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North Korea Gets Second Route To Internet Via Russia Link (bloomberg.com)

Russia is providing North Korea another way to get on the internet, according to cybersecurity outfit FireEye. In an interview on Monday, FireEye's chief technology officer for the Asia-Pacific region, Bryce Boland, said that Russia telecommunications company TransTeleCom opened a new link for users in North Korea. Until now, state-owned China United Network Communications Ltd. was the country's sole connection. Bloomberg reports: "Having an additional loop via Russia gives North Korea more options for how they can operate and reduces the possibility for the United States to put pressure just on a single country to turn off their internet connectivity," Boland said. For Russia, it offers "visibility into North Korean network traffic that might help them understand what North Korea is up to." TransTeleCom, a unit of state-owned Russian Railways JSC, is one of the country's five largest communications service providers, according to its website. The company operates a fiber optic network that runs along railway lines and stretches from Vladivostok to St. Petersburg. TransTeleCom "has historically had a junction of network links with North Korea" under a 2009 agreement with Korea Post and Telecommunications Corp, the company's press office said in an emailed statement that offered no other details.

73 comments

  1. How about a third one? by sTERNKERN · · Score: 0

    To Japan. Anime might just that country a spin :)

    1. Re:How about a third one? by sTERNKERN · · Score: 0

      "give" was the word I was looking for.

    2. Re:How about a third one? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      more like 3 generations of punishment if you are found with any of that.

    3. Re:How about a third one? by sheramil · · Score: 0

      What the hell is up with people forgetting verbs lately? Is there some aspect to phone posting that causes people to forget them?

    4. Re:How about a third one? by sTERNKERN · · Score: 0

      Nah.. no phone was involved. I just changed my mind about what / how to write and overlooked the missing verb in the preview. Mea culpa.

    5. Re:How about a third one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I'm sure cartoons will fix all of their problems.

    6. Re:How about a third one? by Paid+KGB+Troll · · Score: 0

      Do not worry. You Americans will not verb when it is all over with.

      For the motherland.

    7. Re:How about a third one? by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      Yes, I'm sure cartoons will fix all of their problems.

      Don't be so dismissive...

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    8. Re:How about a third one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, noun verbs YOU!

    9. Re:How about a third one? by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Intuitively, I think it might be a symptom of chronic stress. Since 2016 I think everyone in this country, with the possible exception of the totally uninformed, have been under a great deal of stress from multiple sources, and it's just getting worse and worse as time goes by.

    10. Re:How about a third one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      All these angry shitheads and armchair generals, but nobody's willing to play the long game.

      If we can successfully integrate North Korea into the world community, their contributions to the fucked up porn world are going to be off the charts in just a few decades.

  2. Too honest by amalcolm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For Russia, it offers "visibility into North Korean network traffic that might help them understand what North Korea is up to."


    Surely they won't peek?

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    1. Re:Too honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that Russia is expecting that they can influence the elections in North Korea. Oops!

    2. Re:Too honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      North Korea is the only country in the world actively testing ICBM and nuclear weapons at the moment on practically a biweekly basis, which hasn't happened for 25 years. I'm sure they want that data.

    3. Re:Too honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So some jarhead downloads porn to his USB stick ... and then puts same stick into the launch computer ..... BOOM

    4. Re:Too honest by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Surely they won't peek?

      You can be certain that they are already peeking. If you have a country run by wacky kooks next door, who are playing around with nukes and missiles, you might just want to know what they are up to.

      Russia most likely has their own USS Jimmy Carter.

      Or they have just bribed or blackmailed some network operator folks to get access. People always think about yet even more higher tech when they hear about spying. No, the older methods are more effective. A bribe is cheaper than hiring a band of hackers.

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    5. Re:Too honest by bobbied · · Score: 1

      ..... BOOM

      That's the sound of the antiaircraft gun firing squad removing the jarhead from the gene pool..

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    6. Re: Too honest by fubarrr · · Score: 1

      Well, Russians had 2 unannounced ICBM live fire drills last month

  3. Wow by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

    Now they can download at 112K!

    1. Re:Wow by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      For the readers too young to remember: https://www.wired.com/2000/02/...

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    2. Re:Wow by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Would that be 112SouthK or 112 NorthK?

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    3. Re:Wow by ITRambo · · Score: 1

      112 Best Korea. There is no other according to lil KIm.

    4. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What both users at once!

  4. Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Russia says, the enemy of our enemy is our enemy as well. We see no problem with North Korean hackers, as they have committed to not attack any Russian infrastructure, but only that of western countries boycotting Russia and North Korea.

    We have nothing to do with the upcoming increase in cyberattacks on western targets. We do not even know it will happen. We deny everything, even before it happens, so we are innocent.

    1. Re:Russia by TimSSG · · Score: 3, Informative

      FYI: North Korean was a Russia client state before it was a Chinese client state in the 20th century. Tim S.

    2. Re:Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't the Chinese fight with NK during the Korean War in the fifties?

  5. Part of a larger strategy by hyades1 · · Score: 1, Troll

    This is just the latest move in a bigger game.

    Not many people noticed, but even while Trump was excoriating China over its support of North Korea and demanding it cut back its support of the rogue regime, Russia was moving in to take up the slack. In the first three months of this year, Russia significantly increased its trade with North Korea. I don't know what more recent figures show, but I have to think it's more of the same.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/06/05/russia-boosts-trade-north-korea-china-cuts/102389824/

    From the Chinese perspective, how can this look like anything except Trump using his position of power to push China out of a market so his buddy Vladimir Putin can move in and pick up the slack?

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    1. Re:Part of a larger strategy by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0

      Sure, that North Korean market is going to make a mint for anyone involved! It's not like the North Koreans have a track record of totally screwing over their business partners in South Korea or China. That's got to be it, Der Trumpenfuhrer is getting TEH ROOSHINS fantastically wealthy by all this new trade. Keep checking under your beds for TEH ROOSHINS, and tell all your patriotic American friends to do the same!

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    2. Re:Part of a larger strategy by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      So why did Trump care so much about China's dealings with North Korea, but not Russia's?

      I'll wait...

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    3. Re:Part of a larger strategy by sabbede · · Score: 1

      Your first clue can be found by looking at a map. The second is in the trade figures - 90% with China or through Chinese intermediaries. Also, the company may already be under sanctions, leaving us without much leverage.

    4. Re:Part of a larger strategy by sabbede · · Score: 1
      The article cites a 73% increase in Russo-Korean trade. In 2015, Russia accounted for .2% of the DPRK's exports ($5.58 mil) and 2.3% of imports ($78.2 mil). China was 83% and 85% of exports and imports respectively.

      That 73% increase means jack squat.

    5. Re:Part of a larger strategy by sabbede · · Score: 1
  6. in Soviet Russia we network you! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Funny

    in Soviet Russia we network you!

  7. Russia actively undermining the USA, right? by bogaboga · · Score: 1, Troll

    A sizeable number of Slashdotters will agree:

    Russia is actively undermining the US of A's [potential] hegemony here. Folks in the US administration cannot be impressed by this development, can they?

    For Russia, even after a few rounds of sanctions from the US, its economy reportedly grew!

    Good for them.

    1. Re:Russia actively undermining the USA, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol, what? No it didn't. The ruble and the GDP both fell. That said, that's largely due to the decline in oil prices, but sanctions hurt foreign investment, something which actually DOES hurt the Russian economy, which was the intention of the sanctions - not to cripple it, which it would never have done anyway.

    2. Re:Russia actively undermining the USA, right? by bobbied · · Score: 1

      The Russians don't scare me, though they have my respect.... They are reasonable players in the world so it's not that hard to figure out what they are going to do and how they are going to react to things. They are not going to do something really stupid and get into a shooting type conflict with the USA. They understand it would be a really bad thing for all involved. I think of them like a guard dog behind a fence. They may bark, but as long as I stay on this side of the fence, they won't hurt me.

      Kim and the DPRK scare me. I have zero respect for them, but they scare me in so far as they can inflict significant damage. Everybody knows they'd not prevail should the cease fire agreement goes away and the Korean War goes into a shooting affair again. However, reducing DPRK's military to rubble would take a couple of days at least and in the mean time they'd be able to do some serious damage to South Korea. Think of them like a angry dog with no leash, collar or fence barking at you. You had better be ready to deal with them, draw the firearm and take the safety off.

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    3. Re:Russia actively undermining the USA, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why we should starve their children and make sure they get no medicines or any other help from us. Then that "angry dog" will respect us and know who the boss is. Let some other chump bring a dog treat (aka internet) and make friends with it.

  8. zionic nazi psychos use media to shock & awe u by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    self chosen to inventory & delete us as needed,, brought to us from madison.ave.war.profit.. all what's missing is the truth about us & our history of abuse induced violent hysteria.. cease fire stand down.. own worst enemy clause applies.. thanks again..

  9. The first connection by Baleet · · Score: 1

    You probably guessed, but because the summary omitted it, from TFA: "Until now, state-owned China United Network Communications Ltd. was the country’s sole connection."

  10. What are the IP ranges? by klubar · · Score: 2

    News for geeks... helpful if someone included the IP ranges so for those who desire to do so, the NK ranges could be blocked.

    1. Re:What are the IP ranges? by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Informative

      175.45.176.0/22 - this is directly assigned by APNIC and is the DPRK's only known native IP space allocation.
      210.52.109.0/24 - this was assigned by China Unicom as part of their connectivity provision for the DPRK, also assigned from the APNIC RIR pool.
      77.94.35.0/24 - assigned by SatGate, a Russian satellite communications provider, and is from the RIPE RIR pool.

      Presumably, they'll now be adding a further allocation (another /24?) for the fixed line into Russia as well. All data obtained from Your Friendly North Korean Network Observer (no affiliation), which is worth a read if you're curious out the DPRK's Internet infrastructure, such as it is.

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    2. Re:What are the IP ranges? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

      News for geeks... helpful if someone included the IP ranges so for those who desire to do so, the NK ranges could be blocked.

      Unfortunately Russia could act as a proxy to confuse the issue.

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    3. Re:What are the IP ranges? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately Russia could act as a proxy to confuse the issue.

      I'd assume the majority of those who wish to preemptively block north korea likely wouldn't mind, or already have, blocked russian IP blocks too.

      In that sense it would only be confusing if you applied a text label to the IP block rules and expected it to be specifically accurate vs just generally functional.

      Of course even that can be solved by making the text label "evil bad men" for all of those IP blocks instead of labeling them by country.

    4. Re:What are the IP ranges? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd assume the majority of those who wish to preemptively block north korea likely wouldn't mind, or already have, blocked russian IP blocks too.

      I'd love to preemptively hack them, on behalf of the West.

    5. Re:What are the IP ranges? by subanark · · Score: 1

      Won't help much. Any hacker will just use a proxy, and their ain't no way you are going to block NK, all proxies that allow Russia to use them, all proxies that allow other proxies to use them, and anyone's machine they can hack into.

      If someone isn't using a proxy from NK, let them. Don't help enforce the firewalls they already have in place. Any opportunity people from NK (even if it is just the elite) have to learn about the world around them, the more likely they will oppose the NK's administration.

  11. Thanks Russia - for nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Russia created the Stalinist state of North Korea
    Russia provided North Korea with missile and nuclear weapons technology until the 1990's.
    Now this. Kindred spirits.

  12. These folks don't sppear to agree with you... by bogaboga · · Score: 1

    ...And they do more business with Russia than the USA.

    Have a read.

    1. Re:These folks don't sppear to agree with you... by orlanz · · Score: 2

      The article didn't get the point you intended across. In summary, because of the international sanctions, Russia has shifted its domestic economy more to agricultural production rather than import unbanned agricultural products. They revised their GDP growth from negative 0.6% to -0.5%. General economic growth is expected to be between 1-2%. These are ridiculously crappy numbers for a society that has poor infrastructure, and primarily a labor based market.

      The article paints this as if the sanctions aren't working by comparing it to expectations that the economy should have crashed. This premise is based on just politician's talking points. But it is completely false. The point of sanctions isn't to crash the economy, create unrest, and leave the populace with little choice but to overthrow their leaders. If you want to crash the economy, infrastructure sabotage is best (ie: 9/11). But this is stupid, as all it will do is band the populace under their current leadership. Additionally, those with little to lose are more like to envy their neighbors and go to war (lesson of WWI and WWII).

      No, the sanctions are doing exactly what they intended. They are preventing Russia from playing in the international economic game and reducing the speed of their social progress. Eventually they MAY see how far behind they are compared to other nations. But its a win win for the rest of the world. Either Russia will change or eventually become a low cost labor pool like China was 25 years ago. The nice thing about sanctions is that once lifted, the underlying economy will have massive growth and they can quickly catch up.

      If sanctions non-violently switched a Russian rocket scientist or dentist from practicing their craft to baking bread... I don't think anyone should consider that a positive.

    2. Re:These folks don't sppear to agree with you... by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Except they are not really succeeding. DPRK has enough military capability that we are all afraid of what they could do before anyone can take them out. We have been for years. The have much of SE Asia hostage.

      Russia has made it impossible for us to achieve our objectives in Syria recently and successful undermine our polices trying to restrain Iran not long before.

      Sanctions cause the peoples to suffer but as long as the governments are able to convince them to make guns even while short on butter, these actors remain a problem. You mentioned WWI and WWII, I would argue all the post war history basically say sanctions don't work they buy a little time, occasions we get lucky and they buy decades but ultimately they fail to achieve our policy goals, every time its tried.

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  13. Realpolitic on parade by hyades1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The US hammers China for supporting North Korea. In order to protect its access to US markets, China pulls back a little...on coal exports, for example. Russia moves into the vaccuum and increases its trade with North Korea threefold in the first half of 2017 (specifically including increased coal export to North Korea).

    Russia's investment in getting a friend into the White House is sure paying off!

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    1. Re:Realpolitic on parade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US hammers China for supporting North Korea. In order to protect its access to US markets, China pulls back a little...on coal exports, for example. Russia moves into the vaccuum and increases its trade with North Korea threefold in the first half of 2017 (specifically including increased coal export to North Korea).

      Russia's investment in getting a friend into the White House is sure paying off!

      Yawn...

    2. Re: Realpolitic on parade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If America doesn't publish Russia in some way for doing this then the parent is right. Keep putting your head in the sand.

    3. Re: Realpolitic on parade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Publish == punish

    4. Re:Realpolitic on parade by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Yep we could go with huge conspiracy theory or we could admit that - sanctions don't work!

      I am not saying they don't have deleterious effects particularly on the populations of target countries but going over the latter half of the 20th century thru the present they don't seem to result in capitulation by leaders, lead to coups by or uprisings by populations with any certainty, and don't seem to achieve objectives like anti-proliferation.

      Sanctions at best buy time. As long as there is money involved someone will cheat. Somebody will buy that Iraqi oil, someone will run that network cable, someone will launder that money or help obscure the source of those conflict minerals. Chances are it will be China, Russia, or some South American state. Mostly likely it will be some actor just big enough we are not willing to impose transitive sanctions on. Example Russian Federation and Iran were cozy for decades; because we were unwilling to lock out the Russians as reprisal for continuing to trade with Iran...Iran continued to have access to international markets ultimately became a nuclear power (well maybe not technically but does anyone really believe they have A ended their program entirely or B don't already have what the need to be ready on pretty short notice to build a warhead they can put on their existing missiles even if it is short range).

      Face it you just cant get the entire international community playing ball, so it will ultimately always fail. Manage to twist an arm like China's hard enough to do the right thing, someone else will step in to fill the void; no conspiracy required.

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    5. Re:Realpolitic on parade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somebody will buy that Iraqi oil, someone will run that network cable, someone will launder that money or help obscure the source of those conflict minerals. Chances are it will be China, Russia, or some South American state.

      Nope, Brazil is solidly planted in the West. And, yes, I love when you say South America when referring to Brazil. Makes it look like we own it all [we will eventually do]. Wink!

    6. Re: Realpolitic on parade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly, your dick just isn't big enough.
      True, it's the best and biggest in the world, yet, still not quite big enough.

    7. Re:Realpolitic on parade by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Who said anything about a conspiracy? That's a subject you're raising, not me.

      Trump's efforts to help Russia increase its global influence are as blatantly obvious as an elephant's erection. No conspiracy here!

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    8. Re:Realpolitic on parade by sabbede · · Score: 1

      The volume of trade with Russia is so paltry (3% of all the DPRK's trade) that this year's 73% increase is next to meaningless.

    9. Re: Realpolitic on parade by sabbede · · Score: 1

      Assuming you mean punish, yes we need to but we may have already been doing so. Russia and many of it's big state-owned industries are already under heavy sanctions, so we may have already used all our leverage.

    10. Re:Realpolitic on parade by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      I was thinking more Argentina, and Venezuela and some other smaller states, actually.

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    11. Re:Realpolitic on parade by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      They might have an eye out, but they're too easily intimidated (in economic terms more than military).

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    12. Re: Realpolitic on parade by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      I think there's a lot more that could be done, but maybe I'm wrong. It's not something I follow in sufficient detail to have more than a general sense of the situation.

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    13. Re:Realpolitic on parade by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      If you understand only cash value and not influence, then Putin would clean you out if you ever had any position of authority in a government.

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    14. Re: Realpolitic on parade by sabbede · · Score: 1

      Maybe there is, figuring it out isn't simple. I don't even know where to start looking. But I do know that Russia is already under sanctions, so our new policy of coming down on companies that do business with the DPRK might not matter to the company building the link.

    15. Re:Realpolitic on parade by sabbede · · Score: 1
      Yes, yes, Putin loves to leverage soft power and there are at least a dozen different reasons for these moves. Hell, he could be thinking that the DPRK will collapse and wants to get a head start on an overland connection to South Korea. It could be that he just wants to annoy us, or more likely, that he's going to have companies that are already so heavily sanctioned that the DPRK related sanctions have no effect go in so he can say, "lift the sanctions and we'll cut ties". (which is my bet, ending the sanctions is a high priority for Putin)

      Which doesn't change the fact that a 73% increase to a very small number is still a very small number. Small enough that the increase could simply be due to Russian businesses taking advantage of an opportunity few others can.

  14. USA does not own the Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you have as little right to try to deny the people of North Korea access to Internet as you have the right to deny them water.

    1. Re: USA does not own the Internet by bestweasel · · Score: 1

      I doubt "the people of North Korea" get to use the internet. All access will be entirely controlled by, and for the sole benefit of, the state.

  15. Until ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... some Comcast cable guy goes up a pole and 'accidentally' cuts the line.

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    1. Re:Until ... by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Where I live, they can mess things up from the home office.... No need to climb a poll or cut anything.

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  16. Just won by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did Russia just win the internet?

  17. This is generally positive news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Internet brings undeniable openness. So saying that it is life line to rogue state is stupid.
    At least now on people who control internet in NK are under influence of it.

  18. Great idea, USA... by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 1

    ...to cut off an already isolated, despotic regime with nuclear weapons and long-range missiles, with a leader that craves international attention. Sooner or later, you're gonna have to sit down and talk with them. The alternative may be a nuclear warhead going off somewhere in south-east Asia, probably densely populated.

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    1. Re: Great idea, USA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If a nuke goes off in an allied city, there won't be just a single nuke going off. Trump would LOVE to show how tremendous and brave he is by ending the NK threat once and for all. So much so that he would assume he could without worrying about what happens next.