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CNN Gets a First-Of-Its-Kind Waiver To Fly Drones Over Crowds (techcrunch.com)

The FAA has granted CNN a waiver that allows it to fly its Vantage Robotics Snap drone over open-air crowds of people at altitudes of up to 150 feet. "This is a new precedent in this kind of waiver: Previous exemptions allowed flight of drones over people in closed set operations (like for filmmaking purposes) and only when tethered, with a max height of 21 feet," reports TechCrunch. From the report: The new waiver granted to CNN, as secured through its legal counsel Hogan Lovells, allows for flight of the Vantage UAV (which is quite small and light) above crowds regardless of population density. It was a big win for the firm and the company because it represents a change in perspective on the issue for the FAA, which previously viewed all requests for exceptions from a "worst-case scenario" point of view. Now, however, the FAA has accepted CNN's "reasonableness Approach," which takes into account not just the potential results of a crashed drone, but also the safe operating history of the company doing the flying, their built-in safety procedures, and the features included on the drone model itself that are designed to mitigate the results of any negative issues.

60 comments

  1. A new lottery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Attend newsworthy open-air event.
    2. Look for CNN drone, stand underneath.
    3. ???
    4. Profit!

    1. Re: A new lottery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Waste a sand monkey

    2. Re: A new lottery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fly a kite or a helium balloon

  2. Compared to a camera crane by chispito · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Compared to a camera crane, it's pretty light-weight.

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  3. What!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What would CNN actually need a from for any way? Its not like they actually check any facts and half the time they arnt even reporting from the correct location live. I'm still waiting on CNN to read me the Wiki Leaks since its illegal for us common folk to do such a task. If they gave ISIS permission to fly drowns at least I could believe the reports produced by it and posted on their media.

    1. Re:What!?! by Sir+Lurkalot · · Score: 1

      What would CNN actually need a from for any way? Its not like they actually check any facts and half the time they arnt even reporting from the correct location live. I'm still waiting on CNN to read me the Wiki Leaks since its illegal for us common folk to do such a task. If they gave ISIS permission to fly drowns at least I could believe the reports produced by it and posted on their media.

      Anonymous Coward = bot...

  4. Re:yeah I bet..... by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    Seeing as how they use helicopters instead right now, this seems like it's still an improvement.

  5. This was the plan ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... announced long ago by FAA.

    The drone industry has more money than tobacco and gun combined.

    They will be ubiquitous. CNN is the test case.

    They floodgate are open.

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    1. Re:This was the plan ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The sure ares.

    2. Re:This was the plan ... by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Probably depends upon how you categorize the "drone industry". This group says it's only going to be about $12B in 2021. That's a drop in the bucket compared to tobacco (about $770B) or guns (about $51B). Now, if you're going to include things like Predator and Global Hawk UAVs, that's a different story, and IMO hardly comparable to "drones".

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

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    3. Re:This was the plan ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      ... and IMO hardly comparable to "drones"

      Your opinion is not relevant when there are facts.

      The drone, of all sorts, types, configurations, for non-military use is an innovation that will have impact and sales far beyond 2021.

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    4. Re:This was the plan ... by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Oh really. Please point to said "facts". I linked to one that disagreed with your opinion. So far, that's all you've got wiseguy.

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    5. Re:This was the plan ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      wiseguy

      Thanks.

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  6. Re:Trump has lost power now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looking at the parent and grand parent ... I'm wondering if we can get England to take us back.

    "We were just joking about being independent. Can we come back as something like Canada? Or maybe be a colony again? Pleeeeeaaase?!"

  7. Re:Trump has lost power now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    as fucked up as the u.s. is right now, the u.k. isn't fairing that much better.

  8. Selectivity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is great. Now CNN will be able to be even more selective about showing one side of a story and not the other side.

    1. Re:Selectivity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Of course it'll show only one side. The top side. They aren't allowed to fly drones under crowds yet.

  9. Not good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If no drones are allowed, then any drone is easily identified as a problem, and can be dealt with.

    If any drones are allowed, then how will illicit drones be identified?

    1. Re:Not good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If any drones are allowed, then how will illicit drones be identified?

      Illicit drones would (in theory) transmit the 'evil bit' over the aviation airband so air traffic control will know.

  10. Interesting by BlazeMiskulin · · Score: 1

    Meanwhile, in a different country, I've been doing this for the past 2 years (for a small company, not a big news org).

    1. Re:Interesting by kwerle · · Score: 2

      Welcome to the FAA. Cell phones & laptops will crash airliners! Thinks about it for a decade... Oh, maybe they won't.

    2. Re:Interesting by BlazeMiskulin · · Score: 1

      Toby Zeigler is my hero.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    3. Re:Interesting by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      If it might crash aircraft and might not, the FAA will ban it. It's their job. Moreover, it looks like almost all flight inconveniences are blamed on the TSA and FAA, despite what rumor and airline companies might do.

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  11. Re:Trump has lost power now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meanwhile Harpy Clinton was railing on about something incoherent and suddenly mentioned how she doesn't like sexual predators and then completely excused her husband for raping and assaulting other women. Battered wife syndrome I guess.

    Thats nothing! Instead of being married to one Trump IS a sexual predator.

  12. Having flown a lot of RC aircraft by OYAHHH · · Score: 2

    This has failed servo, failed ESC, failed battery, failed nut on prop, failed motor, failed transmitter, failed receiver , etc., etc. etc. =====>>>>>> LAWSUIT written all over it.

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    1. Re:Having flown a lot of RC aircraft by Sir+Lurkalot · · Score: 1

      Modding you up...

    2. Re:Having flown a lot of RC aircraft by suutar · · Score: 1

      sure, but the FAA now has enough documention that it should be safe to deflect a suit aimed at them. CNN may be on the hook if something goes wrong, but that's their problem - the FAA just has to tighten things back up after something breaks and they're golden.

  13. Not Typical Drone by rtb61 · · Score: 2

    Not the typical drone design with shrouded blades and snaps apart (bits flying off reduce impact from bulk bits). The safety elements incorporated in this design is clearly the reason for acceptance, this really needs to be pointed out, vs idiots who take an drone with exposed blade amongst people.

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    1. Re:Not Typical Drone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its not the issue with the safety factor I have, its all the idiots in the crowd who will chuck sticks at it that will cause the most damage.

    2. Re:Not Typical Drone by GrpA · · Score: 2

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      The Vantage Robotics UAV. Pretty light and safe.

      If some idiot throws sticks at it, there's more danger from the sticks that knocked it down than the drone itself.

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    3. Re:Not Typical Drone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beceuse lead is heavy

    4. Re:Not Typical Drone by nightfire-unique · · Score: 1

      If you think exposed blades are bad, imagine what it feels like to hit by a car that was legally travelling 40mph within 3' of you, as a cyclist/pedestrian.

      Getting hit by a 2lb plastic drone with spinning plastic propellers sucks. But let's try to keep risk assessment in perspective.

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    5. Re:Not Typical Drone by rtb61 · · Score: 0

      Let me just poke you in the eye with a pencil, what could the harm be, seriously just a pencil.

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  14. Hopefully the drone doesn't fall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...like CNN's ratings.

  15. This is an issue of liability, get the FAA out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If CNN wants to be stupid and take risks that endanger others fine. I don't really care. We just need to hold CNN to account for any injuries or damage CNN causes. It's no different than driving a car. We're all a risk to pedestrians on the roads and other vehicles. What should happen in a free market is CNN should take out insurance to protect itself from accidents and cover any injuries it causes. While I'm against mandating insurance for drones I'm all for holding drone operators liable for any damage. New Hampshire doesn't mandate insurance and yet it's got the highest percentage of insurance drivers in the country! Imagine that. The free market at work. Basically not mandating insurance reduces the amount that insurance companies can charge thereby keeping insurance prices within a sane range that more people will be able to afford and ultimately end up getting insured even where they don't technically have to.

    1. Re:This is an issue of liability, get the FAA out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My guess the liability is why CNN themselves are not flying the drones. Sounds like they subcontracted that part out. Drone nosedives into a ground, CNN can walk away from the issue while the subcontractor gets sued out of oblivion. CNN finds new subcontractor.

  16. Re:Trump has lost power now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ummm, no sweetie. The "FAKE N00Z!!!" meme was conceived by democrats as a way to get rid of the Breitbart.coms of the world by conflating them with sites that literally made shit up.

    The fact that Trump was so successful in hijacking the term is due purely to its staggering hypocrisy, not to mention that it was the most laughably stupid and transparent attempt at propaganda since "Freedom Fries".

  17. Sounds safe-Let me grab my Helmet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will CNN report if one of their drones crashed in a crowd?

    1. Re:Sounds safe-Let me grab my Helmet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did they report on THIS story?

      http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration
      http://www.dailywire.com/news/22398/report-robert-mueller-was-fbi-director-when-agency-ryan-saavedra#

      So no, probably not.

  18. CNN going to get Oâ(TM)Keefed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Watch James Oâ(TM)Keefe get his own drones and do a smashing expose where he gets CNNâ(TM)s drones to admit their fabrications on camera.

  19. Re:yeah I bet..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    flying directly over crowds 500ft is a dumb way to lose your pilot's license.

  20. Re:Trump has lost power now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, no nazi faggot.

  21. Re:quite small and light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vantage Robotics UAV is a product, not a service... You need to pay attention to the article.

  22. Trump Brought This On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now whenever Trump complains baselessly at his "rallies" that CNN doesn't dare show the size of the crowd (the always do, actually) we can get a drone-lens view of his orangeness from entirely new and revealing angles. Weeeeee!

  23. Can I fly too???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    woooohoooo I get to play with my flying toys without the stupid "drone" fear. Oh yea, im not CNN and didnt "dontate" alot of money to someones campaign, so nope, they will still come after me for flying my toys away from people

  24. What are they looking for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Russians who colluded with Trump, no doubt.

  25. Re: Trump has lost power now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh huh. I've always been curious what it's like to be a brainwashed imbecile ready to believe anything without evidence, simply because some random person with an agenda said so.

    Could you explain why Trump is a sexual predator? Who did he victimize? Specifically... Name them.

  26. Re:Trump has lost power now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's just another example of the swamp. Remnants of the Obama and Clinton and Bush administrations are still in place and their loyalties are too.

  27. LAW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't care what the FAA or CNN claim. The law must apply to everybody or it's not a law at all. If there is no true law restricting drone flight, then anybody can do that. But if there is a law but CNN somehow got a waiver, then the law applies to nobody and anybody can do it.

    No exception.

  28. Re:Trump has lost power now by david_thornley · · Score: 1

    You guys need to check the news every six months or so. Trump won the election. The campaign is over. That means that Clinton is mostly politically irrelevant now. What you guys need to do now is show how what Trump's doing is productive or meets normal standards for human decency or something, because he actually won and is the President.

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  29. fuck the FAA by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    I don't want a bunch of fucking drones over my head.

  30. Re: Trump has lost power now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He RAPED his ex-wife you retard dumbfuck

    Eat a dick, get an education

  31. Re: Trump has lost power now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Evidence?

  32. Re:yeah I bet..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Helicopters get a free pass, if operation isn't explicitly hazardous.