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In Our Cynical Age, No One Fails Anymore -- Everybody 'Pivots' (nytimes.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The "pivot" has assumed a peculiar place in our common lexicon. A word once used to describe a guard angling for position on the basketball court is now in wide circulation in politics and business. That's especially the case in Silicon Valley, where pivoting has become the new failure, a concept to describe a haphazard, practically madcap form of iterative development. With its sheen of management-speak, pivoting is well suited to our moment. And like any act of public relations, pivoting is also a performance. A key part of the act is acknowledging that you are doing it while trying to recast the effort as something larger, more sophisticated, highly planned. The pivot, though it arises from desperation, is nevertheless supposed to appear methodical. The word seems to have first gained currency in Silicon Valley through the efforts of Eric Ries, author of "The Lean Startup." Ries defines pivoting as "a change in strategy without a change in vision." Many successful start-ups now claim a pivot as their origin story. Slack began its life as a video-game company before realizing that its actual value might lie in a chat app the company used to communicate internally. The company is now considered to be worth at least $5 billion, putting it among the most successful pivoters of all time. (Other web staples -- YouTube, Groupon, Instagram -- began life in vastly different iterations before pivoting into their current forms.) There's a promise of technocratic efficiency with pivoting, that all you require is a good business plan, and perhaps another injection of venture capital, and you can transform yourself overnight.

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  1. Sounds like they succeeded by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    Sounds like they're a successful company if one of their products didn't pan out but a different venture of theirs did. Did they still pivot and not fail if they just went bankrupt?

    1. Re:Sounds like they succeeded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Exactly. A company isn't in business to push a particular product, they're in business to make money.

      Many companies don't recognize that and fail.

      The only reason for a company to continue to manufacture and market a product is because that's the highest return they can get from their current assets... if that stops being the case, they should figure out an alternate way to generate revenue---perhaps even liquidating the assets and reinvesting into other businesses (kinda like what Berkshire did).

    2. Re:Sounds like they succeeded by avandesande · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lots of companies pivot and fail too. There is confirmation bias at work here- nobody hears about all the failures unless they burn through a bunch of venture capitol or something...

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    3. Re:Sounds like they succeeded by galabar · · Score: 1

      Yes. Don't the examples seem to refute the premise?

    4. Re:Sounds like they succeeded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a capital idea!

    5. Re:Sounds like they succeeded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see pivoting more as a partial failure. They haven't completely failed until they run out of money.

      If they pivot into a completely different business and start making lots of money, are they still a failure?

      Granted, there are some companies who only seem good at taking investors' money, too.

    6. Re:Sounds like they succeeded by Darinbob · · Score: 3

      A lot of the times, the "pivot" is to fire everyone and sell the office equipment.

    7. Re:Sounds like they succeeded by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Failure is a bad word. Failure isn't a bad thing. Fail, fail, fail again, and you'll end up finding something to succeed with. You just have to keep at it.

    8. Re:Sounds like they succeeded by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      If a person keeps at it, they can start 5 business ventures. The businesses each fail if they go bankrupt; they don't fail if they find some marketable product.

      It's like going out to hunt deer and getting a moose. ... close enough; hunt successful. If you come back with nothing (or a rabbit) YOU FAIL.

  2. Makes sense by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 2

    How are you supposed to use the word "fail" in a PowerPoint to peddle VCs money???

    1. Re:Makes sense by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      If you want VC money you better start using Keynote instead of PowerPoint.

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  3. what's old is new again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We used to just call that 'reinventing ourselves'

    1. Re:what's old is new again by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Yeah but we're in 2017 and "Re-maker ourselves" doesn't sound as good.

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    2. Re:what's old is new again by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Or in the military, advancing in a different direction.

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    3. Re:what's old is new again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And before that, we used to call it "picking yourself up and dusting yourself off".

      So you tried and failed. We all have. The successful get back up and try again, with improved knowledge and experience.

    4. Re:what's old is new again by plopez · · Score: 2

      Strategic realignment of objectives

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  4. agile development by mbkennel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am pivoting the plan. Pray, I do not pivot it further. You know it would be unfortunate if I had to leave a McKinsey garrison here.

    1. Re:agile development by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      I am pivoting the plan. Pray, I do not pivot it further.

      Why not? That's how you find out the best plan for you in linear programming, after all.

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    2. Re:agile development by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You know it would be unfortunate if I had to leave a McKinsey garrison here.

      Finally, an entire army of onsite customer representatives!

  5. Here's your pivot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I need a hero
    I'm holdin' out for a hero 'til the end of the night
    and he's gotta be strong
    and he's gotta be fast
    and he's gotta be fresh from the fight

    1. Re:Here's your pivot! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1
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  6. Not first post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First post!

    You pivoted it!

  7. Epic Pivot by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Funny

    This article is an Epic Pivot.

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    1. Re:Epic Pivot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      basement = pivot

  8. Everything old is new again by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    folks not accepting responsibility for negative outcomes is hardly new. OTOH 'pivot' doesn't always mean that. It also means "X didn't work out so let's go do Y". Apple 'pivoted' from a general PC manufacturer to a boutique electronics company and it worked out pretty well for them. Meanwhile Blockbuster dug their heels in and we can see how well that turned out.

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    1. Re:Everything old is new again by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Informative

      Pet peeve: Blockbuster did not dig in their heels. They spent hundreds of millions trying to build a streaming service in 1998/1999, prior to Netflix. Their contractor turned out to be be running a giant scam (not just on Blockbuster, it was a multi-billion dollar scam), and took their money and market position and blew it.

      Look, there are plenty of examples of companies failing to anticipate the future, there's no reason to conflate that with the ones that fail to correctly implement what they can see.

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  9. Cynical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That doesn't mean what you think it does. Trying to make the best narrative of course change doesn't seem "cynical" to me.

    1. Re:Cynical? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Yeah, seems more like the cynic would be the person calling out the 'pivot' as a failure.

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    2. Re:Cynical? by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Correct. A better term might be 'positivity era.'

    3. Re:Cynical? by plopez · · Score: 1

      that would be double plus good

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  10. Oh well by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    That's an Epic Pivot for you.

    Nah, it sounds wrong.

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    1. Re:Oh well by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Damn, Oswald McWeany beat me to it.

      Epic Pivot on my part.

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  11. What about an organization like moz://a? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What do you think about an organization like moz://a?

    At first they didn't have much success. Mozilla Suite didn't see much use.

    But then they got lucky with Firefox. It actually managed to get approximately 35% of the browser market at its peak. This allowed them to sign some lucrative deals with Google, and then Yahoo.

    However, since then we've seen Firefox's market share drop off severely. The latest stats put it at maybe 5%, if we're feeling generous. They have essentially no mobile presence.

    We haven't seen much happen with their other projects. Thunderbird was mildly successful, but it has essentially been abandoned. Bugzilla is seen as a relic now. SeaMonkey is quite irrelevant.

    They've had a project like Persona, that really went nowhere. Firefox OS was pretty much a disaster.

    Now we see them wasting resources on their Rust programming language, and the Servo browser engine they're writing in Rust. Neither of these projects is making any impressive progress.

    Lately we've seen them expand into questionable things like "battling information pollution", and changing their logo to the absurd "moz://a".

    Should these various efforts, including the failed ones, be considered "pivots"?

    Their current deal with Yahoo is to end in 2019, I believe. With Firefox's ever-dropping market share, and no mobile presence, I find it hard to believe that any company would want to sign a similar deal with moz://a. Even if a deal were signed, I can't see it being as lucrative as their past deals. After all, a browser with 2% or less of the market is pretty much irrelevant.

    What would they "pivot" to doing if Firefox ends up with essentially no users?

    If they "pivot" to so-called "social justice" initiatives and other politically-driven causes, should they even be considered a software or a technology company any longer?

    1. Re:What about an organization like moz://a? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Fail fast" is vastly misunderstood. It's not about trying to fail, but recognizing failure and shifting focus / reshaping like a true shapeshifter, in order to "pivot" into a potential new successful trajectory. It's important to foster a culture of individuality and independence, so that recognition can be instant.

      The main reason behind this, is also marginally understood, even in /. circles. VCs know this by heart as it's their core business model.

      Captcha: attempts

    2. Re: What about an organization like moz://a? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Your choice of language made it abundantly clear that you have a beef with Mozilla for whatever reason. It completely overshadowed whatever point you were trying to make.

      Look at Mozilla sitting over there eating crackers like it owns the place.meme

    3. Re:What about an organization like moz://a? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Fail fast" is vastly misunderstood. It's not about trying to fail, but recognizing failure and shifting focus / reshaping like a true shapeshifter, in order to "pivot" into a potential new successful trajectory. It's important to foster a culture of individuality and independence, so that recognition can be instant.

      "Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks."

    4. Re: What about an organization like moz://a? by KGIII · · Score: 2

      You know, now that I think about it, that's one of the stupidest sayings. All you've done is move fecal matter and gotten some of it stuck to the wall. Maybe not throwing shit is a better idea?

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    5. Re:What about an organization like moz://a? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mozilla seems to be burning their money on useless things. At least I cannot see how things like Rust and Servo will benefit them. You usually don't get better software by re-writing in a different language. The 'policially-driven' stuff probably doesn't help either; it's too easy to alienate users this way.

      OTOH many companies that should be bankrupt already are somehow still in business, think Yahoo. So maybe Mozilla will limb along as well.

  12. Sounds like Pringles, the tennis ball company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of tennis balls they got potatoes shipped to them. So they said fuck it and sliced 'em up.

    1. Re:Sounds like Pringles, the tennis ball company by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      The smell of salt sells better than the smell of rubber. As to which tastes better, you need to ask her.

    2. Re:Sounds like Pringles, the tennis ball company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They seem like a really laid-back company.

    3. Re:Sounds like Pringles, the tennis ball company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does salt smell like, creimer?

    4. Re:Sounds like Pringles, the tennis ball company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like... like... bags of sand, man.

      That's creimer's go-to description for every sensory experience he's never had.

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  14. Oh, I fail, all right. . . by dtmos · · Score: 1

    . . . and so have my businesses. Early and often. I think the reason I have had success is that I know the difference between success and failure, and learn from the latter to get the former.

    Still not sure about this "pivoting," though.

    1. Re:Oh, I fail, all right. . . by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      As my first engineering lead (a fatalistic Russian Jew who escaped over the Iron Curtain), used to say: you only learn from failure, never success. Success can be dumb luck but failure is all you.

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    2. Re:Oh, I fail, all right. . . by dtmos · · Score: 2

      Indeed. Truer words were never spoken. One may think, but one never actually knows, how close one is to failure until it actually occurs. Failures are, therefore, the only events from which one can learn.

    3. Re:Oh, I fail, all right. . . by plopez · · Score: 1

      That's a fundamental theorem in Information Theory

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  15. If you can't recognize failure by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    You probably don't award anyone but shareholders for success.

    if you learn from your failures, you will be much better off in the long term.

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  17. The world has not changed just the words used. by gurps_npc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Look, it is not true that no one fails. Tons of people fail. ISIS has failed. Radio Shack has failed. Sears has failed.

    But once someone fails, we stop talking about them (with the possible exception of politicians.) So you stop thinking about them.

    That only leaves the successful people. By definition, they did not fail, no matter how badly a previous project went. They overcame their failure and went on to success, usually by taking what they learned and trying something different.

    This is the exact same the thing that every one else has done. ALL THE TIME. The company "3M" failed to create a super strong adhesive for use in the aerospace industry, so they took what they did create and "pivoted" into post it notes.

    George Washington failed almost all his battles, but took what he learned and pivoted into a sneak attack at Valley Forge. Coca Cola failed at "New Coke" but pivoted back into success.

    This is not a new thing, it is just a new word for something that everyone has been doing for thousands of years.

    And a fool that is wining about successful people overcoming their mistakes instead of 'admitting' they failed.

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    1. Re:The world has not changed just the words used. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      George Washington failed almost all his battles, but took what he learned and pivoted into a sneak attack at Valley Forge.

      It's more like he wore the British out, not outright failed. They were away from home in a strange land, and he just kept moving them around and around. US soldiers would rotate in and out, go back home to rest up and come back. He discovered attrition was our advantage. Most his battles were more or less break-evens, but the Brits didn't want to keep playing the break-even game.

    2. Re:The world has not changed just the words used. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's more the PR than anything else. Google can't admit any of its initiatives are failures (G+), Apple couldn't own up to antennagate, Microsoft refuses to come to terms with Windows 10, Windows Phone, or the Xbox One, Hillary Clinton can't admit she's a failure as a politician, and even US foreign policy can't own up to the miserable failure of Obama's "pivot to Asia."

      So no, no one will ever get a major entity to admit it failed, as that would imply it knows it did something wrong.

    3. Re:The world has not changed just the words used. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That, and also the British had been fighting the French and Indians for much longer before the Revolutionary War. So attrition was going on before that.

      The Yanks just took advantage of the situation, and allied themselves with the French. Or they "pivoted" if you like.

      Now we're back on topic.

    4. Re:The world has not changed just the words used. by avandesande · · Score: 1

      new coke was just marketing for the switch to corn syrup, a change they never reversed

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    5. Re:The world has not changed just the words used. by gurps_npc · · Score: 0

      Most of what you said is true, but your partisan beliefs are showing. To be balanced, just as Hillary failed as a politician and Obama pivoted to Asia:

      Bannon (and the more than 10 other 'resigned'/fired Trump appointees ) failed as a politician. Cripes, if a Democrat had Trump's problem holding onto people, Fox would be talking about how he's trying to solve unemployment by giving everyone in the nation a white job on their resume.

      As for Trump, he clearly failed to get Mexico to pay for the wall, failed to repeal and replace Obamacare and failed to stop the war in Afghanistan. I am not going to talk about the things he considers a success that most of the country disagrees about, this is just the things that are not in dispute

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    6. Re:The world has not changed just the words used. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [citation needed]

      Because otherwise I am pretty sure that you're wrong about that.

    7. Re:The world has not changed just the words used. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      George Washington failed almost all his battles, but took what he learned and pivoted into a sneak attack at Valley Forge.

      I'm a little rusty on my US history, but I'm pretty sure Valley Forge was an encampment site and not a battle site...

      Or did you mean that was where he decided to change his strategy?

  18. A rose by any other name would smell as fail. by TheStickBoy · · Score: 1

    A rose by any other name would smell as fail.

  19. Participation Trophy Recipients Grew Up by brian.stinar · · Score: 1

    This is what happens when everyone that is given a participation trophy grows up. They try and change the use of language to remove the concept of failure.

    There are many, many, many, times I failed. I tried to learn something from those failures, usually afterwards, with lots of retrospection, regret, and alcohol, but they were still complete and utter disasters. To call them a "pivot" is silly, even though they all involved major changes after the chips fell. This is both personally, and in terms of decisions I made for my software company.

    I apologize - I was only able to make it through the first two paragraphs of this article before I was reminded of why I do not subscribe to the New York Times, and pivoted to writing a comment.

    1. Re:Participation Trophy Recipients Grew Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But so what? It sounds like subby only wants to be able to rub failure in somebody's face. If you "pivot" and succeed then in what way is it a "failure"? What exactly is a "failure"?

    2. Re:Participation Trophy Recipients Grew Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could blame golden parachutes for the same thing. Hell, even major sporting events can be blamed. The winner of a boxing match gets $180 million, and the loser has to make do with $120 million.

  20. Re:Such are the modern times we live in... by peragrin · · Score: 1

    Sounds more like he used the money from one business that is slowing down and moved to a new better business with higher profit dollars. The more you earn the more you can do. It is why the 1% don't think twice about bankruptcy as it still leaves them with millions in assets to rebuild with.

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  21. Nothing new, just adaptation. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    Going down in flames from conducting business as usual is something people want to avoid. For this reason, they radically modify their strategy to succeed. Such adaptations are now classified as "pivots" but it's just an attempt to optimize your actions to achieve your goals (which may also change). This isn't new for businesses, it's just become more public due to the volatile nature of places like Silicon Valley.

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  22. Also called "Adapting" by DalM · · Score: 1

    Failure sounds so final. "You failed at that." "Fail? My first plan didn't work out, I learned a lot and used that knowledge to do this other thing well."

  23. Beta? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this a subtle way of suggesting that Slashdot pivoted from beta and that it was not a failure?

  24. I'm falling/failing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I often here CEOs proudly brag about "building the plane in the air".

    You know why Boeing or Airbus don't build planes in the air? BECAUSE IT IS A HORRIBLE WAY TO BUILD A PLANE.

  25. Oracle by Sindar+By+Choice · · Score: 0

    Actually there is an Oracle clause called pivot, that can come in quite handy sometimes.

  26. Harsh judgements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    folks not accepting responsibility for negative outcomes is hardly new.

    That implies judgement. Sometimes, things just happen that cannot be predicted - actually nothing can be predicted because no one can predict the future; obviously. But in out twisted shallow culture, we are expected to predict the future and failure is a character flaw.

    The person who takes a risk ( taking a chance on the unknowable future) and succeeds, is considered a genius. The person who fails - and maybe ends up in the street - is someone who made "poor life choices".

    Tesla. It's a long shot - let's be real. Even if Musk does make 500,00 cars per year, what makes him think he'll sell that many every year?

    Maybe. Maybe not. (S's only do about 80K per year at best. The 3's? We'll see.)

    If he succeeds, he and his investors will look like geniuses.

    If he fails, he and his investors will look like a bunch of dreaming morons.

    The truth, he took a risk - a chance - and he and his investors are neither geniuses nor idiots.

    There is too much capriciousness in life for anyone to be even 50% responsible for what happens to them. And to judge people accordingly is delusional and harsh. And it shows life hasn't kicked you in the balls - yet. Wait it'll come.

    1. Re:Harsh judgements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gee, I don't know, maybe they could, you know, diversify in order to manage risk?

      The problem is that people believe what they're being taught, and never really start thinking, not about finance, business, not even about life itself.

    2. Re:Harsh judgements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Diversify? Tesla did - they have blacks, women, asians on their board, they are plenty diverse!

  27. Hmmm ... not so new ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So, I remember 25+ years ago a manager using pivot to mostly mean "place in your implementation plan where you could still have some flexibility in what you were doing but doesn't need to be decided now", with the "pivot points" being the point at which you assessed your options and decided which way to proceed.

    As much as the assholes in business, and especially in Silly-coin valley, can make certain terms trite and overused ... I'm pretty sure this was being used in engineering parlance at least 30 years ago to describe "this or that" choices in a process that didn't need to be made yet.

    In this case it's being applied retroactively to sound like "oh, we planned it that way". But, really, it was being used as "when we get here we'll do one of these options but for now we're not committed and we don't need to choose yet".

    Maybe the business people just stole a term from the engineering folks? When I first heard it, basketball was not even remotely a context I would have known about (I had to google it), and it was purely a degree of flexibility which still existed and which could be deferred for now.

    As much as I cringe about most business speak, this one actually matches engineering speak from a fair ways back. And most definitely not by people making basketball references.

    In my experience, the business side of the house steals terminology from the tech side of the house and then over-uses them, and this seems like one of those.

    1. Re:Hmmm ... not so new ... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure this was being used in engineering parlance at least 30 years ago to describe "this or that" choices in a process that didn't need to be made yet.

      It's meant an actual physical turning doohickey for a long time. Cannon which could traverse through a decent arc, as opposed to in a fairly fixed direction, were called pivot guns, for example.

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    2. Re:Hmmm ... not so new ... by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      Pivot sprinklers

    3. Re:Hmmm ... not so new ... by Bongo · · Score: 1

      Presumably someone somewhere is making some profit off of marketing a "new insight", one which has been made to sound appealing by using an aura of sport and battle, ie. the player who can in the moment perform some deeply insightful and skilled manoeuvre, etc.

      Maybe the article is publicity to try to sell someone's book or something, or some PR firm's new service.
      All part of the economy that's devoted to imaginary products and imaginary usefulness.

  28. Nailed it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is a strange notion that direct admission of failure is virtuous, and people who are quick to do this are reliable and successful.

    In reality...people respond to spin. Spindoctoring is a necessary skill in many endeavors. Saying the word "failure" can drive investors or clients away, whereas saying the exact same thing in nicer-sounding words can retain access to funding that is needed to succeed.

    Generally speaking, the more successful a person is, the better at spindoctoring they are. This has nothing to do with cynicism, and everything to do with how people respond to language.

    That's all.

    1. Re:Nailed it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Generally speaking, the more successful a person is, the better at spindoctoring they are. This has nothing to do with cynicism, and everything to do with how people respond to language.

      This is really only true in "soft disciplines" or in areas where the ability to lie to people is seen as a virtue -- basically politics and business.

      In the real world of people who work on objective criteria ... failed is a perfectly valid term and accurately conveys meaning... 'the experiment failed because ' ... 'the apparatus failed because' ... 'the bridge failed because' ... 'trickle down economics is a failure because it is predicated on a lie'.

      In disciplines where truth and rigor are important, people do not respond to spin doctoring. In fields where bafflegab and deflecting of blame are important, like finance, then it is much more convenient to fleece investors by obfuscating what you actually fucking meant.

      You know, like how Trump has glossed over his endless stream of failed business where he left someone else holding the bag to make it look like he's a successful businessman instead of a fucking con artist.

      So, yes, if you're a lying salesman, or an asshole politician, people will totally respond to spin, because it allows you to hide what really happened. In the evidence based world, it's a bullshit tactic used by dishonest players.

    2. Re:Nailed it. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Back in WWII, the Britiish General (later Field Marshal) Montgomery fought the Second Battle of El Alamein. He attacked the Germans, and the attack went nowhere. He switched plans, attacked in a different place (pivoted in this meaning of the term), and succeeded. Winning that battle got him a lot of fame.

      As far as spin goes, Montgomery said afterwards that everything had gone according to plan, and kept saying that about further battles. This meant that, when a subordinate was in a Montgomery operation that was failing, and the subordinate believed Montgomery's press releases, said subordinate would probably worry that the plan was falling apart. Well, it was, but Montgomery was good at switching plans, I mean pivoting, so things generally came out OK.

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    3. Re:Nailed it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and in direct contrast, in 1916 & 1917, Haig at the Somme and a year later at Passendaele (spelling varies) didn't pivot - both battles were kept on well past any point of diminishing returns and both in atrocious conditions and both grinding attrition against a dug-in enemy.

    4. Re: Nailed it. by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but he took it 'a bridge too far.'

      I'm not even remotely sorry for that. In fact, I'm kinda proud of it.

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  29. PIVOT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  30. OT: I think I finally getting the feel of pivots by k6mfw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    in ballroom dancing (foxtrot, waltz). Though I knew need to keep knees flexed, maintain consistent connection with dance partner along with "step into her and go around, she steps into me and go around" instead a twirl-twirl. The key item I learned when she goes around, I need to think of going forward on the left (but not really), and this was the big breakthrough for me. Unfortunately had to wait 17% into the 21st century to really get the feel.

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    mfwright@batnet.com
  31. TFA should have pivoted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you change your goals, its a failure? Sure, maybe. But its a failure at something you don't care about anymore.

    That's why they don't call it a failure. They use a more descriptive word because they have a writing vocabulary larger than say.. an average New York times blogger.

    The most important part of the article:

    Which brings us to Donald Trump,

    For crying out loud, really? TFA played the Trump card? Time to tear down the internet and start over. I don't want to live here anymore.

  32. Re:Dear Liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pivoting and Spinning are just modern synonyms for Lying

    Liars are doomed to fail, so just drop the bullshit and try to fucking be honest

    You may deal with some crybabies who would rather be lied to at first, but in the long run things will become much better

  33. customer by Frederic54 · · Score: 1

    > that all you require is a good business plan, and perhaps another injection of venture capital, and you can transform yourself overnight.

    No, you need customers, only things you need. If there is none or not enough in what you're doing, aim differently to reach them.

    --
    "Science will win because it works." - Stephen Hawking
    1. Re:customer by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      Don't tell that to the sub-prime Leverage Mortgage Debt Bundlers, who made off with billions when they crashed the world in 2007.

    2. Re: customer by KGIII · · Score: 1

      No, they had customers. That's why they made billions. They just weren't the customers you might have hoped for.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    3. Re: customer by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      No, they had victims, as in people sold one thing in lieu of the offered item.
      They were SOLD mortgages, what they GOT was paper diluted to negative value by merge and slice.

    4. Re: customer by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Those are still customers. It was an abusive relationship - like what one might get as an Oracle customer. Victims? Absolutely. Still, customers - even if victimized.

      Yeah, I just checked the dictionary. I'm pretty sure they were still considered customers.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    5. Re: customer by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      No, when you are exploited without another option (monopoly) you are not a consenting customer
      I take it you know nothing of Contract theory, obviously

  34. Basketball? by Quirkz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Seriously, you're citing basketball as the origin of this term?

    A word 400 years old, coming from French, that means to rotate or change direction, now has become owned by a sport?

    1. Re:Basketball? by burhop · · Score: 2

      Seriously, you're citing basketball as the origin of this term?

      A word 400 years old, coming from French, that means to rotate or change direction, now has become owned by a sport?

      It was a slam dunk for the author. He had the home court advantage given it was written in NYC.

    2. Re:Basketball? by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 1

      Seriously, you're citing basketball as the origin of this term?

      Yeah, if that isn't a sign of the miserable death of Slashdot as we knew it, I'm not sure what is.

    3. Re:Basketball? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I had a numerics instructor from India once who was talking about solving systems of linear equations (simple stuff, early in the class), and he referred to the technique of "pee-woting". Took a moment to realize that what he was saying was "pivoting".

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  35. More synergistic buzzwords to enhance strategic BS by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    if (speaker.phraseSpoken.contains("pivot")) {
      speaker.category=PHB;
    }

  36. What is so bad about 'failing' anyway? in order to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "fail" you have to TRY something.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw2qEUwFbGM

    (Garfunkel and Oats "You are such a loser" ... one of the most inspiring pieces if music i have heard recently)

    AC

  37. lavish praise by epine · · Score: 2

    Now we see them wasting resources on their Rust programming language, and the Servo browser engine they're writing in Rust. Neither of these projects is making any impressive progress.

    So, Mr Subjective, tell us how you really feel about Perl 6.

    Rust won first place for "most loved programming language" in the Stack Overflow Developer Survey in 2016 and 2017.

    I propose the Lavish Praise programming language.

    It stands for "LISP admittedly very impressive shit hot", although "perhaps Rust augments industrial systems engineering".

  38. Call it what you want, same shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Happens every decade or so they change all the buzzwords to make bad shit sound benign. You new here?

  39. A long dead friend put it thus... by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

    "When you fall down, quick, pick up something and hold it aloft shouting "EUREKA!" and pretend you MEANT to fall down"
    Thanks Greg. I've gotten away with more mistakes that way.

  40. Marketeer Speak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only reference I once knew was the pivot man in a circle jerk.

    Silicon Valley - Pied Piper needs to pivot?

  41. Let's pivot to a book recommendation... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    If you want to read about someone pivoting from failure to failure, read "Steve Jobs & The NeXT Big Thing" by Randall Stross. I hated reading the first half of this book because of the author's axe grinding against Steve Jobs, as the narrative in other books are always sympathetic to Steve Jobs. The other half of the book is where Steve Jobs pivots from all the mistakes that would end up reducing NeXT from a computer company to a software company. This book stops several years before Apple buys out NeXT and Pixar became successful. For that story, and my favorite Steve Jobs book, you need to read "The Second Coming of Steve Jobs" by Alan Deutschman.

    1. Re:Let's pivot to a book recommendation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:Let's pivot to a book recommendation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that you creimer? the real links are Steve Jobs Next Big Thing and Second Coming of Steve Jobs. Blind freddy could see all the bs in that link.

    3. Re:Let's pivot to a book recommendation... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Is that you creimer?

      Nope. Just some troll being cute by re-posting my links.

    4. Re:Let's pivot to a book recommendation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be sure to click the links and help pay for creimer's Chicken McNuggets. Go on--you know you want to.

    5. Re:Let's pivot to a book recommendation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So where's the book on Job's pivot from to listening to his doctors when he had an operable, treatable form of cancer to wasting time on alternative medicines that did nothing to help him?

    6. Re:Let's pivot to a book recommendation... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      So where's the book on Job's pivot from to listening to his doctors when he had an operable, treatable form of cancer to wasting time on alternative medicines that did nothing to help him?

      "The Third Coming of Steve Jobs" haven't been written yet.

  42. Re:More synergistic buzzwords to enhance strategic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No null checks for speaker or speaker.phraseSpoken or comments saying they'll always be non-null. The pivot check only looks for lowercase. Sigh.

  43. That one all-purpose Twitter error page... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    It's now going to be a cute little Pivot Porpoise.

  44. Pivot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pivot?
    As far as I'm concerned they can just swivel.

  45. george carlin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    explained it better

  46. How optimistic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone pivots, no one every throws good money after bad anymore! And I've got a couple of bridges to sell you.

  47. Re:More synergistic buzzwords to enhance strategic by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    "Contains" processes it case-neutral. Mass null-checks are only for stupid API's. Good ones rarely need them. Some fockers like to type and read bloat all day.

  48. I don't pivot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I flip-flop.

    1. Re:I don't pivot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I throw in the towel.

  49. When the left makes excuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's because participation trophies are being handed out to the precious snowflakes.

    When the right makes excuses, it's because they're adapting to the tough deal that was handed to them which was no fault of their own.

  50. it's lovely that we have enough self awareness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to point out when this affects others, dear.

  51. Survival Bias, A Lot Still Fail by n329619 · · Score: 1

    This is 100% BS Survival Bias. You don't hear about the 90% who failed because they've failed. They've failed to even show you that they've failed.

    Every time you see a store close down and newer one getting in (ex: a new Walmart), there's a high chance it is because the old one failed. It could be financial, commercial, management, competition or other cause of failure, but we will never know. This is especially when no one likes to talk about failure.

    News like "nytimes" and the media don't show it because it is not exciting to talk about failure. Have the media ever show the the 4th, 5th and 10th winner of a contents? no? That basically proves the point.

    The internet is wide enough to show the other side. There are still plenty of failure. In Our Cynical Age, A Lot Still Fail -- Everybody 'Hides in a Corner' when they do.

  52. Lower costs allow more dramatic pivots by erice · · Score: 1

    While pivoting is not really new, it now happens more often (sometimes multiple times for the same company) and it no longer unusual for a pivot to have little at all to do with the original idea.

    If it costs years and tens of millions of dollars to reach product, you don't generally see dramatic pivots. But when you can reach product in months with handful of employees and no capital equipment, the team becomes the most valuable asset. Preserve that in you pivot and you really haven't lost much. That's a far cry from specialized machinery, purpose built buildings, and years of non-transferable research. In the later case, you are likely to see product refinement in pursuit of a somewhat different market but not a full scale pivot where you throw almost everything out and start over.

  53. This Industry Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As much as I enjoy new technology and cool gadgets, I hate the trendy, buzzword-addled proteges, behaving as though their new app is going to improve mankind.

    They used to be mocked, as the stuff they touted was already done by existing software, but now everyone is itching to make big money by jumping on the latest bandwagon before the IPO.

    Now all I see around me are young, hipster douchebags in skinny jeans and needing a haircut, tweeting to each other about how it's all integrated and "just works."

    I wasted too much of my life in this industry to deal with this until I retire. This curmudgeonly old-schooler needs a new career. I won't call this one a failure, just a pivot to something better.

  54. All BSers pivot; not all pivoters are BS by engineerErrant · · Score: 1

    While this is an excellent example of silicon valley BS-speak that really means something else, it reminds me a lot of the right-wing code words we hear so often these days: "law and order," "unity," "freedom," etc. We all know what these words really mean, when spoken by certain people.

    But, these phrases were all chosen for the honor of being used to cover up dumbness for a reason - because they do represent good ideas, when they are used genuinely and not as some flimsy sheep's clothing for something else. Much like freedom, pivots are good - when they are real. They *can* represent innovation, humility and persistence. Netflix used to send me DVDs in the mail, but they pivoted into the world's streaming overlord. A previous poster mentioned others, all valid.

    I'd probably try to focus fire on the hypocrisy of the cover-up rather than on the cover being used.

  55. Necessity is the Mother of Invention by pz · · Score: 1

    Q1: What do you do when your business plan is failing, but you have an excellent group of motivated people working for you?

    A1: Try another plan.

    Q2: What happens when that plan starts to fail?

    A2: See Answer 1.

    Happens all the time, at least to a well-led company.

    --

    Put my fist through my alarm clock with its ding-dong death inside my ear. - The Blackjacks.
  56. Re:OT: I think I finally getting the feel of pivot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, remember the pair of you are both pivoting around a point (as a pair), not you pivoting around a point on your own feet...

  57. Re:Such are the modern times we live in... by plopez · · Score: 1

    Capitalism is great if you have capital.

    --
    putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
  58. Re:What is so bad about 'failing' anyway? in order by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had never heard of those two before, and wondered, "Did Art Garfunkel and John Oates...?" Quite glad to be wrong about that. :-D

    I also recommend "The Loophole". It's clever, and they're kinda cute in those schoolgirl uniforms.

    Thanks for the pointer.

  59. I just pivoted my exams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always win.

  60. Definition of the ideal pivot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are working on a project, then BAM it turns out that approach won't work. Then you pivot off in an alternate design approach and say all is good because "You Failed Fast!" Pivots are just a blame the system failure, that way everyone gets an I participated medal!