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Facebook Sold Ads To Russian-Linked Accounts During Election (cnet.com)

Facebook announced on Wednesday that it sold $100,000 worth of ads to inauthentic accounts likely linked to Russia during the election. The ad spending spree took place between June of 2015 and May of 2017, and was associated with roughly 3,000 ads. CNET reports: "Our analysis suggests these accounts and Pages were affiliated with one another and likely operated out of Russia," Alex Stamos, Facebook's chief security officer, wrote in a blog post. Facebook said it's continuing to investigate the issue and reported its findings to U.S. authorities.

Most of the ads and accounts didn't have to explicitly do with the election or either of the then-candidates, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Instead, they were focused on divisive political topics, including LGBT issues, immigration and gun rights.

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  1. Process of elimination by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 0

    Which countries did not buy ads from FB during the election?

    1. Re:Process of elimination by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      North Korea? Maybe...

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    2. Re:Process of elimination by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I dunno, North Korea has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of the Trump presidency. We know they are good at hacking... Might be a joint effort with Russia.

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    3. Re:Process of elimination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which country bought ads that were geographically targeted to regions in the US, which covered topics such as the 2nd amendment, immigration, and LGBT equality?

      Do you think that France, or Japan, or Kenya, or Iraq, bought ads to run only in the US on these topics?

      Per Alex Stamos, Chief Security Officer for FB:
      * Rather, the ads and accounts appeared to focus on amplifying divisive social and political messages across the ideological spectrum — touching on topics from LGBT matters to race issues to immigration to gun rights.
      * About one-quarter of these ads were geographically targeted, and of those, more ran in 2015 than 2016.

  2. Fake News from Fakebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whatever Zuck the Cuck says, I don't believe it

    1. Re:Fake News from Fakebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your type didn't believe Nixon's CRP engaged in dirty tricks operations until the participants admitted it. I wonder if any of them are still around...maybe worked with Trump...oh, hai Roger Stone!

    2. Re: Fake News from Fakebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your type didn't believe Hillary was a scumbag, until Russia showed us just how fucking corrupt and evil she is.

    3. Re: Fake News from Fakebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you admit that Russia had a smear campaign against her?

    4. Re: Fake News from Fakebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Even if for the sake of argument it was true, why should anyone even care? Last I checked anyone from any country - including governments - can post whatever they want on the internet. I'm infinitely more worried about legally spending billions trying to swing an election than about Russia buying a few facebook ads.

      Hillary had her shady bullshit exposed, and instead of addressing the subject matter she and her army of defenders are stirring up xenophobia (because racism is a-OK if it's against white people) and fake outrage to deflect from their dishonesty and blame the purported messenger.

    5. Re: Fake News from Fakebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Soooo, Facebook colluded with Russia during the election.

  3. I'm starting to think... by gatfirls · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...maybe there was something untoward going on in this last election cycle. Can't put my finger on it though.

    1. Re:I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hillary cheated bearnie sanders?

    2. Re:I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lock her up!

    3. Re:I'm starting to think... by MightyMartian · · Score: 0

      By cheated you mean "played hard ball" and "Super Delegates voted for her", like every Democratic Primary for the last thirty years.

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    4. Re:I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      By cheated you mean "played hard ball" and "Super Delegates voted for her", like every Democratic Primary for the last thirty years.

      The irony being that the Democratic party has the least Democratic primary process because of Super Delegates.

    5. Re:I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Down's Syndrome

    6. Re: I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We live in a Republic, not a Democracy.

      But let's consider your implied complaint about a party employing strategies to ensure its partisan integrity. Is that wrong? Because Trump winning states in the entirety with less than a majority of the vote is fairer? More democratic? In what way?

      Besides, we have 50 different states with inconsistent rules and practices.

      Some states allow open primaries. Some require registration.

      A few do even weirder things.

      Winner-take-all and no proportional representation make the system fatally flawed.

      Add in the chaotic calendar, the malapportioned Electoral College, and none of the system meets the whiff test.

    7. Re:I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Democrats are so fucking retarded that they expect people to believe nothing suspicious happened there even though THEY THEMSELVES fired their chairwoman for corruption and have multiple people on tape admitting to massive fraud.

    8. Re:I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gotta get up to get down

    9. Re: I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Republicans can't even be at appointments on time! They're scheduled to be at the dentist at 3, but they're across town buying shamwows!

      Oh, wait, that's actually just two different republicans. It turns out you can't meaningfully treat 50 million people in a group as a single entity.

    10. Re: I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We live in a Republic, not a Democracy.

      Neither is strictly true and you clearly don't understand the concept of a set and a subset.

    11. Re: I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That idiotic phrase gets more and more stupid sounding every year.

    12. Re: I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We live in a Republic, not a Democracy.

      Neither is strictly true and you clearly don't understand the concept of a set and a subset.

      Clearly you don't understand flippancy, or how both are irrelevant and meaningless applications to a political party, or that the main concern was the flawed nature of the primary system overall, making any objections on a partisan basis to be spurious.

    13. Re: I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think that one is a subset of the other, then you fail to understand a distinction that is quite literally ancient, dating back more than two millenia.

      Now perhaps you could say that both are subsets of representative forms of government, but of the two, the American system is much more republican (small r) in nature than democratic.

    14. Re: I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I heard this a thousand times during the primary season. Show me where in US law it states that the primaries need to be democratic at all. You as a voter are not a part of a political party, you are a person associated with a political party (if you choose to be). You can become part of the party itself by actually being a delegate or working within the democratic/republican/green/etc infrastructure, but the vast majority of folks are not that.

      Are superdelegates undemocratic? Sure, but they have value. You can bet that the Republican Party wished they had more superdelegates once they realized that a small chunk of their base was voting in a willingly ignorant, disloyal, cowardly man-child, and there was nothing they could do about it.

    15. Re: I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't remember ever hearing anyone say that Hillary's rigging of the D primaries was illegal. I do remember people being outraged because it was immoral, against the spirit of the rules, and very effectively cheated the members of that party out of their voice and votes.

      Then I remember those very same D party members make every excuse in the book to rationalize voting for the scumbag who had just screwed them over, to try to prevent the scumbag with the R next to his name from getting elected. And to this day, those same people are still screaming bloody murder at the R scumbag who won, because he hasn't thrown-away his views and opinions and suddenly gone full socialist to appease them.

    16. Re: I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Im sorry, I was trolling. Got mostly the responses I expected :)

      She learned well. Obama did the same thing to her. They have pretty much 0 interest in fixing it. I do not really have a problem with it. Its not my party.

    17. Re: I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't worry, Russia will build a wall big enough to lock up her ego soon enough. And Americans will pay for it!

    18. Re: I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait.... they already built one. Then tore it down. You don't think? Do you? Nah not possible. We unleashed a monster. My god what have we done!!!!!!

    19. Re:I'm starting to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/47397

      No, cheated is more like it.

  4. Oh noes! Russian linked?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm outraged (because apparently that's trendy) that some persons who may have been linked to some *Russians* bought advertising from there world's largest social network. This definitely proves that someone somewhere is doing something and there's a chance it's got something to do with someone who has some links to someone in Trump's cabinet.

    1. Re: Oh noes! Russian linked?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like Hillary's going to need a sequel.

    2. Re:Oh noes! Russian linked?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back to your handler putinbot.

      For everyone else: Just your daily remind that if you still support Trump you're a fucking loser, just like him.

      A loser president, supported by losers, elected by losers. That stain is on your soul forever.

  5. Oh thats nothing... by trinity93 · · Score: 2

    I'li bet they sold a lot of ads to the chinese as well.

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    1. Re:Oh thats nothing... by budsetr · · Score: 1

      I heard, and I'm not saying this is true, that they sold ads to the.... Republicans!!!!

    2. Re: Oh thats nothing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I heard there were white males involved. Just saying. ...

    3. Re:Oh thats nothing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly no, those they refused {multiple links elided] as was occasionally reported in some of the media.

  6. Republicans, why have you abandoned America? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Traitors. Our countrymen have fought and died for this country you now desecrate.

    All for the Red party.

    1. Re: Republicans, why have you abandoned America? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Too much HuffPo for you.

    2. Re: Republicans, why have you abandoned America? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, I found a whole shitload of those "antifa" guys Hannity and Limbaugh are shitting themselves about: they're under white marble crosses all over Europe.

    3. Re: Republicans, why have you abandoned America? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sad the homeless sleep on the graves of brave men.

    4. Re: Republicans, why have you abandoned America? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The above is a perfect example of propaganda meant to create division and distrust in American society.

  7. The alleged "spending spree" was two years long. by Nutria · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't think BeauHD (or CNet, or both) know what a "spree" is.

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  8. Except it was fake news from media companies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    .. attacking Trump.

    I traced down a couple of the websites that had trending stories on Facebook to a PR company in Washington.

    One of the fake sites was Heatstreet.com. I can't recall the other.

    Using DNS transfer records, the internet archive and other sources available on the internet I traced these sites to a PR company in Washington (they had tried to anonymize the domain transfers but through the transfer history you could determine what was going on).

    These fake news sites, that were purchased just a few months prior to the election (heat street was originally a driveway heating site), which were converted to clickbait farms with RSS fed content, somehow managed to get enough readership to trend in Facebook with their fake news stories about Trump.

    And now we have Slashdot running this story?

    Did slashdot suddenly become "Fake news for nerds"?

    1. Re:Except it was fake news from media companies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're being RACIST!

    2. Re:Except it was fake news from media companies... by tonywong · · Score: 1

      Did you go to a pizza parlour with a rifle as well?

      Anonymous account spewing nonsense without citations is just more fluffery.

    3. Re:Except it was fake news from media companies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excellent work comrade. The racists who support Trump are nyet capable of creating a backstory to explain away incriminating facts such as these. Your prompt response will help them greatly.

      We also commend your use of completely fake information to denounce the facts as if they were false. it is both clever and ironic.

      On behalf of the workers party, we thank you for your dedication to continuing the downfall of the American pigs.

    4. Re:Except it was fake news from media companies... by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      Dude I fucking dare you to go read the Podesta emails and come back here with a straight face and tell us he and his buddies at the pizza place aren't fucking pedos, I dare you. I'll even give you the places to start, start with the Podesta "hot tub" email and follow that with the paintings of children hanging up in that place.

      Just because a nut tried to take the law into his own hands does NOT mean the people there aren't fucking scumbags. Or are you gonna really stand here and tell us that a 50 year old man having 7-9 year old girls waiting for him in a hot tub as "entertainment" while his buddies at the pizza place have pictures on the wall of young kids in underwear with their asses red and frightened looks on their faces is completely normal?

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  9. Just Plain Disgusting by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How few people give a crap about a foreign power invading our country by stealth. Sowing dissension, stealing sensitive political and commercial data, and yes, doing their damnedest to influence an election, if not to alter the outcome then to cause as much suspicion as to undermine the results. So many of you making snarky or pithy comments, oh how smart you sound to everyone. +1s for the lot of you. Russia and China are not our friends. They have said as much many times. They have bragged about how cheap and easy it is for them to hack our open society compared to the billions we spend. From some of the comments I read here, mission accomplished for our enemies.

    1. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Even less people give a crap about who Facebook sells it's services to.
      Why don't you turn your rage on Facebook?
      By all accounts, THEY are solely responsible for "influencing the election".
      Because a remotely Russian-related company bought some vaguely political advertising space?
      Good lord, they're amateurs, the USA just finances, arms and trains the terrorists directly.
      Countless times, foreign governments far and wide, no one is exempt from the American influence.
      Overturned, assassinated, corrupted, invalidated ... the full gamut.
      And after all, what is "Voice of America", if it's not EXACTLY peddling the official American line to foreign audiences in their own languages?
      You people are bitching about a little soft propaganda, to the tune of a paltry $100,000?
      Get over yourselves ... you've got bigger problems.

    2. Re: Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Facebook is investigating US accounts with language set to Russian. What's next? Internment camps?

    3. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fess up, you have "Stars and Stripes" butt-plug.

    4. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope - more likely a Hillary Clinton buttplug.

      Bought from her website no doubt

    5. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Russia narrative you've been fed is a lie.

      It's just the butt hurt elite lashing out at Trump because they didn't get their way. The same response you see from children when they lose a game and refuse to accept it. Always someone else's fault.

    6. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How few people give a crap about a foreign power invading our country by stealth. Sowing dissension, stealing sensitive political and commercial data, and yes, doing their damnedest to influence an election, if not to alter the outcome then to cause as much suspicion as to undermine the results.

      So many of you making snarky or pithy comments, oh how smart you sound to everyone. +1s for the lot of you. Russia and China are not our friends. They have said as much many times. They have bragged about how cheap and easy it is for them to hack our open society compared to the billions we spend.

      From some of the comments I read here, mission accomplished for our enemies.

      No ones suspicious of the results. We know Donald Trump won fare and square. Russia doesn't need to sow dissent because fake news outlets like Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc.. Do a wonderful job of it already. BTW McCarthy called and he wants his paranoid talking pints back.

    7. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes! The evil Russian conspiracy as strategically reported by media outlets to rationalize the lack of standard manipulative voter control this past election cycle is very real!

    8. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

      The 1980s called - they want their foreign policy back! LOL!!!

      Geeze.

    9. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Plus1Entropy · · Score: 1

      The independent researchers cited in that article, Forensicator and Adam Carter, were talking about what Guccifer2.0 leaked in September, not what Wikileaks released in July.

      Adam Carter wrote this, where he said:

      [...] this was metadata from the 'leaked' files, which Guccifer 2.0 released in September of 2016 and had absolutely nothing to do with Wikileaks , this conflation of Wikileaks and Guccifer 2.0 is a mistake many in the MSM have made throughout 2016-2017 and one I had hoped some may have learned from but evidently they haven't.

      The emphasis is his.

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    10. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by swell · · Score: 1

      Darn right! After all, the good ole USA would never tamper with other governments or overthrow elected leaders or cause countless deaths in manipulating foreign leadership. The US would never arm terrorists, support drug cartels or cause economic damage to other nations.

      We're the Good Guys! God Bless America!

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    11. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it comes to dealing with Russia or China the US usually has to fight with one hand tied behind their backs. During the Cold War it was relatively easy for Russia (and other countries) to infiltrate intelligence agents at all levels of US society. It was much harder for the US to infiltrate Russia's police state. But somehow the US managed to get the better of Russia at the end. The US government has to contend with citizens continuously attacking the nation's intelligence agencies and national security related actions in public without any regard or understanding of what these agencies actually do. US Presidents are subjected to daily attacks on both their policies and personal characteristics. On the other hand Russia and China never have to deal with any domestic criticism of their national security related activities or their national leaders. The US has an open press while Russia and China have state censors monitoring and controlling every piece of news published in the country. Some non-state sanctioned news can get into China and Russia but they are improving their internet censorships and creating tougher laws for anyone violating their state policies. All of this is a big handicap for the US to overcome.

    12. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by solarmon · · Score: 2

      They have bragged about how cheap and easy it is for them to hack our open society...

      What many otherwise bright and internet-savvy people don't realize is that a few carefully written ads about gun control, abortion, immigration or taxes, which are targeted to the people who care about those issues most, can be fiercely motivating in the final days of an election. Pure propaganda works best, of course, as true believers don't fact-check. Multiply that effect by 100,000,000 page views and you wind up swinging a few key precincts. Get used to the new way of influencing popular thought.
      Expect this to become more pervasive and more subtle. You can bet there are very smart people and big money working on this.

    13. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by solarmon · · Score: 1

      a remotely Russian-related company bought some vaguely political advertising space?

      I love to read Anonymous Coward's comments in a fake russian accent. It adds a lot of depth.

    14. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No ones suspicious of the results. We know Donald Trump won fare and square. Russia doesn't need to sow dissent because fake news outlets like Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc.. Do a wonderful job of it already. BTW McCarthy called and he wants his paranoid talking pints back.

      Bullshit. Many factors affected the outcome. Among them were the Russian efforts. Hacking an election is in some ways similar to hacking a computer network. The easiest target is the people. Feed them a line of shit and you can probably get the outcome you want.

      CNN, Fox, and MSNBC aren't fake news, in that they generally don't create substantially false stories. CNN tries to be basically neutral, though perhaps less of late. Fox's news segments biggest bias is selectively picking topics to present the republican side in the best light. Fox's commentators take that and well pretty much go off the deep end. Hannity is scum. MSNBC tries to be the anti FOX, though I don't think they are as bad. All of them have the weakness for ratings over simply reporting facts. Still, they are no fake news.

      Hillary was a weak candidate. Bernie could have avoided weakening her and perhaps changed the outcome. The republicans in the primary could have got together and agreed to focus on attacking the malignancy that is Donald Trump first and foremost, rather than letting him half win on bullshit, bravado, and lies. Unfortunately, it is not practical to rely on such efforts.

      Want to fix this mess? How about this?
      1. End affirmative action for politicians. Seriously, draw districts by simple non political algorithm, and vote for the president by the popular vote. You say that is not fair to the little states. That is of course idiotic. Changing it to the popular vote gives every single voter that same say in the outcome, whether they are republican or democrat or other, regardless of where they live.

      2. Have the FBI or other responsible agency investigate all sources of apparent election related news and give reports in real time. Seriously, somebody needs to monitor this crap and if it looks like a foreign influence, potentially block it.

      3. Do instant run off voting, or more likely simply vote multiple times. In short whatever it takes to make third parties viable and not spoilers.

      4. Some kind of fact based quiz during voting. Each major candidate can submit questions and answers, that are checked by other candidates, judges, etc, including some checks on reasonableness. Score it the same day as voting. Give a discount on taxes in the next year for demonstrating basic knowledge. For instance, T/F The vast majority of climate scientists believe the Earth is warming and carbon dioxide is a major contributor to that warming.

      5. If necessary have states/cities/etc support independent media, with lots of checks and balances between different branches and divisions. Reward those who point out inaccurate information and or deliberately skew information. Yes, I know all this is difficult, but it is probably necessary. People don't want to pay for the independent reporting we need.

      6. Require politicians to go under oath every time they speak to the public, or use social media, etc. If you can prove the politician outright lied deliberately, charge them with perjury or something similar. Perhaps you will need some kind of three strikes system or something, but we need to remove the worst of the worst, and if it requires holding them up to a higher standard, then do it. If it then requires paying them more to get people in some positions, well at least you have filtered out some of the crap.

      7. Require all politicians above a certain level to submit to the same kind of checks that a top secret clearance requires, with no special exceptions. They are basically looking at indications on whether or not you can be trusted. I see no reason for politicians above a certain level to be able to bypass that. (Right now someone like Donald Trump gets a clearance by definition, rather than by merit.)

    15. Re: Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And g2.0 making 'mistakes' is how they 'proved' that russians were behind the DNC hack.

    16. Re: Just Plain Disgusting by dj245 · · Score: 1

      It is entirely possible that the Russians attempted (and perhaps succeeded) in influencing the election, but no collusion occurred. It is even plausible that if the Russians did try to influence the election, a logical further action would be to make it seems as though collusion DID take place. Until the full investigation is complete, taking a position on either side is just playing into the Russian goal of undermining faith in our democracy, or partisan tribal politics. Mueller is generally agreed to be a tenacious investigator, but fair and honest. That is why we should still have faith in our democracy (even if parts of it are indeed corrupt). I reserve my judgement until the investigation is completed.

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    17. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you paid attention to the response? There's no "Lets secure our devices and processes." Instead it's all "Get rid of Trump." No one complaining about Russia actually cares about increasing security, they only care about removing Trump. Those countries might not be our friends, but neither are any of the political parties. Those guys are even worse.

    18. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 1

      Have you paid attention to the response? There's no "Lets secure our devices and processes." Instead it's all "Get rid of Trump." No one complaining about Russia actually cares about increasing security, they only care about removing Trump. Those countries might not be our friends, but neither are any of the political parties. Those guys are even worse.

      I, for one, care very much about locking down our infrastructure like the power grid, water supply, etc. Securing public information systems, including voting systems, is also very important. My original post did not mention Trump at all.

    19. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Russia, we love to read our articles in a fake American accent!

      For the people, of course...

    20. Re: Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook is investigating US accounts with language set to Russian. What's next? Internment camps?

      Hopefully. At the very least car thefts will go down quite a bit if they do. Not sure what exactly a Facebook Internment camp would look like though, isn't that where they normally keep their unpaid interns?

    21. Re: Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      http://www.mintpressnews.com/anthrax-russiagate-muellers-special-counsel-appointment-raise-concern/228317/

      Mueller doesn't have the slightest bit of credibility. It blows my mind when people sing praises about him, it's like you've lived in a totally different universe with an alternative history. This is the guy who oversaw the completely blotched anthrax investigation (and going by what some people have said, possibly intentionally blotched), then later went on to push the neo-conservative propaganda that Saddam Hussein was going to give his WMD's to members of AlQaeda in order to carry out attacks in the US. It's utterly sick that he still has a position in government, to say nothing of respect and credibility.

    22. Re: Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing says credibility like an a/c citing mintpressnews.

    23. Re: Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "So many of you making snarky or pithy comments"

      You should understand that a large proportion, let's say half, of those comments are from Russian trolls.

    24. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      You're actually afraid of TEH COMMIEZ! An educated, erudite adult is actually pushing the tired old TEH COMMIEZ! narrative? The Cold War ended 30 years ago. Tell you what, Dad will check under your bed for TEH COMMIEZ before you go to sleep, ok?

      I was taught in college that the reason so many countries hate America is that America is a total asshole. Genocide, weapons sales, CIA coups...what needs to happen is America stop bullying the world and pull back and attend to its own interests. Stop meddling in things that don't concern it. America is the problem. That's what I learned, didn't you?

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    25. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh please! The Russians didn't have to do shit, Shillary destroying evidence, taking hammers to her devices, and shilling her office to Qatar while calling everyone who disagreed with her an "ist" guaranteed you could run the corpse of Jimmy Hoffa and kick her ass!

      Look up her approval numbers before the election...it was at 16%, after all the media slobbering all over her and singing her praises for nearly 2 years? Her numbers were..drumroll...15%. the woman was and is HATED because she is a lying manipulative shill who thinks her shit don't stink and that you are too stupid to see through her obviously phony spin. There was literally NOBODY in the democratic party with worse numbers than her, NOBODY. Not Bernie, not Warren, hell I bet Gary Hart has better approval ratings than her!

      All wikileaks did was give us the details to the underhanded shit we already knew she was doing. We already knew about her destroying evidence, already knew of her taking huge checks from Wall Street, already knew about how she flip flopped and changed direction more than a wind sock in a hurricane, there was nothing positive about that woman but because she was asshole buddies with the money men and insiders they thought they could force her down the public's throats because they thought we were too fucking stupid to see through their obvious propaganda.

      BTW you can thank her for Trump, look up "Clinton pied piper candidate" and you'll see how she told the media to suck up and sing Trump's praises because she thought her identity politics would be an easy sell when facing him instead of a more traditional candidate...well she found out what any pollster that wasn't on her payroll could have told her, that a 60 year old mummified turd from Richard Nixon would draw more positive numbers than she would!

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      ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
    26. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      LOL. Calls for politicians to have top secret credentials. LOL. Hillary, at the least, should have had her credentials revoked for the shit she pulled. Sending classified information on her own server! The rest of us would be in Leavenworth for doing that.

      I also love how you came up with the racist literacy test all on your own. Good job there, racist.

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    27. Re: Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or failing to recognize the very basic distinction in English between the words "botched" and "blotched."
      Curious.

    28. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      A bit of revisionist history there. As I recall Hilary had 30 odd years of attacks from the media, the email thing amounted to basically nothing in the end (and it looks like Trump's people have been doing it too), and there was a huge amount of pure bullshit posted about her right before the vote (e.g. the list of people she murdered, Pizzagate).

      I seem to recall that a large number of emails were "leaked" by some person who appears to have links to Russia right before the election, and even though the FBI examined them (with impeccable timing) and cleared her the effect on her rating was undeniable.

      She wasn't a great candidate, but she wasn't the monster she is portrayed as either.

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    29. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely correct. I encourage everyone to read The Hundred Year Marathon. It discusses election interference and cultural engineering that has been done to US citizens for decades.

    30. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. Calls for politicians to have top secret credentials. LOL. Hillary, at the least, should have had her credentials revoked for the shit she pulled. Sending classified information on her own server! The rest of us would be in Leavenworth for doing that.

      I also love how you came up with the racist literacy test all on your own. Good job there, racist.

      She was careless, though apparently without intent. We have something like 330 million people in this country, at least 100 million probably meet the minimum requirements as stated by the constitution.

      Was she a better candidate than Trump? Oh hell yes. She had the experience and the biggest bitch was her email handling skills. Somehow that isn't nearly as big a problem as being a bombastic lying sack of shit in control of nuclear weapons and everything else. That being said, I'm perfectly fine with a lot of marginal candidates being thrown out.

      We can and we must do better.

    31. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A bit of revisionist history there

      A lot of projection there.

      As I recall Hilary had 30 odd years of attacks from the media

      You mean the Fox news, Brietbart, post-truth fake news and right wing propaganda. You don't get to change what you call them just because it fits your narrative today.

    32. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

    33. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You see, John McCain is a monster, but mostly not for the reasons uses to publicly attack him. This is because the ends justify the rhetoric.

      So yeah, Killary was a monster, but the real reasons are too convoluted, and would take hours to explain. It was just easier to say "Uranium one" or "email wipes" or "Benghazi."

      Look what DNC does to Trump now: you think the Russian Collusion and Nazi bullshit is real? As with Killary, those who know the details, understand why the media need to lie. Those who are clueless might still believe the lie, reaching the right conclusion for ostensibly wrong reasons.

    34. Re:Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree man, and the more people I talk to about that election...I think a lot of us agree... Hillary was just the worst candidate for so many reasons. And, we didn't need Wikileaks to show us that, it was pretty evident on it's own.

      Cheers,
      -ac :)

    35. Re: Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not a secret Russian if that's what your insinuating, and you know I'm right about Mueller. Anyone who was paying attention during the run up to war knew how rotten that Administration's case was, and yet all you could do was stand by and watch as liars repeating the administration's talking points were given the benefit of the doubt, despite all evidence to the contrary. (and despite proof of the dishonesty such as with the Niger forgeries)

    36. Re: Just Plain Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've found another secret Russian.

  10. Re:The alleged "spending spree" was two years long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No kidding. Hyperbole is pretty much SOP these days.

  11. Re:The alleged "spending spree" was two years long by phantomfive · · Score: 1, Informative

    I'd bet that it's overall related to the fake news plague originating in places like Macedonia. At least, that seems like a more likely scenario than stealth-takeover-of-a-country-by-buying-Facebook-ads.

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  12. $100k ? is that a lot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    100k over two years does not seem to be a huge FB buy? "divisive political topics" could be rewritten as Facebook click bait.
    Or what am I missing?

    1. Re:$100k ? is that a lot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      100k over two years does not seem to be a huge FB buy? "divisive political topics" could be rewritten as Facebook click bait.
      Or what am I missing?

      To put that number in perspective, Buzzfeed has shown to have spent as much as ten times that amount per month on Facebook ads alone.

      In other words, Buzzfeed probably spent 240 times as much money trying to influence the election than accounts that might be tied with Russia did.

      Doesn't sound so much like an effective, dastardly, sneaky Russian plot to ruin America now does it?

    2. Re:$100k ? is that a lot? by hyades1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What are you missing? Among other things, this:

      One hundred thousand dollars in ad spending might not sound like a lot of money, but it is a big deal for at least five reasons.

      First, it confirms that Facebook was one of the pathways by which Russian operatives sought to influence the U.S. election.

      Second, it raises the question of how those Russian operatives knew which U.S. voters to target, and whether the Trump campaign might have played any role.

      Third, it casts a new light on Facebook's "fake news" problem, which looks more sinister if some of the misinformation spread on the platform in the run-up to the U.S. election was fueled by Russian-funded ad dollars or troll networks.

      Fourth, it suggests that Facebook may have a more widespread oversight problem in its ad sales. As the Post's story notes, it is illegal for foreign nationals or governments to buy ads or spend money aimed at influencing a U.S. election. It now seems clear they have been using Facebook to do just that.

      Finally, while $100,000 amounts to a miniscule fraction of U.S. election spending, it could go a long way in amplifying posts among a targeted audience. Facebook said only about 25 percent of the ads were geographically targeted. But it's worth remembering that the company has a history of not being forthcoming when it comes to the scale and mechanisms of misinformation on its platform. It's possible that the activities the company has uncovered and disclosed so far represent only a small part of a larger problem.

      http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/09/06/why_russian_operatives_buying_american_political_ads_on_facebook_is_such.html

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    3. Re: $100k ? is that a lot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also this is just one instance which Facebook have found and publicized. There may have been tens, hundreds, thousands of such campaigns which crept under the radar.

    4. Re:$100k ? is that a lot? by will_die · · Score: 1

      You read slate that is why you believe the wrong things.
      That article is wrong in a bunch of places. 1) Foreign nations can purchase ads and try to influence the election provided it is over an issue. See recent DACA speeches. 2) Green card holders can donate but cannot vote.
      If we are looking at foreign influence there are far better examples such as the chinese attempts to donate to campaigns. When that was found out they instead directed money to the 501(c) directly controlled by the candidate.
      Source:www.fec.gov

    5. Re:$100k ? is that a lot? by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      "You read slate that is why you believe the wrong things.

      Cut the crap. Unlike you, apparently, I get my information from a lot of sources. This includes conservative publications.

      If you can dispute any of the information I provided above, do so...specifically.

      Your link is worthless, as you know. It goes to the entire Federal Election Commission site. If you think I'm going to waste time crawling through the whole thing attempting to substantiate your claims, you're sadly mistaken.

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    6. Re: $100k ? is that a lot? by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      They certainly have a track record for being...economical...with the information they provide, don't they!

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    7. Re:$100k ? is that a lot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, something key to keep in mind is, for Facebook this is a change of tune. Their original marching orders right after the election were "we didn't have anything to do with this no-sir-ee not I."

      Sometimes you find the ice cube floating around in the ocean and that's it. Sometimes the rest of the iceberg is under it. Facebook spent months steadfastly denying the existence of frozen water while the ship was mysteriously sinking, and we've just seen the first ice (in the rear-view unfortunately).

      P.S. I know I'm posting A/C but you know for sure I'm definitely American because no Russian ESL speaker could twist and tangle metaphors like the above

    8. Re:$100k ? is that a lot? by q4Fry · · Score: 1

      While I don't think you "believe the wrong things" because you "read slate," Will has at least one salient point. The FEC page with a relevant summary of the issues has some exceptions, including the Green Card holders he mentioned. There's also a section about Non-Election Activity, which appears to be rather nuanced, particularly the paragraph that reads

      In AO 1989-32, the Commission concluded that although foreign nationals could make disbursements solely to influence ballot issues, a foreign national could not contribute to a ballot committee that had coordinated its efforts with a nonfederal candidate's re-election campaign.

      On the other hand, I was surprised to find that PAC activity (except volunteering) of pretty much any kind was forbidden in fairly specific terms, as well as trying to end-run the rules.

    9. Re:$100k ? is that a lot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to my calculations, USD 100K is how much the Clinton campaign was spending every 30 mins, day and night, around the clock, for two years.

      Trump Derangement Syndrome?
       

  13. Not irony at all. Standard PR propaganda. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The irony being that the Democratic party has the least Democratic primary process because of Super Delegates.

    It's not irony at all. It's standard, in Public Relations, to claim to be the opposite of whatever unpopular things you are, in order to confuse the general public.

    Just like it's standard to preemptively accuse the opponents of doing whatever bad stuff it is that they do, so if somebody calls them on it it looks like a playground-argument: "You're a FOO!"
    "No, YOU'RE a FOO!"

    Want to know what the Democrats are? Just go down the list of everything bad they've ever accused the Republicans of being.

    It's not symmetric. The Rs attract a DIFFERENT KIND of psychopath - the rule-bound, compensated sort, rather than the narcissistic, pathological liar, anything goes types. Working with Rs is like working with dynamite: Everything is fine until you do something that makes them think you're a bad guy, then BANG! Working with Ds is like working with nitroglycerine: BANG! at any moment for no apparent reason.

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    1. Re: Not irony at all. Standard PR propaganda. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fun fact, the explosive material in dynamite is nitroglycerin, it is just adulterated or one might say, corrupted so it can be implemented as an instrument of destruction, an apt description of the modern GOP.

      However all your other whining overlooks one important factor.

      Both parties have flawed selection systems when it comes to the presidential primary.

      Then again, historically, they only recently adopted them in a haphazard and irregular fashion. And the explanation for New Hampshire being first? Uh...there isn't one, other than that is what they want to be.

      You might want to think about it a bit more.

      And that isn't even getting into how broken the Electoral College system is.

  14. Barn door, meet horse...oops, too late by hyades1 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    "Our analysis suggests these accounts and Pages were affiliated with one another and likely operated out of Russia," Alex Stamos, Facebook's chief security officer, wrote in a blog post. Facebook said it's continuing to investigate the issue and reported its findings to U.S. authorities.

    What the poor jerk doesn't want to acknowledge is that thanks in part to Facebook, the US authorities he's reporting his results to are now controlled by Russia.

    Thanks, Facebook, for your timely investigation.

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  15. Taste your own medicine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How few people give a crap about a foreign power invading our country by stealth. Sowing dissension, stealing sensitive political and commercial data, and yes, doing their damnedest to influence an election, if not to alter the outcome then to cause as much suspicion as to undermine the results.

    That's the SOP for Americans messing in other countries' elections. If it was true that Russians manipulated your election, then welcome to have a taste of your own medicine! What's good for the goose and all that.

  16. Re: So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, "Bartles" you just want us to believe we've always been at war with EastAsia and that the Chocolate ration has been increased to 25 grams this week.

    Truth is, you hitched your wagon to the most corrupt horse since Warren Harding, and worse yet, he is more incompetent than the bank robbers who ordered a pizza delivery from the lobby phone.

  17. Regarding Facebook ads... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The story behind Facebook can be found in "The Accidental Billionaires: The Founding of Facebook: A Tale of Sex, Money, Genius and Betrayal" by Ben Mezrich, which "The Social Network" movie was based on. "The Boy Kings: A Journey into the Heart of the Social Network" by Katherine Losse takes place after the movie and from a woman's perspective that I'm currently reading. The most recent Facebook-related book is "Chaos Monkeys: Obscene Fortune and Random Failure in Silicon Valley" by Antonio Garcia Martinez, who sold his startup and engineers to Twitter while getting a job at Facebook in a three-way deal, and developed the ad system at Facebook that tracks both logged in and anonymous users with third-party demographic data.

  18. So what? by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Pretty meaningless if they don't give any other information. How many other foreign countries buy ads on facebook?
    How many others buy ads that are political in nature?
    They're just singling out Russia because red scare 2.0 and they know it will get clicks. Boring.

  19. Very Scarey, FB should stop selling any ads by nicoleb_x · · Score: 1

    Clearly, a world influencing behemoth like FaceBook should not be allowed to sell advertisements period. It's just too risky. Hell, I might want to buy a Korean car or an Italian vacation or, OMG, watch an expose on DACA "children".

    1. Re:Very Scarey, FB should stop selling any ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clearly, a world influencing behemoth like FaceBook should not be allowed to sell advertisements period. It's just too risky. Hell, I might want to buy a Korean car or an Italian vacation or, OMG, watch an expose on DACA "children".

      There are certainly issues with advertising, especially political advertising, that merit concerns. Some places even have official groups whose job is to remedy situations where advertising is false, faulty, or fraudulent.

  20. Whoa whoa whoa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought we were supposed to be talking about Nazi's now...

  21. Capitalism is super scarey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is why we need to be communist like Russia. Capitalism = Jews Communism = Nazis

    1. Re:Capitalism is super scarey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait Jews = Nazis and Communists = Capitalist. I always forget to switch the labels.

  22. Headline is alarmist by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful
    at best, designed to deliberately mislead you to a desired conclusion at worst. From the blog post:
    • The vast majority of ads run by these accounts didn't specifically reference the US presidential election, voting or a particular candidate.
    • Rather, the ads and accounts appeared to focus on amplifying divisive social and political messages across the ideological spectrum -- touching on topics from LGBT matters to race issues to immigration to gun rights.
    • About one-quarter of these ads were geographically targeted, and of those, more ran in 2015 than 2016.
    • The behavior displayed by these accounts to amplify divisive messages was consistent with the techniques mentioned in the white paper we released in April about information operations.

    Considering the U.S. has elections every 2 years, if running ads a year before the election counts as attempting to influence the election, then every ad run at any time is attempting to influence the upcoming election.

    1. Re:Headline is alarmist by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Considering the U.S. has elections every 2 years, if running ads a year before the election counts as attempting to influence the election, then every ad run at any time is attempting to influence the upcoming election.

      Correct.

      That's how politicians do it now. Obama was the first to really embrace it, he never really stopped campaigning after winning the first time. Trump is doing it now, continuing to do rallies and campaign stuff. Campaigning never stops these days, it's just a bit less intense the further from the next election you get.

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  23. Just Plain Empty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You fucking tool - I live in Europe and I was born in a commonwealth country.
    Your snide ignorant remark adds a lot of shit, and nothing of value at all.
    Typical zeppo basement-dwelling ignoramus.

  24. Fuck off with this nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Obama literally threatened Brits about which way to vote, and now the Americans are making a fuss over Russia posting some ads to try to change peoples mind.

    1. Re:Fuck off with this nonsense by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Not that simple. The ads were targeted very specifically. A large number were "narrowcast" at certain geographic areas...perhaps even down to the district level. It is very likely US citizens helped the Russians with this.

      US law is very clear about foreign interests spending money to influence a US election. It is illegal. Good luck dragging a Russian military intelligence expert into court to face charges, though. However, anybody in the US who actively assisted, for example by providing granular data on where and to whom ads should go, is aiding and abetting in the commission of a crime.

      Can you think of anybody who might have done such a thing? (cough) Trump (cough).

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    2. Re:Fuck off with this nonsense by Jack_the_Tripper · · Score: 1

      Not that simple. The ads were targeted very specifically. A large number were "narrowcast" at certain geographic areas...perhaps even down to the district level. It is very likely US citizens helped the Russians with this.

      Probably just used the data that Facebook collects by tracking people 24/7 all over the interwebs. Of course they wouldn't use all that data to help ad campaigns to '"narrowcast" at certain geographic areas' or anything like that, they collect it for, umm... different reasons?

      The level of naivety is staggering sometimes...

    3. Re:Fuck off with this nonsense by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      One quarter of the currently known ads were targeted geographically. The others used other criteria.

      The level of asshattery is staggering sometimes...

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    4. Re: Fuck off with this nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The ads were targeted very specifically"

      The Russians had the demographic data which they stole from the DNC (and probably others like the RNC) computers.

  25. Re: Except it was fake news from media companies.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I just did read the "hot tub" email. It's clearly from a friend inviting Podesta and others to join them on what sounds like a family retreat of sorts. The kids you refer to are the children of the folks inviting Podesta, and the "entertainment" is referring to the fact that the kids will be having a blast in a heated pool.

    If you think that's about child molestation, you're deluding yourself, and your mind is in the wrong place.

    Here's a thought exercise: pretend you have kids and are inviting some friends to join you on a get-together or retreat. How would you phrase in the email that there's a nice heated pool, and your kids will be there, enjoying the pool as well. See if you can come up with a way to say it that doesn't sound like pedophilia in your head.

  26. Re: Except it was fake news from media companies.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, you moral panic people never change, always selectively giving credence to "evidence" that points to the most outrageous interpretation, even when it is ludicrous on its face.

    If you were alive for the "satanic ritual abuse" nonsense that sent totally innocent people to jail in the 80's, I am sure you'd be on that bandwagon, too.

  27. Re:Not irony at all. Standard PR propaganda. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    The fundamental difference between R and D is this:

    Republicans want to change society by forcing people to behave a certain way.

    Democrats want to change society through the tax system.

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  28. Re:The alleged "spending spree" was two years long by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    I'd bet it's all about this: http://fortune.com/2017/09/06/...
    Facebook caught cheating, says 'Let's divert the attention by blaming Russia' . It works. They also ate my homework.

  29. Re:Not irony at all. Standard PR propaganda. by Kielistic · · Score: 1

    This really reads like an ironic joke.. But I've never observed you having the where-with-all to make such a joke.

  30. same same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't need to look any further than the social justice movement, including feminism 3.0, both largely left issues, to see that democrats also want to inflict change by forcing people to behave a certain way, in a much more heavy-handed way.

    I suppose you chose to ignore that non-difference because to you, it's not "forcing people" if the belief is the righteous one, it's just allowing them to see the light. It's only the other guys that are doing the forcing, since you don't agree with them.

  31. Did Russia just limit things to attacking Hillary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So Liberals seem to think that Putin has a pet hate for Hillary and just attempted to hack her specifically in order to get Trump elected, right?

    NOPE: Russia has an ongoing disinformation campaign and hacking campaign to subvert and undermine democracy everywhere.

    Antifa? Russia
    Far right guys? Russia
    Fucking shitty comments with poor grammar? Russia
    Calls for more socialist programs on every fucking forum on the internet? Russia

  32. So.....what... by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    1) $100,000 in what is touted as an election that involved $6+ billion in campaigning. Um, drop in the bucket.

    2) We have freedom of speech and freedom of press. That means even Russia is within their right to take out full page ads and express their views. And since the United States conducts international business, including with Russian firms and individuals, why would we expect them not to have an opinion on matters that could affect their economic investments with the U.S.?

    3) "Most of the ads and accounts didn't have to explicitly do with the election or either of the then-candidates, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Instead, they were focused on divisive political topics, including LGBT issues, immigration and gun rights."

    More than likely, what REALLY happened, is that $100,000 was American's who funneled funds thru Russia to purchase ads beyond what we allow individuals to donate to campaigns.

    Can we stop with the Russia election BS. Trump did not win because of Russia. Trump won because the Democrats chose to cheat their non-establishment candidate out of the nomination. And then ran a candidate who was the epitome of establishment and a long running history of scandals, and "getting away" with crap the average person never would. Hence, the Democrats lost because of Hillary. And nothing else is to blame.

  33. Re:The alleged "spending spree" was two years long by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    Wow, that video. Zuck is proof that any idiot in America really can become a billionaire. Not every idiot, but in the course of events it will so happen that some idiots out there will succeed and become very rich. It touched on Zuck to make that this time around.

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  34. No, by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    By cheating, we mean the following:

    - faked coin flips
    - was given debate questions ahead of time
    - removed Bernie supporters from the registration rolls
    and more...

    And we're only talking about the crap we know about.

  35. The problem ... by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    Our own government is not our friend. Has engaged is far more of the above. And is probably now more of a danger to the U.S. than a foreign power.

  36. Oh my.... by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    You are a Kool-Aid drinker if we ever saw one. Can you share some of that stuff you've been smoking?

  37. You're an idiot... by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    Really, okay, so they targeted folks who were pro-gun, and pro-life, highly targeted....yada yada.

    And do you think ANY of that demographic was going to vote for Hillary? Duh...

  38. Re: Not irony at all. Standard PR propaganda. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dynamite = stabilized nitroglycerine

  39. There's an idiot in the room, alright... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    You have no idea who they targeted. Do you imagine they're so simple-minded as to preach to the choir?

    Moron.

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  40. Re:The alleged "spending spree" was two years long by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    Ewww. Ok, I can say after that that I'm not the stuff billionaires are made of.

    Anyway, I hadn't even watched the video, it's not related to the article, and I only saw that the article I pointed at was related to another /. article , this one https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... .

  41. Russia controls All the Media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, America has a huge problem with Russia controlling all the media. Not Faceberg, Google, Twitter, George Soros, Fill-In-The-Blank Cultural Marxist, etc. etc. deliberately manipulating the election, as they were.