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Leaving the House Linked To Longevity in Older Adults (yahoo.com)

Researchers in Israel have found that leaving the house regularly can "contribute to a longer life" for elderly people. From a report: For study participants in their 70s, 80s and 90s, the frequency with which they left the house predicted how likely they were to make it to the next age milestone, researchers report in Journal of the American Geriatrics Society. "The simple act of getting out of the house every day propels people into engagement with the world," said lead author Dr. Jeremy Jacobs of Hadassah-Hebrew University Medical Center in Jerusalem in a phone interview. "We saw similar benefits that you'd expect from treating blood pressure or cholesterol with medicine," Jacobs said. "Social factors are important in the process of aging." Jacobs and colleagues analyzed data on 3,375 adults at ages 70, 78, 85 and 90 who were participating in the Jerusalem Longitudinal Study.

54 comments

  1. healthy by bugs2squash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    simply being healthy enough to leave the house means you are not as sick

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    1. Re:healthy by HornWumpus · · Score: 0

      Done in one. Admins: You can lock this article now.

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    2. Re:healthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, kind of obvious isn't it. The story could easily be 'Vigorous Sex in Multiple Athletic Positions Linked to Longevity in Older Adults.' Or, 'Constant Masturbation Linked to Increased Linux Skills.'

    3. Re:healthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's probably core to the observation, but it's a self-preserving cycle.

      Mild exercise and fresh air (where applicable) are useful factors in maintaining reasonable health. Being healthy enough to go for long walks often leads to long walks, which help keep the body healthy enough for long walks.

      Just have the sense to know your limits. Push them, but don't try to pretend they don't exist.

    4. Re:healthy by Joce640k · · Score: 0

      Yep. It's a classic case of carts and horses.

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    5. Re:healthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Constant Masturbation linked carpal tunnel syndrome."
      "Most Linux users have carpal tunnel syndrome."

      FTFY

    6. Re:healthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the TFA:
      "At all ages, people who left home less frequently tended to be male, less educated and to have higher rates of loneliness, financial difficulties, poor health, fatigue, poor sleep, less physical activity, bladder and bowel problems, history of falling in the last year, fear of falling, visual and hearing impairments, chronic pain and frailty."

      Its good to know getting out of the house helps prevent being less educated, being a man, and avoids financial difficulties.

    7. Re:healthy by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Constant Masturbation linked carpal tunnel syndrome."

      You're holding it wrong.

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    8. Re:healthy by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I leave the house every day. I walk to the liquor store on the corner for pork rinds, flavored vodka, cigarettes and scratch-off tickets. I guess this study means I'll live forever.

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    9. Re:healthy by SandorZoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The very first sentence of the article says they tried to adjust for health (which is not a surprise):

      For older people, getting out of the house regularly may contribute to a longer life - and the effect is independent of medical problems or mobility issues, according to new research from Israel.

      The article is available for money from here, but the abstract says they adjusted for:

      * social (sex, marital status, financial status, loneliness)
      * functional (sex, self-rated health, fatigue, depression, physical activity, activity of daily living difficulty)
      * medical (sex, chronic pain, visual impairment, hearing impairment, diabetes mellitus, hypertension, ischemic heart disease, chronic kidney disease)

    10. Re:healthy by HornWumpus · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Sociologists...all I should have to say.

      They likely tried to adjust, towards their preselected conclusion, but being innumerate...

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    11. Re:healthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, they easily identified that correlation is not causation and came up with literally a dozen reasons why leaving the house often is a predictor of future good health ... and yet they still claim that future health is because of leaving the house.

      Because with a list that long they couldn't possibly have missed one thing off.

      But the whole thing is bullshit if they failed to adjust for anything at all. Unknown unknowns and all that.

    12. Re:healthy by mentil · · Score: 1

      So if they're ruling out depression and level of physical activity, then what's the proposed mechanism of action? I have a hard time believing there are things unrelated to what they controlled for that are the cause. E.g. not every geriatric is diagnosed with ischemic heart disease before they suffer cardiac arrest. Then there's the case of the bedridden, who can have blood flow problems.

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    13. Re:healthy by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I would buy pork rind flavored vodka...

    14. Re:healthy by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Sad to say, the closest I can find is bacon.

      But infused vodka is easy...

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    15. Re:healthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The researchers put Descartes before the hoarse.

    16. Re:healthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's not. You clearly haven't read the actual article.

    17. Re:healthy by mikael · · Score: 2

      The Japanese noticed this too. If someone became too ill/weak to walk around and could only sit in a chair, everything else deteriorated (bones, vascular system, weight). Just getting up out of a chair and walking around the house doing housework was better than sitting. Going outside into the garden was even better, and walking around the village and talking to people even better still.

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    18. Re:healthy by mikael · · Score: 1

      They give the people who are living on their own little robots to give them advice to encourage them to become more active and keep them company

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    19. Re:healthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In order to go to the doctor, one typically needs to leave the house these days. So my guess is that older people that get regular medical care (leaving the house to get it) and follow their doctors advice live longer. Those we don't feel the need to bother with going to the doctor live shorter. Some might think that the number of doctor's visits couldn't skew the "going outside numbers" sufficiently for this, but seeing how often various grandparents have had to go to the doctor I think it can.

  2. Correlation does not imply causation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have noticed a correlation. But always remember that correlation does not imply causation!

    1. Re:Correlation does not imply causation! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Lemons are yellow.
      My car is yellow.
      My car is a lemon.

      My logic is flawless!

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    2. Re:Correlation does not imply causation! by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 2

      God is love.
      Love is blind
      Stevie Wonder is blind
      Stevie Wonder is God.

      It's the Commutative Property of Theology

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  3. I wear my sunglasses at night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So I can
    So I can
    Watch you weave then breathe your story lines ... oh, msmash, you are deceiving me!

    And what red light?

  4. Re:This is true for non-elderly Linux users, too. by greenwow · · Score: 1

    contributes to health problems.

    systemditus?

    I know it causes my blood pressure to rise when logging messages I need to troubleshoot a problem simply just get swallowed.

  5. Re:Now I get it. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 0

    Why would anybody want to take over tents that nomadic Arabs have wandered away from?

  6. Re: This is true for non-elderly Linux users, too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But but but you need to learn how to use the journal to read your logsszzzzZ. Text logs that everyone can read is so 2000. Needing our software to read your logs is the new beezkneeZ.

  7. A facet of life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is a "what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" facet of life.

    Going outside early in life exposes one to more dangers. But if one survives the first 100 dangers, (from avoiding dark alleys to finding a new home) the body has strength and the mind has experience to recognize and survive the next 1,000 dangers.

  8. Re:This is true for non-elderly Linux users, too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You think Systemd broke itself?

    Small minds think alike.

    Maybe you broke it and blamed Systemd.

    Systemd is not forgiving and shouldn't be.

  9. Yeah, but ... by Quirkz · · Score: 1

    Okay, so I'll leave the house. But do I have to actually talk to anyone while I'm out? The summary points to "social factors." Does sitting by myself at the park not cut it?

  10. Leaving the House by mentil · · Score: 5, Funny

    And this, ladies and gentleman, is why we need term limits for our Representatives. For their own health and safety.

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    1. Re:Leaving the House by tomhath · · Score: 1

      I thought the same thing; here's hoping Nancy Pelosi takes the hint.

    2. Re:Leaving the House by mentil · · Score: 2

      She has to leave the House to, uhh, find out what's in it.

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    3. Re:Leaving the House by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on guys, give up some points. 2 for 2...bravo sir.

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  11. SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make everyone stay at home, all the time! As long as everyone dies by 65 or so, we are in good shape.

    Well besides the SSDI people.

    We're still working on that.

  12. Grandpa ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... just looks so sad sitting on the front steps when we push him out the door.

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  13. But what about leaving the Senate by rossdee · · Score: 1

    Strom Thurmond lived a long time

    1. Re:But what about leaving the Senate by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Strom has the nicest gym I've ever laid eyes on. If you ever get to Columbia, SC, check it out at the Univ. of S.C.

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  14. In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU are turned up to 11!

  15. Are you sure you got the order right? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Researchers in Israel have found that leaving the house regularly can "contribute to a longer life" for elderly people

    Or that being in poor health means you're less inclined to exert yourself.

  16. Probably why Seattleites live so long by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 0

    A lot of older folk here enjoy having a quiet day out, pogoing to the latest EDM and windsurfing with orcas, before a relaxing bike ride across the world's longest floating bridge and a visit to a local brewery, vineyard, or chocolate factory with friends.

    It could be the exercise.

    It could be the socialization.

    It could be knowing our houses are worth more than your estates will ever be worth in your lifetime.

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  17. Social factors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who do old people communicate with when they go out? Pigeons?

  18. Leaving the House, If Only To Say... by crunchygranola · · Score: 1

    Stay off my lawn!

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  19. Cause and Effect? by B.Stolk · · Score: 2

    If you live to an old age, you are less likely to suffer from many illnesses.

    If you have little illness, you are more likely to spend time outside.

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  20. Your Mum's Basement Memes by hai_Priesty · · Score: 1

    I've expected at least 10 people to mention that Mum's Basement Meme, can't believe I'm the first one.

    Sitting for long stretches is not good for health, with or without the effect of socializing:-
    https://science.slashdot.org/story/17/01/19/1149200/sitting-too-much-ages-you-by-8-years

  21. They thought of that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    From the article:

    "The link between leaving the house and longevity, however, remained after the researchers accounted for medical or mobility issues such as chronic pain, vision or hearing impairment, diabetes, hypertension, heart disease and kidney disease."

    We all know that the media likes to ignore the difference between correlation and causation in favour of a good story; we also know that supposedly-scientific studies can be more lax in the same way than we'd like. On this occasion, however, prima facie, that doesn't seem to be the case.

  22. Read the article, guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This isn't an overt confusion of cause and effect. The study allowed for individual health factors, and still found a strong correlation.

  23. Everyone say it with me: Correlation... by zarmanto · · Score: 1

    This sounds an awful lot like your stereotypical "correlation is not causation" finding to me.

  24. Isn't it the other way around? by Elixon · · Score: 1

    Longevity Linked To Leaving the House in Older Adults

    Which means, if you are destined to live longer then you are more likely to leave the house. I mean, it simply will not change a thing if you force your grandma twice a day out of the house... (Contrary the stress levels caused by interrupting favorite soap opera may have even adverse effects... and not only on her health. ;-) )

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  25. The Root Cause by mridion · · Score: 1

    The cause of this correlation phenomena is obvious, at least to me, and affordably testable. BEANS