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Apple Reports 400 Percent Rise In National Security Requests (thenextweb.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Next Web: Apple received a record number of national security orders this year, according to its bi-annual report published this week. The company stated it received more than 13,250 national security requests affecting over 9,000 accounts in the first half of 2017. Compared to the same period in 2015, this represents a threefold increase. National Security Requests are subpoenas by the government which oblige companies or individuals to share their data for national security purposes. The requests are usually made in the form of National Security Letters and are demanded only when it's indispensable to an investigation. The reason for this rise in numbers is still unclear. The company also revealed it provided data in 44 non-civil governmental cases, information which hadn't been revealed in its previous reports.

44 comments

  1. Donald Trump is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Impeach the fucking criminal administration that investigates critics and compliments the KKK. Fuck all Trump trash.

    1. Re:Donald Trump is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another well constructed and intellectual response to anything done under President Trump's administration.

      Oops. I meant to say another example of TDS.

    2. Re:Donald Trump is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hilarious and original

    3. Re: Donald Trump is a joke by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

      I can't find anything wrong or incorrect about his criticism.

    4. Re:Donald Trump is a joke by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      Accurate

  2. The reason for increase should be clear by JoshuaZ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    George W. Bush and Obama were people who at least cared a tiny, tiny amount about civil liberties even as they established precedents which were easily abused. And now, we're seeing what happens when one has people in charge (Trump and Sessions) who don't even bother pretending that they care about civil liberties.

    1. Re:The reason for increase should be clear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      George W. Bush and Obama were people who at least cared a tiny, tiny amount about civil liberties even as they established precedents which were easily abused.

      Way to contradict the living fuck out of the former statement with the latter. Am I supposed to be impressed?

      And now, we're seeing what happens when one has people in charge (Trump and Sessions) who don't even bother pretending that they care about civil liberties.

      Apples latest revelations doesn't even hold a fucking candle to what NSA has abused well before Trump came along. Not saying he's any better, but at least he's up-front about his intentions.

    2. Re:The reason for increase should be clear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your heroes are losers. You are supporting a lost cause. And believe me, I knew the original Nazis, because you see, I was born in Austria in 1947, shortly after the Second World War,” KILL ALL NAZI FAGGOTS.

    3. Re: The reason for increase should be clear by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 0

      Yes, I much prefer to be raped by a guy who tells me up front that's his plan, rather than wined and dined by a guy just hoping for some action. The honesty is so refreshing! Why can't everyone see how great and refreshing this guy and his honest sexual abusing approach really can be if you just lie back and try to enjoy it!!????

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    4. Re: The reason for increase should be clear by bestweasel · · Score: 1

      When you say "KILL ALL NAZI FAGGOTS", are you using faggots as a generic term of abuse or are you referring specifically to homosexual men? If it's the latter then does this mean you don't want to kill non-gay Nazis and if so what's the correct punishment for them? Should they be slapped around a bit or let off with a stiff arm?

      In either case, I'm surprised at your language. You should know that faggot as a term of abuse is frowned upon by most people on the left and killing Nazis based on their sexuality would definitely be regarded as discriminatory.

      And how would you tell them apart? Ever since Ernst Rohm and his pals came to their sticky ends, gay Nazis have been a bit wary of coming out of the bunker and understandably keep their inclinations secret.

      You'd probably be better changing it to "KILL ALL NAZIS" as it would offend fewer people, if you don't feel strongly one way or the other.

    5. Re:The reason for increase should be clear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rubbish. Bush and Obama did not care about civil liberties. If you actually look at what they did, they did not keep the security agency accountable.

    6. Re:The reason for increase should be clear by fafalone · · Score: 1

      They didn't care about civil liberties. They cared about looking like they cared about civil liberties while wiping their ass with the Bill of Rights. Now of course Darth Cheeto and Herr Ernie are wiping their ass with the Bill of Rights and setting it on fire afterwards, but neither act is praiseworthy.

    7. Re: The reason for increase should be clear by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

      Like how he said he would drain the swamp, and then filled DC with white corporate cronies and shills? He is a con man, and as such his intentions are never clear.

    8. Re:The reason for increase should be clear by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      Oh, so the NSA is NO LONGER MONITORING CITIZENS?
      Is that your claim?
      Do you want to buy some land in the everglades?

  3. Way to drain the swamp by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Troll

    Compared to the same period in 2015, this represents a threefold increase.

    Sounds like somebody's enjoying being in charge of the Deep State. Who could have guessed?

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    1. Re: Way to drain the swamp by bestweasel · · Score: 1

      Quite a lot of the increase this year came from the investigations into people connected with Trump.

    2. Re:Way to drain the swamp by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Compared to the same period in 2015, this represents a threefold increase.

      Sounds like somebody's enjoying being in charge of the Deep State. Who could have guessed?

      Sounds more like somebody linked to an article that references this article, but screwed up the numbers.

      In its biannual transparency report, released on Thursday, Apple said it received between 13,250 and 13,499 national security orders, affecting between 9,000 and 9,249 accounts. In the first months of 2016, the company received less than a quarter of that: 2,750 to 2,999 orders affecting between 2,000 to 2,249 accounts.

      Note that TFA from the submission managed to get the fucking timeframe wrong in addition to adding that "threefold" bullshit. All while hoping you don't actually check the original Apple report or the article they link to at the end they so expertly fucked up.

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  4. That's not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Considering how we have investigators looking under everyone's bed on the hunt for Red October, I'm surprised it's only a 400 percent increase.

  5. Misleading article is misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    [...] National Security Letters [...] are demanded only when it's indispensable to an investigation.

    This is demonstratively untrue, as has become clear even through the usually attached gag orders on the NSLs: An NSL is simply more convenient to issue, carries a lower burden of proof on the requester, and neatly shuts up the requestee. Oh, and NSLs aren't "requests" as there's basically no way to decline. But hey, at least they're overseen by a court, right? By a secret court, in secret, following secret rules. Such "requests".

    These things are highly corrosive to due process and that thing so elusive you don't even have a word for it, but the Germans and Dutch call "rechtsstaat". Go look it up. It means that NSLs prove the government entirely untrustworthy.

    Yes, if Mr. Orange would want to really MAGA, he could do worse than just forbid NSLs entirely.

  6. Why compare 2017 to 2015? by NaCh0 · · Score: 2

    Why are they comparing 2017 to 2015? Did anyone else notice they skipped 2016?

    I guess someone read the how to lie with statistics book.

    1. Re:Why compare 2017 to 2015? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Why are they comparing 2017 to 2015? Did anyone else notice they skipped 2016?

      I guess someone read the how to lie with statistics book.

      Why should we believe what Apple is reporting . . . ? Maybe the true number is 4,000 % . . . would Apple tell us the truth, if the government did not want us to know . . . ?

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    2. Re:Why compare 2017 to 2015? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      would Apple tell us the truth, if the government did not want us to know . . . ?

      If they lied all it would take is one person to leak to the truth and ruin their credibility. So what's in it for them to lie that would justify that level of risk? Its not like lying about the number is going to get them more customers, Android users are going to have at least as much exposure to government snooping as Apple users.

    3. Re:Why compare 2017 to 2015? by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      Why should we believe what Apple is reporting . . . ? Maybe the true number is 4,000 % . . . would Apple tell us the truth, if the government did not want us to know . . . ?

      Why wouldn't they? The government specifically set the rules so that companies like Apple are only allowed to report a range of 250. The assumption was obviously that Apple for example would report "1 to 250 requests" and the public would be left to guess. Now they are allowed to report "13,001 to 13,250", so that's what they do.

    4. Re:Why compare 2017 to 2015? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Why wouldn't they?

      Maybe . . . because they lie like rugs on a host of other things . . . ?

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      Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
  7. Three-fold or 400% increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Which is it?

    1. Re:Three-fold or 400% increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fail at math:

      100 -> 100 = 0% increase
      100 -> 200 = 100% increase
      100 -> 300 = 200% increase
      100 -> 400 = 300% increase

    2. Re: Three-fold or 400% increase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you high, stupid or both? Are you making GPs case or arguing against it? Stay in school, kid. You need it.

  8. Mining the ecosystem by CustomBuild · · Score: 1

    Iphones are ubiquitous products and I'm not surprised to find a large focus on mining the resulting information.

  9. Where is Sherlock Holmes! by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

    Yeah ... It is a real mystery why there is a sudden spike in fascism in the US. Make Americans Grip Ankles! #MAGA

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    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  10. 400% rise = threefold increase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This public service announcement brought to you by liberals.

  11. Worth wondering... by TheZeitgeist · · Score: 2

    Apple gadgets don't throw off user data to Apple ecosystem beyond the meta, storefronts, and iCloud. I wonder if the increase in NSL's going Apple's way is for iCloud stuff, and the increase reflects Apple's organically increasing cloud-user base instead of newfound zealotry on part of DoJ. Other companies - especially Google's - numbers on this front will be that much more interesting.

    1. Re:Worth wondering... by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      The NSL is more a chilling cover for parallel construction.
      Most people are expected to have no working bank accounts (frozen assets), no access to more lawyers and no access to expert witnesses.
      The NSL helps when a rare person can still fund a working defence. Their real experts can afford archaic legal terms like discovery.
      A NSL just ensures nobody ever has to help in any way with later questions.
      Methods stay secret and lawyers can keep asking all they want.

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  12. "400 Percent Rise"? by ve3oat · · Score: 2

    Excuse me, but a "threefold increase" as quoted in the summary does not equal a "400 percent rise" as mentioned in the headline.

    Who writes these headlines and where did they learn to do arithmetic?? For the record, a threefold increase equals a 200% rise. Maybe this evident innumeracy is somehow connected with the apparent rise in fascism mentioned by another reader.

    1. Re:"400 Percent Rise"? by ve3oat · · Score: 1

      The bad arithmetic first appears in the article at thenextweb.com and has been repeated, unquestioningly, by slashdot. Tsk, tsk.

      My name isn't Trump but I would call this fake news.

    2. Re:"400 Percent Rise"? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      For the record, a threefold increase equals a 200% rise.

      English is stupid anyway. If I fold something three times, then I've folded it into eight parts. Unless I tri-fold it, in which case it's in three parts, as you say. But wait, we're talking about sheep folds, which neither fold, nor are they a place where you fold sheep. What a goddamned train wreck.

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    3. Re: "400 Percent Rise"? by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

      An editorial oversight does not make something fake news. What next, typos?

    4. Re: "400 Percent Rise"? by ve3oat · · Score: 1

      No, but if another news service or an op-ed writer quotes just the headline with its embedded untruth and without investigating further, the original "editorial oversight" begins to take on a life of its own. Voila — fake news! Isn't that how it has so often happened?

  13. How many requests are for nude pictures? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The NSA admitted to sharing nude pictures amongst their workers. We all know how informative this is in the struggle against terrorism.

    So why not make it official with a request to apple?

    PS: I wish I was trolling but we all know how effective mass surveillance is.

  14. "an investigation" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when you collect everything that Apple steals and sucks up from your phone, from tens of thousands of people, then it's not an "investigation", it's wide-and-far spying and theft of personal data.

    Apple happily facilitates it, remember that before you buy your next phone.

    1. Re: "an investigation" by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

      Yeah they "facilitate" it by encrypting everything on their devices and refusing to unlock phones for the jackboots? Your definition of facilitate needs some work.

    2. Re: "an investigation" by ve3oat · · Score: 1

      To the Moderator --
      Please move the above comment to the article for which it was intended. (I expect it was the item about Equifax, several items up the page.)

  15. The correct numbers by ahto · · Score: 1

    A look at the original reports reveals that actually both the "threefold" and the "by 400%" claims are completely wrong.

    The number ranges (apparently there are regulations banning Apple from giving specific numbers) for the requests are: 750-999 for 1H2015, 2750-2999 for 1H2016, 13250-13499 for 1H2017. Taking the mean to represent each band, we can see that from 2015 to 2017 the number of requests actually increased 15.3 times (or by 1430 percent if you like that notation). The increase from 2015 to 2016 was 3.3 times (or 230%) and the increase from 2016 to 2017 was 4.7 times (or 370%).

    The number ranges for the affected accounts are: 250-499 for 1H2015, 2000-2249 for 1H2016, 9000-9249 for 1H2017. So, from 2015 to 2017 the number of affected accounts increased 24.4 times (or by 2340 percent). The increase from 2015 to 2016 was 5.7 times (or 470%) and the increase from 2016 to 2017 was 4.3 times (or 330%).

    1. Re: The correct numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some cats could really use a set of gloves.