...

      The copyright length of the recording in the UK is now 70 years after release. However, a 50 year limit still applies to recordings that have never been officially released. This sometimes forces record companies to put things out just to extend the copyright for another 20 years:

      https://www.theguardian.com/mu...

    8. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

      This is EXACTLY what the Copyright Industry is trying to prevent. They do not want large amounts of formerly-copyrighted recordings to hit the Internet, searchable, streamable, people making remixes, etc.

      The Libary of Congress offers a National Jukebox, featuring recordings taken from early shellac disks. For instance the St. Louis Rag recorded 1906-10-05, i.e. more than 110 (one hundred and ten) years ago. And what does the US government tell their citizens?

      Rights & Access
      This recording is protected by state copyright laws in the United States. The Library of Congress has obtained a license from rights holders to offer it as streamed audio only. Downloading is not permitted. The authorization of rights holders of the recording is required in order to obtain a copy of the recording. Contact jukebox@loc.gov for more information.

      Compare to:

      U.S. Constitution, Article I Section 8 Clause 8:
      The Congress shall have power (...) To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries.”

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    9. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

      If this were to be the case, why aren't people making tons of money by putting this en masse on the web like "Project Gutenberg" except this time with lots of ad-revenue and paid subscriptions? I would! Except there's always some bloke who claims his granddad played the trumpet on that recording and wasn't paid for hire, did his "own interpretation/ad-lib", and hasn't died within the last 70 years, so please line up at the cash register.

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    10. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by tepples · · Score: 1

      State copyright in sound recordings is limited: it expires in 2067.

    11. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wasn't confusing it, but I was behind the times as I didn't realise the time limit had been extended.

    12. Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case by backslashdot · · Score: 1

      It's incredibly optimistic to think copyrights will ever run out. Do you think Disney will allow people to make new Mickey Mouse stories? Excuses will be made, and the law will be changed again. For Disney.

  3. H? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He wants to spell his name in musical notation?

    Since when is there an "H" is musical notation?

    1. Re: H? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      H is the name of the leading tone in some countries.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_(musical_note)

    2. Re:H? by myid · · Score: 2

      He wants to spell his name in musical notation?

      Since when is there an "H" is musical notation?

      According to Wikipedia:

      In music, the BACH motif is the motif, a succession of notes important or characteristic to a piece, B flat, A, C, B natural. In German musical nomenclature, in which the note B natural is written as H and the B flat as B, it forms Johann Sebastian Bach's family name.

      That's what the article says, but I don't understand it. The only hand-written music on that Wikipedia web page shows B A C H written as four notes on a treble clef staff, not written as four letters. (This is on the right edge of the web page, half-way down.) So I don't know what they mean by saying that B natural is written as H, and B flat is written as B.

    3. Re:H? by the_other_chewey · · Score: 5, Informative

      In music, the BACH motif is the motif, a succession of notes important or characteristic to a piece, B flat, A, C, B natural. In German musical nomenclature, in which the note B natural is written as H and the B flat as B, it forms Johann Sebastian Bach's family name.

      That's what the article says, but I don't understand it. The only hand-written music on that Wikipedia web page shows B A C H written as four notes on a treble clef staff, not written as four letters. (This is on the right edge of the web page, half-way down.) So I don't know what they mean by saying that B natural is written as H, and B flat is written as B.

      The explanation above is correct, but very unclearly worded.

      In German nomenclature, the notes of the c major scale are read as:
      C-D-E-F-G-A-H(-C)
      There is a note called "B": The one a half tone under H.

      So this is indeed read "B-A-C-H" in German
      (where it would of course also be considered to be written as such...).

    4. Re:H? by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it threw me when I went to join the local Musikverein. I thought they were messing with me.

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    5. Re:H? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holly: "I've devised a system to totally revolutionize music. I've decimalized it. Instead of the octave, it's the decatave. And I've invented two new notes: H and J.

      "Now it goes: Do Re Mi Fa So La Wo Bo Ti Do;
      Do Ti Bo Wo La So Fa Mi Re Do."

    6. Re:H? by myid · · Score: 1

      So if a German person looks at a B flat on a staff, and if they wrote or spoke the name of the note, would they write or say, "That note is a B"?

      And if they looked at a B natural on a staff, and if they wrote or spoke the name of the note, would they write or say, "That note is an H"?

      That's interesting. I found a good chart here.

    7. Re:H? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

      c - cis - d - dis - e - f - fis - g - gis - a - ais - h - c (sharps)
      c - des - d - es - e - f - ges - g - as - a - b - h - c (flats)

      As you can see, the other row has the letters b - a - c - h.

      (I'm in a country that uses the German notation.)

  4. "Ode to the skin between my toes" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    RMS has spoken!

  5. I completed it a few years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I completed that a few years ago. Even added "H" as a note. It's revolutionary! Someone pay me to record this work that is by Bach!

  6. RMS Explains the difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    RMS travels the planet, explaining the difference between "free software" and "open source software "to crowds. Having attended these, I will do my best to convey the knowledge.

    Free has two meanings, free as in beer and free as in freedom. Free as in freedom is often interpreted as libre or liberated software. With the first definition, the GPL never tells vendors that they must give their software away without compensation. With the second definition, customers are given the right to the source code of the product that they purchased. Through the four freedoms, liberated software makes it possible for a customer to maintain their own source code if the vendor goes out of business. Liberated software makes it possible for customers to examine the source code for back doors. By comparison, proprietary software often becomes abandonware - unsupported binary blobs that can not be updated. Additionally, proprietary software often contains back doors. These back doors allow governments and malware authors alike to intrude upon your computer and you can do nothing to stop them.

    Open source software means exactly that. You can read the source code. You don't have any special rights to improve (modify) the software or redistribute those improvements to others. Additionally, some licenses allow vendors to take this source code and lock it into their proprietary product. Apple does this with BSD. Imagine a BSD developer being deprived of the source code that they wrote. In the end, the customer is deprived of the benefits of free software.

    1. Re:RMS Explains the difference by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 0

      And yet "free as in beer" is just nonsense that sounds good.

      BTW, the GPL is not "free as in freedom" - unlike the BSD licenses, it imposes restrictions on distribution.

      Also, if RMS told you to eat foot cheese like he does (at 1:51), would you?

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    2. Re:RMS Explains the difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BTW, the GPL is not "free as in freedom" - unlike the BSD licenses, it imposes restrictions on distribution.

      It does not impose any restrictions.

      It just doesn't remove as many copyright restrictions as you would like.

    3. Re:RMS Explains the difference by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      BTW, the GPL is not "free as in freedom" - unlike the BSD licenses, it imposes restrictions on distribution.

      On balance, those restrictions are quite reasonable. Their purpose is to ensure that you cannot take the freedom you have with the software away from someone else, by forking and hiding your changes.

      People who write GPL code make their own choice to license it that way. If you don't like GPL code, don't use it. Obviously you have that freedom.

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    4. Re:RMS Explains the difference by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      BTW, the GPL is not "free as in freedom" - unlike the BSD licenses, it imposes restrictions on distribution.

      It does not impose any restrictions.

      It just doesn't remove as many copyright restrictions as you would like.

      So it leaves in place some restrictions. How is that "not imposing any restrictions?"

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    5. Re:RMS Explains the difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the law forbids you from trespassing on my land, and I decline to give you permission to pass, I'm not imposing any restrictions on you.

    6. Re:RMS Explains the difference by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 0

      The point is that anyone claiming that GPL code is free of restrictions is either a liar or a fool. Has nothing to do with whether the restrictions are reasonable or not. It certainly is not "free as in freedom" or "free as in libre."

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    7. Re:RMS Explains the difference by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Sure you are, because it's not trespass if you give permission, or if there's a servitude, or if I've passed through it long enough to have an acquired right.. It is you that is imposing a restriction, not the law. The law is just the tool you are using to impose your restrictions. Absent any restrictions from you, the law doesn't care if I trespass or not. No signs, no fences, no indication that the property isn't public land, the cops won't do shit.

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    8. Re:RMS Explains the difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bollocks.

      You want to distribute someone else's software but you don't have the rights. Tell me straight: what prevents you from distributing?

    9. Re:RMS Explains the difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That depends on your point of view. If you fork publically-available BSD code and hide the changes, then everyone else is restricted from seeing what's running on their computers. So, if you're going to claim that BSD licenses are unrestricted, I beg to differ.

    10. Re:RMS Explains the difference by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. There are plenty of times I don't need the author's permission to distribute. Stuff that is in the public domain, for example. Code that, by it's nature, cannot be copyrighted - if there is one or only a few ways to write something, these "scenes a faire" are absolutely not copyrightable, no matter how original or creative they are. And the ideas behind any code are not copyrightable since they are not themselves the expression of the idea, and only a tangible expression of an idea can be copyrighted - ideas are not copyrightable. I'm free to copy your idea any way I want without fear of copyright. Also free to distribute are clean-room implementations, even if they result in the exact same code and functionality. Otherwise, we wouldn't have multiple bioses that all do the same thing. Another non-protected area is code that is trivial. Then there's the whole concept of fair use. Trivial copying is considered "de minimus" and of no consequence.

      I simply don't need them to give me the right to do what the law allows.

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    11. Re:RMS Explains the difference by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      No, everyone else is not restricted. They can go to the effort of implementing the exact same changes, and do with them as they want. The BSD license allows it - the GPL doesn't.

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    12. Re:RMS Explains the difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't have it both ways.

      Either the inability to get closed BSD-based source (thanks to copyright law) is the same "restriction" you claim GPL imposes, or neither is a license restriction.

  7. Why not both? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not a musician, but a programmer. I write software for a living, and am paid for it. About half the software I write is released as free/libre, the other half isn't. I get paid the same.

    This is easy to extrapolate to musicians: pay for the performance and recording, and pay for the copyright to be brought under a free license.

  8. Nobody tells RMS to take a hike on naming. by pem · · Score: 1

    Case in point -- when RMS told Linus to change the name of his O/S to GNU/Linux, Torvalds immediately complied.

    1. Re:Nobody tells RMS to take a hike on naming. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linus maintains the kernel, not a distro. Hence I don't think Stallman ever petitioned him to change the name.

  9. Not the first time by dirkmuon · · Score: 2

    The /. title calls it a "Newly-Completed Bach Work." Just to be clear, the final fugue from "Art of Fugue" has been "completed" many times over the past two centuries. Musicians as eminent as Riemann, Busoni, and Tovey have proposed completions that have been published, performed, and recorded. Wikipedia has a good article.

    I haven't heard Ishizaka's version, but no matter how fine it may be it cannot be what Bach would have composed had he finished the final fugue. At one time the Bach scholar Christoph Wolff suggested that Bach probably finished the piece at some level and that the manuscript was lost. There is another theory that Bach left the final fugue incomplete on purpose.

    This was not a case of Bach on his deathbed racing to finish his magnum opus. He worked on "Art of Fugue" over several years, amid many other projects, but he became blind and then died before he had the chance to wrap it up. It is astonishingly great music but not for children. By design it is free of narrative, and it may be too austere and personal for a typical concert setting.

    1. Re:Not the first time by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 1

      Would love to hear Bach-esque completions of works such as the apparently unfinished 1st movement of the Pastorale (BWV 590). I have one in my head that I've never managed to write down, but it is really just regurgitated elements from the piece itself. I know Bach idioms well, having listened multiple times through his completed works (and dozens to hundreds through the organ and keyboard works since I'm an amateur organist). But part of his genius is that he rarely does the formulaic thing one might expect. I don't come close to being able to replicate that.

  10. Unintentional similarity by tepples · · Score: 1

    Commie RMS wants to destroy the livelihood of musicians

    Which musicians? Bach is dead. Ishizaka is happy to release her work free (libre) to the public.

    Other living composers and the estates of composers dead for less than 70 years, if and when Ishizaka's work is eventually discovered to be unintentionally similar to their work. For background, read up on the "Blurred Lines" case (Gaye v. Thicke) and the "My Sweet Lord" case (Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music).

  11. Do you make games? by tepples · · Score: 1

    write software for a living, and am paid for it. About half the software I write is released as free/libre

    Is the free software that you write for a living entertainment software? I ask because music is entertainment, and mainstream entertainment has been less quick to adopt libre licensing than software used in production by businesses.

    This is easy to extrapolate to musicians: pay for the performance and recording, and pay for the copyright to be brought under a free license.

    This is similar to how the community bought Blender from bankrupt publisher NaN for a fire-sale price of $100,000 back in 2002, an early proof of concept of crowdfunding. But unlike NaN at the time, most record labels and music publishers aren't in bankruptcy and therefore won't accept such a lowball price for the copyright.

    1. Re: Do you make games? by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Indie Game Dev here, Our source is available for free.

  12. Should be... by ckatko · · Score: 1

    Should be "When Richard Stallman tells you to do something: You install vim."

  13. Say "without charge"; free != "zero copyright" by tepples · · Score: 1

    Jehovah's Witnesses carefully refer to the gratis literature of their publisher Watch Tower as "without charge" because Watch Tower publications certainly aren't free as in libre. In fact, in 2012, Watch Tower became infamous for asserting its copyright against parodies of a skit from its animated series Become Jehovah's Friend. (This was the "Sparlock" incident, if you follow that.)

    Nor does "free" mean zero copyright. A work in the public domain is free, but a copyrighted work is also free if its copyright owner offers it under a license meeting this criteria.

    Perhaps if you consistently refer to gratis distribution as "without charge" in a work, it may be easier for readers to understand your explanation of the difference between that and free.

    1. Re:Say "without charge"; free != "zero copyright" by pem · · Score: 1
      Ahh, yes, the next phase in the battle to reclaim the word "free" from its primary, normal usage for thousands of years.

      "Don't call it free; call it 'without charge'"

      Can you even imagine what this sort of proselytizing looks like to a normal human being?

  14. Life of grandchildren; legislative misbehavior by tepples · · Score: 1

    Historically copyright tends to get extended retroactively when it is about to expire for work of value.

    That's a coincidence. The 1978 extension was to align U.S. copyright term with the Berne Convention that had been the law in other countries for several decades, and the 1998 extension was to reconcile the copyright term with the advances in health care of the twentieth century. The underlying rationale behind the term remained unchanged, namely the life of the author's grandchildren. But when uphelding the 1998 extension, the Supreme Court warned Congress against a third extension: unless Congress gives a damn good reason, the Court may find "legislative misbehavior."

  15. Finally answering the age old question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they've finally found a way to eliminate the punchline from the old "How do you get to Carnegie Hall?" - now the answer is "Kickstarter", apparently.

  16. Hewitt & Perahia are better than Glenn Gould by mfearby · · Score: 1

    I can't stand Glenn Gould's recordings because of his irritating humming in the background. Angela Hewitt's or Murray Perahia's recordings are much better, and 2CD sets of same can be had for the price of a few cups of coffee, so why would anyone want to slum it with old mono recordings (unless you're one of those strange Glenn Gould worshippers)?

  17. Re: Hewitt & Perahia are better than Glenn Gou by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You sound like my son who won't watch old movies because he thinks black and white is inferior. Gould's humming is annoying but doesn't intrude too much unless you let it.

  18. Re: Hewitt & Perahia better than Glenn Gould by mfearby · · Score: 1

    Gould's humming is not something that can be ignored, and coupled with the inferior sound quality, it just adds up to a very unpleasant listening experience. I don't own any Gould CDs because I won't buy them, not even at bargain basement prices. Life is too short to be subjected to bad quality audio and Gould's inability to keep his mouth shut during recording has put him at the bottom of my list :-)

  19. From a certain perspective... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the human perspective, the GPL places restrictions on source code that BSD does not. That is an obvious clear reading of both licenses.

    Consider the rights of the source code itself. Sometimes I wonder if RMS considers source code to be a person with it's own rights. If you examine the four freedoms, the outcome is that the source code remains free.

    To guarantee the freedom of GPL code, restrictions are placed on vendors by the authors of the code. It is the author's right to do so, and nobody is forcing any vendor to distribute GPL code.

    The totally unrestricted BSD license allows the code to be withheld from customers, resulting in a product that is eventually destined for obsolescence and abandonment. The labor of the programmers may then be lost to history, along with any knowledge generated along the way. Some vendors prefer code with such a license as it guarantees a steady income from repeat customers while spreading the expense of programming.

    The way in which the licenses are interpreted determines the perspective. Which license is better, GPL or BSD? It's a trick question that devolves into an argument.

    1. Re:From a certain perspective... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From a legal perspective (which is what counts), GPL does not place any restrictions at all on what you can do with the code.

      ALL the restrictions on distribution and derivative works stem from copyright law. They are there no matter what license you choose. GPL conditionally removes some restrictions, that's all. This means the same thing as granting permissions.

      GPL doesn't grant as many permissions as BSD, MIT or Apache licenses but that doesn't mean it adds any restrictions.

  20. What will really bake your noodle is... by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

    Did Bach die before completing his self-referential piece, or did it kill him? Was he drawn into it? Is he still in there? A far better fate than a misplaced accidental, being run over by a Ricecar, impaled by a contrapuntal counterpoint or a baroquen heart. When great composers decompose to compositions of rich melodious compost, the wit oft exceeds the whiff.

    --
    <blink>down the rabbit hole</blink>