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Windows 10 Fall Creators Update to Arrive October 17 (thurrott.com)

Posted by msmash on from the next-act dept.

An anonymous reader shares a report: Microsoft announced this morning that the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update will be made available worldwide on October 17, in step with a new lineup of Windows Mixed Reality headsets that require this release. "We are coming up on our fourth major update to Windows 10, and our mission with these updates is to create a platform that inspires your creativity," Microsoft corporate vice president Terry Myerson says. "The next update of Windows 10, the Fall Creators Update, will be available worldwide October 17. With the Fall Creators Update, we are introducing some fun, new ways to get creative." The Fall Creators Update will upgrade Windows 10 to version 1709 and it brings a number of new features and improvements, especially to key experiences like gaming, security, and photos. But no new technology weighs as heavily on this update as Windows Mixed Reality, Microsoft's attempt to take virtual reality (VR) and mixed reality (MR) mainstream.

60 comments

  1. Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've been dying to have windows crap out for 3 hours right in the middle of what I'm trying to get done.

  2. Uh-oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since they can't delay this for serious bugs thanks to the new hardware being dependent on it, all I can say is "Danger Will Robinson."

    Expect problems.

  3. October 18 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    visit mom.

  4. Windows Needs a Segmented Build by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All of these trendy new features are lovely, but if you aren't spendy enough to have the latest and greatest hardware (with, probably, alpha drivers that won't work 1/2 the time) you don't need it. So how about a Windows build that's segmented - only loads the features your hardware supports? After all, Windows knows everything about your computer (and arguably you) by now. If I don't have VR hardware, why do I need VR support? That could be added later if I ever get it, which will never happen with the desktop (and probably not the old laptop, and *definitely* not the cheapo tablet) anyway. The cheapo tablet, in particular, needs to have Windows that doesn't have unusable features.

    1. Re:Windows Needs a Segmented Build by Gr8Apes · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I don't have VR hardware, why do I need VR support?

      Because... Ponies!!!

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    2. Re:Windows Needs a Segmented Build by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because what you are saying is already done. Window's loaded memory footprint has been reducing with each release since Vista. What you're complaining about is harddisk space, and not some running bloat that will slow down your system.

    3. Re:Windows Needs a Segmented Build by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because... Lineucks!!!

    4. Re: Windows Needs a Segmented Build by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. Win10 is more bloated than anything else. From 95 to 8.1 the start menu/screen existed in Explorer.exe, now there are 3 processes involved just to open it. Several new background services have been added as well. 10 is slower and uses more memory than anything before it.

  5. What's important to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    is what new ways Microsoft will use to hoover up my personal data and social connections. That's what I'm excited about.

    1. Re: What's important to me by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 0, Troll

      It's what Microsoft will use to compete with Apple and Google in scooping up your personal data and connections.

  6. Time for a visit by kbg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just great. On 17 october I will have to go to all my relatives to fix their computer because of this untested crap update.

    Thanks Microsoft.

    1. Re:Time for a visit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Untested, hah. Over 2 Billion PCs, millions of different configurations and very few, by a percentage, problems. Sure it sucks if you are one of the ones with an issue, probably due to some other underlying issue like age, malware or unnecessary tweaking putting it in an unsupported and untestable mode by 'experts' who know what they are doing with their 'optimizations'.

      People like you scream for perfection then complain about stagnation.

      You don't have to use their products.

    2. Re:Time for a visit by JohnFen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most of my friends use Window 10 (some computer literate, some not).

      For the past couple of updates, when they were released, about half of them had showstopper issues.

      There's a selection bias, of course -- my friends are probably not representative of the entire population, but a 50% failure rate in that group makes me suspect that the overall failure rate is rather higher than a small percentage.

    3. Re:Time for a visit by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Well if they are too tight to shell out for a pro version of Windows that lets them defer feature updates then they have to participate in the beta testing of their free OS.

    4. Re:Time for a visit by Sporkinum · · Score: 1

      400 million or so on Windows 10. A small percentage of those are early adopters who are testing the new version. Lets say a 10th of a percent, so maybe 400,000 pc are testing the new version, and I am sure there are plenty of problems, and tons of missed hardware configurations.

      I'm sure there will be plenty of problems with the new release, and it's always smart to put it off as long as possible.

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    5. Re:Time for a visit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't heard ANYONE complain about stagnation. Nice straw man though, you shill.

    6. Re:Time for a visit by JohnFen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In fairness, there was one entity complaining about stagnation: Microsoft.

      Microsoft was making a lot of noise about how awful it is that people take their time about moving to new Windows versions (obviously, those people weren't worried about stagnation!). Windows 10 was Microsoft's way of fixing that problem: force everyone.

    7. Re:Time for a visit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Choose better friends.

    8. Re:Time for a visit by chipschap · · Score: 1

      You don't have to use their products.

      Absolutely right, and I've followed that advice for years with no ill effects.

    9. Re:Time for a visit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the other realities, commercial software is tested by the vendor before they give it to customers. But in current MS era, whenever code finally compiles, they force push it to their customers and let PR department handle possible aftermath.

    10. Re:Time for a visit by kbg · · Score: 1

      This is why you should not release new features in a fixpack for the current OS version. Instead you release a new version of the OS with those new features or better yet don't bundle the new features into the OS but bundle them as a separate pack that can be downloaded.

      People like you scream for perfection then complain about stagnation.

      No I only scream for perfection given that Microsoft has unlimited amount of money which means they should have 100% QA.

      I don't have to use their products, but unfortunately most people are using Windows so that means most of the time it will have to be me to fix my relatives and friends computers.

  7. Nice to have a heads-up by JohnFen · · Score: 1

    I'll warn all my friends.

  8. Thanks for the warning by ilsaloving · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'll forward this on to people along with instructions on how to delay the update (since Microsoft says "no control for you!").

    I'm still livid over their Anniversary update which hosed every single "Designed for Windows 10" Lenovo laptop we had.

  9. I wonder if Apple will support the headsets also by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    With Apple making a big push for ARKit, I would not be surprised if Apple also supports and helps development for the mixed reality headsets coming out for Windows.... Probably not this year though.

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  10. Unlike last time... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Will the new update install on my Dell laptop or will I need to wipe the SSD for a fresh install?

    1. Re:Unlike last time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Begin by wiping the inside of your head:
      https://tinyurl.com/ya7u8n5s

  11. What about corporate users? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why are they screwing over corporate users with the constant updates and discontinuing support for older versions?

    There are versions of Windows 10 that will no longer get security updates and we can't upgrade beyond those versions due to lack of hardware support (for reasons unknown).

    MS needs to get their act together for their business customers.

    1. Re:What about corporate users? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use the LTS release that is intended for exactly this reason?

  12. Ask Slashdot: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Why do you always advertise Microsoft/Apple/Google products here?

    I thought that this was a techie site, not a spammer one. Oh well, live and learn...

    1. Re:Ask Slashdot: by JohnFen · · Score: 2

      It's not so much advertising as it is fair warning.

    2. Re:Ask Slashdot: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not a troll. It was an honest question. Too much down modding going on, and it's ruining the ability to filter out the truly garbage/spamming posts.

      The question remains unanswered. Why is this place engaging in so much advertising through product placement? The readership needs to demand that it be stopped!

  13. Not hating by DatbeDank · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But the last update borked my install of Windows so badly that I had to wipe it and reinstall. Bluetooth wasn't working right and my audio was cutting in and out.

    Will DEFINITELY be deferring this one for a good month.

  14. Why is M$ going "Creative"? by TheDarkener · · Score: 2

    I mean I understand their reasoning of wanting to get "Developers!" but seriously, that's not been their thing most of their corporate life. That's Apple's thing, being creative hippie acid taking hackers. Microsoft is about corporate culture, suit-and-tie business deal money makers. Why are they afraid of who they really are?

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    1. Re:Why is M$ going "Creative"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple envy has always been in their DNA. Now midlife crisis is setting in, and they're going the extra mile to be cool.

    2. Re:Why is M$ going "Creative"? by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      That's Apple's thing, being creative hippie acid taking hackers.

      Yeah, that stopped being Apple's thing back around when the first Mac was introduced. It's certainly part of their carefully crafted marketing image, though.

    3. Re:Why is M$ going "Creative"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Developers!" That was more than 17 years ago. Obviously, they got them.

    4. Re:Why is M$ going "Creative"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that stopped being Apple's thing back around when the first Mac was introduced.

      They used to get their drugs from Berkeley, now they get their operating system from Berkeley.

    5. Re:Why is M$ going "Creative"? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      "Creators" != "Creative". I'm creating an Excel spreadsheet on Windows 10. Woo!

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      Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
    6. Re:Why is M$ going "Creative"? by chipschap · · Score: 1

      And then there's FOSS. Their "thing" is freedom. Freedom to choose. Freedom to configure. Freedom to hack into something and make it work yourself. Freedom to have a working system at all times!

      Your post is actually "très cool" but I'll dispute your last point a little. My FOSS (Linux) system works at all times. When something is wrong, it is true that I often have to take a certain amount of responsibility (which can at times be as much as 100%) for fixing it.

      The point is that I can fix it. If I run Windows 10 and have a problem, I would have to rely on others, like MS themselves in many cases, for a fix. I would not have control.

      Now, that control comes at a cost: the willingness to learn things and put in some time. But I'm willing to go there, because then I can indeed have a system that works at all times.

  15. Just don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have yet to get hyped about another release of Windows 10. Still waiting for that period of time when everything works and that goes on for a year or better. I think I have wiped and re installed more times with Windows 10 then all the times with previous Windows. It's that bad.

  16. Re:Windows 10 hate thread by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we just all agree to start calling it by the build number instead? 1703, 1709 etc. OFC MS might need to update their marketing speak to match the reality

  17. October 17th, really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, my two computers still haven't received last spring's update.
    I don't really care, but what's the point of having a release date?

    1. Re: October 17th, really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are two things you have to do first, in settings, check that you want updates, and run the defender security check. It should update after that. So before you check out for the night start the download.

  18. Update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now! Even bigger and better spyware from Microsoft!

  19. Even the British can get behind that name. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think that "Windows 10 Fall" is a more fitting name than "Windows 10 Autumn" even in the UK. One could even have a "Windows 10 Low Fall" as a replacement for Windows CE's low-resource variant.

    1. Re:Even the British can get behind that name. by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Spring in October.

      Fucking Northern Hemisphere bias.

  20. paint? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this gonna uninstall MSPAINT?
    How do I protect MSPAINT?
    Do I need to disable windows update?

  21. October 20... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another little bump in Linux users. Will take that long for the first round of Windows updates to mess up enough computers that their users or support staff (e.g. family nerds) just chuck it and reimage.

  22. Re:Just don't care - may not have to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If things work like they have in the past, my craptastic old computer won't be updated until a month before the *next* W10 update appears anyway. Not because I defer updates (though I do, for a while, on the Pro desktop), but because it takes that long. 1703 didn't appear even on my Home versions of 1607 until last month.

  23. Is it going to run more useless processes now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like I really need calculator and movies and tv app running in the background. What did we gain with windows 10, again?

  24. more rubbush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    10 commandments.
    Fallen angel.
    The creator.
    Fallen (down) update?
    This is going to be bublucal.

  25. awesome by thebullshitpatrol · · Score: 1

    still waiting for the update when windows becomes *nix, then I might think about windows being more useful to me than a video game console.

  26. well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You get it whether you want it or not.
    You get it whether you need it or not.

  27. Forced Data Theft, yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That and more! Have a newer processor, Windows 7 and tried to install a badly needed security update? Get a popup on your screen every 15 seconds yeah! Forced data theft, you wanted to share right? yeah Windows! Like a company that is anti-consumer and erodes your privacy? Windows! Windows! Windows!

    Microsoft is evil.

  28. PLEASE FIX THE BUGS FIRST!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of adding all these so called new fixes to Windows 10, how about going back and fixing the bugs from the earlier releases? I still have family members on Windows 10 Home that can't access my shares on Windows 10 Professional other than through an IP address. It's ridiculous. Please fix these network issues. See https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/1add7d03-2bc0-4d1e-9248-fef090d9ba0e/anyone-else-notice-the-network-issues-with-windows-10-creators-edition?forum=win10itpronetworking if you want to know if I'm the only one that has issues. Even Microsoft indicated in this post to roll back to 1607 which is almost impossible by the way.

    Please fix the bugs first before adding new ones.

    Thank you.