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The Windows App Store is Full of Pirate Streaming Apps (torrentfreak.com)

Ernesto Van der Sar, reporting for TorrentFreak: When we were browsing through the "top free" apps in the Windows Store, our attention was drawn to several applications that promoted "free movies" including various Hollywood blockbusters such as "Wonder Woman," "Spider-Man: Homecoming," and "The Mummy." Initially, we assumed that a pirate app may have slipped past Microsoft's screening process. However, the 'problem' doesn't appear to be isolated. There are dozens of similar apps in the official store that promise potential users free movies, most with rave reviews. Most of the applications work on multiple platforms including PC, mobile, and the Xbox. They are pretty easy to use and rely on the familiar grid-based streaming interface most sites and services use. Pick a movie or TV-show, click the play button, and off you go. The sheer number of piracy apps in the Windows Store, using names such as "Free Movies HD," "Free Movies Online 2020," and "FreeFlix HQ," came as a surprise to us. In particular, because the developers make no attempt to hide their activities, quite the opposite.

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  1. So its like all the app stores by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whats the news here?

    1. Re:So its like all the app stores by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft did it, so the grognards will be quick to shit on them for a problem common to all of them.

      2017 year of the pirate linux media streaming on the app store desktop
      2018 year of perl 6 powering the world wide web

    2. Re:So its like all the app stores by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      That the Windows app store still sucks badly.

      I can't even find a decent epub reader for Windows. Sadly the Windows version of FBReader seems to be abandonware, and about the best I see is the Kobo app, which naturally wants me to connect to the Kobo bookstore (I have an account but haven't bought anything off of them in about three years). For my 8" Windows tablet I'm relegated to using the Nox Android virtual machine so I can actually have access to some decent apps.

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    3. Re: So its like all the app stores by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're bitching about app store diversity now too?

      You have a problem, friend. Seek help.

    4. Re: So its like all the app stores by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chuck the windows trash out the window and get an $80 android tablet.

    5. Re:So its like all the app stores by Rhipf · · Score: 1

      Just use the Kobo app. You have an account but don't need to buy anything to read other ebooks. Just load the ebooks onto your device and have Kobo search the device for ebooks then import the ones you want into Kobo. This is what I have been doing since I got my tablet (admittedly I have an Android tablet but I can't see the Windows Kobo app being all that different).
      If you have bought books from Kobo in the past they will probably want to load onto the device as well but you can just delete them after they are loaded.

    6. Re:So its like all the app stores by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

      By "all the app stores" you mean it really only mean the Windows app store. I fail to find pirate apps among the top 10 free apps in Google Play where it is a mix of different types or iTunes where it's also mostly games. But feel free to live in your alternate reality.

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    7. Re:So its like all the app stores by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      I can't even find a decent epub reader for Windows.

      There's the Nook app in the Windows Store. I think Microsoft maintains it itself.

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    8. Re:So its like all the app stores by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      Calibre's content servers has a built in reader now, you use the browser and can open the book inside the browser and read in a very functional interface.

    9. Re:So its like all the app stores by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      That the Windows app store still sucks badly.

      That hasn't been news for the last 5 years.

  2. The what? "Windows Store"? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is Microsoft still trying to push some kind of app store on Windows users? Has anyone really been there yet?

    1. Re: The what? "Windows Store"? by slazzy · · Score: 4, Funny

      All 3 zune users love it, apparently it "plays for sure!"

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  3. It's a nightmare. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The windows App Store is a terrible thing for corporate it. People want it and we of course have to be the bad guy and say no but there's no good software in there save for a couple new office 365 tools that ms won't release as win32 packages.

    It's a wasteland of copyright infringement and blatant theft of trade dress. There's no way in hell I'd give my systems access to it, but I have no problem letting company devices use apples or googles stores because it is far better controlled.

    Apple and google stores are not perfect on this front but MS is a joke.

    1. Re:It's a nightmare. by jawtheshark · · Score: 2

      People want it

      [citation needed]

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    2. Re:It's a nightmare. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed on the public MS store. You can though, as a business, enable store for business. Then you control what content is shown. A lot of management overhead. But you can put in there just the titles that you want to be available for your employees. It isn't very robust yet. Still really only works for free apps at this point because it requires credit card purchase and most enterprise customers need P.O. purchase. It also doesn't do OPCO support for larger businesses. But it is there. We recently turned it on for our users and put about 7 or 8 apps into it and setup a request process for people to ask for more. Much better than enabling the public store.

  4. Malware Heaven by Tukz · · Score: 2

    And how many of these DOESN'T contain malware?

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    1. Re:Malware Heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how many of these DOESN'T contain malware?

      It's not like Android app stores where the Malware is an optional extra. The malware, spying and control by an evil corporation (one of the winningest one too) comes built into the operating system so there's no actual need to include it in the apps. Of course, don't worry; if you support malware diversity you'll find plenty of variety in the optional malware which does come with the apps.

    2. Re:Malware Heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      "Don't" is the word you're looking for.

    3. Re: Malware Heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My first thought was honeypots.

    4. Re:Malware Heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Don't" is the word you're looking for.

      No it aren't!

    5. Re:Malware Heaven by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      That's heavily overstating what Google does, but I get it, this is all about whatabouttery.

      The fact is that the Apple and Google app stores are pretty goddamned successful, and Microsoft's is simply an abortion that Microsoft itself seems to have no idea what to do with, and most certainly is putting few resources into policing. In other words, the Microsoft store, where it's noted at all, is noted as yet another colossal failure.

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    6. Re:Malware Heaven by tepples · · Score: 3, Interesting

      UWP apps from Windows Store run in a container that restricts how much damage malware can do. For extra protection, spin up a copy of Windows 10 in a virtual machine. But I concede that most users aren't going to be using a VM, and many apps are built with Desktop Bridge instead of UWP.

      So to protect users even further, you can set the takedown process in motion. Download each app, search for X-Men films, and report them to Fox. Then search for Star Wars and Avengers films and report them to Disney. Then search for DC films and the other Avengers and report them to Warner Bros.

    7. Re:Malware Heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No need; it's already baked into the OS.

    8. Re: Malware Heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who would waste their time doing this. Why help the copyright cartel.

    9. Re:Malware Heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's heavily overstating what Google does, but I get it, this is all about whatabouttery.

      The fact is that the Apple and Google app stores are pretty goddamned successful, and Microsoft's is simply an abortion that Microsoft itself seems to have no idea what to do with, and most certainly is putting few resources into policing. In other words, the Microsoft store, where it's noted at all, is noted as yet another colossal failure.

      Actually it was mostly a joke based on the way that MS Windows now comes with most of the features of malware - the ability to spy on you and the ability to remote control your computer, not to mention the ability to lose all your data - ready built in to the operating system. If I was thinking of any particular Android app store, it was the alternative ones in China which honestly do distribute a fair proportion of malware.

  5. Britain by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perhaps Britain should declare war on Windows the same way they have on Kodi. It would make at least as much sense.

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    1. Re:Britain by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It would make more sense. Kodi bans illegal plugins while MS is hosting them on it's app store. The insane crusade against Kodi makes zero sense. Android, Windows and other systems host piracy apps and do less to discourage it than Kodi does.

    2. Re:Britain by Bert64 · · Score: 2

      Well that's the thing, windows is "too big to fail", so it gets a free pass in areas where others are heavily scrutinised.

      For instance, PCI DSS requirement 8.2.1 says:

      8.2.1 Using strong cryptography, render all authentication credentials (such as passwords/phrases) unreadable during transmission and storage on all system components.

      Windows stores user passwords using the NTLM algorithm, which is based on MD4... This is not considered "Strong cryptography", i believe PCI defines acceptable "strong cryptography" elsewhere in the standard and in doing so explicitly rule out a number of older algorithms.

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    3. Re:Britain by segedunum · · Score: 1

      I get the feeling the crusade against Kodi has come about because many don't like the competition.

    4. Re:Britain by Lanforod · · Score: 2

      Well that's the thing, windows is "too big to fail", so it gets a free pass in areas where others are heavily scrutinised.

      For instance, PCI DSS requirement 8.2.1 says:

      8.2.1 Using strong cryptography, render all authentication credentials (such as passwords/phrases) unreadable during transmission and storage on all system components.

      Windows stores user passwords using the NTLM algorithm, which is based on MD4... This is not considered "Strong cryptography", i believe PCI defines acceptable "strong cryptography" elsewhere in the standard and in doing so explicitly rule out a number of older algorithms.

      If someone is trying to comply with PCI requirements and is not using Active Directory, that's a problem right from the start. Using Active Directory changes the password storage to AES (kerberos).

    5. Re:Britain by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      No it doesn't, the passwords are still stored using NTLM, kerberos is only used at the network layer... Don't confuse NTLM authentication with NTLM password hash storage, they are two different (but closely interdependent) things.

      Try running any of the many password hash dumping tools on your domain controller and see what you get out, crackmapexec is good for this.

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  6. Windows app store just junk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I compare the Windows app store to going to a garage sale. It's just a bunch of stuff people didn't want but still want to recoup some money out of it.
    My issue with Microsoft has always been, good ideals that are poorly implemented and their modeling seems backwards doing things like Windows 10S before creating a livable store for apps. Or creating a workable mobile OS before launching mobile phones that simply are not impressive. Whoever does planning at Microsoft is completely backwards in priorities.

    1. Re:Windows app store just junk by tepples · · Score: 1

      their modeling seems backwards doing things like Windows 10S before creating a livable store for apps.

      How many apps were available when Apple's App Store launched alongside iPhone OS 2.0?

  7. Don't install creimer's diet app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't work.

  8. This is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come on, how can this be new to anybody.

    Are you living under a rock?

    1. Re:This is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of us have not used the Windows store. The first thing one does with a Windows installation nowadays is to turn off Windows store, Cortana and the other Microsoft spywares. Previously one just removed the sound theme, reduced title bar height and the machine was ready for work.

  9. Does anybody really care by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think the news here is that someone actually browsed the Windows Store

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    1. Re:Does anybody really care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, and who on earth would even watch those remakes and sequels of crappy movies which are being pirated there?

    2. Re:Does anybody really care by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      In a world where even The Emoji Movie grosses over $120 million, a lot of people.

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    3. Re:Does anybody really care by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Come on now, all that means is there's a lot of people with shit taste.

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    4. Re:Does anybody really care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes when I'm too quick I accidentally hit that stupid icon.

      Seriously, the last...3 (?) times I launched the Windows Store app, that was exactly the reason.

    5. Re:Does anybody really care by Noishkel · · Score: 1

      Does anyone actually use a lot of Apps on the Windows store? No one in my circle use it AT ALL. Not. One. Single. App. In fact most of the people in my personal circle either stuck with 7 or use complete third party shell replacements for 8.1. Several of them completely gutted all app functionality to get ride of unwanted features.

      Admit it Microsoft. To a lot of us you really screwed up. And just alienating your user base with forced changes to the US is starting to piss us off. You are not hegemonic as you think, and you WILL be replaced if you keeping ignoring us.

  10. Proof! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Proof that nobody bothers with the Windows app store. If even the RIAA/MPAA don't bother with it, you know it's dead.

  11. So? by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

    (An advertisement for Windows?)

    Still not going to run Windows on my PC.

    Got rid of that chain 10 years ago. Not going to shackle myself again.

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  12. Easy answer - right in front of us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Free Software and/or Open Source Software

  13. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gotta promote at the bottom somehow, right?

  14. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See even Microsoft doesn't care much about it. Their own employees don't look at it enough to remove illegal apps.

  15. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

    The thing is, Microsoft have a TV and movies section to compete with iTunes/play/amazon.

    Pirate apps would thus deprive them of revenue.

  16. Copyright Infringing Streaming App? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps msmash meant to use the term copyright infringing streaming app. That is the correct legal definition.

    Using the word "pirate" to describe "copyright infringement" frames the argument. Any first year debate student understands the tactic.

    I prefer my news to be factual and free of biased terms.

    1. Re: Copyright Infringing Streaming App? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using the word "pirate" to describe "copyright infringement" frames the argument. Any first year debate student understands the tactic.

      So that's like something 0.01% of people understand.

      Bravo.

    2. Re: Copyright Infringing Streaming App? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd guess more than .01% of the population understands propaganda.

  17. This is modded funny, but is actually true. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If the RIAA/MPAA aren't filing takedowns on this software, then the only two reasons that make any sense are:
    A. Nobody browses the Windows Store, even the RIAA/MPAA orMicrosoft's 'content monitoring' team.
    B. These apps are up there to provide a source of illegal services so that Microsoft's remoting monitoring and anti-piracy services can flag the end users in order to send more of those copyright infringement shakedown letters to people who are both stupid enough to still be using windows, and doubly stupid enough to be using 'free video' apps from the Windows store (no doubt being mentally handicapped enough to be unable to install software the old fashioned way, or do install steam, gog, or another media download service that already provides alternatives.)

    1. Re:This is modded funny, but is actually true. by Bert64 · · Score: 2

      Or:

      C. Microsoft know full well they are there, but they realise that piracy is a significant way to grow the user base, so they intentionally let it slide hoping it will get more users locked in.

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  18. Say it ain't so by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's also apps called 'browsers' who can be used to buy knives, guns, viruses, chemicals, bomb-building materials, cars to run people over..., not only apps violating some imaginary 'intellectual' 'property'.

    1. Re:Say it ain't so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumb shit like this still being modded up in 2017.

      Welcome to Idiocracy.

    2. Re:Say it ain't so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, if I buy a blu-ray disc from a store, and the MPAA sues me for copyright infringement, then I can probably shift the blame to the store where I bought it. It's just not clear which of multiple possible analogies applies to the Windows Store.

  19. I/O by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    That's good news. Usually, the malware is inside Windows ; now it's outside.

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  20. Who Doesn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who doesn't want a continuous stream of rapey pirates issuing from their device?

  21. Uh.. this isn't Debian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I pretty much spoiled it with the subject line, but when you get to this point of the article, it's obvious why the "problem" is happening:

    Initially, we assumed that a pirate app may have slipped past Microsoft’s screening process.

    WTF is a screening process? Why would Microsoft have one?

    Last I saw, there are two important things going on with MS Windows:

    1) Nobody gives the slightest fuck about quality. If you need quality software, it would never occur to you to use MS Windows. The bar is low.

    2) Windows doesn't require its users to use a centralized repository the way that iOS does. The Windows Store is merely a reaction to Apple's store, not something that users want or need.

    It would not make any sense at all for Microsoft to be "screening" the software on the Windows store. Users don't care about it, and on a platform with such low standards, nobody is asking for it. There simply isn't any incentive at all.

    And that's ok. Caveat emptor. Microsoft doesn't owe their users any sort of "don't get yourself in trouble" help. It's up to the users to figure out which video apps are legal (and therfore probably "safe") and which are pirate (and therefore exposes users to liability). That isn't Microsoft's concern. If the users wanted to stay out of trouble, they wouldn't be using Windows in the first place, since Windows is the platform to go to, if you want to become part of someone's botnet.

    If you want screening, use Debian or a derivative. And even then, screening can only take on certain forms (basic qualities, security, etc); you can't assume that your copy of rsync or whatever, has been vetted by a lawyer as not being able to pirate. Ultimately, for any platform, it's up to the user.

    1. Re:Uh.. this isn't Debian by Bert64 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      There's a difference between something like rsync, which *can* be used to download pirated content, and "Free HD Movie Player" which is designed specifically to do so.

      You are spot on about the quality aspect, windows is extremely poor quality software and its users have very low expectations as a result. Regular crashing and malware outbreaks are considered normal and unavoidable...

      But windows *does* badly need a properly vetted store, because it is *claiming* to be suitable for average users when clearly this is not the case.

      If you're an android, ios or (most distros) linux user, you don't need much knowledge to be able to install software - you select what you want to install from the repository provided to you by the system and you'll be safe.
      If your a windows user, you not only require significantly more effort/knowledge to find the installation files and manually run through the installer, but you also need to be sufficiently clued up to verify the source of those files.
      My grandma can manage to safely install software on an ios, android or ubuntu... She wouldn't be able to do it safely on windows.

      People say this about linux all the time, but truly it's windows that's not ready for the desktop. It's only suitable for geeks who understand what they're doing.

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    2. Re:Uh.. this isn't Debian by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      You are simply an ideologue shilling your propaganda.

      It gets tiresome. Just settle down and enjoy using what you prefer and stop proselytizing to the rest of the world.

    3. Re: Uh.. this isn't Debian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Name one thing that he states above that could be considered propaganda. Thank you. I see nothing but truths in his statements.

  22. I find it surprising by sgrover · · Score: 4, Funny

    That the term "blockbuster" and "The Mummy" appeared in the same sentence together. That movie received much hype from the studious but absolutely none from anyone else. To be honest I forgot it existed. Maybe it's mentioned in the pirating apps because that is the only way anyone would ever want to see it?? hmm..

    1. Re:I find it surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Mummy was a blockbuster in 1999 ... maybe that's what they meant :p

    2. Re:I find it surprising by sgrover · · Score: 1

      It must be. That one was decent for the time. Overplayed on cable these days though...The death knell of any good movie.

    3. Re:I find it surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shows up on Svenghouli from time to time.

  23. Who writes this crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the applications work on multiple platforms including PC, mobile, and the Xbox.

    That's hilarious that they think of those examples, combined, as "multiple platforms." You damn well know that it doesn't just work on PCs; it's going to be Windows-specific PCs. Mobile is also going to be Windows too, and you won't find a shred of software for iOS or Android in the Windows store. This is basically about one platform. You can be charitable and say xbox is a second, but you are stretching to do Microsoft a favor when you do it, and everyone sees through your bullshit.

  24. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HAHAH!! Micro$oft, AMARIGHT?

    And how about that airline food, boy does it suck!!! HAHAHA!!

  25. Torrentfreak get shut down for it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So why not the Windows system?

    Hence the reason why this is something worth reporting.

    But, hey, you gotta get your hate-on and fit in with the "cool kids", don't you?

    1. Re:Torrentfreak get shut down for it. by tepples · · Score: 1

      How did "Torrentfreak get shut down"? TorrentFreak is a news site about file sharing and Internet privacy. It hosts the featured article, and this article is still viewable in the United States.

      Might you have confused TorrentFreak with a site that actually hosts, links to, or tracks infringing torrents?

  26. It's news to the court system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who close down "pirate sites" because it's got rampant piracy, even if there is every attempt to keep piracy off it, but do not apparently know that windows app store is a far worse rampant pirate site, as shown by the fact that it's still open and Microsoft are not in the dock for trillions of dollars of infringement.

    So, yes, it IS news.

  27. Very confusing article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would I go to the Windows App store to get free HD films when I can already get those in The Pirate Bay? /sarcasm

    I think the poster is venting because they wasted precious time of their lives believing piracy is the end of creative content.

    Let me play you a sad tune on this here fine cassette player, I recorded it from the radio. -no doubt it lost billions over the years.

    (Almost posted without a much needed (by some) sarcasm flag. Phew!)

  28. because the developers make no attempt to hide... by drewsup · · Score: 4, Funny

    I beg to differ, they hid them in the best place possible, the MS App store! Guaranteed to not be seen by anyone!
    I would have posted this on my Lumia 635, but as the browser keeps crashing, as it's ALWAYS done, had to post my Mint laptop.

  29. C) Windows has cash and lawyers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Therefore not a target to go after, since there is no cash to be made and only the possibility of angering a "content provider" that plays ball with inserting trusted path that doesn't trust you, the owner, with the computer you bought. Piss MS off and they may not push such malware on all Windows OS users.

  30. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by Bert64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Piracy has always been microsoft's biggest ally...
    They may pay lip service to anti-piracy efforts, but were it not for piracy microsoft wouldn't be in the position they are in today. Microsoft depend on lock-in and inertia, and a huge proportion of those users who are locked in got that way with pirate versions.

    If you couldn't pirate windows or its applications, then millions of users would have found something else that they could obtain for free, which would likely have resulted in millions more linux users. Many users can't or won't pay for software, and in eastern europe, asia and africa pretty much all software is pirated.

    If there were that many active linux users, there would be very little (if any) windows specific software out there, it would be much easier for users in the west to switch away from windows and many would do so. windows if it still existed at all would end up as an expensive niche brand, rather like osx is, running on expensive niche hardware.

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  31. Distinguishing torrents from Atari v. Nestle by tepples · · Score: 1

    There are two different practical meanings of "copyright infringement".

    • One is common in news sites about torrents and movie streaming sites and the like, which attempt to provide a complete, exact copy or performance of someone else's work.
    • The other happens when someone creates a different work but elements are alleged to be too similar to someone else's work, as in the recent story "Kit Kat Accused of Copying Atari Game Breakout".

    The mainstream media often uses the term "piracy" for the former but not the latter. What unbiased term would you use to unambiguously refer to each of these two different shades of copying?

  32. Windows 10 S by tepples · · Score: 1

    Windows doesn't require its users to use a centralized repository the way that iOS does.

    Windows 8 did not. Windows RT did. Windows 10 does not. Windows 10 S does.

    It would not make any sense at all for Microsoft to be "screening" the software on the Windows store. Users don't care about it, and on a platform with such low standards, nobody is asking for it. There simply isn't any incentive at all.

    The incentive for "screening" is to avoid liability for contributory and/or vicarious infringement on the part of developers who publish their apps to the Store.

    1. Re:Windows 10 S by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Nobody really runs Windows 10S. It's the ChromeBook in the Windows universe. Some schools use it to restrict what their pupils can load.

  33. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by Ksevio · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I went there once. I was using the new calculator and wanted to report how much it sucked, so I tried the feedback button. Then windows told me it didn't know how to handle it and told me to check the app store. The app store couldn't find anything to do either, so I eventually found the windows 7 calculator from a 3rd party source

  34. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

    So you're saying that even with giving Linux away for free, people prefer to pirate Windows.

    That's an odd thing for an advocate to be asserting.

  35. The content cartels keep trying to get it blocked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look at how they have to keep leaping from supplier to supplier to keep going. Yes, they've not yet been shut down completely. Then again, neither has TPB, but plenty of other places have been closed.

    Torrentfreak is a problem since it doesn't allow the RIAA stance to go unchallenged.

    It's an issue because Torrentfreak get hassled and there's nothing being done to microsoft's actual endorsement of piracy.

  36. Re:because the developers make no attempt to hide. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    You shouldn't have tried to install Linux on your Lumia 635. Now it's buggy and unstable.

  37. Uh-huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, MS says that if use there fancy Store, stuff like this doesn't happen.

    This just proves app stores are a bad idea regardless of OS.

  38. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you're saying that piracy is good for closed source software. That's an odd thing for an advocate of copyright to be asserting.

    You sure you want to undo the copyright laws like that?

  39. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Is Microsoft still trying to push some kind of app store on Windows users? Has anyone really been there yet?

    I've been there - both on the PC & phone versions of the store, & both are equally worthless. Most of the popular apps that are advertized are not there on either, and the ones that are happen to be pretty worthless!

    Not only is Windows 10 Mobile dead, I suspect the same is almost true of Windows 10 on the desktop. My next desktop/laptop will be a Mac.

  40. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by farble1670 · · Score: 1

    If you couldn't pirate windows or its applications, then millions of users would have found something else that they could obtain for free, which would likely have resulted in millions more linux users. Many users can't or won't pay for software, and in eastern europe, asia and africa pretty much all software is pirated.

    Nonsense, at least when it comes to Windows proper. Pirating Windows 7 involved binary hacks and crap like unplugging the internet during activation, and blocking certain patches that would have negated it. MSFT did a pretty thorough job.

    Like any anti-piracy scheme, it's a cost benefit tradeoff. How much engineering time do you want to put it, and how much can you inconvenience your users? Whatever you do, if there's a will, there will be a way.

  41. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by farble1670 · · Score: 1

    I suspect the same is almost true of Windows 10 on the desktop

    If you play PC games, you run Windows. There's no change to that on the horizon.

  42. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't seem very good at pirating. Here's how most people pirate Win7:
    Step 1: Run DAZ loader and click the big activate button
    Step 2; There is no step 2, you're already done...

  43. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by farble1670 · · Score: 1

    Whooooosh.

    What do you think that loader does? You know, computers are good at automated steps, especially when it only involves writing data to files.

  44. Make your own movies with blackjack+hookers by tepples · · Score: 1

    Why help the copyright cartel.

    To help build outrage in the general public as a means of encouraging them to make their own movies instead of relying on those produced by the cartel.

  45. Re: The what? "Windows Store"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Linux World is essentially a void, an unknown and a hostile place even to a lot of tech savvies. People just don't want to bother with too much technicality so they stick with Windows and pirate a lot of things. Without knowing there are actually better open source alternatives, I for one have tried to find the perfect Windows music player paid or not they all suck. Not until I went with open source and found Cantata.

  46. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only thing that the windows store offers is updates to programs that happen without me having to click anything. Similar to how apps are updated on android tv

  47. Re:because the developers make no attempt to hide. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does your 635 have Windows 10 on it? Theoretically not compatible unless you have the near-unobtainium 1G RAM version, but it works (thru Insider). 8 (when not using the browser) was more stable and could shoot vids, but 10 is cleaner otherwise (and the browser works) in between the weekly reboot. But then ... I mostly use it as just a phone/text/email device, so the lack of enough RAM doesn't really get in the way.

    Does Linux actually work on a 635? In particular, does it still work as a phone? With Win10 support for 1511 (the last version of 10 that works on the 635) ending this fall, and the hardware still working, an alternative would be useful ... the main one otherwise being several $100 for an Android that will have to be thrown away in a year or 2.

  48. Re:because the developers make no attempt to hide. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you sure that's the browser crashing? Or is it the Slashdot mobile site?

  49. Re:The what? "Windows Store"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can always download, use SpeedCrunch: http://www.speedcrunch.org/, it's free, open source, and powerful.

  50. Re: The what? "Windows Store"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I liked my ZuneHD. It work really well. Had a couple of fun games on it.

    Now the Zune software needed to upload songs to it was a pile of steaming shit. Guess they wanted to be feature complete with iTunes.