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Publishers Are Making More Video -- Whether You Want It or Not (bloomberg.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Mic, a website aimed at millennials, used to employ 40 writers and editors producing articles on topics like "celebrating beauty" and "strong women." Ten were let go this month, with most in the revamped newsroom of 63 now focused on making videos for places like Facebook. Critics have called such moves "100 percent cynical" and out of sync with audience demand. Yet Americans are watching more video snippets online, either because they secretly like them or because they're getting harder to avoid. The growing audience for video, more valuable to advertisers than the space next to words, is causing websites to shift resources in what's become known across the industry as the pivot to video. Americans are expected to spend 81 minutes a day watching digital video in 2019, up from 61 minutes in 2015, according to projections by research firm eMarketer. Time spent reading a newspaper is expected to drop to 13 minutes a day from 16 minutes during that time. The question is whether those trends will sustain the growing number of outlets flooding social networks with video clips. Mic, a New York-based news site founded in 2011, was just the latest to fire writers when it announced its pivot to video this month. Dozens of writers and editors have also been laid off this summer at news outlets like Vocativ, Fox Sports, Vice and MTV News. All of the moves were tied in part to focusing more resources on making videos. Publishers are heading in this direction even though polls show consumers find video ads more irritating than TV commercials. Google and Apple are testing features that let you mute websites with auto-play videos or block them entirely. More young Americans prefer reading the news than watching it, according to a survey last year by the Pew Research Center. But many publishers have little choice.

167 comments

  1. No big deal by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just because they make videos (content or ads) doesn't mean I have to watch them. Create away!

    1. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Wow, that's pretty disconnected from reality. Point is it's all going video and writers are being fired.

      If there's nothing to read and there's only video and you won't watch them, then you are then removed from access to news and information and no longer a viable member of society. (With the state of things these days one could argue that's the case for everyone already...)

    2. Re:No big deal by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just because they make videos (content or ads) doesn't mean I have to watch them. Create away!

      Indeed, if it's a video, I don't watch. How many news videos have I watched online this year?

      0.

      If one site doesn't have text, I go to another one that does. Eventually a few media producers are going to realize that there is a large demographic who don't want videos.

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    3. Re:No big deal by FictionPimp · · Score: 2

      And if you think the demand is there for the written word, maybe you should start a company that has that focus. If everyone hates video then you have a huge product on your hands.

    4. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Except these are likely articles most people don't read anyways. Most of them are probably for product placements and SEO. They are switching to video because it's more profitable to sell crap through video than sell crap through articles. There are still plenty of reputable news sources and magazines to read online that exists based on their usefulness and content.

    5. Re:No big deal by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2

      The sooner publishers realize there's a reasonable contingent that won't watch videos, of any type, ever, the better. I personally don't have time for video, nor the emotionally pandering claptrap most talking heads spout these days trying to "lure" you in. The effect on me is to move on whenever I'm exposed to it, even if I care about the topic supposedly being presented. As far as the web goes, I watch 0 videos. I have no 3rd party plugins for viewing content and have disabled the internally supplied ones.

      As an example of how utterly inefficient video is, Dylan's Nobel monologue ran something like 23 minutes on video (according to the snippet underneath the box) but I read the entire speech in less than 3 minutes. I was curious whether I missed something when it came on TV later, so I left it going. Nope, just Dylan speaking at his normal 20 words a minute..... I lost interest as I'd already read it and there was nothing to be gained by watching him drone on.

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    6. Re:No big deal by JohnFen · · Score: 2

      Point is it's all going video and writers are being fired.

      If that's the point, it's simply straight-up wrong. There will always be written alternatives, because the the relative strengths and weaknesses of the various formats. What the article is saying is that the Big Boys are moving to video. That may very well be true, but they're very far from the only fish in the sea.

    7. Re: No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if society if garbage, I'm forced to become garbage. I'd rather get on a boat and leave society.

    8. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fair points, for sure.

      The industry does often move as a whole, though. If there's no jobs for copy writers, people will do what pays the bills.

      >they're very far from the only fish in the sea.

      For now. The landscape of the web is so different from ten years ago, I wouldn't count on that staying true.

    9. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >maybe you should start a company that has that focus

      Huh? I'm a software developer not a media guru...

      We are casually discussing the issue, got anything constructive to add?

    10. Re:No big deal by FictionPimp · · Score: 0

      Yes, my add was that if there is actually a market for the written word someone will exploit it. I put it in the context that if you are afraid this model is drying in the current media and you believe there is a market for it, then you have a good business model and should exploit it. I'm sorry you are unable to read between the lines.

    11. Re:No big deal by doom · · Score: 1

      Gr8Apes wrote:

      The sooner publishers realize there's a reasonable contingent that won't watch videos, of any type, ever, the better.

      And the moment they realize they can't sell breast augmentation surgery and penis pumps to us, we'll be back to where we are.

      Welcome to the ad supported internet: dumb is where the money is.

    12. Re:No big deal by HungryMonkey · · Score: 1

      Personally, I think the problem is that too much content is being created.

    13. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would only providing video and having nothing to read not be against disability discrimination laws? Unless every video has optional sub-titles for the deaf and audio description for the blind then it is discriminating against people with those disabilities.

    14. Re:No big deal by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, we'll see.

      I'm reminded that when radio was introduced, everyone got all concerned that it would be the death of print media. It wasn't, because radio sucks at the things print excels at.

      Then, when TV became popular, everyone got all concerned that it would be the death of print media. It wasn't, for the same reason as radio.

      This is no different. It is literally impossible to replace written word with video -- especially for things like news -- because video sucks at the sort of thing writing is great at.

    15. Re:No big deal by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      And the moment they realize they can't sell breast augmentation surgery and penis pumps

      They still advertise that crap?

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    16. Re:No big deal by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I remember a lifetime ago, in a journalism class, we covered the relative strengths and weaknesses of reporting news in print vs in video.

      One of the exercises was to take a news broadcast and write up the transcript for it. It pretty much drive home this little fact: the amount of information in an hour's news broadcast fills about 2/3 of a single page of a newspaper.

      Some stories work better in video -- but all video has serious time constraints, and so in terms of actual information, video (even long-form video like documentary movies) can only ever give you a summary.

      The same hold true for fiction. Movies, for example, are the equivalent of a written short story.

    17. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      No, your add was a mealy-mouthed, condescending response of "Why don't you start your own business" spoken by every dim-witted, socially awkward simpleton with a computer.

    18. Re: No big deal by doom · · Score: 1

      You must love the Kool Aid even as you are drowning in it.

      But if there is a market for Kool Aid, shouldn't Kool Aid be sold?

      You're a typical elite intellectual, denying the masses their Kool Aid even though the Raspberry flavor goes so well with Arsenic.

    19. Re: No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just start your own country in a boat in international waters? What about pirates??

    20. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can't think beyond yourself, you DO subject yourself to those who can.

      There's a notch beneath "Small minds discuss people" for those who can't speak on anything outside their bubble.

    21. Re:No big deal by Strider- · · Score: 2

      Every medium has its strengths and weaknesses. I'm still pretty partial to radio, myself. One of the most moving/informative moments I've ever heard was from CBC's "As it Happens." The show basically consists of the hosts phoning up relevant people all over the world, and interviewing them at length for the show. It tends to be a mix of light hearted fare (An interview with the guy who won the cheese rolling race in the UK) and more serious items, speaking with an elderly lady who's home was flooded in Houston last night.

      I've only heard it in replay, but back in 1994, they interviewed a Hutu woman in Rwanda during the height of the genocide. They were on the phone with her as she hid in her home as the Tutsi militias knocked on her door. The terror, the descriptions, brought the whole tragedy to life, and was (imho) much more effective than video could be, as it didn't focus on the gore.

      In a similar vein, Edward R. Murrow's report on the liberation of the Buchenwald concentration camp was likely the most effective way to convey what happened. Print would have been dryer, more clinical and sanitized by editors. Film would have focused on the visuals. But Murrow's descriptions were raw, open, and unfiltered. Not only did he describe what he saw, but you could hear the emotion, the anger, in his voice.

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    22. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Yeah, we'll see.

      Bingo. I would argue that things are very different these days. I know same argument had been used before. Doesn't mean it's not possible that it's true this time.

      While copy will always be king, it may be relegated to the fringes.

      The basic principles that guide a free society are being abandoned, the consequences could be dramatic. (Already are?)

    23. Re: No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if society if garbage,

      And this is why the world needs copy editors. It's only going to get worse...

    24. Re:No big deal by NoZart · · Score: 1

      But what if we readers are in the minority? I don't really know any stats, but i am afraid that the video-consumers outnumber the text-consumers by a fair bit :-(

    25. Re:No big deal by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      But what if we readers are in the minority? I don't really know any stats, but i am afraid that the video-consumers outnumber the text-consumers by a fair bit :-(

      Based on the responses of people on Slashdot, I would suspect that even if we're in the minority we're a large enough group that at least one website would want to cater to us.

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    26. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " then you are then removed from access to news and information and no longer a viable member of society"

      did your logic take an extended vacation.. i don't logically see how accessing the news and being a viable member of society are related.. especially given that 90% of the news is BS.

      You don't need to have access to the news to be a doctor, or a vet, or even a trash person, they are all viable members of society and the news has no bearing on their day to day life. The news is supposed to help you in one context, in deciding who to vote for the next time as aside from weather adn traffic, the rest of the news stories will more than likely have nothing to do with your life on a daily basis.

      For example, the tragedy of what is going on in Texas with the storm is devastating and truly humbling, but it did not really require more than half of the news broadcast to cover up here in Canada. especially when we have our own problems up here to deal with. things that would have been more valuable to Canadians such as our economy, or what ever parts of Canada our ex drama teacher is giving away now. Anything that self proclaims to be news is nothing more than a distraction and a specific dialogue that someone is trying to feed you.

    27. Re: No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People may demand a thing, it doesn't mean it's ok to provide it. Slavery? Child porn? Windows Phone? None of these are ok.

    28. Re: No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, hate it when I follow a news link and it's only available via video, and they don't post a transcript.

      I'm not going to watch a 5 minute video of some talking head for content I can read in 1 minute.

      It would be different if its a video of the thing that happened, like alien first encounter. But video of someone telling me what happened? Waste of time. I just leave and after some time someone will have an article posted on another site.

      This kind of reminds me of that stargate movie where the alien overlord kept his people illiterate do they wouldnt be able to share unauthorized knowledge or organize against him.

      Where are we headed if people cant read, only communicate in person, and only see video news approved by the government? Or worse, corporations.

    29. Re:No big deal by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Point is it's all going video and writers are being fired

      It is, at 'Mic, a website aimed at millennials' that runs articles 'on topics like "celebrating beauty" and "strong women."'. Irrespective of the format, the content is no great loss.

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    30. Re:No big deal by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      I don't know about Murrow's report being more effective in audio vs video, but the Rodney King or Reginald Denny beatings or the recent spate of police brutality videos certainly would be diminished or even ignored in anything other than video. Video shows the extent and manner of the interaction and leaves all interpretation aside at least for those events as there's no excuse nor rationalization for them.

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    31. Re:No big deal by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      posted early.

      However, that said, there's the OJ chase that went on for what seemed like a week and could be summed up in 1 paragraph. The Grenfell's fire is another that only needs a couple of pictures and the story, video adds nothing there either, except maybe if you're a forensics person.

      In short most things for news purposes are fine in written form. Only when there's a need for an evidentiary progression of actions do you need video. Audio and video can both convey the intensity of raw emotion. All forms of media can be very effective manipulative tools, as seen by conspiracy theory websites, or the described Murrow report or the mentioned videos.

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    32. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. If I see news on CNN or someplace that only has video, I pop over to Google and search for the headline. Almost always someone has put together copy on whatever was in the video. When I am online I am already listening to something else...normally music or books...and I don't want to stop that to listen to something I could have read.

    33. Re:No big deal by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      I would argue that things are very different these days.

      Ah, the nut of the difference in our worldviews. I don't see anything indicating that things are substantially different these days compared to the past.

    34. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is also becoming more common for sites to have videos start autoplaying when you visit them, which is one reason Chrome has an option to mute sites. Being able to pull that stuff is why videos are becoming more popular.

      Plus, it is about time spent on a site. A video forces people to sit through 15-90 second ads, then 10-15 minutes of rambling... and usually what they drone on about could be summarized in less than a paragraph of text.

    35. Re:No big deal by toonces33 · · Score: 1

      You misunderstand. The demand is from Wall Street investors who want to force more people to watch commercials. It has nothing to do with what the people on the other end actually want - remember that if you aren't paying for something then you are the product. With just text it is easier to ignore.

    36. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reduced to name calling. How enlightened.

    37. Re: No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We could be the pirates!

    38. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Indeed, if it has an engine, I don't get in. How many 'automobiles' have I ridden in this year? 0. If one vehicle doesn't have a horse, I find another one that does."

      See where this is going? Sure, there's a "large demographic" now. Just like there was, quite recently, a "large demographic" that wouldn't buy a smartphone, or a smart TV.

      Pro tip: nobody ever got rich by catering to luddites, no matter how numerous they claimed to be.

    39. Re:No big deal by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Just because they make videos (content or ads) doesn't mean I have to watch them. Create away!

      Not so fast. From TFS:

      Americans are expected to spend 81 minutes a day watching digital video in 2019, up from 61 minutes in 2015, ...

      So you'd better get busy if you want to get a meets (or exceeds) expectations on your annual review.

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    40. Re: No big deal by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      You must love the Kool Aid even as you are drowning in it.

      But if there is a market for Kool Aid, shouldn't Kool Aid be sold?

      You're a typical elite intellectual, denying the masses their Kool Aid even though the Raspberry flavor goes so well with Arsenic.

      Except at (still the never-ending) Trump rallies. There, people seem to prefer the Orange Kool-Aid.

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    41. Re:No big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noise. Too much noise and any meaningful communication is lost. We live in the era of NOISE.

      Delete yourself.
      You have no chance to win.

    42. Re:No big deal by sfcat · · Score: 1

      I've only heard it in replay, but back in 1994, they interviewed a Hutu woman in Rwanda during the height of the genocide. They were on the phone with her as she hid in her home as the Tutsi militias knocked on her door.

      Pretty sure you mean it was a Tutsi women hiding from Hutu militias. Although in rural areas of Rwanda there was Hutu on Hutu killings too. The Hutu/Tutsi division is pretty artificial, its an easy mistake to make.

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    43. Re:No big deal by doom · · Score: 1

      Flamebait? My god. If even slashdot can't handle snark, the internet really is over.

      Have fun in your Safe Spaces, kids.

    44. Re: No big deal by doom · · Score: 1

      Oh nonsense. All that exists exists for the better, in this, the freeest of all free markets.

    45. Re:No big deal by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Snark and sarcasm are only two of the services I offer.

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    46. Re:No big deal by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      Do you like to look at the videos? I can read way faster than a video can go. My comprehension is way better as well. It's really a waste of my time to look at their lame video. Lately it seems they try to make it so you can't even turn off the sound. I'm simply hitting x on those sites.

    47. Re: No big deal by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      don't forget the blackjack and hookers!

  2. Do you know how much time it takes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... to not click-to-play, and focus on more worthy web pages?

    None whatsoever.

  3. Horribly inefficient by fluffernutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find videos horribly inefficient at relaying information. Maybe it's because I'm a fast reader, or I can skim for certain words. Videos for the sake of entertainment, fine, but for the sake of learning unless it's something highly visual I would way rather read it. If I click on a news story and it's a video I exit out. Not worth my time to consume it.

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    1. Re:Horribly inefficient by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Video works if what is spoken is also available as text. Either on the sidebar with timecode (which I'd prefer) or at least as subtitles. That way you can fast forward through the video to get to the part that interests you.

      Anyone not providing either needn't apply.

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    2. Re:Horribly inefficient by gachunt · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Maybe it's because I'm a fast reader, or I can skim for certain words.

      This is a common habit for on-screen consumption of information. Few "read" a website, most scan/skim for headings, and read the first 5-6 words of the paragraph to determine if the information they are looking for might be in that area.

      Videos break how users regularly interact with finding information online/onscreen, and it slows down their ability to complete their task (find the information they want), which is why this practice is found annoying.

      Reference: How Users Read on the Web (Spoiler: They don't)

    3. Re:Horribly inefficient by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Video works if what is spoken is also available as text.

      Even if it is, it's still incredibly inefficient. Video has an incredibly low information density -- those transcripts show it: look at how short they are, and how light on information.

    4. Re:Horribly inefficient by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Videos are useful where you want to pack a lot of complex technical information into a communication.

      Videos aren't useful for gossip.

    5. Re:Horribly inefficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For learning how to rebuild a lawnmower engine or fix a dishwasher, I find video much more efficient. I already know math and physics,so this type of learning is all that I do anymore.

    6. Re:Horribly inefficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Video works if what is spoken is also available as text.

      Even if it is, it's still incredibly inefficient. Video has an incredibly low information density -- those transcripts show it: look at how short they are, and how light on information.

      Video works less well if there's a transcript in text right below it.
      Why do all the news sites have a video of someone basically reading the article slowly?
      You want to increase revenues? Stop wasting money producing videos.

    7. Re:Horribly inefficient by PingSpike · · Score: 2

      I was actually thinking the other day the new dictation technology they keep would be best used on how to videos that should have been text directions anyway. I often find myself googling how to do something, avoiding the youtube links and searching for text directions and if there's nothing else jumping around the video. Just scrape all the text out of it automatically and serve that up instead. Basically an auto transcript.

      You could even use some sort of weighting or voting system with the original video to get users to selection stills from the video that represent the step in the directions. It wouldn't be as good as text/pictures from the start but it would be a lot more skimmable which would actually let you find the video that doesn't suck faster if you wanted to watch it.

    8. Re:Horribly inefficient by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0

      Most people consider reading in the same category as having a tooth pulled: something that's only done when absolutely necessary. They love video because it's effortless. Moreover it gives people a feeling of "being friends" if the video reader is high energy. This is where all the "youtubers" come from, it's a substitute for friends from lonely people. Watching a livestream is better than hanging out with your friends, because your friends can't be that personable, the youtuber is.

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    9. Re:Horribly inefficient by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Like, err, human anatomy?

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    10. Re:Horribly inefficient by doom · · Score: 1

      Few "read" a website, most scan/skim for headings ...

      Why is everyone always so prejudiced against skim milk? There's really nothing wrong with 1% milk! The less fat content the better, right?

    11. Re:Horribly inefficient by pete6677 · · Score: 1

      You have that exactly backwards.

    12. Re:Horribly inefficient by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hi, squiggleslash here, to give you another insight on why things are the way they are, here to add my 2c to any conversation, on any subject. As always, a lot of things to cover today, but I want to focus on just one comment in particular, and that's from fluffernutter, who writes "I find videos horribly inefficient at relaying information. Maybe it's because I'm a fast reader, or I can skim for certain words. Videos for the sake of entertainment, fine, but for the sake of learning unless it's something highly visual I would way rather read it. If I click on a news story and it's a video I exit out. Not worth my time to consume it."

      Well, fluffernutter, you're not the only one, but there's another factor I think you should consider to, and that's the format.

      You see, when we write, we're typically very careful in what we write, we know the more words about irrelevant topics we add, the harder it is to follow our arguments. We have to be concise.

      Concise

      ...and that leads to an entirely different way of imparting information. Also unlike video, we don't have a single channel, we can impart related concepts, such as ways to encourage people to share our content with others, in graphical form outside of the main body of whatever it is we're trying to communicate.

      Other channels

      ...and that means when you read something, typically you can get it in a few seconds rather than a video where you have to listen to a lot of information that's just completely unrelated to whatever it was you were interested in before you hear what you need to hear.

      So did I give you a useful answer? Hey, if you fluffernutter or anyone else on Slashdot wants to give me an answer, just hit the "Reply" button underneath this text, and let's hear what you have to say.

      Reply or email

      ...and remember, you can check out my channel by going to the word "squiggleslash" just above this comment and clicking on it. Don't forget to friend me for more of my stunning insight and interesting posts.

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    13. Re:Horribly inefficient by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Second this. I'll skip something if it's only a video. I'd rather read an actual article. Video is fine if there is something about the subject that really needs to be presented visually, but otherwise it's just too slow and too distracting.

    14. Re:Horribly inefficient by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      There are things that are easier shown than explained. I sure wouldn't want to learn dancing from an instruction text.

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    15. Re:Horribly inefficient by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "Even if it is, it's still incredibly inefficient. Video has an incredibly low information density -- those transcripts show it: look at how short they are, and how light on information."

      Usually they just show some moron 'reading' the relevant information, only with a couple of hundred additional superfluous words, so that the reader is shown longer onscreen, because the idiot is enamored with himself, exactly the reason I don't watch TV news.
      BTW that reminds me of someone ...

    16. Re:Horribly inefficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was going to reply to the GP saying that written publications often aren't any better than video, but your example nailed it. I've encountered dozens of articles just like this.
      Even if one prefers reading, so many science news articles, how-tos, or informational blog posts are also garbage. The first few paragraphs will have inane rambling, background information, tepid jokes, and reassurance about how you've come this far just to get hung up on some detail. Gee gosh it's all so complicated but let's hold hands and walk through it together!
      I blame Buzzfeed culture and social media.

    17. Re:Horribly inefficient by jafiwam · · Score: 2

      Video works if what is spoken is also available as text. Either on the sidebar with timecode (which I'd prefer) or at least as subtitles. That way you can fast forward through the video to get to the part that interests you.

      Anyone not providing either needn't apply.

      There are a whole army of ADA Compliance lawyers out there eagerly awaiting for the organization that tries to put out video without exact description and dialogue in text as well.

      I am not at all worried about "videoonlyclpyse" happening.

    18. Re:Horribly inefficient by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The reason everyone is making video content is because they want the video advertisers. I was working in online advertising a few years ago (than goodness I got out of that, what a waste), and everyone wanted to create video content, because advertisers pay so much more for video commercials than static commercials.

      Yet another reminder that you are the product, not the customer.

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    19. Re:Horribly inefficient by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      There's really nothing wrong with 1% milk!

      This is correct if you're disregarding taste and substance. Just like video vs writing!

    20. Re:Horribly inefficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So because you can think of examples where video is better, then EVERYTHING should be video? You realize things known as 'books' have contained dancing lessons using pictures of every single step and accompanying text, for ages.

      I'm with GGGP, taking six sentences of material and stretching it out over 2min or more is about as inefficient at purveyance of information as you can get.

    21. Re:Horribly inefficient by Calydor · · Score: 1

      And I wouldn't want to learn four-dimensional equations from a video with no text.

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    22. Re:Horribly inefficient by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

      Oh I don't know - if all slashdot posts had to be video instead of text it might be quite telling.

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    23. Re:Horribly inefficient by Strider- · · Score: 1

      Sometimes efficiency isn't the point; not everything has to be super efficient.

      Take the example I mentioned above; Edward R. Murrow's account of his visit to the Buchenwald concentration camp. Sure, the information could have been conveyed in a page or two of text, but it would not have anywhere near the impact of hearing directly from an eye witness. There is information conveyed in that report that goes beyond the mere words; the rawness, the emotion, the anger. Some of that just can't be conveyed on the printed page.

      "I pray you to believe what I have said about Buchenwald. I have reported what I saw and heard, but only part of it. For most of it I have no words. If I've offended you by this rather mild account of Buchenwald, I'm not in the least sorry."

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    24. Re:Horribly inefficient by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Okay, so, I usually do a 15-20 page write-up to explain the financial models behind the Universal Social Security framework. This involves a whole lot of numbers, tangential references to the effectiveness of our public aid systems, and so forth. For example: 3/4 of families qualified by the Government for HUD Housing Assistance go on a waiting list and never receive benefits (they never graduate from the waiting list).

      While it takes about 2-3 minutes to map out which services I'm restructuring, the cost of those services, how the money gets distributed, how our aid services would build on top of this new foundation, how this new structure immediately improves the financial position of all American households, and how that change in financial position changes (reduces) the amount of aid necessary to provide stability to low-income households, it's possible to display all of this in a 20-30 second animated infographic.

      That doesn't even begin to cover the tax impacts (it's lower taxes on individuals, businesses, and payrolls); the explanation for why the system is permanently solvent or why the benefit grows faster than inflation (this requires a crash course in the economics of technical progress); or the quick-check model of comparing the total money moved to Social Security OASDI taxes adjusted to all income and the funding source tax rate used. For the most part, that's all stuff you can display visually in a few seconds with minimal explanation.

      A 2-minute video can cover pretty much all the mechanical details, whereas it takes a dozen pages with spreadsheets full of numbers and verbose descriptions of the logical process of manipulating those numbers to get it out in text. By the time you've gotten through it, you've exceeded most people's attention spans. If you've thoroughly read this, the way you'd have to read that sort of dense text to extract any useful information, you've already spent more time than it takes to describe the process thoroughly in video.

      There's not a video because I don't have the skill to make one, nor the capitalization to pay someone for one.

    25. Re:Horribly inefficient by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Came here to make this very point.

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    26. Re:Horribly inefficient by Hadlock · · Score: 2

      I watch youtube videos at 2x with subtitles on, 1.5x if no subtitles and the guy has a thick accent. It takes maybe a full day to adjust, but once you do, you can never go back to 1x video. People spend about half their time thinking about what they're going to say next it's awful once you realize it. Also works wonders for online training courses.

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    27. Re:Horribly inefficient by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I find videos horribly inefficient at relaying information.

      That depends entirely on the information. A picture says a 1000 words. Sometimes you need the words so it's absolutely clear. Sometimes you need the picture for the information density that no words can match.

    28. Re:Horribly inefficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when has news has to be compliant with ADA? Or is the reason the newspaper industry failing that they have been sued into oblivion by blind people?

      Most company websites aren't ADA compliant. And I have never heard of one being sued...

    29. Re:Horribly inefficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's impossible to refer to them as well. It's easy to find or copy/paste that section where they discuss where they discuss the direction Hurricane Harvey is headed... good luck getting to that in any reasonable amount of time in a video. It's just terribly inefficient, and the inefficiency multiplies. Pretty soon you won't know anything anymore because it just takes so much time to soak the information in and... wait a sec, this has the makings of a conspiracy theory!

    30. Re:Horribly inefficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1 redundant

    31. Re:Horribly inefficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are confusing "words" with "information".

      Yes, video is incredibly inefficient at conveying words from the speaker to the listener. (Or reader, or whatever.)

      But the information content in a video is far greater than just the words. That's why newspapers have had photos, since pretty much immediately after someone worked out how to print them. Look at a photo of downtown Houston today, then write a description of what you see - how long does that take?

      I don't like it. I think video makes the viewer an order of magnitude more open to distortion and manipulation by unscrupulous propagandists. But I don't attempt to deny it's effective.

    32. Re:Horribly inefficient by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Not everything should be on video, but video is not every time inferior to written information.

      I trust you can see the difference here.

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    33. Re:Horribly inefficient by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't want to learn it from a video at all. The point is that not every problem is a nail, no matter how much you love your hammer. The right tool for the right problem is the key.

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    34. Re:Horribly inefficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly.

      I rather read the news (be it online or on a traditional printed piece of newsprint).

      I rarely "watch" the news. Unless it's some realtime footage which was captured of / during a major incident, in which case I usually look it up online, since I can't selectively watch just that clip on a tv at a time of my choosing.

  4. 40-10=63? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Stopped reading after that.

    1. Re:40-10=63? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      They laid off employees in their 40's and 10's. Now all they have left are grumpy 63-years-old employees. At that age, watching video is easier than writing.

    2. Re:40-10=63? by Woeful+Countenance · · Score: 1
      I, too, noticed that. I think what they mean is that there were "40 writers and editors producing articles", plus other staff doing other things, like producing videos. Ten of the writers and editors were eliminated; the remaining 30 were combined with the other staff into a "revamped newsroom of 63". It's poorly written, showing that text, while better than video in some ways, also can have problems.

      Most people seem to have trouble translating the vague and nebulous thoughts in their minds into language that's actually comprehensible to other people who don't share the same set of knowledge and assumptions.

  5. I do hate videos, but... by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mic, a website aimed at millennials, used to employ 40 writers and editors producing articles on topics like "celebrating beauty" and "strong women." Ten were let go this month, with most in the revamped newsroom of 63 now focused on making videos for places like Facebook.

    And nothing of value was lost.

    I really do hate videos though; won't watch them. They're a waste of time for me, as I am able to read and comprehend faster than any video can present the information.

    This is made worse by the fact that folks who make the video seem intent on wasting even more time with intros and other cruft before getting to the subject.

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    1. Re:I do hate videos, but... by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      This is made worse by the fact that folks who make the video seem intent on wasting even more time with intros and other cruft before getting to the subject.

      You can thank Youtube for that, since they pay more for videos over 10 minutes. Videos that would previously have been 4 minutes long are now 10 to get them extra pennies. Also, it's easier to shoot an hour of video and edit it down to 10 minutes than it is to edit it down to 4 minutes because scenes that drag get left in rather than re-shot.

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    2. Re:I do hate videos, but... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You can thank Youtube for that, since they pay more for videos over 10 minutes.

      IIRC, The average watch time on YouTube is 2.5 minutes. YouTube wants people to stay on their website for longer periods of time. If a video can entice people to watch longer than the average time, the algorithm will reward creators for doing that.

    3. Re:I do hate videos, but... by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 5, Informative

      They're a waste of time for me, as I am able to read and comprehend faster than any video can present the information.

      While that is true, my objection to videos is that it is easier to mislead with a video. I will give two examples. First, in "Bowling from Columbine" there is a video of a Charlton Heston speech with a cut away to a sign from the audience in the middle...except that it was not A speech, it was two separate speeches. The cut away to the sign was so that the audience would not notice that he was wearing a different shirt in each part of the "speech". They seamlessly combined the audio of Charlton Heston speaking from both speeches with no break in the audio to hint that it was not all one speech. In written text, you would need to put some ellipses in, or some other indication of a break and people would expect you to tell them where the speech occurred. Then if you did not state that it was two separate speeches, they would, rightly, call you out for lying. In the video version, Michael Moore claimed it was an innocent oversight.
      A second example was my first exposure to Alex Jones, now of InfoWars. A friend, knowing I am conservative, sent me a couple of videos from Alex Jones. I watched the first one and at one point there is ongoing audio over various video clips. The video clips LOOKED like they were related to what was being said in the audio...and if they were they lent great credence to what was otherwise a suspect idea. Well, I happened to know what the video clips actually were and knew they had nothing to do with the audio. Just as in Bowling for Columbine the video was designed to make you interpret the audio in a way contrary to what logic would dictate.

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    4. Re:I do hate videos, but... by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I still remember when YouTube had a 10 minute maximum for videos. Should we blame Youtube, or blame the users (both producers and viewers) who pushed for the ability to upload longer videos?

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    5. Re:I do hate videos, but... by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      It's not surprising the video creators have responded this way, I would have too. "You mean I get paid more for doing less editing? Sign me up!"

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    6. Re:I do hate videos, but... by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      There's no blame, there are justifiable reasons for long videos. I'm glad Youtube accepts them, as it saves having to watch multiple short videos on the same topic. What I don't like is the part about short videos becoming long ones because they pay more and because they require less editing. Fortunately, a lot of "padded" videos can be viewed at 1.5x speed with no loss in comprehensibility.

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    7. Re:I do hate videos, but... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      "You mean I get paid more for doing less editing? Sign me up!"

      Depends on how you edit your video. Casey Neistat typically spends eight hours editing his videos and most of his videos are in the 10 to 15 minute range. Of course, he is a professional filmmaker.

    8. Re:I do hate videos, but... by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Fortunately, a lot of "padded" videos can be viewed at 1.5x speed with no loss in comprehensibility.

      Another word for "padded" videos is "bad" videos. I have a better solution for dealing with them: I don't watch them, and stop following channels that have too many of them.

      There's a lot of content out there, and so there's no reason for me to put up with any that I find even mildly irritating.

    9. Re:I do hate videos, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really do hate videos though; won't watch them. They're a waste of time for me, as I am able to read and comprehend faster than any video can present the information.

      This is made worse by the fact that folks who make the video seem intent on wasting even more time with intros and other cruft before getting to the subject.

      I'll add that videos can be faster to produce than writing an article. I occasionally teach an online Csci course as an adjunct professor. When I taught the first class, I wrote down a nice introductory article for the week's topic, and shared it. To make sure everyone got the information, I also recorded a brief (5-10 min) video to relay the same information. Usually took an hour to write the article, then 10 minutes to record the video and upload it.

      Granted, I had already written the material, so I effectively had a "script."

      Fast forward to the last time I taught the class. University rules had changed and I no longer had to provide a written "lecture" unless a student asked for it. So I just did videos every week. I didn't write a script, I didn't really prepare, I just free-wheeled it by looking ahead to the week and talking about each of the learning topics and assignments coming up, and anything big coming up in the next few weeks. I did a pretty good job at it. And they weren't long, now about 8-10 minutes. But writing an article for the week's topics and assignments would have taken much longer than that.

      So I guess I see where publishere are coming from. With a savvy public speaker/journalist, you can easily knock out a video in short order. But it will take much longer to write an equivalent article.

      That said, I don't like video on websites, either.

    10. Re:I do hate videos, but... by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Video does a better job of satisfying attention-seeking tendencies, looking at it from the other side. Face and voice time are addictive, writing doesn't stroke the ego as much. It's the 15 minutes of fame syndrome.
      Likewise, I hate when I start to watch a Youtube video and the person blathers on without getting to the point or saying anything meaningful for 5 minutes; apparently they like the sound of their own voice. That and/or they're trying to inflate the length of the video for ad purposes.
      This is another nail in the coffin of literacy.

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    11. Re:I do hate videos, but... by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      I'm shocked to be defending videos, but there is one small defense for them: Most people suck at explaining things, and a vanishingly small percent of the population can write technical instructions. However, this appalling lack of communication ability doesn't mean that a much larger percent of the population doesn't know how to do things that others might need to learn.
       
      I've run into a couple of situations where I needed to learn how to do something, take something apart, fix something, where there were no functional written instructions. It seemed as if everyone learning to do it either figured it out on their own, or they learned by watching someone else do it. In those cases, I turned to youtube. And you know what? There was a video of someone doing what I needed to learn how to do. Was it slower and far less efficient than if I had had a technical manual or well-written instructions? Sure. But lacking those, a virtual apprenticeship was the next best thing.

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    12. Re:I do hate videos, but... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      It takes longer to produce a good video than to produce a good article, but it's a lot quicker to produce a crappy video.

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    13. Re:I do hate videos, but... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      In Fahrenheit 911, Moore talked about sending bin Ladens back home while the camera panned over all the canceled flights, giving the impression that the bin Ladens were spirited out of the country when nobody else could fly. I dislike that sort of thing. I mostly agreed with Moore, but using cheap tricks gives the impression that you don't have anything substantive.

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  6. I prefer text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So much easier to highlight and search claims to fact check rather than scrubbing through a video.

    Both are likely heavily slanted to fit their makers opinions but one way is easier to get competing views.

  7. Won't be long now by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    People won't know how to read. Baby steps...

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    1. Re:Won't be long now by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      In my experience, there's already a significant number of people who don't really know how to read. They can read, but they somehow fail to retain any of the information they read and are not able to follow simple step-by-step instructions laid out in front of them. I'm not sure if this is getting any better or worse than in the past, but I find myself constantly getting frustrated in the workplace by people who just don't seem to be able to follow instructions or get information from a piece of text.

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  8. Chartbeat mothafuckas! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All told in the current Atlantic mag. And yeah, a Fuckface connection.

    1. Re:Chartbeat mothafuckas! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  9. Make away by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    More and more people are ignoring your bullshit videos. Whether you want it or not.

    Welcome to the free market, bitches. If you don't provide it, someone else will.

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    1. Re:Make away by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Actually, videos are showing the most successful steps forward in marketing we've seen in recent history. Explainer videos, in particular, have become prime marketing tools, effectively communicating both complex information and a sense of emotion to excite an audience over a subject such as a product or political call to action.

      Thing is you can't pour steak sauce on donuts. Steak sauce is a wonderful thing, just not here.

    2. Re:Make away by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      effectively communicating both complex information

      I've never seen a video, ever, that accomplished this. Not to say they don't exist, but I maintain they're pretty rare.

    3. Re:Make away by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      More and more people are ignoring your bullshit videos

      There must be some kind of fine art for saying the exact opposite of the summary and then getting modded up for it. Kudos to you.

    4. Re:Make away by Paul+Carver · · Score: 1

      Try this link
      https://www.youtube.com/channe... if you don't think "three blue one brown" communicates complex information effectively in a video format I don't know what to tell you. Of course the written information is also necessary, but I don't think it would be accurate to say that you'd be better off with only the written and not the video.

      You may still be right that they're rare, but not so rare that they can't make up at least 80% of what I watch on youtube. Maybe you're just not looking for them.

    5. Re:Make away by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      I don't think it would be accurate to say that you'd be better off with only the written and not the video.

      I didn't mean to imply that video was without value. It absolutely can work with written to enhance understanding, and there are certainly topics that are best explained with video, and there are people who understand things better when presented in a video format (I'll confess that generally speaking, I am not one of those people).

      My fundamental point was that video will not -- indeed cannot -- replace the written word wholesale, so I have no fear of these sites moving to video. Even if they go to video only. There will be plenty of news outlets and sites that remain heavily with the written word, so I'll always have somewhere to go to get what I need.

  10. Advertisers have too much control by H3lldr0p · · Score: 2

    But many publishers have little choice.

    Advertisers want stats. They want to know every little thing they can about an audience even if it doesn't help them. They can sell the data on to someone else who thinks they can extract the value.

    Why is this relevant to the article? Because videos help gather that info for them. You'll notice, that alongside this rise in video content, is a there's a rise in the amount of hosted content. It can get the demo info by being linked to a Facebook profile or to a YouTube profile or whatever platform is hosting the video. Few sites will self-host the content not because they can't afford it, but because it won't have the same demographic information. What FB has been able to do is to put together a standard format of data to be used by advertisers. That's hugely useful for their datamining efforts.

    Just how useful all this demographic info is an entirely different discussion to have. I don't think it's very useful, at least not nearly as useful as the advertisers think or want it will be.

  11. Still need script writers... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0

    Unless publishers plan to do vlog-style videos (i.e., "Watch me as I make the news!"), they still need script writers to pull everything together before they start shooting video.

    1. Re:Still need script writers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a good point; you know any script writers, creimer?

  12. I must just be old... by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...am I the only one that DESPISES video-delivered content?

    Sure, there are contexts where it's very helpful, like some DIY videos or somesuch.

    But in terms of news or general information on a subject, video content is WORSE than a bloody voicemail: it's linear, it's high-bandwidth, it's usually packed full of ads and crap or front/back stingers that are half the length of the video, and ultimately info-lite.

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    1. Re:I must just be old... by Calydor · · Score: 1

      And worse, two days later you have essentially no way of finding that video again to check a detail. How are you going to find that one video where the speaker mentioned some obscure sentence that ought to be really easy to Google for?

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    2. Re:I must just be old... by Sindar+By+Choice · · Score: 0

      The worst is when searching for help with a technical issue, and there are all these YouTube videos for something that someone could explain very simply with text.

      But they want us to watch(and listen) to someone move a mouse around on a screen.

  13. Video video videos! by phorm · · Score: 1

    Videos are great! I mean, who DOESN'T want to watch a 10 tutorial minute video to find out what used to be in a half-page article?
    Before you could just look at the words and picture and figure out what settings are needed on your phone etc, but that's old-school. Now I can listen to some guy named Frank narrate how to do it AND learn about his cat, other youtube channels, and girlfriend issues!
    It's even better when you're trying to figure out some shell command and you get to rewind a dozen times to figure out what it was they speed-typed that scrolled past almost instantly, because text articles and cut+paste is for LOSERS! Of course I don't have to worry about manually dealing with all videos, some play themselves *automatically* for me, usually buried in some random webpage at max volume just to make sure I don't miss hearing about how to deal with adult intimacy issues and incontinence!

    My cellphone provider loves it too. All that extra bandwidth we get to use in overage fees sure makes their profits go up!

    1. Re:Video video videos! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Videos are great! I mean, who DOESN'T want to watch a 10 tutorial minute video to find out what used to be in a half-page article?

      Especially when the only part you needed clarification on is covered for 10 seconds somewhere in the last 70% of the video and then you have to rewind a bunch of time because of course they rush that step.

      Now I can listen to some guy named Frank narrate how to do it AND learn about his cat, other youtube channels, and girlfriend issues!

      And listen to him beg for you to click like and subscribe for the last two minutes of the video.

  14. News websites by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    I noticed lots of news websites stopped showing photos with their news articles and now only show a video of those photos, I just skip the story all together. Another one is the slide out video ad that pushes down the article text as you read. Who the fuck came up with that idea?

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    1. Re:News websites by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Another one is the slide out video ad that pushes down the article text as you read.

      You need to use NoScript. You'll never see that sort of thing again.

    2. Re:News websites by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      Yeah, even uBlock doesn't handle those well. Newsweek drops that shit in the sidebar when you scroll down, and every time uBlock blocks it, the script detects it's not there and relaunches it. 30k blocking attempts while I read the article....

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  15. All about the money... dumb dumb dee dumb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Website revenues from picture/click/text ads have been declining in recent years, mostly through adblockers/etc. Video ads generate more per mil than other types of ads. So how do you make users view video ads? With autoplay! If it were just ads, the users would get upset, so producers have to include some content there. Even if it's moronic derps doing a 5th grade level summary of the article.

    It doesn't matter if you're reading the content on the page, the video will still play. And to prevent not getting full payment for the ad, the video will follow you as you scroll down the page reading text.

    To make matters worse, the videos are now HTML5 and many browsers haven't baked in controls to disable autoplay html5 videos (Looking at you Metro-IE!).

    Since this makes more money, I'd imagine more content will be pushed this way.

    1. Re:All about the money... dumb dumb dee dumb. by knorthern+knight · · Score: 1

      > To make matters worse, the videos are now HTML5 and many browsers haven't
      > baked in controls to disable autoplay html5 videos (Looking at you Metro-IE!).

      In Pale Moon, go to "about:config" and set both "media.autoplay.allowscripted" and "media.autoplay.enabled" to "false" to kill HTML5 autoplay. The only downside/side-effect is that sometimes you have to click 2 or 3 times to get a Youtube video to play.

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  16. Fake traffic reports? by whoever57 · · Score: 1

    My guess would be that the publishers show their advertisers the number of times the video played, even if the no one actually watched it.

    So, it's a giant scam.

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  17. somehow this story lacks punch... by doom · · Score: 1

    You know, somehow this story seems to lack punch. Bloomberg needs to do something to jazz it up a little.

    (If only they gave us some obvious hypocrisy to complain about, then it might really go viral.)

  18. Definitely don't want, can't consume by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    There is no time/place for watching a video, especially ones with more style than substance, hot takes full of hot garbage.

    A concise article is always preferable, easier to read, don't need to find earbuds etc, can't copy and paste from a video to quote to friends etc

  19. there is an option to stop auto playing any video by vladimir.sakharuk · · Score: 1

    It took me around 5 minutes to find those option. I am way more happy now.

  20. Bye, CNN by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    I had to install a video autoplay blocker because CNN autoplays videos, usually with ads, and no way to pause them as they remove the pause button.

    Well, you can click on the video ad and be directed to the ad site in another tab, pausing it of course.

    No thanks, CNN.

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    1. Re:Bye, CNN by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      The pause button is there however they made it deceptive when an advertisement is playing which causes accidental click through.

      Unfortunately most of my favorite past websites now auto play video when clicking on an article. A couple do have the ability to turn the auto play feature off. The ones that do not, I have either stopped going or it's very rare.

      The really sad part, quite often the video that auto plays has very little relevance to the actual article.

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    2. Re:Bye, CNN by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      And that's what I really, really don't get. Why did someone come to an article on your page? Because they want to read that article. What's your response? Throw up an overlay to mask it, and make them click through a "subscribe today" box. Drop an ad overtop they have to get through. Post distracting ads on the page and in the middle of the article. Drop in auto-playing video that doesn't have to do with the article.
       
      What the fuck? None of those things were why someone went to the article in the first place. Does it not occur to people that maybe doing everything in your power to distract people from what they're looking for might be a wee bit disruptive and annoying?
       
      More and more websites are on my "do not visit" list because of this. But I do wonder how much longer the rest will hold out. Will there be a day that I ragequit the internet? As I get older, it seems more and more likely...

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    3. Re:Bye, CNN by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the old days when you could misclick (or, I guess, click) and get to a porn site, which would have endless popups to prevent you from leaving. It seemed to me that, if I wanted to subscribe, I would with fewer popups, and all they were doing was convincing me that porn is annoying.

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  21. Who will write the videos? by rtfa0987 · · Score: 1

    If they fire all the writers, who will write the scripts for the videos?

    1. Re:Who will write the videos? by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Writing video copy and writing articles are two different skillsets.

  22. Gluttony is not a good thing. by nomad63 · · Score: 2

    At the beginning there was HTML. It was easily accessible for anyone with the simplest of text editors like notepad.exe on windows. Since anyone could put a few lines of HTML code and publish it, almost everyone, and their mother, did... I can still remember the horrendous hot pink background home pages some people created. Or even worse, flashing red marquees, or animated GIFs. Gawd.. more I think, more I get nauseated. What is different today ? Well everyone, and again, their mother, have a smartphone with camera which can shoot video. And sites like YouTube or Vimeo or many other similar sites, provide a platform to publish these videos for free. And everyone thinks that, taking a picture of their dog pooping, is so interesting for the rest of us and I should watch this drivel repeatedly. There is gluttony of resources and people with too much free time in their hands, with the idea of striking it rich like pewdiepie or Justin friggen Bieber. What could go wrong ? And yet we are here...

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  23. No writers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mic, a New York-based news site founded in 2011, was just the latest to fire writers when it announced its pivot to video this month.

    They don't need writers to create these videos? Is whomever is in/narrating/subtitling the video just winging it?

  24. the only videos i watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are little girls in skimpy leotards. giggidy

  25. Videos are harder to avoid by tatman · · Score: 1

    I don't want videos to autoplay (I am looking forward to chromes update to prevent videos from autoplaying). Making more videos over content is clearly a misguided understanding of viewers, at least for me. Typically I am listening to music when I browse. Nothing more annoying that some @#$@# video playing while I am listening to music.

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    1. Re:Videos are harder to avoid by tepples · · Score: 1

      Chrome for Android doesn't autoplay videos unless they're marked as muted in the HTML.

  26. I don't get it by dnaumov · · Score: 1

    Do they seriously expect me to constantly disturb everyone around me by playing video with sound on my smartphone? In a world where people have less and less available time, they expect me to sit through 10-20 minute videos instead of reading through the same content in a couple of minutes? Yeah, not gonna happen.

  27. To many werds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wherz da news babe too reed dis sumery in a vid. iTs two long.

  28. Didn't mic just shit down a video service? by fortfive · · Score: 1

    I can't recall the clever name, but it was on my atv. I watched it once in a while, and often remembered thinking it was interesting information and ideas being oresented and it'd sure be swell to read about them.

  29. fewer places to go for news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I want to watch a video I watch TV.

      Now get off my lawn

  30. Tethering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I often use my laptop with my cell phone, which gives only a couple paltry gigabytes of tether data/mo, and when I get a video ad, it eats up my data conveying the same information that a static .pngcwould do. I get pissed off, and I don't visit the site anymore, thus depriving the site of more ad views/clicks. I can use an ad blocker, but the end result for them would be the same.

    How about ads that are static, terse and gets to the point without a ton of
    moronic fluff?

  31. images by bugs2squash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Videos rank right up there with my other pet peeve - people sending me pictures of text they want me to analyse for troubleshooting.

    They fetched such and such a (huge) URL or they submitted this (huge) query and got such and such an error so they send me a screenshot. Now I have to type the whole thing in to reproduce their issue.

    To top it, they usually resize the image to make it smaller for email so now the text is minuscule and blurry too.

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  32. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mic was a toxic piece of shit that published hateful, bigoted, ignorant, clickbait content and pushed a narrative at all costs to the truth.

    Fuck them and fuck everyone who worked for them to perpetuate that.

  33. Next bubble? by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    So next to burst is the big video bubble I guess

  34. Fuck the talking heads by macraig · · Score: 1

    That is all.

  35. I see the logic by blackest_k · · Score: 1

    Stupid people find reading difficult and watching video easy. Who's going to buy your product? Readers tend to think watchers not so much. For advertisers the case for video is strong.

  36. Not just young Americans... by vanyel · · Score: 1

    I'm nearly 59 and I hate video news as well. The only exception is if there's actually something visual and moving to show, and even then I'd rather have text with the story and a link to the clip.

  37. A picture's worth a thousand words by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    some folks are just visual learners. You can pack a lot more information in a video if you try. But you're correct. If it's the same information you'd have gotten from reading it's frustrating (unless it's something along the lines of a podcast, I can't read when I'm driving, for example).

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  38. out of sync with audience demand by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    Digg.com is a poster child of that phrase

    Since Digg came out with their much vaunted version 4 at the end of August, the social media blogs have documented in detail the trail of disaster which will surely become a case study in how to screw up a social site in business courses across the land. http://www.techradar.com/news/...

  39. FUCK Mic - Qatar propaganda! by sproketboy · · Score: 1

    Look who funds it.

  40. autoplay muted by boojumbadger · · Score: 1

    The prevalence of auto-play videos that run in a small box, muted, and are difficult to block is likely to be taken as evidence that people are consuming the media, and as such, want more. After all if your browser is recieving them it counts as a play for advertising purposes. The whole thing is a scam feedback loop to drive claims of general popular support.

    Most of the time I close the page as soon as I see them but by that time it is already too late.

  41. Fahrenheit 452 by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    Actually ubiquitous autoplaying video content is just another step in project MKRAGE to turn us all into constantly pissed off raving lunatics intent in nothing more than the destruction of the no-me.
    cf 2016 election onwards

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  42. What about deaf people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope they all sue because there are no closed captions.

  43. This again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are no millennials, there is no avocado toast, and they are not killing businesses. They do not exist. The entire muhlenniuhl bullshit is completely made up by the media so they can feign outrage at a bogeyman for clicks.

  44. Missing the real point by Headw1nd · · Score: 1

    I'm way to late and nobody's going to see this, but the real point of video vs text is that it's harder to copy video without acknowledging the original source. This is why the news networks love it. CNN can write a story, I can scrape it with a bot and put it on my website, with my ads and no credit to them-no problem. I can also take CNN's video and host it, but when I do it obviously came from CNN. Even if I use it to push my ads, the viewer knows it's not my content, and will be more likely to look straight to the source next time. This logic applies even moreso to people who do instructional material, why put a bunch of effort into a text that will be shamelessly copied and used on some scammy website? With a video the content is inherently connected with name recognition and is easily traced back to the creator.

    I hate it because I would rather read, but I understand why it's happening.

    1. Re:Missing the real point by Woeful+Countenance · · Score: 1

      I'm way to late and nobody's going to see this ....

      I saw it!

      "This logic applies even moreso to people who do instructional material ....

      "moreso" should be just "more".

    2. Re:Missing the real point by Headw1nd · · Score: 1

      Leave it to a copy editor to be searching through the long tail of the comments. Thanks though.

  45. Moving to videos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I click on a link to an article and it starts a video I shut it off. If I can't kill the video, I leave the site.

    I have no interest in sitting through a video to see if there is anything of interest. I an quickly skim a written article to see if it is worth reading. Naturally my browser preferences are going to change to reflect being better able to control the content. Chrome's days are probably numbered on my machine.

  46. My videos are great !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thethreeweekdietsystem1.blogspot.com , give a looks please ! thanks

  47. Here's your subbed video. Happy? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Hard subs or DVD-style image-of-text subs would work for the seeing deaf, and I imagine it'd be hard to find enough deafblind users to build standing.

  48. Not for me. by DdJ · · Score: 1

    This is why I wrote a browser extension for my main desktop browser that literally blocks it from being able to play any media (video or audio) at all. I'd rather do without YouTube and Netflix on the desktop than have to deal will this deluge of crap.