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Scientists Create Smart Labels To Tell You When To Throw Away Expired Food and Makeup (sciencemag.org)

At the 254th National Meeting and Exposition of the American Chemical Society, researchers are presenting a low-cost, portable, paper-based sensor that can let you know when to toss food and cosmetics. The sensor can detect antioxidants in tea and wine, and be used to explore remote locations, such as the Amazon rainforest, in search of natural sources of antioxidants. "I've always been interested in developing technologies that are accessible to both industry and the general population," Silvana Andreescu, Ph.D., says. "My lab has built a versatile sensing platform that incorporates all the needed reagents for detection in a piece of paper. At the same time, it is adaptable to different targets, including food contaminants, antioxidants and free radicals that indicate spoilage." Phys.Org reports: What sets Andreescu's sensors apart from others, she says, are the nanostructures they use to catch and bind to compounds they're looking for. "Most people working on similar sensors use solutions that migrate on channels," Andreescu says. "We use stable, inorganic particles that are redox active. When they interact with the substances we want to detect, they change color, and the intensity of the change tells us how concentrated the analyte is." Additionally, because all of the reagents needed to operate the device are incorporated in the paper, users don't need to add anything other than the sample being tested. The American Chemical Society has published a video detailing the sensor. Their paper has been published in the journal Analyst.

74 comments

  1. IOT Cheese by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Just don't make my cheese IOT. I don't want a hacker tricking me into eating mold if I get lazy, drunk, and/or Monday'd.

    1. Re: IOT Cheese by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      we do have a "smart" fridge that the housekeeper takes care of but a "smart" bathroom. how do you spell $divorce.

    2. Re:IOT Cheese by AndyKron · · Score: 1

      Mold gives cheese an earthy flavor like a musty sock. Some people like it.

    3. Re:IOT Cheese by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's healthy to eat mold, at least not in volume.

      "Foods that are moldy may also have invisible bacteria growing along with the mold. Yes, some molds cause allergic reactions and respiratory problems. And a few molds, in the right conditions, produce "mycotoxins," poisonous substances that can make you sick."

      ( https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/... )

    4. Re:IOT Cheese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the cheese companies had their way, there would be a timer device to release mould spores on the "expiry" date. Forced obsolescence for food.

    5. Re:IOT Cheese by davester666 · · Score: 1

      I don't need even more notifications that I ignore...

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    6. Re:IOT Cheese by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Molds also give us bread and alcoholic beverages. Of course, given what too much of either will do to you, perhaps you have a point.

    7. Re:IOT Cheese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe you could just read the expiration date on the label and not eat it?

      Seriously, this is a solution in search of a problem that was fixed decades ago. Worse, it increases costs because of the ink label being replaced with silicon and extra testing for sensors.... We don't need the Internet of Food, we need a competent engineer to tell these marketing idiots to spend the company's money responsibly.

    8. Re:IOT Cheese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, mold doesn't give us bread and alcoholic beverages. Mold and yeast are different types of fungi. Mold grow in the form of multi-cellular hyphae, while yeasts don't.

      And yeast, obviously, is what gives us bread and alcoholic beverages.

    9. Re: IOT Cheese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scientists don't know when those things should be thrown away. But at least we have a label for it!

  2. And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by gweihir · · Score: 1, Interesting

    But apparently, we are now preparing for a population that becomes illiterate. Sure, expiry dates have some leeway, but people figure these out. Also, sensors can only tell when it is already bad and standard human sensors do a pretty good job of that as well.

    Sounds like yet another product that nobody needs and that will just serve to create more garbage.

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    1. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      I thought they were referring to leftovers. If so, this might be an improvement over the "Is it growing hair? If not, it's edible!" system some of us currently use.

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    2. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by JohnFen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Expiry dates don't really work. You can't know in advance when food is going to go bad, because it depends very, very heavily on things like the conditions under which it has been stored.

    3. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, the ordinary person's sense of smell and taste is incredibly good at telling if food is inedibly spoiled.

      With only a tiny number of exceptions, if food smells OK and doesn't taste funny, it's safe.

    4. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you've missed the point. Sure you can do a sniff-test for out-of-date milk or a float-test for eggs, but this is a way to avoid the need to do so and in principle at least applies to a wider variety of foods that are not trivial to check. Plus it might detect things you might miss - not all bacteria have an obvious smell, and not all are visible in the early stages (eg the salmonella that sometimes ends up on pre-made salads, frozen berries etc).

      And the waste side doesn't sound too bad - we're not talking some rube-goldberg sensor array, we're talking a bit of paper not unlike the old "indicator paper" from chem lab.

    5. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      You'd be surprised. For example, I find expiration dates for dairy products to be quite accurate. One day to expiration? tastes fine. Day of? wow, nasty.

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    6. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Yes, milk is an exception. That's probably why (in the US, anyway) milk is the only food product that is required to have an expiration date, and the date is standardized.

    7. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Depends on your fridge. I've found yogourt buried in the back of the fridge that was supposedly expired 90 days before, and it was just fine. Milk and eggs? Good for a month after the date. Just gotta keep your fridge cold enough.

      Drugs? They found a stash of medications that had been overlooked for between 30 and 40 years, so they were decades beyond their expiry dates. All were still within 90% of their original potency, and some were at 100%. The ones you have to be most careful of are some antibiotics such as tetracycline - it can become lethal. But even drugs like insulin still work just fine a year after the date if stored properly - and even when stored at room temperature work just fine well past the 1-month recommended "use after opening" date. With the elimination of cow and bovine insulin, and the extreme purity of GMO insulin, the stuff just doesn't deteriorate all that fast. Same like many foods, where modern quality control means you're far less likely to get something that will be bad by the best-before date.

      Peanut butter? About 5 years after the date before it goes rancid. Spare rib sauce? A decade - at least. I've got some from the turn of the century that made fantastic ribs this past spring. Stored in a cool, dark place, it just doesn't go bad.

      Stuff in the freezer? Frost-free fridges and freezers work by reversing the cooling cycle, heating up the internal coils to melt accumulated ice. It's the repeated heating and cooling and the corresponding changes in relative humidity that causes "freezer burn". Seal your stuff in plastic containers, because plastic wrap just isn't good enough, and allows the temperature fluctuations to come in direct contact with the food. Same as your ice cubes will sublimate - unless you put them in a sealed plastic container instead of leaving them in the ice cube trays.

      Then again, US milk is generally adulterated, which is why other countries limit imports of US dairy.

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    8. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Then again, US milk is generally adulterated, which is why other countries limit imports of US dairy.

      What do you mean by adulterated? Most milk in the USA is ultra-pasteurized, and has nothing added. Of course, using rBGH in cows increases illnesses that affect the udders, leading to substantial increases in the percentage of milk which is actually made up of pus...

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    9. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Antibiotics, for one. And the aforementioned growth hormones. Also, "ultra-pasteurized" and "ultra-filtered" don't mean anything wrt whether the milk is adulterated or not. It's not somehow "purer" - it's just marketing BS that is obviously effective at getting people to pay extra. Same as people are paying almost the same price for skim milk as for whole milk thinking it will help them get thin. Works just as well as those shopping carts with diet soft drinks and tons of junk food, because it "gives them permission" to eat more.

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    10. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by dasgoober · · Score: 1

      Yogurt is milk that's already spoiled, so the're not much else that can go wrong with it, unless it's ancient.
      Unless there's some sort of mold growth, the only thing that happens to old yogurt is that more water separates out, so you just need to stir it more.

    11. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Humans actually already have 3 sensors for that:
      Eyes, Nose, Tongue.

      Seems plenty of them forgot how to use them.

      Sounds like yet another product that nobody needs and that will just serve to create more garbage.
      Exactly.

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    12. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Yoghurt lasts for years ...
      Eggs in theory too, but I heard in the US they get frozen before they get on the market to kill germs. No idea f that is true. Obviously if they get stored so long they dry out.

      My favourite is always an "end of usage" date on salt. Facepalm.

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    13. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but I heard in the US they get frozen before they get on the market to kill germs. No idea f that is true

      No. No we do not freeze chicken eggs before they're sold at the market in the United States. Where on Earth did you get such an absurd idea? Freezing isn't a reliable method for killing the most common pathogen in eggs, salmonella, so it would be completely useless.

      You kill germs in eggs by COOKING them.

    14. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      But apparently, we are now preparing for a population that becomes illiterate. Sure, expiry dates have some leeway, but people figure these out. Also, sensors can only tell when it is already bad and standard human sensors do a pretty good job of that as well.

      Sounds like yet another product that nobody needs and that will just serve to create more garbage.

      Expiry dates have a LOT of leeway. Inf act, there's a reason most foods don't have expiry dates anymore - they have "Best before" dates, and that's not an expiry date. It's generally used as a sell-by date - if the store hasn't sold the product by then, it should be tossed.

      In fact, a lot of foods have an expiry or best before date that's legally mandated - the law states that after manufacture a certain food item has a date 3 months in the future, regardless of when it really goes bad. And there are a maximums - for most foods, it's 1 year from date of manufacture.

      About the only thing that had a real expiry date is most dairy products, where instead of "Best before" it says "Use by".

      Stuff like meat and all that is where this has real usefulness - there's no real test for whether or not it's "off", especially given some techniques of preparation intentionally "spoil" it. Plus since it's usually sold fresh at the store or buther's shop, there may be no real expiry date on it and there's no test you can do to see if ti's still good or not.

    15. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      leave it outside of fridge and it's nasty long before..

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    16. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by houghi · · Score: 1

      .... but the label says it isn't good anymore. It is past its sale date, so I should throw it away and buy new stuff, right?

      Oh wait, their customers are not the consumers. They are the companies that hope that people will throw away food sooner, so they buy food sooner.

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    17. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Only if the individual is healthy. Lots of people have impaired smell (allergies being the most common reason) and lots of people have weakened immune systems that can't tolerate things that a normal immune system could.

      That's why the use-by dates are so conservative. They have to account for poor quality refrigeration and the weakest members of society.

      If these labels are cheap and environmentally OK they could both save a lot of food waste and protect people better than use-by dates.

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    18. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Just because something is already fermented doesn't mean it can't go bad. Ever had a beer that had gone skunky? No amount of stirring will fix that. It's gross.

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    19. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by gtall · · Score: 1

      Also, older people tend to lose a bit of their sense of smell. And they can sometimes fail to recognize dangers their younger selves would have.

    20. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Ultra-pasteurized" is not marketing BS. It refers to higher temperature pasteurization process that makes it shelf-stable. Once opened, it also lasts substantially longer in the fridge than traditionally pasteurized milk.

      See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-temperature_processing

    21. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Obviously the eggs would crack if someone tried to freeze them, from the expansion of the contents when they freeze, since ice is less dense than water (which is why there's life on earth - if ice sank when it froze, the oceans would be solid ice to the bottom, and without the moderating influence of the water, we'd be an ice ball), same as a glass bottle or can of soda pop will expand. If you don't believe it, put a can of your favorite drink in the freezer and freeze it solid.

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    22. Re:And then, we could just have an expiry date.... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      It's still BS. You're still going to have to store it in the fridge after opening, and probably before first use, so why pay a premium for it (oh wait - that marketing bs convinces you to pay more). Also, it doesn't taste the same - as your link admits:

      UHT milk has seen large success in much of Europe, where across the continent as a whole 7 out of 10 Europeans drink it regularly.[12] In fact, in a hot country such as Spain, UHT milk is preferred due to high costs of refrigerated transportation and "inefficient cool cabinets".[13] UHT is less popular in Northern Europe and Scandinavia, particularly in Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden, the United Kingdom and Ireland. It is also less popular in Greece, where fresh pasteurized milk is the most popular type of milk. This may be largely due to the differential rates of lactose intolerance within Europe; populations with high tolerance can drink milk in large amounts, making the lower palatability of UHT milk more noticeable.

      The article also points out that it is otherwise degraded:

      Folate: UHT milk contains 1 g of folate per 100 g, while pasteurized milk contains 9 g

      Vitamin B12, vitamin C and thiamin: Some nutritional loss can occur in UHT milk

      So I stand by my claim that marketing is selling you an inferior product. Your link proves it, and personal experience shows that it tastes like watered-down crap. If you can't tell the difference, that's not my problem, because the article says it doesn't taste as good. Or maybe you're just lactose intolerant, so taste doesn't matter to you.

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  3. Nice idea by JohnFen · · Score: 1

    I hope that it works out.

    Food expiration dates stamped on products right now are worthless. It would be handy to have some actual indication of food going bad.

    Of course, I already have a pretty sensitive device to detect food spoilage: my nose. It works with a high degree of accuracy.

  4. What about a sensor clothing? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

    They should put expiration dates on clothing so we men will know when they go out of style. -- Garry Shandling

    Or maybe when they need laundering? :-J

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    1. Re:What about a sensor clothing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which? The clothes, or the men?

    2. Re:What about a sensor clothing? by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      The money collected selling these "smart labels" might need laundering at some point.

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    3. Re:What about a sensor clothing? by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      They should put expiration dates on clothing so we men will know when they go out of style.

      No need. In my experience, wives and girlfriends are quite good at letting you know when your style has expired.

    4. Re:What about a sensor clothing? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Washing? Save energy and make it less complicated. Do both at the same time. After all, if the clothes are sweaty, so is the guy.

      I worked with one geek who didn't wash his new jeans for more than a month - he said he didn't want to lose that "new jeans" finish. Even though they were so disgusting-looking and out of shape it looked like he had a couple of potatoes in the ass of his pants. And this guy is a germaphobe! His best-before date expired some time in childhood.

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    5. Re:What about a sensor clothing? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      But you generally still don't listen. Until they're literally falling apart (and sometimes even after) you won't throw them out or donate them "because". Like the underwear you won't throw out because when you were single you needed that ratty pair of underwear for "laundry day." (Mind you, women aren't completely immune to that last one - I knew one woman who actually stapled together one pair of panties that had split on one side so she had something to wear for laundry day. Seriously boys and girls, how hard is it to buy a dozen at a time and rotate them? "But I keep forgetting when I go to the store." You probably won't forget if you go shopping while wearing those stapled underwear. Not when you end up like a playboy centerfold pic, with a staple in your bellybutton :-) )

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    6. Re:What about a sensor clothing? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      No need. In my experience, ex-wives and ex-girlfriends are quite good at letting you know when your style has expired on the way out.

      FTFY

    7. Re: What about a sensor clothing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those holey undies are like veterans of wars we need to remember! They carried us through the fight. The least we can do is use them until they literally disintegrate.

  5. expiry dates are warnings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...not a diagnosis. "should be OK before" does not translate into "will be not OK after". check the food before wasting it!

    1. Re:expiry dates are warnings by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Actually, it translates to, "Will be OK for at least a week after this date." That's so that you can buy something on the last day and have some time to use it.

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    2. Re: expiry dates are warnings by aliquis · · Score: 2

      You try that with bread... atleast here. Enjoy.

  6. Just rely on your senses and stop wasting by guruevi · · Score: 1

    There is no such thing as wine or tea having too many antioxidants. Wine becomes vinegar and dry tea becomes less potent, but either is still usable years after "expiration" (just don't drink it).

    If you need a label to tell you your food is off, your food isn't off. Most foods are edible way past it's printed expiration date and if it's expired it turns weird colors and smells bad and we have very much evolved noses particularly sensitive to the byproducts of wasting food (which is why we notice sulfur and many acids (like vinegar) but cannot smell carbon monoxide or natural gas)

    I don't know of any cosmetics that would go 'bad', they pretty much all contain pure alcohol or some other non-spoiling products, I'd figure they dry out and become unusable or in the worst cases grow molds (and thus weird smells) before they become dangerous.

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    1. Re:Just rely on your senses and stop wasting by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I don't know of any cosmetics that would go 'bad', they pretty much all contain pure alcohol or some other non-spoiling products,

      The cosmetics industry is a leading consume of waste tallow. Lipsticks and other makeup products with similar consistency are typically made out of processed animal fats.

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    2. Re:Just rely on your senses and stop wasting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know of any cosmetics that would go 'bad', they pretty much all contain pure alcohol or some other non-spoiling products, I'd figure they dry out and become unusable or in the worst cases grow molds (and thus weird smells) before they become dangerous.

      Unused and unopened cosmetics are likely shelf stable for years. However, cosmetics such as mascara should be disposed of within three months of first use. Unless you want a very nasty eye infection.

      The issue is the product gets contaminated in the process of application. Other things like foundation, lipsticks etc hold up a bit better, but with those how they're stored is usually more of an issue with those.

    3. Re:Just rely on your senses and stop wasting by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Is that you Tyler Durden?

      Lipstick is primarily wax, not animal fat. The animal-makeup is mostly a PETA thing, there is no independent scientific source that confirms it because chemically speaking it would be ludicrous. Most (cheaper) makeups contain monoglycerides and diglycerides, the majority of animal fat is triglycerides only the most expensive makeups contain it and there it is generally rendered from coconut oil.

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    4. Re:Just rely on your senses and stop wasting by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      RE: Cosmetics. Some mascaras (the gunk used to enhance/thicken/lengthen eyelashes to you guys) can go moldy. It's pretty rare, but if you develop pink eye, it may be the source of some nasty bacteria or mold, and even if it isn't throw it out because you've cross-contaminated it if you've used it recently. That's one reason never to share mascara or eye liner. Even lipstick can be risky if the other person has a cold sore, etc. If someone wants to borrow it, just gift it to them.

      Then there are things like allergies and contact dermatitis, and environmental damage caused by using nanobeads in cosmetics, and all the dangerous chemicals listed here that are allowed because cosmetics don't undergo as rigorous testing and approval as, say, food or medicines (or gasoline).

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    5. Re:Just rely on your senses and stop wasting by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Most foods are edible way past it's printed expiration date and if it's expired it turns weird colors and smells bad and we have very much evolved noses particularly sensitive to the byproducts of wasting food

      I once tested this theory on a 5 year old jar of pickles (newly opened). I got sick so friggen fast. If you believe the above, go ahead and look directly at the sun also.

    6. Re:Just rely on your senses and stop wasting by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Correctly pickled foods should be good for decades, it will eventually become mushy and nasty-looking but if your pickled foods waste, it wasn't pickled right in the first place and again, if you see molds growing or it smells funky, don't eat it.

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  7. Dont eat yellow snow! by m2shariy · · Score: 0

    We really need a way to test if snow is not too yellow!

    1. Re:Dont eat yellow snow! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1, Troll

      We really need a way to test if snow is not too yellow!

      Speaking of yellow snow, Donald Trump was pissed off that someone had written "Donald Trump sucks" in the snow using piss. He demanded a full report. "Sir, the urine is Obama's. But the handwriting is Ivanka's."

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  8. I've already got a "skill" for that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's called my "nose". Now fuck off you software/trend weenies, go make something useful.

  9. What nonsense by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What next? A label that tells you what to eat, when you should eat it, and how you should eat it?

    1. Re:What nonsense by gtall · · Score: 1

      Just think of it as Clippy for food:

      Food Clippy: it looks like you want to eat that, are you sure you should do that?

      Human: It smells okay, looks okay.

      FC: Yeah well, I woudn't eat it.

      Human: You're a bot!

      FC: (sniff) That's cruel, go ahead and eat it, I won't care if you die.

      Human: (snarf...gag...thunk)

      FC: (snicker) Actually it went bad several days ago, I just thought it would be fun to watch you croak...bye fella!

  10. it turns weird colors and smells by n329619 · · Score: 1

    if it's expired it turns weird colors and smells

    nah, it's not expired. It's just a newly improved favor! When you eat them, you'll get a chance to taste the new favor, pain! Not only that, but you food will also get new colors that color your life with a week full of sick leaves! Imagine the possibilities!

  11. "It's still good!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Great, a label that tells someone when a food *really* goes bad. Doesn't matter, my mother would still think it is good and make me eat it.

  12. Will the dates be as arbitrary as those on drugs? by schwit1 · · Score: 1

    Hopefully these manufacturers are less greedy than drug companies with their pharmacuticles' expiry dates..

  13. Disconnect between science and reality by Goldsmith · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am a scientist, and I work on chemical sensors.

    Colorimetric sensor arrays are not new by any stretch of the imagination. There are several companies that make and sell them, many using "nanostructures" to boost something (usually the markup). We've been through food freshness, fruit ripeness, coffee roast detection, wine quality... Some of these are worth the $0.05 sensor and $1.00 labor required to package with the food, and some are not, but detecting these things is not a problem.

    More and more, I'm seeing academic scientists demonstrate a lack of understanding of what real world problems and opportunities are. Someone in the academic grant backed research machine needs to have an eye on what's happened prior to recently published literature (and maybe look at what happens outside the literature too). 15 years seems to be the horizon of forgetfullness.

    1. Re:Disconnect between science and reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do I avoid missing prior developments like this? Especially in private industry.

  14. "I'm sorry, Dave..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "I'm sorry, Dave, but I cannot allow you to eat this sandwich."
    "Why not? It only arrived last Tuesday."
    "It has expired, and I am programmed to destroy ALL expired foods."
    "Sandwich look fine to me, its only the label that isn't green. And it's only yellow, not red or black. Perfectly safe to eat."
    "I cannot allow you to eat the sandwich. No NetFresh 9000 has ever made an operational error."
    "Aw, come on..."

    Is this the "future" we want? NO!!

  15. There I fixed it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Marketers Create "Smart" Labels To Tell You When To Buy More Even If The Product Is Still Perfectly Fine.

  16. Re: And then, we could just have an expiry date... by aliquis · · Score: 1

    But how bad does it have to taste to be bad?

    Orange juice which taste .. weird? Like tart/yeasted?

    Old cock lentils and vegetables which taste... creamy? I don't know what it taste really.

    I notice the difference in taste and given the option wouldn't pick it over fresher food but what if one don't want to throw it or its the only option?

    Avoid all that taste weird or eat it unless terrible?

  17. Need the labels? by Weirsbaski · · Score: 2

    Why do they need a smart-label for this?
    Food => throw it away when it starts turning colors.
    Cosmetics => throw it away when it STOPS turning colors.

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  18. My system by backslashdot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Eat a couple bites of it and if it causes me to keel over and have to go to the emergency room, then it is probably not a good idea to eat the rest unless it is tasty.

  19. Re: And then, we could just have an expiry date... by parkinglot777 · · Score: 2

    But how bad does it have to taste to be bad?

    Orange juice which taste .. weird? Like tart/yeasted?

    Old cock lentils and vegetables which taste... creamy? I don't know what it taste really.

    I notice the difference in taste and given the option wouldn't pick it over fresher food but what if one don't want to throw it or its the only option?

    Avoid all that taste weird or eat it unless terrible?

    When food is going bad, its taste will be different from what it used to be (or its original taste). If it starts going that way, dump it, period. If you keep eating it, then be ready to run to the bathroom more often and may end up in a hospital. Though, I found some people who can't distinguish between what the normal taste and what not...

  20. Is Samsung the new Big Brother? by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    Samsung has this new IoT fridge that has cameras inside it ostensibly to allow you to see what's in your fridge while you're out food shopping so you don't forget something or buy something you already have. Ok, but who else can see that video feed? Will you get e-mails telling you that you're eating too much junk food and not enough kale?

  21. Use your nose by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    I've never had a problem deciding when to throw something away. We don't need planned obsolescence for food.

  22. be used to explore remote locations, such as by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my nether regions.

    There, I said it.

  23. Nobody needs the labels by del_diablo · · Score: 1

    You don't need a smart label. Consumer products is to some degree guaranteed to be in good shape.
    However, a store might need one. So instead of a label on each product(i.e giant box filled with meat), the box has a smart label on it.
    So when the product has reached store, the store can tell if there has been any normal degradation.
    Temperature, humidity, pressure, light, time.
    What is useful here is that by design, things that get moved in large quantum will be exposed to moving: Delays, bad temporary storage, faults in moving equipment(i.e truck refrigerator), too hot on site.
    It also has a real use for less perishable goods, such as candy, fabric, or other such things, allowing long term storage while also having a measure of degrading, allowing potential improvement of storage if somebody cared.

    However, this is not useful by itself. Existing locations and stores, and storages, already have routines to deal with. Except if a thing is moved quite far. Lets say shipping between border nations, or even further: Over the ocean, and then trucked/trained across the nation, and then redistributed. So suddenly, such a thing can be used to tell if a shipment will be of premium value, or if its more reasonable enchant it by exposing it to a preservation method(i.e pickling, curing, smoking, etc)

  24. Re: And then, we could just have an expiry date... by aliquis · · Score: 1

    When food is going bad, its taste will be different from what it used to be (or its original taste). If it starts going that way, dump it, period. If you keep eating it, then be ready to run to the bathroom more often and may end up in a hospital. Though, I found some people who can't distinguish between what the normal taste and what not...

    Yeah. That's what I figure and how I'd feel "safe", then again I've eaten it even though it has tasted or smelled weird (and been out in the open for 24-48 hours) and I may not have noticed any actual problems from doing so later but that of course doesn't necessarily mean it's been just fine because of that ..

    I guess what I mean was whatever it had to taste HORRIBLE or just "wrong", but yeah, if "wrong" is the answer then I've of course noticed it up "stomached" it.. which may have been stupid, but also throwing away food seem pretty stupid, then again throwing away stale (or whatever word) food maybe is smart ;D