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NASA Astronaut Dick Gordon, Pilot of Gemini and Apollo 12, Dies At 88 (astronautscholarship.org)

sconeu writes: Dick Gordon, pilot of Gemini 11 and command module pilot of Apollo 12, has died at the age of 88. Gordon was also slated to command the cancelled Apollo 18 mission. "Dick Gordon is an American hero, and a true renaissance man by any measure. He was an American naval officer and aviator, chemist, test pilot, NASA astronaut, professional football executive, oil and gas executive and generous contributor to worthy causes," said Curt Brown, board chairman of the Orlando-based Astronaut Scholarship Foundation and an astronaut and veteran of six space flights. "He was in a category all his own." The Astronaut Scholarship Foundation has a touching write-up that details Gordon's childhood and career successes. You can read the full article here.

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  1. Oblig. xkcd by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    https://xkcd.com/893/

    Sadly, he's right. That number will likely come down to zero within our lifetime.

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    1. Re:Oblig. xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the number of autonomous robots will go from zero to thousands in our lifetime.

      IMHO, manned missions will be replaced by autonomous, or semi-autonomous robot missions, and that is a GOOD thing because we don't care about bringing them back/they can be tailored for each mission/they don't die on the way/they don't need oxygen and food/lots and lots of gains. Bragging rights are no substitute for those gains, manned missions have had their day.

      Goodbye Mr Gordon, thank you for your contribution to progress, the robots can take it from here. (salutes)

    2. Re:Oblig. xkcd by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      Wait a minute, did he ever set foot on the moon?

    3. Re:Oblig. xkcd by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The next person to set foot on another world will be either Chinese or an employee of SpaceX.

      I think Musk's company has a good chance of getting there first. The Chinese are taking it slow and steady, while Musk is willing to take more risks.

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    4. Re:Oblig. xkcd by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not about bragging rights. It's more about what the title-tag of the image says: "The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space--each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision."

      Eventually, we will have to leave this planet if we are to survive as a species. Now, you may argue that this day is far in the future, and I can only hope that you'd be right, but at some point we have to take that first step. And let's be honest here, considering the amount of steps it's going to take, we might as well start today.

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    5. Re:Oblig. xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And let's be honest here, considering the amount of steps it's going to take, we might as well start today.

      Shit, it's late here, can't I wait until the morning

    6. Re:Oblig. xkcd by cwarrior · · Score: 2

      He did not. He was the Command Module pilot and stayed in lunar orbit while he crew mates landed. He was going to get a chance to walk on the moon on one of the Apollo missions that was later scrapped.

    7. Re:Oblig. xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      "The next person to set foot on another world will be either Chinese or an employee of SpaceX."

      So what? Do you also get wistful about the nationality of the next person to go to the bottom of the ocean? Why not?

      Why do so many people have such an emotional investment in space? It's a fucking dead vacuum with a few dead rocks in it. It's not like on TV. It's not like the movies. Grow up!

      "I think Musk's company has a good chance of getting there first. The Chinese are taking it slow and steady, while Musk is willing to take more risks."

      ...so that they can discover what the USA already knew for half a century? Space is dead and there's very little value in it?

    8. Re:Oblig. xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait a minute, did he ever set foot on the moon?

      I believe he once kicked Neil Armstrong in the ass.

    9. Re: Oblig. xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No.

    10. Re: Oblig. xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Most of us are hard wired to explore. In person. Stay in your hidey hole and play with your robots

    11. Re:Oblig. xkcd by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Would you feel better if I had said "if we want to preserve life as we know it" instead?

      Then again, considering what we do to this planet while we obviously have no way of getting off it in any sensible way, we don't really give a shit whether we survive another century, how could I expect such a species to care about surviving the Sun going red giant in a few billion years?

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    12. Re:Oblig. xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Would you feel better if I had said "if we want to preserve life as we know it" instead?"

      No, since it's not about feelings at all. It's a rational question. If you want to preserve life as you know it, you should be backing life extension and anti-aging, not sending fragile, soft, short-lived apes into a vacuum.

      Also, what's so special about "life as YOU know it"? I thought you wanted to explore? How about exploring what CRISPR will do to us?

      " care about surviving the Sun going red giant in a few billion years?"

      Oh god just go slash your wrists you emo space Goth. That's precisely what it's about. If you didn't cover your house in titanium shingles to protect from the Death Asteroid, how can you expect others to care about something even more remote?

    13. Re:Oblig. xkcd by camperdave · · Score: 1

      "The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space--each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision."

      The rational person tries to adapt himself to the world. The irrational person tries to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the irrational person.

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    14. Re:Oblig. xkcd by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      Goodness, you see a gentleman of this previous generation, so accomplished....what a full life and service to the country, etc.

      Hmm....it ain't gonna be pretty in about 30+ years....nothing of that fashion written as the famous people of today day.

      Snoop Dog - Dead today at age 88, smoked a lot of dope, drank Gin and Juice.

      Sad.....

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    15. Re:Oblig. xkcd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      We are not going to survive as a species.

      Even if humans manage to colonize other worlds (unlikely), on the timelines under consideration, speciation would be inevitable.Think of all the problems that we have with conflict on earth, then scale that up to a solar system filled with technologically advanced cultures that don't even recognize each other as the same species. If one of those cultures did manage to escape to the star, it would be as alien to us as something that evolved on another world.

    16. Re:Oblig. xkcd by hey! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've always found this line of reasoning unconvincing. It's basically a consequentialist argument, but the connection between the desired outcome and the desired course of action is tenuous as best.

      To see why, let's imagine you are King Priam of ancient Troy. One of your advisers tells you that in several billion years the Earth will become inhabitable and that the Trojan culture will not survive unless it develops a way to live in the heavens. Meanwhile news of a Greek invasion fleet assembling in Aulis on the Euripus Straight...

      The point is that the eventual certainty of extinction has to be weighed against scenarios of more imminent extinction; scenarios you're in a much better position to do something about. We are so far from having the technical means to survive our planet it makes no sense to make that a priority now. And we're not really in much of a better position to deal with the future uninhabitability of the Earth than the ancient Trojans were.

      There are better arguments of space exploration; one of which is that science and its engineering spinoffs are now essential for human survival in a way that was not true even a hundred years ago. -- you'll notice that the predicted Malthusian population crisis never materialized. And we are nearing a point where we will be able to handle a number of more imminent civilization-ending phenomena, like asteroid impacts and global pandemics.

      But fundamentally science isn't utilitarian; it's an aspect of our cultural evolution that purely as a side effect enables our culture to survive events that would have destroyed our more purely pragmatic predecessors. Things like computers and weather prediction aren't the exclusive product of market forces; they rely on fundamental advances in mathematics and physical science that were undertaken for centuries before they had any practical application.

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    17. Re:Oblig. xkcd by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      IMHO, manned missions will be replaced by autonomous, or semi-autonomous robot missions, and that is a GOOD thing because we don't care about bringing them back/they can be tailored for each mission/they don't die on the way/they don't need oxygen and food/lots and lots of gains. Bragging rights are no substitute for those gains, manned missions have had their day.

      We're still at the point where ten years of Opportunity's work could be replaced by two weeks of a geologist on site, though. Either way, a *lot* of technological progress needs to be made for any future mission to make sense.

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    18. Re:Oblig. xkcd by Sumus+Semper+Una · · Score: 1

      Musk better hope he gets there first. My biggest worry about his ventures is that they seem largely driven by a cult of personality. That causes a lot of problems for SpaceX if he passes away and leaves a less charismatic successor (which seems likely) before realizing substantial gains from the project.

      But hey, as long as humans start exploring the cosmos again I don't really care what they look like or what language they speak. I just want them to keep us informed of what they find out and how things are coming along.

    19. Re:Oblig. xkcd by martinX · · Score: 1

      When that happens, we'll still have Moon Unit.

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    20. Re: Oblig. xkcd by CustomBuild · · Score: 1

      88? Your optimism is strong.

    21. Re:Oblig. xkcd by stud9920 · · Score: 1

      In the long run Malthus is ALWAYS right

    22. Re:Oblig. xkcd by Agripa · · Score: 1

      Eventually, we will have to leave this planet if we are to survive as a species.

      We would have to do more than that whether we leave or not. We would have to stop evolution.

  2. That sucks by rosencreuz · · Score: 1

    They should already find a solution for this. Valuable people keep dying.

  3. UCB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NBkIUFWPlg

  4. SCE to AUX by jfdavis668 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apollo 12 was the launch hit by lightning, and almost aborted. Very professional crew and ground control were able to handle the problem. Good thing there was an SCE to AUX switch. Sorry to hear that one of them has gone.

  5. Incredible achievement even today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One has to commend the incredible achievements these first astronauts made during that time. Very much a drive to go back to the space we as human's seem driven to go to. Sadly today our drive to extend what people like Gordon achieved seems to be only a pipe dream anymore. Our ability to extend beyond the moon isn't anymore a reality with human's then it was back then. We have become content to circle around Earth and lay plans to go back to the moon. Maybe because we still use rockets to get us into space.

  6. ...his wife, Linda, who died September 2017 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Owner of a lonely heart. Retire and die soon. Or that.

  7. Fly high by p51d007 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Another of the heroes of my youth in the 60's is gone. All of the Mercury 7 are gone, now a lot of the Gemini & Apollo astronauts are passing away. What's left? "Sports" players, actors that constantly disrespect our nation.

    1. Re:Fly high by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you ruin your nice rumination about American astronauts by raising divisive McCarthyist drivel over people you don't like? Was Roy Holladay who just died in a plane crash one of those "sports" players who "disrespect our nation"? If you truly love those heroes of your youth, you'd direct your energy toward the politicians who've been scrapping and starving the space program since Nixon, canceling the Apollo mission that would have put Gordon's feet on the moon. It took politicians with guts to funnel all that money into what became Mercury and Gemini, guts to deal with setbacks like scores of test pilots dead, the Apollo 1 disaster, but keep selling the program as essential to the USA. Stop looking for blame in "other people" who supposedly "disrespect our nation", realize if you want America really great again,like in Space, someone's gotta PAY for it, starting with YOU. Not some other guy, YOU. I'd be willing to pay a nickel more per gallon of gas to get us to the moon again... pay a hefty tax on guns and ammunition to get us to Mars... Would you? or would you just call that more wasteful government spending? 'cause the commie Chinese are happily spending on Space, and they will get to the moon, and they will get to Mars, because all they have to do is give the order and their people gotta get to it. The only question is whether the USA is up there too, and the difference will be if US citizens are either willing, or too damn cheap and self-centered, to pay the price it takes to get there, and part of that price is getting along with people who might not agree with you on every damn thing.

    2. Re:Fly high by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Why do you ruin your nice rumination about American astronauts by raising divisive McCarthyist drivel over people you don't like?"

      Probably because he's more than likely just a Russian troll.

    3. Re:Fly high by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe your problem is you keep looking for other humans to respect.

    4. Re:Fly high by Major+Blud · · Score: 1

      It took politicians with guts to funnel all that money

      Oh please. The Cold War is the only reason we ever had a space program.

      " The Cold War is over. You can't simply say “Russia!” to Congress, and they whip out their checkbook and say, “How much?” We have to tell the people why this atom-smasher is going to benefit their lives. "

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      https://todayinsci.com/K/Kaku_...

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    5. Re:Fly high by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh please. The Cold War is the only reason we ever had a space program.

      If you watched The Right Stuff or read the book, you might have gotten this impression. If you actually spent some time reading about the history of NASA, there is far more too it than the Cold War.

      But your ignorance on Slashdot knows no boundaries.

    6. Re:Fly high by Major+Blud · · Score: 1

      I've watched the movie and read the book. I've also watched From The Earth to the moon.

      But it's okay Mr. AC, I'm ignorant in such matters.

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    7. Re:Fly high by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maintaining the round Earth illusion is the reason for the space programs. Same reason the Antarctica Treaty prevents travel below the 60 S parallel.

    8. Re:Fly high by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't simply say “Russia!” to Congress, and they whip out their checkbook and say, “How much?”

      When Trump asks Russia, "How much?", he whips out his own checkbook.

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  9. Sexdolls by sycodon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Space exploration with robots is kind of like fucking a Sexdoll, I expect.

    The results are the same, but the experience leaves something to be desired.

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    1. Re:Sexdolls by mshaslam · · Score: 2

      And less chance of bringing back some weird disease.

    2. Re:Sexdolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Space exploration with robots is kind of like fucking a Sexdoll

      It keeps getting better with new technology.

      The cost is lower for the same outcome.

      The robots can be replaced without moral complications.

      The only downside is irrational social stigma.

    3. Re:Sexdolls by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      It keeps getting better with new technology.

      That works for both, actually.

      The cost is lower for the same outcome.

      That is debatable, though. The best you can say is that a manned mission has a very high threshold before something interesting happens, but once crossed, a lot more interesting stuff happens. The ordering of the ratios of interesting stuff per money is therefore rather nebulous. It could be better for your robot, or it could be worse.

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  10. Re:Incredible deceive-ment even today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fakin' space is tough work. Lots of people are on to them. Too bad for them that they can't fake the eclipses, and they can't fake the Flat Earth.

  11. Re:Don't worry, it's not real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Space is fake. The Earth is flat. You can stop worrying about 'other planets.'

  12. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "a naval officer and aviator, chemist, test pilot, NASA astronaut"

    A great man? And all he made was Captain?

    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes... NASA work doesn't advance one's military career all that much. Hell of a pilot though.

  13. Re:Don't worry, it's not real by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah? And where do Hitler and the Reptiloids live, then, if not inside the hollow earth?

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  14. Re:Don't worry, it's not real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the moon. You should read your Heinlein again.

  15. Re:Don't worry, it's not real by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

    On the moon. You should read your Heinlein again.

    ...or watch Iron Sky. :-)

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  16. Re:Don't worry, it's not real by martinX · · Score: 1

    Loved that movie. A rare Finnish-German-Australian co-production. I knew someone in it, so I watched, and waited. Three seconds he was on-screen for. Acting's a tough gig.

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  17. I knew him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It always amazed me that people could walk past him in public, or sit in a business meeting with him, and (assuming they did not know him) they would never guess that he had orbited the moon.

    Apollo 12 was my favorite crew. Pete died way before his time, now Dick is gone, and only Al remains.

  18. Re:Don't worry, it's not real by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Oh please, I'm trying to get a serious discussion and you come with Sci-Fi writers.

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