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Memories of Fear Could Be Permanently Erased, Study Shows (theguardian.com)

A new study unpicks why certain sounds can stir alarming memories, and reveals a new approach to wiping such memories from the brain. The Guardian reports: Published in the journal Neuron by Cho and his colleague Woong Bin Kim, the research reveals how the team used genetically modified mice to examine the pathways between the area of the brain involved in processing a particular sound and the area involved in emotional memories, known as the amygdala. In the first part of the experiment the team played both a high pitched and low-pitched tone to mice. But, when the high-pitched sound was played, the researchers also gave the mice a small electric shock to their feet. When the high-pitched tone was subsequently played on its own, the mice froze in fear; no such response was seen when the alternative, low-pitched, tone was played. The team then looked to see if there were differences between the high-pitch and low-pitch tone pathways in the brains of the mice, revealing that, among the mice exposed electric shocks, the connections within the "high-pitched" pathway had become stronger, while the other pathway remained unchanged. The team found that when mice were subsequently repeatedly exposed to high-pitched sounds without the shocks they lost their fear -- a process known as fear extinction.

But the team discovered that using a technique called optogenetics, it was possible to truly erase the unpleasant memories. This technique involved the researchers using a virus to introduce genes into particular neurons in the brains of the mice that were involved in the "high-pitch" pathways. Once inside the cells, the genes result in the production of proteins which respond to light, allowing researchers to control the activity of the neurons. Taking mice with the fearful memories, the team exposed the neurons involved in the "high-pitch" pathway to low-frequency light -- an approach which weakens the connections between the neurons. The upshot was that the mice no longer appeared fearful when they heard the high-pitched tone.

38 comments

  1. thank god by bugs2squash · · Score: 2

    my fear of high pitched tones can finally be cured. Callas need ho longer terrify me.

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  2. GREAT! Please help me! by elrous0 · · Score: 0, Troll

    I accidentally stumbled on an episode of Girls and saw Lena Dunham naked. Wipe all my memories if you have to! Just get me out of this living nightmare!

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    1. Re: GREAT! Please help me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh my God I'm so sorry, no one should have to go through that.

    2. Re: GREAT! Please help me! by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Every day is pain now.

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      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    3. Re: GREAT! Please help me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, oh pain, oh sorrow.

    4. Re: GREAT! Please help me! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Every day is pain now.

      Damn you! I didn't know this person, yet I searched, I found, and now I am permanently damaged!

      That's pretty grim........

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    5. Re:GREAT! Please help me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to cleanse your palette. I suggest the Golden Girls Playboy edition.

    6. Re:GREAT! Please help me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The scariest thing about Girls is that Lena Dunham naked isn't the worst of it. The inane plot(s) and the supremely irritating characters you have to endure make the sight of a naked Lena look positively mundane.

  3. Erase this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Slashdot Beta will vastly improve your web browsing experience!

    1. Re:Erase this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      if you combine it with SystemD then it would be even better.

  4. Good. by aliquis · · Score: 1

    Now the Muslims don't have to stop attacking us and the ruling elite doesn't have to stop taking power away from us.

    All that is needed is some viruses and scientists shining light into our brains and they can both just continue as they do.

  5. It works. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I used to be afraid of President Trump, now I just laugh at him.

  6. So basically... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kill some brain cells, same as a frontal lobotomy.

  7. Opening for Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now they can just erase all of your racism. Coming soon to the new pixel. If you're offended just press undo.

  8. DIY Jihadis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The military applications sure are interesting. Any country could easily form their own suicide corps. Take inmates, remove their fear of death, instill a fear of disobedience, then program them for the one and only mission, and let 'er rip! You could also replace a kidney with an explosive or a can of nerve gas while you are at it. Set it to blow as soon as the carrier's heart stops, and give them a cyanide tooth.

    I think, maybe I read too much.

    1. Re:DIY Jihadis by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Wom't work, A pathological fear of disobedience extends far beyond the immediate subject of their fear. Better to find people who are going to die of terminal disease anyway. Give their kids $1 million if they succeed in their mission. That should motivate them a bit.

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
  9. Even if you had been in a traumatic event by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would you want this? It seems like a good way for someone to seriously injure themselves or other people.

  10. Did the mice still hear it though? by Hentes · · Score: 1

    How do we know that the mice didn't just become deaf?

    1. Re:Did the mice still hear it though? by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      AIUI the pathway that's "depotentiated" isn't the actual hearing the sound (so it's not that they became deaf), nor the storage of the memory (so TFA is wrong), but the connection between the two. In other words, the mice still hear the sound, but their brain doesn't check for memories associated with that stimulus, so although the memory is still there it isn't accessed and the logical response is not triggered.

    2. Re:Did the mice still hear it though? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do we know that the mice didn't just become deaf?

      Because the mice react to sounds both before and after.
      There is one particular and specific sound they stop reacting to in one specific way, but all other sounds are still reacted to.

      You are basically claiming a situation such as:
      - I call you on the phone, you hear the ringer and answer the phone, and hold a conversation.
      - Thing happens and you are now deaf
      - Afterwards I call you on the phone, you hear the ringer and still answer the phone, and still hold a conversation.

      Nothing in the above would indicate you have gone deaf, in fact quite the opposite.

      You will need to also postulate the exact method you are able to know the phone is ringing such that it results in you answering it when it does while deaf, as well as at least one method by which you are holding a conversation and responding to purely audio-only cues while doing so, while deaf.

      If you can provide some method these mice are responding to all sounds but one while in a state of being deaf, such that we can test it by ruling out whatever non-sound non-audible process you believe is alerting the mice that a sound has occurred, which can function without the ability to hear, and that results in the exact same outcome as hearing the sound would... Then we can entertain your claim a bit more.

  11. Electric shock was nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Suddenly electric shock became the least of their problems after they had their skulls cracked open and brains exposed to low frequency light.

  12. Useless. by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    What if you're afraid of quiet stuff?

  13. Is this even desirable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if they just end up experiencing various terrors-of-the-soul afresh?

  14. What's *More* Frightening, IMO by BlueStrat · · Score: 0

    If this method of genetic modification to a negative fear response is possible, can a previously non-existent or low-level fear be amplified? How about other areas of the brain controlling other factors like emotion, cognition, etc? Submissiveness? Critical-thinking ability? Tendency to join group-think?

    Lots of Dystopian possibilities, especially since it is accomplished through a virus, which would seem to lend itself to wide & rapid dissemination. How difficult would it be for terrorists or a rogue nation to acquire the capabilities?

    Not sure the answers to many of these questions are going to help me sleep better at night.

    Strat

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    1. Re:What's *More* Frightening, IMO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry. The only thing here is bullshit.

      You might as well worry about the pending invasion of the lizard people from the hollow earth. They're both equally likely to happen.

    2. Re:What's *More* Frightening, IMO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry. The only thing here is bullshit.

      You might as well worry about the pending invasion of the lizard people from the hollow earth. They're both equally likely to happen.

      I know, right?

      Next thing you know, these kooks will be talking about sending a man to the moon, hahahaha!

  15. Great, another method for making psychopaths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like we don't have enough already. Now we can zap their memories and the psychiatrists will put them back on the streets to entertain the press further.

  16. TAHITI. by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 1

    Is it a magical place?

  17. I used to fear big brother by dyfet · · Score: 1

    ...but after visiting the ministry of thought i don't remember why...

    1. Re:I used to fear big brother by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Total Recall. Because we can remember it for you wholesale :-)

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
  18. Before we go that far ... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    Before we go that far, almost everyone here needs to get rid of the memories of tubgirl and goatse.cx. And the h - o - s - t - s - - f - i - l - e guy. How about that first?

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    "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
  19. Soon... by SCVonSteroids · · Score: 1

    The mice are bound to take over.

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    I tend to rant.
    1. Re:Soon... by Zanadou · · Score: 1

      The same thing we do every night, Pinky.

    2. Re:Soon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take over the word!

  20. IFEAR (tm) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I fear ! Memories of Fear Could Be Permanently Erased!!!
    There was fear only the fear of fear itself.
    Now! Fear Memories Erased! Fear!
    More better bigger stronger fear.
    Hidding on yo jammies waiting to prounce.

  21. A virus? Yea I like the idea of erasing but.. by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

    What are the risks??

  22. Would you really want to though? by zifn4b · · Score: 1

    If I recall that when I touched a hot stove, it burned and hurt that makes me want to avoid doing it again in the future. We are animals. Everything we think, do, etc. has a survival motive even fear. I seriously doubt that scientists will discover a way to make us into a better evolutionary hot mess. It's more likely they will cause more harm than good by trying.

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    We'll make great pets