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Essential Is Getting Sued For Allegedly Stealing Wireless Connector Technology (gizmodo.com)

"Keyssa, a wireless technology company backed by iPod creator and Nest founder Tony Fadell, filed a lawsuit against Essential on Monday, alleging that the company stole trade secrets and breached their nondisclosure agreement," reports Gizmodo. Keyssa has proprietary technology that reportedly lets users transfer large files in a matter of seconds by holding two devices side by side. From the report: According to the lawsuit, Keyssa and Essential engaged in conversations in which the wireless tech company "divulged to Essential proprietary technology enabling every facet of Keyssa's wireless connectivity," all of which was protected under a non-disclosure agreement. More specifically, the lawsuit alleges that Keyssa "deployed a team 20 of its top engineers and scientists" to educate Essential on its proprietary tech, sending them "many thousands of confidential emails, hundreds of confidential technical documents, and dozens of confidential presentations." Essential ended this relationship after over 10 months and later told Keyssa that its engineers would use a competing chip in the Essential Phone. But Keyssa is accusing Essential of including techniques in its phone that were gleaned from their relationship, despite their confidentiality agreement. Central to this lawsuit is one of the Essential Phone's key selling points: the option to swap in modular add-ons, made possible thanks to the phone's unique cordless connector. In short, if Keyssa's claims hold water, then one of the phone's defining factors is a product of theft.

43 comments

  1. Supposed to Be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When there is enough idea, one should totally list the known-range-of-list.

  2. FTP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lemme guess. They're using this super-secret technology from our ancestors in Middle Earth...

    1. Re: FTP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to ancient alien theorists this technology was shared with humans and now the aliens have come back to protect their intellectual property.

      Some winged lawyer cried âoe Iâ(TM)ll take the case!â upon hearing the aliens accusations, and now we have a bunch of greys taking a small phone manufacturer to court.

    2. Re: FTP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Transferring information _on the internet_. Looks patentable.

    3. Re: FTP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And _with a computer_.

      Absolutely.

  3. Bullshit from a supplier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So two suppliers, Essential sees both, chooses one, the other supplier sues claiming theft of trade secrets.... but not the other supplier, it sues the customer who didn't choose their product.

    Nuisance lawsuit.

  4. Did it 20 years ago... by Gabest · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do you know how we bypassed wifi and bluetooth? We just directed our infra ports towards each other and the magic happened.

    1. Re:Did it 20 years ago... by Zocalo · · Score: 1

      If you had a PalmPilot it even played a sound while tranferring data. Magick indeed. Needless to say, any self-respecting nerd immediately replaced Palm's default warble with a recording of a ToS tricorder - in fact, I think that was actually mandatory if you had one of the models with the flip-up screen protector and wanted to retain any nerd-cred at all. Good times!

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    2. Re:Did it 20 years ago... by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

      Can't wait till LiFi comes out!

  5. "wireless connector" by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I do not think that word means what you think it means.

    1. Re:"wireless connector" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least they didn't try to sell you a wireless cable :)

    2. Re:"wireless connector" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shush, you, or we'll end up with Monster brand gold-plated wireless cables in our phones.

    3. Re:"wireless connector" by msauve · · Score: 1

      This is a wireless connector, not an electrical connector. "Connector" means "a thing that links two or more things together." So, it seems to be you who doesn't understand the meaning of the words.

      For the manufacturer, too, that's exactly what it's called.

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  6. The Magic of Wireless! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This sort of thing really hacks me off. Keyssa's technology is just an extremely short range radio link. Being short range, they immediately gain massive channel SNR improvements while still remaining within RF regulatory limits. This naturally (as in, the fundamental laws of physics) allows them to push more data through the channel compared to a similar long-range, omni-directional RF link, and they will just be using a standard modulation scheme - possibly even a very inefficient one - to do that.
      All the magical claims they make on their website are a direct consequence of physics - not some stupidity on behalf of the WIFI developers.

    There is nothing magic about this. There is not even anything novel about this. At best they would have done some measurements/sims of the channel and applied an appropriate bunch of standard signal processing techniques to best deal with the channel characteristics, though I imagine that since the channel is so well defined (their system even slots together to mechanically hold the antenna in position) they barely even had to do this.

    Why do we put up with this sort of junk as a society? There are plenty of companies that do not have particularly protectable technology (e.g. the numerous GPS chipset vendors) but compete and make money by having high quality, easy to use products that are more desirable than their competitors, or by offering better support. I'm sure that if Keyssa had a better product then their competitors at the right price they would be in the Essential phone right now.

    1. Re:The Magic of Wireless! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Yes, quite clearly it's that easy. Congratulations, you figured it out in 30 seconds when it otherwise took a team of 20+ engineers a considerable amount of time to come up with a working solution. I'm sure these guys are simply stupid for not seeing how easy it actually is and that's why you're earning a huge salary as a wireless communications engineer.

    2. Re:The Magic of Wireless! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why does it matter how many engineers had to work on the product? Lots of products take many hours of work from engineers, but the companies do not expect to have a monopoly in the market because of this. You don't see GM moaning that it had lots of engineers working on its Volt and that it is unfair that customers prefer the Leaf instead. Your argument is ignorant - capitalism does not give out prizes for participation.

    3. Re:The Magic of Wireless! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm sure that if Keyssa had a better product then their competitors at the right price they would be in the Essential phone right now."

      Their point is that their product is in the Essential phone right now and that it took 20 of their engineers to explain it to Essential in the first place.

      I'm hoping that if prooved, as a society we don't put up with this sort of junk.

    4. Re: The Magic of Wireless! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't imagine anyone prefers the leaf.

    5. Re:The Magic of Wireless! by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      At best they would have done some measurements/sims of the channel and applied an appropriate bunch of standard signal processing techniques to best deal with the channel characteristics

      So Keyssa spent a bunch of time, energy, and money to develop techniques for high-speed close range data transfer using existing tool sets and you don't think that's patent-able? Isn't that 100% the point of patents? To make inventions available for others to build off of, with the ability to protect yourself if someone blatantly takes what you've invented without paying you for it?

      "radio links work better when they are close together, for obvious reasons" and "it's not that hard and it's been done before" and is really your counter argument? If it was really that easy where is your example of where it's been done before? And why did it take 20 engineers and scientists 10 months to explain to Essential how to do it? I hate stupid patents as much as the next guy, but on the face of it this one seems legit.

    6. Re:The Magic of Wireless! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was really that easy where is your example of where it's been done before?

      Sony TransferJet - look it up.

    7. Re:The Magic of Wireless! by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Fucking beat me to it. This is exactly the TransferJet technology demoed like 10 years ago.

      Someone should let Sony know that Keyssa is violating their patents.

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    8. Re:The Magic of Wireless! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why do we put up with this sort of junk as a society?

      Because it's worth it. We want to vote for Democrats and Republicans in every election, or else stay home. Seeing any other party on the ballot is distasteful enough, but actually voting for non-evil people would be intolerably repugnant. (Because if you don't vote for your evil people, those other evil people might win!!)

      Allowing bullshit patent (and other) policies, is the small price we pay to have elections be the way we want them.

      C'mon, people, think about who you are and what you're going to do in 2018. You know for sure that Republicans and Democrats are not going to change patent law (or at least in any positive way). This is absolutely guaranteed. But when your congressional seats are available next year, who are you going to vote for? That's right: you're either going to stay home, or you're going to vote to keep patents crazy.

      Don't fucking lie and say it's not so. You're going to vote for Democrats or Republicans, so that the Republicans or Democrats don't win. And fuck any political-wannabe who wants to make the country and its laws less crazy. Am I right?

    9. Re:The Magic of Wireless! by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransferJet: 560 Mbit/s (max) / 375 Mbit/s (effective throughput)
      Hardly sounds capable of "allow[ing] transfers of large files like movies in a matter of seconds".

      A quick google came up with this (and a number of references to it) http://www.keyssa.com/intel_2i... claiming 5Gbps for Keyssa's tech. But sure, 375Mbps is pretty close. It's like saying LTE has been "done before" because we had TDMA 10 years ago.

    10. Re: The Magic of Wireless! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems straightforward. It's called a waveguide. My first guess would be 1/2 wavelength between point antennas. Then some modulation scheme like QAM(big number). Waveguide would cut down on noise so it looks like a wire where high QAM encodings are practical.

    11. Re:The Magic of Wireless! by hh4m · · Score: 1

      I believe it operates in the V band at 60 GHz but they did not implement the WiGig standard. It's a pretty cool single chip solution tho... There are a few competing products in the market, 60 GHz space is crowded. I'd personally hold of until the E-band (70/80/90 GHz) or D-band (~140 GHz) single chip implementations hit the market. They have better range than 60 GHz and a lot more bandwidth... 100 Gbps wireless isn't too far away...

    12. Re:The Magic of Wireless! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keyssa spent a bunch of time, energy, and money to develop techniques for high-speed close range data transfer using existing tool sets and you don't think that's patent-able

      It seems like it is Keyssa and/or the patent office that don't think this is patentable, otherwise there would actually be a patent. This is a dispute over trade secrets and non-disclosure agreements, not patents.

  7. and so what.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the company and Their phone are both a crawl and bad joke anyway

    1. Re:and so what.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is the era of bad jokes. expensive, horrible bad jokes.

  8. They're not the only one by DeplorableCodeMonkey · · Score: 1

    Google is accused of the same thing on a large scale. I guess the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it?

  9. Car keyfob by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Actually that really exists in the real world.

    Car keyfobs are an everyday example (and ob /. car analogy) :
    - There's a mechanical connector that grabs and holds firmly the key fob/card on the dashboard's receptacle.
    (e.g.: Volvo, Mercedes Benz, Saab, Renault, etc.)
    - There are no electrical contact at all. All transmission happens over wireless (most) or by infrared (some older Mercedes), charging/powering is done wireless by induction (most).

    It's literally a wireless connector.

    This has the benefit of making a perfect alignment between the fob/card and receptacle and thus insuring perfect alignment of the wireless inductor and antennas, which guarantees best possible data transmission and power efficiency.

    Similar problems have been solved by Palm's Touchstone to optimize wirless charging of Palm/HP's Pre smartphone by aligning them magnetically.
    (And by unreleased HP Touchstone by aligning the NFC antenna too).

    Similar problem ARE NOT currently solved by Qi, which relies to be just vaguely in the correct position but is a lot inefficient as a consequence.

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  10. tooth brushes by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Tooth brushes use literally wireless charging cables (e.g.: BRaun's Oral B)

    There's a *cable* bringing power to within a receptacle in the tooth brush.

    Inside the receptacle, the power transmission doesn't use any contact, only *wireless* charging.

    As I've mentioned in my car analogy, this has the benefit of aligning everything and insurance best possible power transmission efficiency.

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  11. Cars, and others... by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Congratulations, you figured it out in 30 seconds when it otherwise took a team of 20+ engineers a considerable amount of time to come up with a working solution.

    He didn't even need to *figure out*.

    Using mechanical coupling to increase wireless charging power efficiency or better data transmission has been used for ages in car's keyfob and some (non-QI) smartphone charging docks or toothbrush wireless charging cables (yep, it's a cable but it charges wirelessly. Because fuck everything).

    This thing is litteraly something that has been already known and even actually used in production.
    The company suing each other haven't invented something revolutionary and never though of.

    The wireless engineer were probably paid to make incremental improvement (better protocol and signal processing) and these micro-improvement are probably patentable (in 2017 technology, you can probably achieve multi-gigabits !)

    But if their sole "secret sauce" relies on "holding to things close to each other to achieve fast wireless transmission" : Sorry guys there's so much prior art on this, a lot of which is so old that their respective patent has expired by now.

    In other words :

    - if their technology is "by applying XyZ modern variation of CODFM on our Wireless Connector, we can finally reach 20Gbit/s !" - yes, it could be considered business intelligence.
    - if their technology is "we have a Wireless Connector Technology" - fuck you, the late 90s have called, they wanted their fancy car keyfob technology back.

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    1. Re:Cars, and others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      (yep, it's a cable but it charges wirelessly. Because fuck everything).

      Because toothbrushes get wet and they have your toothpaste spit dripping down them..

  12. This is essentially TransferJet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Prior art:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransferJet

    I think Toshiba had a similar technology with a different name.

  13. Re:Best phone ever by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    Having been an early adopter of new phones since the early Motorola flip phones I was a little sceptical about this phone but I can that it is without doubt and by a long margin the best phone I have ever owned.

    You're not going to get paid for astroturfing if nobody believes you. Try: using a registered account, including some product details (more than zero is a good start) and tone down the superlatives a bit. Every product has a downside, but by mentioning those and minimizing them people will tend to believe your ads more.

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  14. Initial agreement by spinitch · · Score: 1

    Not enough details supplied to gauge merit of either sides position. Curious what kind of arrangement was agreed to allow 10 months of collaboration then take a hike we are pursuing a different direction. Was KEyssa gullibly over selling or Essential negotiating in bad faith , or other? âoeEssential ended this relationship after over 10 months and later told Keyssa that its engineers would use a competing chipâ Did Essential pass tech to the competitor ? Would expect the competing chip Co also to be involved in the litigation. Anyway need to see how the lawyers and courts sort out. Even if Keyssa able to fully justify their claim The damages will probably be small proportional to the low volume of devices sold but might help deter others from trying to save $ and circumvent Keyssa. Will Essential be able to afford a legal fight? Maybe another consideration of Keyssa tactics.

  15. If the phone was really 'Essential'... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They would have put in a 3.5mm audio jack. Kind of glad they're being sued for something since they didn't put in still used port.

  16. Not about patents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This isn't about patents. It is about trade secrets. If Keyssa had been able to obtain a bunch of useful patents (even a bunch of BS ones) on all the work they did, they would have an injunction by now. That they didn't have that protection should set some alarm bells off regarding their claims that their tech is novel and hard to do.

    Trade secret litigation is the new frontier of IP protection. It was traditionally much more limited in scope, but also less well defined compared to other forms of intellectual property, but lawyers are working hard to use this fuzziness to expand the boundaries. If you are an engineer, then I would suggest you look into this more, because the end game is to basically to own all the technical skills currently contained in your head. If you are a manager, then I expect you would welcome this chance to create indentured servants out of all those expensive tech workers.

    1. Re:Not about patents by Pascoea · · Score: 1
      Should be pretty interesting.

      Keyssa alleged that despite Essential’s use of a different chip, the final Essential Phone design incorporates many of the techniques developed by Keyssa to make wireless connectors function well in a phone, from antenna designs to methods for testing phones on the manufacturing line.

      I struck out trying to find the actual complaint, but based on the vague summary from the article, seems like those would be pretty hard to prove.

      They do have about 50-ish patents/applications, a number of them relating to high-bandwidth interconnects. But you are correct, this lawsuit (again, from the vague article) is about trade secrets. And I'm right there with ya, the non-compete I had to sign for my new job pretty much says "unless you disclose an invention you have created on this piece of paper, if it's in any way related to our line of work, it's ours." Makes me glad my "engineering" stuff is just a hobby, and in a completely different area than my job...

  17. And Keyssa stole it from Ericsson AB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so think twice before you try to go to court and sue over things you stole yourself.

  18. Maybe Tony Fuckdell should sue the USB regulators by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

    Since the Essential phone implements, "Wireless USB."

  19. Re: Best phone ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not going to get paid regardless of what I write. I don't have a registered account and see no reason to sign up for one. Just sharing my opinion. The reader can freely choose to believe or not, I've done my bit either way. :)