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Tech Companies Urge Supreme Court To Boost Cellphone Privacy (reuters.com)

More than a dozen high technology companies and the biggest wireless operator in the United States, Verizon, have called on the U.S. Supreme Court to make it harder for government officials to access individuals' sensitive cellphone data. From a report: The companies filed a 44-page brief with the court on Monday night in a high-profile dispute over whether police should have to get a warrant before obtaining data that could reveal a cellphone user's whereabouts. Signed by some of Silicon Valley's biggest names, including Apple, Facebook, Twitter, Snap and Alphabet's Google, the brief said that as individuals' data is increasingly collected through digital devices, greater privacy protections are needed under the law. "That users rely on technology companies to process their data for limited purposes does not mean that they expect their intimate data to be monitored by the government without a warrant," the brief said.

29 comments

  1. I am making so much money on this market by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm up over $400k just this year alone. Insane.

  2. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    LOL, Pot.Kettle.Black.

  3. cort dont make the law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    that congress

    1. Re:cort dont make the law by EndlessNameless · · Score: 1

      Massively ignorant response.

      It's called case law, and it addresses the millions of potential issues that could be interpreted one way or the other under the law.

      If Congress has a problem with a Supreme Court ruling, they can simply amend the underlying law.

      If it's a constitutional case, then it's a little more complicated---but still possible. Good luck getting an amendment through with today's politics though.

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  4. Good Luck With That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not the SCROTUMs job to do that.

    1. Re:Good Luck With That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh look, another anti-government idiot who can barely read and write. Tell us again how a democratic republican works.

    2. Re: Good Luck With That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "democratic republican"

      Pot, meet kettle.

  5. Good luck with that. by backslashdot · · Score: 2

    They are better off purchasing a few senators and congresscritters.

  6. Just give us better encryption by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Without that, all their pleas are extremely hollow. All this is a dog and pony show anyway. Where on the ledger does it show that it matters?

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    1. Re:Just give us better encryption by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Without that, all their pleas are extremely hollow. All this is a dog and pony show anyway. Where on the ledger does it show that it matters?

      The government keeps asking them to add backdoors...

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    2. Re:Just give us better encryption by mrwireless · · Score: 1

      Society: let's create a comprehensive solution, combining laws and technology for optimum protection.

      Technologists: Nah, just give us the technological part. One layer of security should be enough for everybody.

      The Californian ideology, that strange hybrid where mostly progressive people at the same time believe in small government and the 'disruption' of institutions.

  7. Oh fuck verizon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They are the ones that sold out every customer to the admob (supercookie, anyone), they don't want Privacy for the *customers*, they don't like the gov and their favourite three-letter-agencys intruding in their networks.

    1. Re:Oh fuck verizon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't have a say in the matter with regards to the TLAs. However I've found they have ample bandwidth to stream Netflix in HD to my TV as a backup for when my wired internet is down, and I find that admirable. Their stock price has been languishing for several years and I'm thinking about dumping them and maybe picking up some Intel shares instead after the latest AMD gaffe.

  8. the Scotus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The SCROTUSES on the SCOTUS appointed by the POTUS to interpret the COTUS have better things to do.

    This will fail. This is something for the GOTUSES of the SOTUSES, and maybe even the ROTUSES and SOTUSES of either HOTUS.

  9. Is it just ME? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every time I see SCOTUS I think of SCROTUM.

  10. just as hollow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Without that, all their pleas are extremely hollow. All this is a dog and pony show anyway. Where on the ledger does it show that it matters?

    "better encryption" is pretty goddamned hollow when the authorities can coerce the password out of you

    1. Re:just as hollow by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      What's going on here? Am I missing something the summary implies location history something encryption isn't going to hep with when they are getting the info from the carrier not your phone.

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  11. Make Congress use LCD carriers and cells by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2

    Then they can feel the pain like us.

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  12. Not just better encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's plenty in the protocols that could've been designed with more eye toward privacy. You can't fix that afterward with laws.

    So when designing, go for full-on privacy, when you can, wherever you can. No exceptions.

  13. They don't like the competition. by bravecanadian · · Score: 2

    Heh.

  14. Not just the GOV by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every application on my phone wants to track my GPS coordinates...

    They can turn around and sell it to anyone... including Government agencies.

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    1. Re:Not just the GOV by antdude · · Score: 1

      Yes, annoying. However, you can deny them to have locations. I do that. I even disable it fully until I need it.

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  15. Alphabet's Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It feels like saying "Philip Morris's Nabisco". Give it up, nobody cares... it's like when Google tried to convince people for legal reasons to not use "google" as a verb, but you knew that everyone was going to do it anyway.

  16. Since when by DaMattster · · Score: 2

    Since when does big telecom care about our privacy. Most of the companies were complicit in the CALEA project.

    1. Re:Since when by clonehappy · · Score: 1

      No shit, if they don't want to give up customers private data, stop fucking logging it. Verizon, your plans are now unlimited. There is no longer any business need for domestic call logs (international calls are still subject to interception, as they always have been), data logs, or any other kind of logging of communications between two domestic parties. You can't give up the information you don't have. Lead by fucking example. Log nothing unless under the order of a signed warrant describing the party to be logged.

      Of course, this will never happen, because Verizon is as full of shit as a Christmas Turkey (as is Google, Facebook, Twitter, et al.) as they have exactly zero desire for the gravy train of government money pouring into them to stop if they no longer have the sweet, sweet data they keep on all the citizens. Verizon is ostensibly just a "service provider" and should make their money providing service, not data mining for profit. If they really wanted to make a change, they could do it, today. Now, before anyone starts talking about how they'd be run out of business by the deep state if they did so, think about this: I'm positive that if there exists one large company that can't be blackmailed by the government, it's the fucking landline phone provider of Washington, DC!

      The rest of the bottom-feeding companies would have to go out of business, of course, since tracking peoples every thought and idea is their sole profit center. No one forces you to use those other services though. But yes, I agree, they don't care one bit. Let's see big telecom lead us into the warrantless spying-free future! I won't be holding my breath.

  17. Government != private corporations by grumpy_old_grandpa · · Score: 1, Troll

    No, the government collecting your data is not the same as when private corporations do.

    When Google knows what you click on, they'll show you some adds. The FBI, local SWAT or sheriff on the other hand, will kick down your door, shoot your dog, beat you to shit. If you're lucky, they go to the wrong house, and it is your neighbor who gets the treatment.

    Losing privacy to advertising companies can be annoying and frustrating. Losing privacy to your government is by definition a surveillance state, and quickly becomes a police state. If you live in the USofA, you just have to look out the window to see it unfolding in front of your eyes.

  18. Google wants greater privacy protections?? by Stinky+Cheese+Man · · Score: 1

    That's hilarious. Even their keyboard app wants access to my Contacts list.

    1. Re:Google wants greater privacy protections?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want it to autocorrect when you type your friends email address it might help if it knew your friends email address.

  19. Hypocrisy? by spiritwave · · Score: 1

    "...does not mean that they expect their intimate data to be monitored by the government without a warrant"

    No, those tech companies just want marketing companies to monitor our intimate data "for limited purposes" (and pay the tech companies handsomely to do that).

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