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Google Play Removed 700,000 Bad Apps In 2017, 70 Percent More Than In 2016 (venturebeat.com)

Today, Google announced that it removed more than 700,000 apps that violated Google Play's policies, or 70 percent more apps than the year before. "Google does not share total Google Play app numbers anymore, so we have to rely on third-party estimates to put this 70 percent figure into perspective," reports VentureBeat. "Statista pegs the total number of apps on Google Play at 2.6 million in December 2016 and 3.5 million in December 2017, a 35 percent growth. How many of those were bad apps, however, is anyone's guess." From the report: All we know is that the number of bad apps removed grew faster than the total number of apps in the store, which makes sense if you take into account the next statistic Google revealed today: 99 percent of apps with abusive content were identified and rejected before anyone could install them in 2017. This was possible, Google says, thanks to its implementation of machine learning models and techniques to detect abusive app content and behaviors such as impersonation, inappropriate content, or malware. The company claims that the odds of getting malware is 10x lower via Google Play than if you install apps from outside sources.

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  1. Company claims by war4peace · · Score: 2

    "The company claims that the odds of getting malware is 10x lower via Google Play than if you install apps from outside sources."
    This means nothing.
    Considering the worst possibility, if outside sources have 100% chance to get malware, then Google Play has 10% chance, which is VERY BAD.
    Even a chance of 1% of getting malware is horrible, considering we are talking about Google's official app channel.

    IMO the chance should be 1 in 100K, meaning there would still be 35 apps in the official store loaded with malware.

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    1. Re:Company claims by sexconker · · Score: 2

      And that's ignoring the fact that most of the malware on the Play Store (spyware, adware, etc.) isn't considered malware in the Android world. It's par for the course to exploit your users and shit on their devices!

    2. Re:Company claims by gfxguy · · Score: 0

      Adware? That's the user's fault, not the app maker. If your paid app has ads, that's an issue between you and the app maker. If your app is free and you're complaining about ads... well... too bad. You knew it had ads before you installed it.

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    3. Re:Company claims by rtb61 · · Score: 0

      I just read the headline and like what the fuck Google, you allowed 700,000 bad apps onto you platform, 70% more than 2016, you are getting fucking worse and what you take pride in it? Shit google you know how many bad apps you should be 'taking off' your platform, fucking zero, you idiots. Google, you fucking idiots, you want to brag about a headline, it's one that says, Google blocked access to 700,000 bad apps, to the Google play store. I even checked the article, yep, Google are taking pride in allowing 700,000 bad apps onto the platform, fuck over Google's customers and then taking them off.

      Google you are meant to be the fuckers in charge, you should fucking check this stiff before fucking selling it, are you getting your customers money back from the bad app and adding something in for allowing that bad app on your store in the first place and you fucking selling it to your customers without properly vetting it. Apple are kind of making you look like total shite now and stupid shite at that.

      700,000 fucking bad aps on the google store, well, I ain't going back there any more. Apparently goggles method for testing apps, see how many customers complain, meh, free quality control (it's in beta so shut up).

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    4. Re:Company claims by johnsie · · Score: 1

      No you dumbass, they removed them before the were published. They get uploaded by the developer, then if they get approved they get published.

    5. Re:Company claims by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you are the "dumbass"! You obviously have no idea how the Play Store works. Google allows all apps and then they go through them after they are already on the Play Store and sometimes reject them if they are bad. This works the opposite of the Apple App Store which Apple verifies and approves each app and each update to an app.

    6. Re:Company claims by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Not according to the article I just read. They went on and Google removed them, based obviously on complaints, yeah, it is a shit way to do it and Apple tries to prevent them getting on by checking them first. Now if it is different, fucking prove it with a link to Google, too fucking easy.

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  2. Yeah great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...maybe they should focus on not getting them in there in the first place. It's amazing what a big fucking unsanitary failure the Google Play Store and the Android ecosystem is.

    1. Re: Yeah great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you like Walled garden?

    2. Re: Yeah great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to have walls around the garden or all the weeds get in. There are various levels of draconian and ways to go about it, but an 'open market' is going to have lots of malware, period. They need to check everything. EVERYTHING.

    3. Re: Yeah great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Walled gardens keep the existing weeds safe from having to compete with other weeds.

  3. 3.5 million apps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excuse my French, but why the fuck are there 3.5 million apps in one app store?

    1. Re:3.5 million apps? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Apps are like the old shareware. They might only do one task but they do it well for the price.
      Why pay for an OS and expensive software when a few apps can provide most of the user support and fun needed.
      Creative people offer apps that people crave. For sport, art, culture, a hobby, fun, as a game.

      In a gov regulated nation a user would have to buy a boxed app from a shop at say $50 or $100 for a computer programme that fully support the local language and was gov approved.
      The internet and software freedom now offers competition to what was once sold as software in a box from a shop.

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  4. Go Apple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is why I buy nothing but Apple products for my home and family. Only Apple takes the time to vet every single app submitted for sale in the App Store.
    Only Apple has a plain privacy statement online.
    Only Apple is in constant heat with the Feds wanting your data (Google and Samsung hand it over like Skittles!)

    If you value your security and privacy, there is only one choice: Apple Inc.

    1. Re:Go Apple! by sexconker · · Score: 1

      This is why I buy nothing but Apple products for my home and family. Only Apple takes the time to vet every single app submitted for sale in the App Store.
      Only Apple has a plain privacy statement online.
      Only Apple is in constant heat with the Feds wanting your data (Google and Samsung hand it over like Skittles!)

      If you value your security and privacy, there is only one choice: Apple Inc.

      I hate Apple, iOS, iPhones, etc.
      You are absolutely correct. If you care about security, Apple is the only choice. No, they're not perfect (especially lately), but Android is a joooooooooooke with regards to security. As far as privacy goes, I wouldn't trust Apple not to spy on me, but it's clear that if they do they're not doing it to anywhere near the extent that Google is.

  5. Permission System by jma05 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am most annoyed by Google's choices in the Permission System. It is defective by design. What did they expect? It is now the choice malware target. Sure, it is an improvement since the earlier versions since we can revoke permissions now. The system is far less leaky on iOS (at least it was, I have not owned an iOS device in a while). I really wish I could set up virtual/shadow address books and file systems. The current system is just playing whack-a-mole. There should be a setting where apps will not have access to any of my private information by default, but still not fail when denied. Or a means to have two profiles, a trusted and a sandbox profile.. and it should be trivial for the user to switch between them, while providing good feedback on which one is active.

    1. Re:Permission System by EETech1 · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Permission System by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Maybe you are using some really badly coded apps, but they should not fail when denied permissions. If they support any recent version of Android they will know that they were denied, and if not they just get an empty address book or blank device ID or "device has no camera" error etc.

      Also, you can have two profiles. Android has supported this for years. Each profile gets its own personal details, address book etc. You can easily create a fake profile with dummy data.

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    3. Re: Permission System by houghi · · Score: 1

      After I install an app, i first turn off access to th Internet. E.g. for some game. 20% will not work, so I remove them. Many will not even show ads or way less anoying ads. Do this before the first launch.
      And no phone home. Turn off both wifi and via procider.

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    4. Re:Permission System by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you are using some really badly coded apps

      This shouldn't be possible, but it is because of how poorly Google has implemented permissions. Stop defending Google when they do dumb shit like this, it lets them off the hook.

  6. A link to malware in the Play Store... by NextApp · · Score: 2

    Here you go:

    https://play.google.com/store/...

    Dozens and dozens of cloned apps that "clean" your device. Fake ratings and reviews.

    They prey on the layman users' false "common sense" of how computers/devices should work. Each contains the same false information about optimizing Android performance, creating a completely inaccurate "common knowledge" amongst many Android users.

    For example, there's no positive benefit in "cleaning apps" to save memory (RAM). The OS will just cache more, which uses even more resources (and thus more of those precious mAhs).

    The apps practice heavy user engagement, recommending more crapware and spraying the user with advertising.

    Google frequently recommends these apps, even though they are incongruent with the Android OS design.

    1. Re:A link to malware in the Play Store... by johnsie · · Score: 1

      Actually a lot of those apps are quite useful, especially on devices with limited resources. For a while I had to use a J3 phone and those apps were very useful in helping me manage my limited storage space.

  7. The real question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The real question is why the heck did google let 700,000 malware apps into their store in the first place? Don't they have enough money to actually vet the apps going into their store? Does google even care a bit about the users? google sure is becoming a shit of a company.

    1. Re:The real question by johnsie · · Score: 1

      Were they already published, or awaiting to be published? Developers need to upload apps before they are published. For all you know the developers may have uploaded their apps and Google removed them before they actually got published. You're spouting off steam and FUD without knowing the facts.

  8. Re: The Invasion of the JUDENoids (Jewgle) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Careful friend, your mental illness is showing - you're leaving the sort of comment which allows them to cast everyone wise to the JQ as a flat Earther.

  9. Re: The Invasion of the JUDENoids (Jewgle) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Impossible to deny accurate histories, videos/quotes he attributed to those that made them as flat earther material for Luciferians to do that to him.

  10. Re: The Invasion of the JUDENoids (Jewgle) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Douche

  11. That's a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really think that's the biggest issue with Android is sketchy apps. Those are probably the really bad ones, how about the ones that are legit but creep you out on how much information the want from you?

  12. Violating terms != Bad App by Excelcia · · Score: 2

    Violating Google's policies does not mean it's a bad app. A favourite recipe app of mine was capable of downloading recipes from multiple sources if you had logins to those sites. That's hardly malware. Neither are computer and game system emulation apps, nor spoof apps to morph your photo to look like other racial stereotypes. Sure some of them are controversial in their own ways, but they are hardly malware. Google doesn't release stats on which terms of their service that apps were removed for, so we can hardly say they are the stalwart paladins of Android by removing 700,000 "bad" apps. I would be unsurprised to see most of that number are simply falling afoul of Google's army of lawyers for rather benign infractions.

  13. It depends when they were removed by johnsie · · Score: 1

    If the apps were removed BEFORE being "Published" then that's ok. The vetting worked. If they were removed AFTER being published then that is a bit more of an issue.

  14. Usefulness by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Here you go:

    https://play.google.com/store/...

    Dozens and dozens of cloned apps that "clean" your device.
    {...}
    They prey on the layman users' false "common sense" of how computers/devices should work. Each contains the same false information about optimizing Android performance, creating a completely inaccurate "common knowledge" amongst many Android users.
    For example, there's no positive benefit in "cleaning apps" to save memory (RAM).

    Optimizing RAM ? Yeah, that's bonkers, you get the same quick effect by simply rebooting the device (it does too stop most of the apps running in the background), and lots of modern OS implementation have methods to kill running background apps when ressources get low.

    But optimizing free space ?
    That's actually useful : at least the Android versions I've seen don't have a nice convenient way to purge all the cache, and delete all the temporary files or non critical files (thumbnails preview, etc.) in a single touch.
    You would in theory need to open the preferences of every single app and manually clean the cache : tedious.

    But yeah the problem is that these apps use the marginally useful function, to have install an app that will :
      - try to overstep its necessary permissions.
      - get used as a marketing ploy trying to scare you into buying the "pro" version that will protect you even better against malware threats.

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    1. Re:Usefulness by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      Purging cache on Android is a matter of opening the storage settings and pressing the "cache" bar. It'll clear the entire cache on that storage device.

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  15. Interesting looking back by Striikerr · · Score: 2

    It's always interesting to have a look back at the environment when Apple started with their tight controls over everything on the iPhone. Many people derided this heavy-handedness and wanted something which they could do anything to. Enter the Android-based smartphones which would allow people to install anything from anywhere. The dangers of such a platform for a smartphone became evident over the years and the push for users towards using Google's official source for apps (the Google Play Store) increased. Things which people have often criticized Apple for doing often got implemented soon afterwards. I'm not saying Apple is perfect or makes the best decisions and this isn't about singing their praises. Apple knew the importance around keeping tight control over what is allowed to be installed onto the iOS devices, particularly as it relates to security and stability. (yes, I know they also stand to benefit from these decisions as well). So, here we are with Google screening apps and rejecting apps before they get to the Google Play Store, much like Apple did and does with iOS. I tend to thing that any security-conscious Android user urges those they know to only use apps from the Google Play Store for security reasons and to save users from installing malware riddled apps on their phones.

    This also differs greatly from PC's (before someone says "but what about PC's where you can install anything you want!!") PC's don't delay or lock out critical OS updates the way the heavily fragmented Android smartphone industry does.

    1. Re:Interesting looking back by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      It's always interesting to have a look back at the environment when Apple started with their tight controls over everything on the iPhone. Many people derided this heavy-handedness and wanted something which they could do anything to. Enter the Android-based smartphones which would allow people to install anything from anywhere. The dangers of such a platform for a smartphone became evident over the years and the push for users towards using Google's official source for apps (the Google Play Store) increased. Things which people have often criticized Apple for doing often got implemented soon afterwards. I'm not saying Apple is perfect or makes the best decisions and this isn't about singing their praises. Apple knew the importance around keeping tight control over what is allowed to be installed onto the iOS devices, particularly as it relates to security and stability. (yes, I know they also stand to benefit from these decisions as well). So, here we are with Google screening apps and rejecting apps before they get to the Google Play Store, much like Apple did and does with iOS. I tend to thing that any security-conscious Android user urges those they know to only use apps from the Google Play Store for security reasons and to save users from installing malware riddled apps on their phones.

      And the funny thing is, Apple has loosened the policies over the years - Apple was really heavy handed in the past. And now, you can even sideload apps onto iOS devices. Granted, it takes a Mac to sideload, but you can do it. So you can run a lot of "banned" apps just as well too. (They just have to be open-source since the policy is really for developers to test apps, but as long as you compile it, you can load it on your device.).

      And that's the thing - if you start out strict, you can loosen up later on. If you start out permissive, you'll end up locking things up.

  16. Solutions, please, not just rants by shanen · · Score: 1

    I think there is an obvious solution: SHARE information about the financial models used by the developers with the potential victims. One way to approach this would be with a "Financial Model" or "Money" tab in Google Play. The developer would explain where the money is. Most of the time that would involve selecting from a menu of popular business models, but it should also allow the developers to explain "Other" ideas.

    Below the part controlled by the developer of the app, there would be secure commentary provided by the google people. For example, they could confirm if they are paying the developer the money mentioned in one of the standard advertising-based financial models, or confirm that there is a paid version that is generating substantial income. The google should also report whatever background information they have checked, such as when the company was founded, and highlight any important information that they could NOT confirm. While the developer should be able to negotiate with the google about this part of the Financial Model tab, the google would have the last say.

    This would allow US to stop a lot of the scammers just because we could know when to be more suspicious.

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  17. Solution to fake ratings and reviews by shanen · · Score: 1

    There should be a way to see the EARNED public reputation of identities. That should also be linked to the actual data, allowing for network-based validation. The google is supposed to be smart enough to understand how to set up a negative feedback loop. The way this one would work would be that the harder you work to create a network of fake identities, the more visible the fake network will become and the easier to trace and remove ALL of the members (thereby erasing all of their fake ratings and reviews, too).

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