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House Panel Advances Bill on Key Surveillance Measure (axios.com)
The House Intelligence Committee approved a bill Friday along party lines that would reauthorize a central surveillance law, the Washington Post reports. From a report: It does change the law -- known as Section 702 -- but doesn't satisfy surveillance reform advocates, including in the tech industry. The law is used to authorize the surveillance of electronic communications by foreign nationals abroad, but advocates worry about the programs picking up communications involving Americans as well.
The government is evil... in all forms.
Is watching smoke signals from the next hill over really 'tapping', though?
But anyway: Indeed. Those who sow the wind, motherfuckers.
"We" did? Where did we say that?
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
All this tells me is the definition, act and collection is now 'more legal' on paper. Some bill with words on it isn't going to make me put blinders on --- there just there to make the general population feel good at the end of the day that it isn't going on at the magnitude or level it is; it's still always happening at a level beyond what Snowdon exposed and then some and, unfortunately, it will continue.
Can't really get all that upset, all of us that use any sort of free service online or any amount of social media anything have been 'the product' in every faction of our lives for years, and can't start raising your pitch forks and chucking your molotov cocktails at the White House fence, if you're not willing to do it in Mountain View, Cupertino and Melno Park as well.
Be more honest and get to the point, right in the title:
All Data Recorded Indefinitely Act
"We" did? Where did we say that?
The House Intelligence Committee is made up of elected Representatives.
We the People effectively said this when we fucking voted.
The difference is that Warren isn't a traitor.
https://www.reuters.com/articl...
You are welcome on my lawn.
We're not stealing cable television, we're just down-converting microwave signals to UHF/VHF.
Dude, I don't know, but if Metalica ever performed a concert using smoke signals, you can bet a US court would call us watching them without paying as stealing. So tapping isn't really that much of a stretch is it?
"Obama" didn't wiretap anybody, you're a moron.
This. Democrat or Republican rule, it's six of one, half dozen of the other. No real difference except agenda. They all want the same control. We, the people, cede control to government in the name of "security", and look what this has wrought. Since 9-11, the Internet is a different animal, travel is untenable, everyone is up in your grill. I'm surprised there is not yet a national ID card.
For years people decried "we're heading for socialism!". I told them, no, not even--we're headed for facism. The recent election has merely introduced the next level of this progression. The unholy alliance between big government and corporations is only placing the wedge between them and us citizens. A man cannot even head down to the corner store and buy something without you bank, carrier, apps, etc. know where you are, what you bought, whom you may have met. This is only going to grow more pronounced because the average person is simply apathetic. They've got their entertainment, their food, their pleasures, and their faces solidly within the glow of their electronic leash handsets. Bread and circuses. We're doomed...
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I am continuing to push several of my CONgress critters to change some of our bills. In particular, I would like it to be that anything that is CLEAR TEXT, either saved on a system or sent over the net, is fair game for American intelligence. The reason is that it is similar to sending a postcard. It is also the fact that China and Russia also have easy access to this so should ours. /.
Then anything that is ENCRYPTED means that there is an ACTIVE attempt to block others from seeing the data. As such, we then require a warrant for our intel world to see the data (basically decrypt it).
If we pass this, it will no doubt anger a number of ppl here because it gave America's intel world the same carte blanche that the rest of the world have. This will no doubt cause MS, Google, Yahoo, etc to push through encryption on nearly everything.
At the same time with this bill, I am pushing for USPO to offer up personal digital keys that are FULLY VETTED (i.e. like passport, pix and fingerprint) and they would then have a distributed network of the key-servers. And when it is trivial for somebody to obtain a single digital-key, then e-mail, blogs, etc will become not just secured, but will also be less spam, and BS that we see even in in
With this approach, it will really push for the world to encrypt our data.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Actually, yeah, he did you idiot. Sure, not directly. But as chief executive he was ultimately responsible for what people who report to him do.
Sure, no chief executive knows everything. And usually "responsibility" means dealing with misbehaviors rather than personally being blamed for them. However, this is a big deal, and it's hard to believe Obama was unaware. It would be negligent of him not to know of the massive increase in spying on his watch, on top of the massive amount under the previous administration.
Neither is Trump. You're just butt hurt because the class clown outsmarted the "most qualified candidate ever".
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
The same time we said that all criticism of Obama was racist, duh!
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
They in fact protect no one.
Your President can kill at will by drone strike and you claim to be a good people.
SHAME.
Obama never tapped Trump. You far righ wing nuts really have to get over all of the BS that you read.
The intel world was doing their jobs and tapping into Russia, CHina, North Korea, etc. The fact that Trump's ppl contacted Russia and China to cut deals ahead of time was seen ONLY because Trump's ppl contacted ppl that were under ACTIVE surveillance. And the fact that Trump Jr, and SiL, BOTH requested from the Russians that they provide a different SECURED path for communications, says they KNOW that they were committing treason by cutting deals.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
OH GOD IT BURNS!
Seriously, though... Please say "wiretapping" and not just "tapping" because that means something different.
You're being retarded. Obama didn't order it whether or not he even knew about it at that time, and you've got nothing to the contrary to show for it. Further, the surveillance has hit pay dirt. There IS a there there, and it's Moscow. So all the cries of witch hunt are going to go up in flames as we roast this suckling traitor pig and his entire family and 3/4 of the administration. Mueller Aint Going Away - and Obama happily keeps his hands squeaky clean of you cunts as you immolate.
Remember this could have been stopped this with allowing someone other than the Shillary Clinton (lock her up) to run. Instead they BROKE the law and COLLUDED against the socialist Bernie Sanders to undermine his popalarity. Remember democrat party also brought to power Mike Flynn who has now been charged with lying to FBI. Shillary Clinton is the next dominow to fall in that crazy conspirasy theory. I am American and even I can see that Democrat party is to blame. This is why I donate regular to Trump 2020 and NRA. Protect our American freedom, always vote the Republican side and end sanctions against mother Russia.
Obama's intelligence agencies tapped Russians. It just so happens that everyone around Trump was talking to the Russians. There is a huge difference that your hands are too small to see.
Technically, neither will Trump. Not that it matters.
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Sorry, my bad.
'Obama tapping Trump' is equally nightmare fuel.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Funny that Hillary's team was also constantly talking to the Ruskys, but nobody's phone was tapped.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
what proof do you have that Hillary's team was talking to the Russian? Because if so, that is also treason and those ppl will also be prosecuted for Logan act at a minimum.
Or, are you just doing the normal GOP thing and lying through your teeth?
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Well, it's not looking good for him at the moment.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/0...
You are welcome on my lawn.
"The House Intelligence Committee is made up of elected Representatives."
Unfortunately intelligence is not a prerequisite to be a member.
Of course, that never happened, so as usual you're full of shit.
Law enforcement may have been wire tapping Trump because he's a crook and a lying douchebag, but they didn't do it because Obama said to.
But, hey, like your idiot hero Trump ... don't let actual fucking facts get in the way of a good story.
The difference is Warren isn't communicating with Russian spies, unlike the Trump campaign.
Sorry, my bad.
'Obama tapping Trump' is equally nightmare fuel.
But not surprising considering Trumps infatuation with men of power like Roy Cohn.
They don't even deny it. Just claim it was a law firm they paid six million to do it for them, so 'no foul'. First we need to shoot all the lawyers...
We'll see how it turns out once the law firm is shown to have been acting criminally, hence no privilege.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
For years people decried "we're heading for socialism!". I told them, no, not even--we're headed for facism.
Sorry to pop your bubble, but Fascism is a form of Socialism. Literally.
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What matters is that Republicans are now the party of KNOWN TRAITORS when they support this administration. And you're their dancing queen.
Seems the U.S. funded intel agencies are gonna do whatever the fuck they want to anyway. This bill, whether repealed or sustained, is moot in reality.
We need to bring the morals of these agencies into check if we want real change. Hopefully Snowden, Klein & others have done this to an extent. It sucks that these types of acts are what makes the most difference.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
In case anyone wants to talk about the actual bill, as opposed to just cramming their nose up some politician's ass, here's what the bill changed.
First, a quick review of what sectionnot702 is. Section 702 relates to eavesdropping on foreign communications. Programs under 702 are not to be used to target Americans. When one party to a conversation is an American, their identity is to be masked, referring to them as "person A", "person B", etc. So the record would show a conversation between Putin, Ahmadinejad, and Person A.
With that background, this bill makes the following two changes:
The committeeâ(TM)s bill would require government agencies to get a court order before viewing the content of communications to or from Americans in the National Security Agencyâ(TM)s database of information collected under the authority, known as Section 702, in criminal cases.
Rules relating to "unmasking" the identity of US citizens would be tightened. Certain officials have authority to unmask based on certain criteria. The bill would reduce the number of people who can authorize unmasking and tighten the conditions under which unmasking is allowed.
In general, the idea is to further the idea that section 702 is a national security tool tool to be used for international national security purposes, not for domestic criminal prosecutions, or worse, political purposes against US citizens not accused of any crime.
Or that criticizing trump makes you a Russian shill.
Didn't you get the memo? All news except Faux news is fake news comrade. Dump it down the memorial hold. Do try to keep up. May I interest you in some saccharine tablets?
And Obama's marriage to a heshe.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Capitalism was and still to a lesser degree rests upon socialist arguments. To sell stuff to the masses, everything is sold with socialist arguments. To give up so that the many benefit is the essence of socialism. It's a broad concept applied in many ways.
Capitalism argues it is the best system because it benefits the most people in the end. Twisted reasoning in a way but not illogical; it's justification for the inequality and many flaws is socialism. Keeping competition fair by regulation is part of it too and that is considered socialist... Today we've gone to extremes losing touch with purpose where Adam Smith would be attacked as too "left." It's become all dogma and no philosophy, like many religious people...
Communism and Fascism were both extremely authoritarian and needed to differentiate themselves. Go see PoliticalCompass.org. I blame the cold war propaganda for trying to destroy the word socialism; but I also think the situation was being exploited by authoritarians to undermine freedom... That propaganda still continues today. You can't have freedom without socialism. think. Dominance by the strongest oppresses the weak... and it's always a minority who is on top. To have the powerful minority give up power for the empowerment of the many is socialism. It's all in the implementation details and there is a great deal of propaganda involved in clouding all those issues.
Herding humans always seems to work best in a binary game of our tribe vs everybody else. It seems we always gravitate to simple reasoning that places things into 2 groups: us vs the rest. We can't get past our tribal territorial evolution.
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what law firm is saying that they contacted the Russian for hillary to discuss acts of treason?
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
He played to racists and is about to go to prison for treason/collusion. You're so smart, lol, moronic traitors.
Neither is Trump.
Sure he is. He pardoned someone specifically convicted of violating the constitution.
That pretty much makes him a traitor, since he promised to defend the constitution.
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This. Democrat or Republican rule, it's six of one, half dozen of the other. No real difference except agenda. They all want the same control.
Oh yeah, the Republican candidate (Trump) and Democratic candidate (Hillary Clinton) were exactly the same. Hillary would have enacted the exact same policies as what Trump is trying to do. I'm sure she and her party would repealed net neutrality, cut the ACA, and increase the deficient by US$ 1T to fund tax cuts for billionaires.
Yup, 100% equivalence. /s
'Obama tapping Trump' is equally nightmare fuel.
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WTF? Obama's people sent a foreign agent to Russia to meet with senior Russian government officials and get false Intel on Trump. This dossier was used to justify a warrant for surveillance on Trump Tower. This happened..
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
They're predictably saying: 'privilege, privilege, privilege.' Which will last until the shysters are shown to have been acting criminally themselves. Then they will throw whoever they have to under the bus.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Coincidently: All non-incumbent presidential candidates in future will be 'crooks and lying douchebags' under law enforcement investigation.
That is unless someone goes to prison for wire tapping Trump.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
First I've heard of this one. Link please? Google didn't turn anything up. I tried searching for this and found nothing.