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Windows 10 Bundled a Password Manager with a Security Flaw (bleepingcomputer.com)

An anonymous reader writes: A Google security researcher has found and helped patch a severe vulnerability in Keeper, a password manager application that Microsoft has been bundling with some Windows 10 distributions this year... "This is a complete compromise of Keeper security, allowing any website to steal any password," Tavis Ormandy, the Google security researcher said, pointing out that the password manager was still vulnerable to a same vulnerability he reported in August 2016, which had apparently been reintroduced in the code.

Based on user reports, Microsoft appears to have been bundling Keeper as part of Windows 10 Pro distributions since this past summer.

The article reports that Keeper issued a fix -- browser extension version 11.4 -- within less than 24 hours.

48 comments

  1. A Password Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bundled a Windows operating system with numerous security flaws.

  2. Branding by Memnos · · Score: 2

    So.. rename it "Giver"?

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    1. Re:Branding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rename it "Finders keepers loser weepers".

  3. Flaw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

    Try: "Feature".

    There is no way this was not by design. Twice.

  4. Re:List vulnerabilities and problems in Windows 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #fakenews

  5. Are some of these intentional? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems to me that a lot of these types of breaches may be intentional due to pressure from agencies who want the ability to spy on users and don't care what the repercussions are. Patch published breaches and create another one when things quiet down.

    1. Re:Are some of these intentional? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2

      Seems to me that a lot of these types of breaches may be intentional due to pressure from agencies who want the ability to spy on users and don't care what the repercussions are. Patch published breaches and create another one when things quiet down.

      Hanlon's razor applies here: never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. In the case of Microsoft, there's plenty of stupidity to go around: when it comes to security and bugginess, they couldn't code their way out of wet paperbag - and haven't been able to in 42 years.

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    2. Re:Are some of these intentional? by mikael · · Score: 1

      How come coding errors always reduce security by accident, rather than increase security. Configuration scripts will allow password-free logins by mistake.

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    3. Re:Are some of these intentional? by Sarten-X · · Score: 1

      Security is hard task with a fragile result. There's a quote that I can't precisely recall, something along the lines of "Security is like math, except it matters which kind of pen you use to write it". It's vastly easier to leak information accidentally, than to accidentally keep everything secret that should be.

      On the other side of the coin, let's suppose someone did accidentally do things right. Even if they don't know how they did it, that's not an accident. That's just doing things right, and not the sort of thing anyone notices or reports on, until that person stops accidentally succeeding... Then, of course, the problem isn't reported as "we have no idea how he didn't screw up earlier", but rather as "he made one mistake after many successes."

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  6. MS monetizing its user base? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just collecting all user info is not enough money making power?
    Sell the control of all user passwords (and who knows what else) in the world to some third party company?
    And if public gets angered that company would be the scapegoat? Nice :-)

  7. Flaw? You mean... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

    Flaw? You mean "backdoor", created at the behest of one or more intelligence agencies?

  8. AI is right around the corder... by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    ....but we still can't write small password keeper programs correctly yet. But somehow AI is going to happen.

    1. Re:AI is right around the corder... by HatofPig · · Score: 1

      Can't wait until the passwords to the A.I.s get leaked to anonymous image boards. That'll be a fun Dick Clark's hologram New Years.

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  9. Re:Windows is a toy. Face it already. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean the same way that Lennart Poettering treats the entire Linux community?

  10. Somebody's gotta say it.. by LVSlushdat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Windows 10 IS IN ITSELF a MAJOR security flaw... I think its too precious to call out one tiny piece of Windows 10 and complain about its security flaw.... Of course I will be ruthlessly downmodded by the Windows astroturfing squad... Do your worst, as MOST of us with half a clue know I'm right...

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    1. Re:Somebody's gotta say it.. by mikael · · Score: 1

      The networking components of Windows 10 are security flaws; auto-update, remote administration enabled by default, Samba, web-browsers auto-connecting to Facebook, Google, Amazon Web Services, Yahoo etc...

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    2. Re:Somebody's gotta say it.. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      PRISM 2.0 has to keep doing what PRISM did.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  11. Security flaw... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I bet that was a "feature", too...

  12. The perfect manager to attack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, seriously, a 'Password Manager' of any type just has a big fat f_cking bullseye painted on it.

    Shame on anyone for using any electronic/software based one.

    1. Re:The perfect manager to attack by Sarten-X · · Score: 1

      A password manager alone does not increase your security. Rather, it enables the use of much stronger passwords and enables having unique passwords for each resource, while also allowing the password list to be securely backed up for disaster recovery. With those combined efforts, the attack surface for an individual is reduced tremendously.

      The days of individual attacks are long gone. Unless you're a high-profile political dissident, nobody cares about your personal computer. Rather, you're just one of a half-million account credentials stolen from a website you've long since forgot about, and your password happened to be one of the early ones to have its hash broken. You just happen to be the guy who used that same password on your email account, and you just happen to be the guy whose bank account is tied to their email, and has enough personal identity details in old messages to make an attack successful.

      Attacks today aren't looking for bullseyes. They're shooting buckshot, and they'll score the first thing they hit.

      Shame on anyone for reusing a password, or having one less than 12 characters.

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    2. Re:The perfect manager to attack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A password manager is a ripe target for attack, especially with the likes of synaptics and lenovo accidentally leaving active keyloggers in their software. Kaspersky (and Microsoft!) uploading files and documents for 'virus' analysis

      You have to be absolutely f*cking stupid to use one on any computer connected to the internet.

  13. Re:Flaw? You mean... by PseudoThink · · Score: 1

    Obviously a feature: https://imgur.com/gallery/bmQW...

  14. LOL, Shocking! by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    See subject line.

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  15. I personally use PorterPass by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    It's from Porter Industries, with fancy new headquarters in the basement of Lubyanka Square, Moscow.

    PorterPass : At least you know the NSA won't be spying on your passwords!

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  16. Re:Cut Microsoft some slack by Sarten-X · · Score: 1

    The irony is strong in this one.

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  17. I like this song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'cause I like humping your mommy
    and getting caught by your dad.
    If you're not into poota
    and you have half a nad.
    If you like humping butts at midnight
    in the smooth anal gape
    Then i'm the one that you searched for
    come to me and assrape!

    -Helen Gurley Brown

  18. Re:Somebody's gotta slay it.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cause it aint
    LINEUCKS
    or
    OHHH ESSS EX

     
    amirite?

  19. Who is vulnerable? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    "I've heard of Keeper, I remember filing a bug a while ago about how they were injecting privileged UI into pages," said Tavis Ormandy, the Google security researcher who discovered the recent vulnerability.

    Looks like, keeper is installed, but the user needs to somehow "login" to keeper for this flaw to trigger. Then it injects some privileged UI into pages, it says. A malicious site can use click jack to steam password.

    Looks like, the victim should login to keeper, and then visit a malicious website. Not clear whether it is adding this privileged UI only into Edge/Internet Explorer or if it is injecting it into Chrome and Firefox as well.

    If Chrome/Firefox users are not affected, this gives one more reason to stay away from IE/Edge.

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  20. Re:Major Linux DIstros Bundled systemd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait, so you would rather have spyware, advertising, forced bugdates, forced reboots and no control over your computer rather than use a simple bootstrap that you don't like?

    Also, you're operating under a very apparent mentality of lock-down and lock-in imposed by Microsoft and that you aren't even consciously aware of. It's Linux. You can change it.

  21. Trusting Microsoft is your first mistake by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 2

    Trusting Microsoft was your first mistake. I don't trust those idiots to do anything. I wait years between upgrading Windows OS (no choice but to use MS due to critical software). I was on XP for years, finally upgraded to 7. I have no intention of going to Windows 10 until security updates for Windows 7 expire. I worry that with the update treadmill of Windows 10, it may turn out to be a perpetual bug cluster F*** since they can always just push out a new patch to fix what they broke in the last one.

    The most secure way to store your passwords is on a piece of paper next to your computer. For added security, abbreviate the parts of the password with a reminder rather than the actual part, so that only you can decode the reminder and create the actual password. The odds of someone breaking into your house, being interested in your password list and further figuring out you password hints to reconstruct your actual password are so minuscule as to be essentially zero. The odds of some organization that you use being hacked and compromising your information or login and password are far more likely.

    Until we start taking hacking more seriously: criminal charges for negligent security at corporations (i.e. not using best practices) and heavy corporate fines on a per victim level, and life sentences with no parole, etc. for hackers and black bagging non-extradition offenders (or just blocking/blacklisting non-extradition/bad actor countries), the hacking epidemic will continue to grow.

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  22. Re:Flaw? You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have never trusted, and will never trust, password managers.

    I applied the power of my brain to the task of inventing my own system for managing the large number of passwords that are now a part of ordinary life. And I am not an idiot, so I didn't do stupid things like re-use the same password, keep them all stored in a .txt document, etc.

    Mine is a good system. To whoever is reading this: yours can be too. Unless you are an idiot, of course, in which case it is my sincere hope that your inability to protect yourself online has such a severe impact on your social life that it winds up limiting your opportunities to breed.

  23. Re:Flaw? You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gotta love that slashdot censorship system. Completely destroys the continuity of any discussion.

    https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11492651&cid=55755393

    And the salt in the wounds:

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    It does nothing to deter the real spammers, so why bother? (This is a rhetorical question, I know that the censorship system has nothing to do with spammers and trolls and everything to do with controlling discussion without appearing to do so.)

    (P.S. I will not register so that I can be banned by other users, despite what whiplash says, this is how slashdot works, since the beginning)

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    1. Re: My Hosts File Engine can prevent this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      O hai fake apk.

    2. Re: My Hosts File Engine can prevent this by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Poor A/C, self medicating, again; we see.

  25. Re: List vulnerabilities and problems in Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even with all those false statements, he is still one of the most honest men in Washington. Let's not even get started on news stations.

  26. Re:Flaw? You mean... by xtronics · · Score: 1

    If it is still UN-patched one has to assume it is by design..

  27. Re: Flaw? You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Censorship"

    Hmmmmmmm.

  28. Password Explorer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft's Password Explorer (TM)

    Allows everyone on the Internet to explore your passwords.

  29. Re:Flaw? You mean... by ctilsie242 · · Score: 1

    Sometimes you can make a password management system that takes your single secret password (or a keyfile), adds the host name and the username, tosses it through a SHA-512 HMAC, then uses the first n characters, n being the max the site allows. The nice thing about this method is that the password can't be figured out even if an attacker gets your site passwords.

    My ideal password manager would be one that synced to a cloud provider, but had each device have its own private key, and a record so it can unlock and decrypt the master database key. A symmetric key would also be present for recovery reasons. This way, even if the cloud provider were hacked, there would be the database, and a bunch of entries encrypted to a number of public keys, forcing the attacker to either try to factor one of the keys, or go against the entire AES-256 keyspace [1]. Since Windows, Linux, macOS, Android, and iOS all have OS level protection mechanisms for keys, one can use those for device protection.

    [1]: Or if one wants to up security a notch, cascade AES, SERPENT, and some other Russian/Chinese standard algorithms. This isn't to brag about having 1024 bits of key space, but in case one of the main algorithms has a significant weakness, the data is still protected. This is why VeraCrypt offers a two and three algorithm cascade.

  30. Re:List vulnerabilities and problems in Windows 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #realnews