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'How I Coined the Term Open Source' (opensource.com)

Today is the 20th anniversary of the phrase "open source software," which this article says was coined by the executive director of the Foresight Institute, a nonprofit think tank focused on nanotech and artificial intelligence. The phrase first entered the world on February 3rd, 1998, according to Christine Peterson: Of course, there are a number of accounts of the coining of the term, for example by Eric Raymond and Richard Stallman, yet this is mine, written on January 2, 2006. It has never been published, until today. The introduction of the term "open source software" was a deliberate effort to make this field of endeavor more understandable to newcomers and to business, which was viewed as necessary to its spread to a broader community of users... Interest in free software was starting to grow outside the programming community, and it was increasingly clear that an opportunity was coming to change the world... [W]e discussed the need for a new term due to the confusion factor. The argument was as follows: those new to the term "free software" assume it is referring to the price. Oldtimers must then launch into an explanation, usually given as follows: "We mean free as in freedom, not free as in beer." At this point, a discussion on software has turned into one about the price of an alcoholic beverage...

Between meetings that week, I was still focused on the need for a better name and came up with the term "open source software." While not ideal, it struck me as good enough. I ran it by at least four others: Eric Drexler, Mark Miller, and Todd Anderson liked it, while a friend in marketing and public relations felt the term "open" had been overused and abused and believed we could do better. He was right in theory; however, I didn't have a better idea... Later that week, on February 5, 1998, a group was assembled at VA Research to brainstorm on strategy. Attending -- in addition to Eric Raymond, Todd, and me -- were Larry Augustin, Sam Ockman, and attending by phone, Jon "maddog" Hall... Todd was on the ball. Instead of making an assertion that the community should use this specific new term, he did something less directive -- a smart thing to do with this community of strong-willed individuals. He simply used the term in a sentence on another topic -- just dropped it into the conversation to see what happened.... A few minutes later, one of the others used the term, evidently without noticing, still discussing a topic other than terminology. Todd and I looked at each other out of the corners of our eyes to check: yes, we had both noticed what happened...

Toward the end of the meeting, the question of terminology was brought up explicitly, probably by Todd or Eric. Maddog mentioned "freely distributable" as an earlier term, and "cooperatively developed" as a newer term. Eric listed "free software," "open source," and "sourceware" as the main options. Todd advocated the "open source" model, and Eric endorsed this... Eric Raymond was far better positioned to spread the new meme, and he did. Bruce Perens signed on to the effort immediately, helping set up Opensource.org and playing a key role in spreading the new term... By late February, both O'Reilly & Associates and Netscape had started to use the term. After this, there was a period during which the term was promoted by Eric Raymond to the media, by Tim O'Reilly to business, and by both to the programming community. It seemed to spread very quickly.

Peterson remembers that "These months were extremely exciting for open source," adding "Every week, it seemed, a new company announced plans to participate. Reading Slashdot became a necessity, even for those like me who were only peripherally involved. I strongly believe that the new term was helpful in enabling this rapid spread into business, which then enabled wider use by the public."

Wikipedia notes that Linus Torvalds endorsed the term the day after it was announced, that Phil Hughes backed it in Linux Journal, and that Richard Stallman "initially seemed to adopt the term, but later changed his mind."

117 comments

  1. You refuse to give credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Because she's a woman.

    Bow, fuckers.

    1. Re:You refuse to give credit by JMJimmy · · Score: 2, Informative

      For anyone who has any doubt about this claim:

      Here's the truth: https://web.archive.org/web/19...

      We brainstormed about tactics and a new label. `Open source', contributed by Chris Peterson, was the best thing we came up with.

    2. Re:You refuse to give credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Except that, Open Source was used as a term to describe the software before it became a marketing term. I was alive and involved in the computing and "open source" software community (BBSes) at the time... I remember being confused as to why everyone was so excited that it "finally" achieved buzzword status. To me, it felt like the privileged were once again coopting grass-roots terms for their own egotistical benefit. Some things never change.

    3. Re:You refuse to give credit by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      If there's documentation of this out there link it! Better to get it straight now before it all gets lost to time.

    4. Re:You refuse to give credit by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Informative

      For anyone who has any doubt about this claim:
      Here's the truth:

      Caldera Announces Open Source for DOS, Sept. 10, 1996. There, FTFY. I know people have become a bit tired of me harping on about this, but the fact is that the phrase "Open Source" was in well-established usage years before any of these people claim to have invented it. And what's more, all of them should know it. Caldera didn't invent the term either! It was already in common use among internet-savvy programmer types when Caldera used it! "Open" has been used to describe the interoperability of Unix systems since at least the 1980s, and the phrase "Open Source" was already being used around communities like Santa Cruz (where SCO was, hence the name) which were heavy on software developers to describe software whose source code you could get your hands on for free. If only Google hadn't completely neutered the search interface on Groups, I'm sure I could find more citations...

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    5. Re:You refuse to give credit by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      Thank you for correcting me! I only verified her claim not the larger claim of inventing the term, I should know better! /. please bury my original comment!

    6. Re:You refuse to give credit by dougmc · · Score: 5, Informative

      Google may have neutered the search interface, but it's still up to this particular job :

      Just search for: "open source" before:1995/01/01

      There's lots and lots of things that aren't what we're looking for -- but more than a few that are. Such as this from 1990 or this from 1989, or this from 1985, though this last one isn't about computer software -- but the idea is still very much the same.

      You get the idea.

      That 1985 reference is the earliest one I find in what Google has archived of Usenet.

    7. Re: You refuse to give credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who gives a flying fuck? some nerd is now a tranny and that matters to you? maybe reevaluate ur life

    8. Re: You refuse to give credit by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 3, Insightful

      some nerd is now a tranny and that matters to you? maybe reevaluate ur life

      What might you might need to reconsider is what matters most to you in this topic.

    9. Re:You refuse to give credit by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 2

      it's a shame it's now so difficult to find posts from Carl Lydick. They're good for countless hours of entertainment and enlightenment.

    10. Re:You refuse to give credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Open Group is the holder of the UNIX trade mark. It was established in 1988. Open Source Software predates that by many years. I heard and used the term at university around 1980 and it was already old then.

      Now, please get off my lawn, eh.

    11. Re:You refuse to give credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In all three of those citations the term open source is meant to reference unclassified information.

    12. Re:You refuse to give credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure you did, Sparky.

    13. Re:You refuse to give credit by XXongo · · Score: 1

      The Open Group is the holder of the UNIX trade mark. It was established in 1988.

      This one? https://blogs.s-osg.org/about/

      "The Open Source Group was formed in 2013 to do the following..."

    14. Re:You refuse to give credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because she's a woman.

      Bow, fuckers.

      I credit Andy Warhol. Some people will do anything for their 15 minutes of fame.

    15. Re:You refuse to give credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this one:

      http://opengroup.org/

    16. Re:You refuse to give credit by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, the Open Group talked about Open Software, not open source Software. You may remember using the term open source, but your memory is faulty.

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      Breakfast served all day!
    17. Re:You refuse to give credit by Keith+Henson · · Score: 1

      In google groups,

      "open source software" : before:2009/01/01, no hits.

      "open source software" : before:2010/01/01, 44 hits.

      So the full phrase hit groups about 2009 where just "open source" went back much further and had additional meanings besides code. I am actually surprised it took that long for the phrase to start being used in the groups. (There is a good chance google is broken. The word "meme" does not show up till 2010 and I know there was a memetics groups earlier.)

      I knew Chris Peterson clear back to when she was in MIT. I suspect Chris would have made serious technical contributions if she had not decided that a non-profit supporting nanotechnology development was more important. As you can expect from people who graduate from MIT, she is very sharp.

      My that was a long time ago!

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      End MGM. Get prospective parents of boys to Google: Men do complain
  2. Yeah, OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The tag "Open" was already heavily used with regards to software with a published API that could be implemented without royalty payments to the copyright holder. For example, "Open Software Foundation" dates back to the mid-80s.

    Maybe this guy did come up with "Open Source". It reminds me of the Lamar Hunt, the owner of the KC Chiefs, who always bragged that he was the one who came up with the name "Super Bowl". But not the idea of having a world championship between the two big American pro football leagues at the time (NFL and AFL), and not all the hard work by hundreds or thousands of people that actually made it happen. These guys are just trivia answers.

    1. Re:Yeah, OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe this guy did come up with "Open Source".

      Huh... This "guy" is actually a girl.

    2. Re: Yeah, OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      holy shit

      some dude is trying to claim credit for open source as a term

      Jesus Christ

      suck my DAMN balls u moron

  3. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who gives a shit

    1. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KGFY NEWS UPDATE

      Said post is sitting at 0; moderation history is available to any logged-in user, and shows the post has not been moderated.

      What a pathetic attempt at trolling...

    2. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod. Parent. Up.

  4. Open and shut case. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about Bill Gates open letter to hobbyists? Or even the source code to IBM mainframes being open, even though the hardware costs millions?

    1. Re:Open and shut case. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This article is about the term "open source", not about the concept of open source software itlsef...

      Jesus F...ing Christ, don't you guys ever actually READ the articles you post about ?

    2. Re:Open and shut case. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I'm sure "a bunch of people who should have known their history better but didn't" is a much better thing than "didn't read the article". Good thing this isn't a subscription site. You'd be out of business by the end of the week.

    3. Re:Open and shut case. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This article is about the term "open source", not about the concept of open source software itlsef...

      Please explain then how the term "open source" is not related to the "concept of open source software itself".

      Jesus Christ that sentence of yours is a real mind-bender. No, our sniping is not about the article itself. Our sniping is about the clickbait headline of the article.

      Fake News Headline - "How I Coined the Term Open Source"
      Real News Headline - "How I Narrowly Defined an Existing Industry Term In A Way That Was Adopted By Mainstream Community Organizations And Used For Decades Subsequently"

      clickbait headlines deserve to be sniped.

  5. free software and open software by e**(i+pi)-1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is interesting. I would have thought it was much older than 1998. There is indeed a big difference between Free software (a term coined in 1985) and open Source software. The term"free software" was always a hard sell as people would associate it with "gratis" rather than "libre". The term "open source" has it better from from that point of view. Still, it is not the same. While one can not imagine free software without having the code open, it is possible that maybe through patents, open source is not free. The definition given by the Gnu foundation makes this clear: "Open source is a term for developers, while free software is an ethical imperative". It might be necessary keep both terms: Free and open source (FOSS). I for myself always understood "Free software" already as "free and open source software". But the addition "open" makes sense in order not to get the "cheap" association.

    1. Re:free software and open software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Community Software" would've been a better name for what Stallman called "free software", in terms of setting people's expectations. When you first hear it, "free" means they're advertising "free beer" but "community" means there may be some responsibilities involved.

      But Stallman wanted to call it "free" to connote freedom fighters, courageous folks with bandanas on their heads and marching forward against the much better-armed enemy. And "Freedom Software" or "Liberty Software" just sounded goofy.

    2. Re:free software and open software by Speare · · Score: 3, Informative
      The term "open source" existed long before this point, but not in the realm of software. It's generally used in the realm of export regulation and national signal intelligence. You know the phrase "top secret"? The inverse extreme was public knowledge... if a bit of intel is discovered through simple research such as finding it printed in a newspaper or magazine, it's "open source."

      While this phrase was not bandied about in the press at the time, there is an example in PGP. The whole fight over encryption technology being exported centered on this distinction somewhat, as printed books had different regulation from encryption technology which was controlled like munitions. So they printed the source code to PGP in a book, published it, and used OCR in other parts of the globe to reconstitute it into computer software.

      Published by The MIT Press, 1995. ISBN 0-262-24039-4.
      (no longer in print)

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    3. Re:free software and open software by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      The term "open source" existed long before this point, but not in the realm of software.

      CALDERA. ANNOUNCES OPEN SOURCE CODE MODEL FOR DOS

      DR DOS. + the Internet = Caldera OpenDOS

      PROVO, Utah Sept. 10, 1996 Caldera. Inc. today announced that it will
      openly distribute the source code for DOS via the Internet as part of
      the company's plans to encourage continued development of DOS
      technologies and applications, further leveling the playing field for
      software developers worldwide. This effort, targeted to benefit both
      individual developers and industry partners, follows Caldera's
      commitment to embrace and fund an open software environment. Caldera
      also announced plans for internal development and marketing of DOS,
      including a new product called Caldera OpenDOS .

      "DOS continues to meet the technical and financial requirements of a
      large portion of the computing industry, especially in the areas of
      network computing devices, specialized game devices and embedded
      systems," said Bryan Sparks, President and CEO of Caldera, Inc.
      "Publishing source code for DOS will benefit a large number of
      independent and in-house developers creating customized solutions
      based on DOS."

      Caldera plans to openly distribute the source code for all of the DOS
      technologies it acquired from Novell., Inc. on July 23, including
      CP/M., DR DOS., PalmDOS., Multi-User DOS. and Novell DOS 7.. Pending
      an evaluation and organization of the the technologies, the source
      code will be made available from Caldera's web site during Q1 1997.
      Caldera learned from its early investment in Linux technologies that
      the commercial market is now ready to embrace open technology
      standards for operating systems.

      Benefits of an Open Technology Model

      Caldera believes an open source code model benefits the industry in
      many ways.
      This model:
      * Increases competition, which historically leads to higher-quality
      and lower-cost products.
      * Decreases the time-to-market of innovative software.
      * Facilitates creation of customized solutions by developers,
      Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs) and Value Added Resellers
      (VARs) for even the most highly-specialized computing
      environments.
      * Extends market implementation of mature, proven technologies
      historically de-emphasized by major software vendors who favor
      new, resource-intensive technologies. Empowers independent
      developers to influence future technology advancements.
      * Creates a large pool of individuals with broad knowledge of DOS,
      increasing availability of technical support and consulting for
      end users, historically at a lower cost and with quicker response

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    4. Re: free software and open software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      goatse.cx

      more chances someone sees the goat man than reads whatever ur bullshit is

    5. Re:free software and open software by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      There's also a reference to "Open Source File" in 1993's BYTE magazine but it's unclear what it's referencing.

    6. Re:free software and open software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The term is much older, it goes back to the 80s. This woman is like Shiva Ayyadurai claiming he invented email.

    7. Re:free software and open software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > "gratis" rather than "libre"

      Yeah, that's the usual excuse. Paradoxically, I do hear this excuse over here in Germany too, dutifully translated into German *although the german "frei" doesn't have the English second meaning of "free of cost"*

      There must be other forces at work here. And yes, "free" in the sense of e.g. the FSF is downright scary for the software industry and the Web 2.0 industry, because it means *freedom for the users*

      If you want a good (albeit long) read on that: The Meme Hustler. How a group of people around O'Reilly publicized this open source thing (and how O'Reilly does meme engineering in general).

      Fascinating

    8. Re:free software and open software by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      The term "open source" as used by the IC is a relatively recent phenomenon, postdating the software term by at least a decade. It was probably appropriated from the software sense in the way a music writer might unintentionally incorporate a melody he's heard before, but it probably did not arise independently, since there are plenty of technical folks in the IC who would have been using the software term about at work.

    9. Re:free software and open software by Digital+Avatar · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately it's just part of an ad for Symantec MultiScope that features an image with callouts to various features including "open source file (wildcards allowed)". You can see it on page 13 of the January 1993 issue.

      Looks like Caldera's use of "open source" in the press release for OpenDOS is still the earliest use of the term in relation to software.

    10. Re:free software and open software by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      So they printed the source code to PGP in a book, published it, and used OCR in other parts of the globe to reconstitute it into computer software.

      There used to be a photo going round teh interwebs of it tattooed on some random bint's rump.

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    11. Re:free software and open software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    12. Re:free software and open software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "While one can not imagine free software without having the code open"

      I wish I had to imagine there are people with almost no imagination. But then there is that sentence. Of course there can be 'free software' without having the code open. If the World Of Warcraft company had decided to hand out their discs, or make .iso images downloadable for free, but never gave the source code away, that would be "free software without having the code open". In fact there are many examples of that happening. The fact that you have so internalized a particular narrow definition of the word-pair 'free software' demonstrates the other side of how various people have so internalized a particular narrow definition of 'open source' that they remain oblivious to the patent and price issues.

    13. Re:free software and open software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not unclear at all, it's a call to open a file that is the source of data.

      Nothing to do with licensing or copyright or code distribution.

  6. I filing this in the who-gives-fuck dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jack and Jillasses competing over words.

  7. Openly Distriuted Software Development Model by rtb61 · · Score: 1

    So the cost of developing software is distributed across the entire economy for use by the entire economy in order to substantially reduce the cost post development and avoid wildly inflated licence costs based around monopoly control of segments of the digital market place.

    This further extends into a properly founded education model. Where as students learn, they can contribute to existing open development software, to learn, demonstrates skill and gain employment opportunities. This is crippled by a lack of standards in operating systems and coding languages, standards that should be able to be applied internationally in order to create a sustainable, secure, stable, low costs international digital infrastructure. Computers should enhance the economy, not be a vampiric drain upon it, a destructive one, like the eg. M$ (not only exorbitant extortionate licence fees but poor business practices, invasion of privacy, attempts to control society via compulsory software install, corruption of standards, a generally practice of lies and deceit, poor software security, forced very expensive upgrades not just software licences which is a fraction of the cost, but retraining, document conversion, installation costs, the hah hah suckers costs, paying huge costs so M$ can get a tiny percentage of those capital losses as profit).

    Open source software is very much a locavore model http://www.dictionary.com/brow... ie from M$, eat your own dogfood. The developmental control shifts to any local body able to sustain it ie a coalition of universities, sustaining, maintaining and developing the code with government funding at a fraction of the cost of the current model because even though the local effort is controlled locally (do you really want the US government to have a off switch on your digital economy, or any other country), the development effort is shared internationally, good for peace and stability.

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  8. Shouldn't they have open sourced the term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shouldn't they have open sourced the term open source? Seems ironic that they want credit.

    1. Re:Shouldn't they have open sourced the term by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      It was a certification mark originally

    2. Re:Shouldn't they have open sourced the term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always rooted for the bugroff license now the guy who came up with that is a genius.

      http://tunes.org/legalese/bugroff.html

      The "No problem Bugroff" license.

      Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation devised, in addition to some marvelous software, the GNU General Public License (GPL for short). Or the CopyLeft it is sometimes called.

      It is quite a revolutionary document, using the "copyright" tool to to protect your right to use free software.

      Unfortunately using copyright to protect free software is a lot like using a Jackal to guard the hens.

      In fact, various inconveniences relating to this have resulted in modifications such as the LGPL (Library General Public License) and more recently the NPL (Netscape Public License)

      I call these matters mere inconveniences, the real damage will occur when the Jackals, (sorry, I mean lawyers), actually get to test the GPL in court for the first time.

      Thus enter my version.

      Its very simple.

      Entirely consistent.

      Completely unrestrictive.

      Easy to apply.

      The "No problem Bugroff" license is as follows...

      The answer to any and every question relating to the copyright, patents, legal issues of Bugroff licensed software is....

      Sure, No problem. Don't worry, be happy. Now bugger off.

      All portions of this license are important..

      "Sure, no problem." Gives you complete freedom. I mean it. Utterly complete. A bit of a joke really. You have complete freedom anyway.
      "Don't worry, be happy." Apart from being good advice and a good song, it also says :- No matter what anyone else says or does, you still have complete freedom.
      Now bugger off. The only way to get rid of pushy Jackals is to ignore them and not feed them. The GPL is just begging somebody to take it to court. Can't you just see it. Exactly the same thing that happened when some twit (not Linus) registered Linux as his own personal trademark. People got upset, started a fund, and hired, off all ruddy things, a Jackal to try and defend the chicken! Who really benefits from this trademark / patent / copyright thing anyway? The lawyers. Who made it up in the first place? The lawyers.
      OK so the last part of the license sounds a bit harsh, but seriously folks, if you are a :-

      Lawyer asking these legalese questions... You should go off and learn an honest trade that will actually contribute to life instead of draining it.
      Programmer asking these legalese questions... You have amazingly powerful tools in your hands and mind, use them to ask and answer the worthwhile questions of life, the universe and everything. Stop mucking about with such legal nonsense and get back to programming.
      User/reader asking these question... Don't worry. Go off and be happy. Have fun. Enjoy what has been created for you.

    3. Re:Shouldn't they have open sourced the term by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately using copyright to protect free software is a lot like using a Jackal to guard the hens.

      Using copyright to protect free software is genius because most of the problems with software are caused by copyright. If software copyrights were to be abolished, then we would scarcely need it.

      The GPL is just begging somebody to take it to court. Can't you just see it.

      It's gone to court several times, and it's been upheld each time. There sure is a lot of trivially defeated anti-GPL FUD under this story. This is my surprised face.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    4. Re:Shouldn't they have open sourced the term by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately using copyright to protect free software is a lot like using a Jackal to guard the hens.

      Using copyright to protect free software is genius because most of the problems with software are caused by copyright. If software copyrights were to be abolished, then we would scarcely need it.

      No, you're confusing gratis with libre. Eliminating copyright might result in a lot more freeware (because of the removal of the restriction on redistribution of compiled binary software) but it doesn't suddenly mean anybody can get access to the code used to build those binaries. You would end up with a permissive (BSD, Apache) environment rather than a restrictive (GPL) environment, people would be free to make modifications and distribute those without the accompanying source code in the same way proprietary software vendors do now except without the monetary cost.

  9. Can’t say I care who “coined the term& by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Are they arguing over who should get marketing props?

    I’m glad FOSS exists, regardless of the origin of the terminology.

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  10. Stallman is an idiot? by Monster_user · · Score: 1

    Hate to say it, but the linked article paints Stallman as an idiot.

    Makes it seem like he reads "open" as sealed behind glass. Not "open" as in freely accessible.

    I can understand there being a prevalence of confusion around the term "open", as source code was often available in the Unix and BSD worlds. However it does ring truer for me than "free". "Free" has never meant public domain, nor "open" during my life. "Free" has always meant "free as in beer".

    Even more so, it isn't the software that is free, but me. "Open" implies freedom, as the doors are open. Which means I am free to use the software as I see fit.

    1. Re:Stallman is an idiot? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      However it does ring truer for me than "free". "Free" has never meant public domain, nor "open" during my life. "Free" has always meant "free as in beer".

      Well, guess what? Free Software does not mean "public domain", nor does it mean "open" in the sense that Unix was using it since the eighties at least — that is, interoperable. It means that the software itself cannot be suppressed. Public Domain software does not have the same user-protecting properties as Free Software.

      If the only meaning you can think of for "free" is "free beer", then you're living in a position of privilege. There is also "Free at last, free at last, free at last."

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    2. Re: Stallman is an idiot? by Monster_user · · Score: 1

      Free as in freedom doesn't really click when it comes to software. What does it mean for software to be "free"? What can software do when it is free to do whatever it wants?

      The phrase doesn't make any logical sense, and so is quickly dismissed by my brain. "Free as in freedom" is for living creatures, or systems which can do more, not code which is fairly static. Perhaps from the author or publisher's viewpoint the code has been set free, but from an end user perspective, I'm looking to cage it up again for a stable implementation.

    3. Re: Stallman is an idiot? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Free as in freedom doesn't really click when it comes to software. What does it mean for software to be "free"? What can software do when it is free to do whatever it wants?

      It can do whatever the users can make it do, and they can distribute the results, too — because no one is in control of those results. Therefore, the software has been freed from interference. This has the most positive ramifications for the user.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    4. Re: Stallman is an idiot? by Monster_user · · Score: 1

      That is what the term is intended to convey. And perhaps the expression "I set the code free" conveys that. However, the phrase "free software" does not convey that.

      We are arguing about terminology and interpretation, not the intended meaning. It is about how it will be received, not what it expresses. "Free software" may express one thing, but the other party hears something else entirely. This is why Stallman said they needed to "shock" recipients, or use additional language.

      The biggest problem is that "free software" is a generic term typically associated with Shareware and Freeware, which still exists. So the term already has meaning. The term "Open Source" doesn't typically have to compete with existing terminology, and where it does it associates favorably with that Unix/BSD heritage. To those who are not steeped in the roots, Open Source is a new term. I learned Open Source before I knew anything about Unix, BSD, or servers. However, I learned about Freeware and Shareware even before that.

      In the order I was introduced: Nintendo Windows "Free Software": Freeware/Shareware MacOS Linux Open Source Software Closed Source Software Servers Unix/BSD "Free Software" MacOS X iOS (iPhone) Android iOS (Cisco) "Open" Software

    5. Re: Stallman is an idiot? by Monster_user · · Score: 1
      That was a lot of line breaks I forgot to insert using HTML:

      In the order I was introduced:

      Nintendo

      Windows

      "Free Software": Freeware/Shareware

      MacOS

      Linux

      Open Source Software

      Closed Source Software

      Servers

      Unix/BSD

      "Free Software"

      MacOS X

      iOS (iPhone)

      Android

      iOS (Cisco)

      "Open" Software

    6. Re: Stallman is an idiot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free as in freedom doesn't really click when it comes to software. What does it mean for software to be "free"? What can software do when it is free to do whatever it wants?

      Consider this: what do you think the human race will look like in 100 years? Will we have AI? Perhaps not true, strong AI but some sort of supplementary AI that's directly attached to the brain? Who knows. Will people who have prosthetics have software in them? Will we have access to the code? In truth, the point of Free software is precisely because when you start considering that software may actually start being merged within people, it becomes clear we as the user must have the freedom to access and modify the source code to the software that is a part of us precisely because it's something other humans could nefariously use to control us. It's the main reason we're so hesitant about genetic manipulation of humans.

      Not even fast forwarding that far, even today it's clear: the use of software to manipulate us by devices not directly implanted in us can have profound effects on us. That was true even before software when it was individuals creating schemes to control the flow of information. With software and computers and the ability to backdoor everything, it's crucial to not allow for this sort of abuse to be possible. That's why software must be free.

      The phrase doesn't make any logical sense, and so is quickly dismissed by my brain. "Free as in freedom" is for living creatures, or systems which can do more, not code which is fairly static.

      Lots of code isn't meaningfully static even if it isn't going around rewriting itself. We don't rewrite our DNA either and our brains are quite static in a lot of ways--the means to it changes, but the overly structure is surprisingly fixed. That's just not a good rabbit hole to drive down to try to make a comparison. Beyond that, we humans don't really equate "Free as in freedom" is for living creatures. Our system of agriculture, gathering from the ocean, eradication of predators to us, etc really goes against all that. It really only makes sense if your thoughts are about software and freedom in the context of preventing government suppression of software from executing, and that's obviously not the discussion.

      Perhaps from the author or publisher's viewpoint the code has been set free, but from an end user perspective, I'm looking to cage it up again for a stable implementation.

      Until you become a publisher, it does not matter if you cage it. The key is precisely to grant each end user the right to cage it for their own use and leave it to their full control. The main problem most people have with freedom is the desire to use it to suppress other through rivalry or control. The only way for other people to have freedom with software is for the software to be free of that. That is, one cannot pretend to be just an end user and deny they are a publisher to justify the suppression of others through software.

      All the above may seem overblown when talking about a simple text editor, and it is. The principle is the same though, and it's better to have these blanket rights acknowledged than to wait for something big to come along and hope enough people suddenly respect freedom of the user in that case. Because 100 years in the future...

      Stallman is a visionary. Just because not everything hasn't come to pass--no doubt precisely because Stallman has raised the alarms--is like arguing 1984 is claptrap and Orwell was an idiot because not everything that was written is.

    7. Re: Stallman is an idiot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does it mean for software to be "free"?

      It means that anybody who wants to can make it do whatever they want without paying for it. Ya know, like slavery.

    8. Re: Stallman is an idiot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It can move from place to place, computer to computer, user to user. A freedom that is often prevented by copyright.

      It can reproduce. Spawning children to go out into the world and move around as above. A freedom that is often prevented by copyright.

      It can live forever. A freedom that is often prevented by copyright with "subscription" terms, trial periods and so on.

      I can mutate into other forms and breed with other software to create new, different software. A freedom that is often prevented by copyright.

      As such, we could view "free software" as a kind of life form.

      I just happens to use us, it's users and developers, and our computers as the medium in which it lives. The habitat in which it thrives.

      Arguably it's all about the freedom of that life form.

    9. Re: Stallman is an idiot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the software relies on us, humans, as "cell bodies" to reproduce and evolve. The code has to be transmitted from one human to another.

      You might almost call it... "viral" ;)

    10. Re: Stallman is an idiot? by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Free as in freedom doesn't really click when it comes to software. What does it mean for software to be "free"? What can software do when it is free to do whatever it wants?

      It can do whatever the users can make it do, and they can distribute the results, too — because no one is in control of those results. Therefore, the software has been freed from interference. This has the most positive ramifications for the user.

      That's why it should be called Freedom Software, that way you removal this "free as in freedom, not free as in free beer" confusion altogether.

  11. I was in the building during the meeting... by OctobrX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember when the guys (Larry, Eric, etc..) came out of the room from this meeting. Eric was telling me about this newly coined phrase "Open Source". Chris DiBona and I'm not sure if Joe was there... several other guys too. It was really a great time to be alive and for me, being a fly on the wall.... it was amazing. The Feb 98 meeting is the first time I heard the term "Open Source" and I'm inclined to believe that was it's birth. Not sure about anything else.

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    1. Re:I was in the building during the meeting... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      There is actually a nice section on this in the movie Revolution OS ... well worth watching

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    2. Re: I was in the building during the meeting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They lied to you. It's been proven they didn't invent the term. Caldera did.

    3. Re:I was in the building during the meeting... by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      Eric was telling me about this newly coined phrase "Open Source".

      That's probably not what happened. No one ever says: "We just came up with a totally new term to describe what we're doing."

      No, it usually goes more like: "Hey, we're thinking of replacing 'free software' with 'open source'. What do you think? Do you think that term is going to be more understandable to people?"

      And then someone else probably chimed in and said: "Yes, it makes perfect sense! I also love the fact that former government officials and CEOs will be thinking of 'second sourcing' when thinking of 'open source'. It sure beats thinking of 'free lunch' or 'free beer' everytime someone mentions 'free software'. It also helps that 'second sourcing' is credited for having jumpstarted our computer revolution by incentivizing Intel to share some of its trade secrets with AMD."

  12. Now it can be told by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm the one who first coined the term, "RAM" to describe random access memory. It took me weeks to come up with it. Finally, after drinking half a bottle of absinthe, one night I had a dream about having sex with a sheep and...VOILA!...it came to me. RAM. Yep, that was all me.

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    1. Re:Now it can be told by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I invented fire, agriculture, and the wheel. Cool story about your sheep fantasy, though.

    2. Re:Now it can be told by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      That's unpossible, since a) memory is accessed pseudorandomly, at best, and b) that wasn't a dream. You said you would call me, asshole!

  13. Why not just "open software" by Mandrel · · Score: 0

    I prefer the term "open software".

    The term "open source" on face value only implies "source available". But I believe the most important feature of open software is that it allows people to create and distribute modified versions. "Open Source", as defined by OSI, should be capitalized, which it isn't in this summary.

    Yes, the term "Free Software" on face value only implies that one can use it without payment, which it does under its Freedom 0. This freedom is I believe is less important than the freedom to re-distribute.

    There are ways to licence software that, while its source can be viewed, modified, and re-published, requires payment for production use. I'd still call such packages "open software", even though they're commercial in the sense that all developers up the fork tree can get paid directly (rather than through any side-scheme like donations, maintenance, closed components, or via a job selling an associated proprietary item).

    1. Re:Why not just "open software" by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I prefer the term "open software".

      Absent explanation, the term "open" in computing means interoperable. Since the eighties, Unix systems have been described as "open" due to their conformance to published standards.

      The term "open source" on face value only implies "source available".

      Yep. And that's all it means.

      But I believe the most important feature of open software is that it allows people to create and distribute modified versions.

      Nope. All it means is source code access. It doesn't imply the freedom to redistribute changed binaries, only patches.

      "Open Source", as defined by OSI, should be capitalized, which it isn't in this summary.

      The OSI does not get to define the phrase Open Source, because they did not invent it (not even, as they claim, pertaining solely to software!)

      Yes, the term "Free Software" on face value only implies that one can use it without payment,

      That's only if you hear "free" and automatically think "I don't have to pay". Some people hear "free" and think "not in bondage". In some countries, Free Software is called Software Libre, which suggests freedom. But "Open Source" is, frankly, an even worse term. You can construe that to mean basically anything — and the OSI is trying.

      There are ways to licence software that, while its source can be viewed, modified, and re-published, requires payment for production use. I'd still call such packages "open software",

      You can call them whatever you want, but if the users can get the sources, then they're Open Source by definition. Whose definition? The people who were using it as such before the OSI even existed. In fact, the people that the leading lights of the OSI certainly heard the phrase from, before they claim to have invented it.

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    2. Re:Why not just "open software" by Mandrel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Absent explanation, the term "open" in computing means interoperable. Since the eighties, Unix systems have been described as "open" due to their conformance to published standards.

      Few think that "open" means "open standard". Proprietary software that's interoperable because one can interface with a published API certainly isn't called "open".

      The term "open source" on face value only implies "source available".

      Yep. And that's all it means.

      Uncapitalized and on face value yes. But the OSI definition includes the full libre criteria, and most developers now associate the uncapitalized term with this definition (even in this article).

      But I believe the most important feature of open software is that it allows people to create and distribute modified versions.

      Nope. All it means is source code access. It doesn't imply the freedom to redistribute changed binaries, only patches.

      I'm not talking about terms and definitions here, but calling out what I see as the most important aspect of Free Software.

      "Open Source", as defined by OSI, should be capitalized, which it isn't in this summary.

      The OSI does not get to define the phrase Open Source, because they did not invent it (not even, as they claim, pertaining solely to software!)

      OSI did invent the term "open source" as a more descriptive term than "free software" for MIT- and GPL-type licences. The article to which you linked found an earlier use of "open source" that only meant "source available". As I said above, "open source" now means more than this in most people's minds.

      Yes, the term "Free Software" on face value only implies that one can use it without payment,

      That's only if you hear "free" and automatically think "I don't have to pay". Some people hear "free" and think "not in bondage". In some countries, Free Software is called Software Libre, which suggests freedom. But "Open Source" is, frankly, an even worse term. You can construe that to mean basically anything — and the OSI is trying.

      The ambiguity of "free" in English was a major reason for the introduction of the "Open Source" term by the OSI.

    3. Re:Why not just "open software" by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      OSI did invent the term "open source" as a more descriptive term than "free software" for MIT- and GPL-type licences.

      They don't get to do that, because they don't own the term Open Source, which predates the OSI.

      The article to which you linked found an earlier use of "open source" that only meant "source available".

      Yes, you've got it in one. The OSI is attempting to redefine a term which was already in common use at the time they created themselves in an attempt to control it.

      The ambiguity of "free" in English was a major reason for the introduction of the "Open Source" term by the OSI.

      They didn't introduce it. People (including me) were using it before the OSI even existed.

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    4. Re:Why not just "open software" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "OSI did invent the term "open source" as a more descriptive term than "free software" for MIT- and GPL-type licences."

      Can we please admit that neither "open source" nor "free software" are adequately descriptive? I think the whole reason this debate is a thing is because people want short labels. Sometimes that isn't effectively possible. Like here. When non-techie of 1995 or 2025 hears "free software" they think- "like that other software I paid for, but with a price of 0.00". And that's not because they are an idiot, it's because that is what a logical person not versed in industry nuance would think when they heard the term.

      Twitter was an abomination. TL;DR is a term people who are trying to put one over on you use. The important issues cannot be summed up in 2 words or a couple hundred characters.

    5. Re:Why not just "open software" by Mandrel · · Score: 1

      We agree that the use of the term "Open Source" for libre licences is misleading. But it's now impossible to reclaim its original source-available definition.

      I really do think that "open software" is good term for libre software licenses that allow anyone to view the source, build the software, modify it, and release modified versions — but not necessarily not having to pay to run either the original or a modified/expanded version (gratis software).

  14. Irony: fighting for credit of the term "open sourc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Is it any wonder why only a handful of FOSS projects have had widespread adoption and success, while most are pesky little tribes of infighting and pot shots?

  15. (whoops! forgot the link) by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:(whoops! forgot the link) by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You realize that Caldera became SCO, right?

      Wrong, they acquired SCO.

      Enemy #1 of FOSS.

      No, Enemy #1 of FOSS is Microsoft, which paid for much of SCO v. Linux. SCO was (is!) only an instrument of Microsoft.

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    2. Re:(whoops! forgot the link) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wrong again. Caldera bought DR-DOS but soon realized it wasn't going to make any money due to the MS-DOS merger into Windows 95. So, Caldera sued Microsoft over it as this was during the same period as the whole MS/Netscape fight about comingling) and if nothing else MS might issue some sort of a payout (which ended up being a $280m out-of-court settlement in 2000).

      Meanwhile, Caldera bought up several rights to various (but not all) SCO software/services in 2000. Caldera was already involved in the Linux scene, and presumably they thought they could leverage the SCO rights in some way (name recognition or something, perhaps). Unsurprisingly, this was not any real advantage as proprietary Unix was on the decline (just like Novell sold DR-DOS). So, Caldera changed its name to SCO and sued another major player in the Linux scene for copyright infringement.

      In short, I'd almost call Caldera founded as a litigation whore. They bought up dead or dying OS, tried some to turn them around for a profit, but ended up really trying to just get as much money out of them by any means possible, including litigation and including very tenuous legal theories. At least with the Caldera vs Microsoft case, they showed Microsoft frequently lied about the degree of tie-in between MS-DOS and Windows*. With SCO Group (aka Caldera) vs IBM, it was purely a fishing expedition with innuendo.

      PS - I used to cheer for Caldera back during the late 90s precisely because I had an old system where Windows 9x was not an option (well, not a good one, anyways), and their move to OpenDOS and generally having any sort of progress on that front was a positive to me. The whole Microsoft case was more icing on the cake.

      * The stupidity to me was that Microsoft could have just been truthful and stated they wanted to merge the code bases to simplify their work. There was already some Windows reaching into DOS stuff in the Windows 3.x days (which is why DR-DOS and the like had to be patched). Their main choices were to (1) expose the functionality officially in MS-DOS to support Win 3.x (and then all the competitors would be able to duplicate it) even though that's a really ass-backwards development model; (2) basically make DOS32, a multitasking 32-bit DOS that had 16-bit VMs DoD (DOS on DOS), memory protection, hardware abstraction drivers, and generally all the stuff that made Win 9x Win 9x except the interface..and then make an interface on top of that exposing the features there; or (3) just accept that Windows was becoming THE interface for PCs and integrate DOS into it instead of trying to hack around all the ways in which keeping them separate would entail. In the end, they went with (3) even though it was basically (1) without documenting the changes (since they didn't really want to mess with DOS any more than they needed to).

      Looking back, it's clear why (3) wasn't really some sort of monopolistic abuse (although before the actual merger, one could argue there might have been). There was clearly a major evolution taking place. Win9x wasn't just a thin GUI to running DOS VMs. It was a substantial API with a lot of programs being written for it (and all the 16-bit Win 3.x/2.x/1.x apps). In comparison, the browser still isn't an OS (although one can certainly make a whole OS around just it). So, hindsight tells where the difference is. In any case, it's not reasonable to run MS-DOS and DR-DOS at the same time under Windows. It is reasonable to run Netscape and Internet Explorer at the same time over Windows. So, any attempt to advantage or disadvantage one over the other outside the software itself by a monopoly is anti-competitive.

  16. Names that were rejected at the meeting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - Source Code at Your Fingertips

    - No Obligation Software

    - Salesman-Free Zone Software

    - Really Free Software

    - You Can Look AND Touch Software

    - Unshared Source

    - Yours Totally Dude, Go Nuts Software

  17. Re:Can’t say I care who “coined the te by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Are they arguing over who should get marketing props?

    They are, and it's pathetic, because they are ignorant at best. My particular dog in this fight is not wanting the OSI to be in charge of what you can call Open Source. They wanted to be in charge of it before, their legal counsel advised them against it, and they decided against attempting to establish such a trademark. Hopefully that bird has already flown the coop, but self-aggrandizement like this could lead to actual attempts. I'm not trying to make myself look great, I'm trying to prevent a hijacking.

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  18. Contractual "terms" VS. phrases of legend & lo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    terms are more along the line of negative averments, since Open Source isn't really an open source until you agree-obviously. Is all nothing more than a style to all non-GNU to compete through disclosures parallel to GNU but nothing arrived to those dry docks other than Mach and not even DragonflyBSD or QNX. So Open Source can keep sucking on their own lemons.

    Phrases are always proprietary, never in competition but through US PTO so lalala I'm not listening is how Microsoft wrote compilers to do things away from ANSI compliance... like just leaving behind the education system to put their own credentials in circulation while backwashing application training into the universities. I still laugh at how Engineers suppossedly rocketblasted into the future beyond their technician counterparts, and the choochoo train gets drugged along the rooves by the universities itchong at bankrupting 199 of 200 private businesses their graduates can extort higher payroll against.

  19. Re:Can’t say I care who “coined the te by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Interesting... I didn’t know that about Caldera.

    Also that mention of (the real) SCO from back in the day made me rather sad.

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  20. in 1996, 32MBs SDRAM was average by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just think of compiling anything on a Pentium 133MHz computer at the time... and Dial-up 28.8k baud forced website development to be respectful & lean. those were better days, and Linux Mall sent me Caldera Open Linux lite and RedHat 5 and Slackware for $7 delivered.

    1. Re:in 1996, 32MBs SDRAM was average by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      just think of compiling anything on a Pentium 133MHz computer at the time...

      Pentium? Surely you jest! We ran circus.com on a hand-me-down 486DX4-100 with 16MB RAM... and Caldera Network Desktop. And that machine not only served webpages to the world for many years, but it also ran samba, netatalk, and NFS to provide filesharing services to windows, macintosh, and Unix clients respectively, including booting my SLC into Xkernel and displaying Netscape (2.x IIRC) back on it, and supporting a local user logging in through a vt100.

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  21. Glad it Exists by Dangerous_Minds · · Score: 1

    I think more people need to at least give open source (or whatever you want to call it) projects a try. I've tried a number of projects over the years. Not all open source projects are created equal, but I certainly don't regret trying things like Libre Office. Is it for everyone? No. Should people at least try it and decide for themselves? Yes. It doesn't have to be a whole OS. Small apps work fine.

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  22. The "marketing", not the "coining" is interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The really fascinating part of the story is the inner workings of a subtle campaign to defang the Free Software movement of its social component: meme engineering, "education", and publisher-Wikipedia feedback loops: https://thebaffler.com/salvos/....

    A long read, but worth every minute.

  23. Lol bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "open source" goes all the way back to shareware / floppy disk age.

    Maybe not as 'open source software' the entire phrase. But i guarantee that predates win95 for sure.

    Guy is full of the brownest shit.

    1. Re:Lol bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "open source" goes all the way back to shareware / floppy disk age.
      Maybe not as 'open source software' the entire phrase. But i guarantee that predates win95 for sure.

      I keep hearing this claim, but no one can ever seem to find any evidence.

      Come on, it should be easy to find just ONE printed reference to "open source" from back then?

    2. Re: Lol bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read this thread. Drinky_poo already did the work and listed references.

    3. Re: Lol bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He provided examples that the term "open source" was used by certain entities in certain instances, but not that it was ever used broadly in the sense of having access to source code. It's more likely it was coined multiple times by these entities, without regard to whether it had been used previously.

      Think about it: if the term were in common use at universities etc., it would be all over Usenet during that time period (roughly 1980-1996) but it just isn't.

  24. This comment will self destruct in 5,4,3,... by Arglebarf · · Score: 1

    The intelligence community has been using "open source" for decades to describe any unclassified information that can be publicly obtained, e.g. newspapers, books, stuff in plain view, etc. Reasonably similar meaning, given open source software means the code is public.

  25. Chris Peterson [Re:You refuse to give credit] by XXongo · · Score: 1

    [You refuse to give credit] Because she's a woman. Bow, fuckers.

    Well, she's a woman now.

    At the time, though, she was Chris Peterson, not Christine.[1] [2]

    1. Re:Chris Peterson [Re:You refuse to give credit] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you retarded? You've never met a woman called "Chris" before?

      BTW she married Drexler in 1981. Pretty sure she was female then, well before your 1991 "Chris Peterson" cite.

  26. Coined in 1998? Bullshit by mark-t · · Score: 2

    I first heard of the term "Open source" in the late 1980's in connection with a freely available dos game at time called Moria. To the best of my knowledge, it was the original author tgat used the term "open source" to describe the project and he was supposedly not involved in the project anymore by the time I heard of the game (1988 or so). I expect that the origins of the term might go back even further.

  27. Nomenclature/Terminology is Important! by BobC · · Score: 1

    I attended UC San Diego from 1981 to 1986, where we used GNU (not Gosling) Emacs and pre-release versions of GCC to hack on BSD 4.1-4.3 in several of my classes. Even then the strain between the many dimensions surrounding software development and use were evident: closed vs. shared source, free vs. commercial distribution, public domain vs. rent vs. own licensing, and so on, most of which persist to this day. Back then, the issues were made evident by the standoff between AT&T (UNIX) and DECUS (DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) User Society), who distributed BSD via "DECUS tapes" for DEC platforms (especially for the then-new VAX-11 systems).

    Many philosophical discussions debated the relative merits of the situation. The problem, for me, was disentangling the conflated issues, which demanded a focus on making words have specific meanings within the software context, rather than the free-for-all of pithy phrases then ruling the interwebs (USENET, at the time).

    The commercial software industry had defined itself fairly well, leaving "everything else" as "non-commercial", which, aside from being a vague catch-all, created an artificial boundary that was quite ably crossed by "dual-licensed" software. Within the non-commercial arena, we had GNU at one end, placing a legal/moral/ethical stake in the ground, and those who favored more of a libertarian or laissez-faire approach. And, of course, the many left wandering between those extremes.

    My own small contribution to the discussion was an attempt to frame non-commercial software as "Communal Software", where each project was it's own community that would have its own non-commercial rules, much like a housing development would have a homeowner's association (HOA) and a Code of Community Responsibility (CCRs). Software communities could federate when they shared common governance and rules/licensing. My hope was that this would encourage folks to try different things, and see which approaches worked best for which situations.

    As a bottom-up approach it received some discussion, but GNU (and later OSI, the Open Source Initiative) had louder voices arguing for a top-down approach. The net result has been those two being the primary non-commercial camps, with BSD/MIT licenses filling many of the gaps between each of them and the commercial community, with more recent contributions from Creative Commons (CC). The top-down approach gained speed as non-commercial distribution shifted from physical media (tapes, floppies) to online (FTP, USENET alt.binaries, Gopher, and later communities such as SourceForge). Mass distribution encouraged reducing the number of licensing strategies.

    While much has been done to clarify the terms we use, there still is way too much confusion still present in most discussions, with many folks talking over each other without realizing they are using language differently.

    Any lexicographers and philosophers want to take a stab at improving our linguistic landscape?

  28. Twaddle by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Of course, there are a number of accounts of the coining of the term, for example by Eric Raymond and Richard Stallman, yet this is mine, written on January 2, 2006. It has never been published, until today.

    Yeah? Well I landed on the moon in 1967, but my camera broke down.

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  29. what do 'Open Internet' and 'Server' mean EXACTLY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In all three of those citations the term open source is meant to reference unclassified information.

    Indeed, I just verified that what you said is very plausibly true at least for the 1989 one. A search of usenet archives however does seem to be the right way to go about investigating the issue. I just did some strolling down memory lane by reading slackware-3.0 documentation and was somewhat surprised I didn't see the term there. I tend to agree (with far from total recall) with the other commenter/s who suggest the term was used and understood to mean 'source available' before it was 'adopted' and given a narrower definition which subsequently was accepted by some mainstream communities. Perhaps "Open Source" has a differing 'coining' genesis than "open source". I certainly get the impression there is and has been a fair amount of orwellian attempts to rewrite history for various common terms. Even if that's not exactly what is going on here, it's something to watch out for. Tiananmen Square Massacre has a different ring to it than June Fourth Incident.

    -some other dmc

  30. The Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey guys I have just invented a new term. "The Internet" not sure what we will use it for yet but I just made it up ok, and it is all me.

  31. "How I am a Lying Sack" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm... the term "Open Source" started as "Free and Open Source," and it was actually coined by a guy on a programming team I was on back in college at a prominent north eastern engineering school, in the fall of 1996.

  32. MOD GRANDPARENT DOWN / MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In all three of those citations the term open source is meant to reference unclassified information.

    indeed, I checked the other two as well. Grandparent should be modded -5 DISINFORMATIVE, not +5 INFORMATIVE. Again, a good search of usenet is the right way to go about this task (beyond noting the caldera press release). But in this case, this particular search of usenet (aka googlegroups, sigh) was NOT A GOOD SEARCH.

    -some other dmc whose comments are less disinformative than dougmc+slashdot@frenzied.us

  33. Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > yet this is mine, written on January 2, 2006. It has never been published, until today.

    Pleased to meet you! I myself coined relativity and wrote a seminal work in 1914 never published until today.

    PS. Send my foundation cash now.

    PPS. Does this too loony? Where will we find a tech news site so low to air our self-serving bullshit?

  34. earliest I heard it was early 80's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    somewhere around 1982 the term Open source came into use with the folks I worked with in silicon valley,
    NOT 1996...
    BTW I have been programming since '68(first in Dartmouth Basic, then fortran2&4, Pl-1, BAL,etc ad nauseam) ie I was there..

    its just like the term VPN(I did the first VPN over ISDN deployment planning for SunSoft in 1994) did I invent it?? nah I THOUGHT I heard Marcus J Ranum use it in 88 or so, couple other folks also, I WAS the first person to use the term in the SUN IR skunk group and SUNLABS who I was consulting for...

    anon
    (forrest gump of the computer industry!)

         

  35. Re:Can’t say I care who “coined the te by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Also that mention of (the real) SCO from back in the day made me rather sad.

    As usual, I'm just wistful that I wasn't born sooner. I participated in geek culture in Santa Cruz and thus knew a bunch of SCO employees who were in the social scene, and still keep up with a few of them. SCO was once one of the classic Unix shops, with a diverse and developed culture. Open-access SCO systems gorn (The Planet Gorn) and Deep Thought (which still exists!) were, alongside some of UCSC's hardware and a few of the local BBSes, cornerstones of the local nerd community. But I was born years after most of that crowd, and missed out on most of the best parties, the SCO hot tub...

    Another open-standards vendor which existed in the neighborhood was TGV, aka "Two guys and a VAX". Besides the mainframe mouse, their claim to fame was creation of a TCP stack for VMS. They followed that on with the TCP stack for Windows 3.x, which had far and away the best performance. You could feasibly use a Windows machine as a small router. Once upon a time, that meant a lot of seats, for not that many employees (though more than two.) They were working on a TCP stack for Windows 9x for some reason when they were bought by Cisco and turned into a Cable Modem development lab.

    --
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  36. All Rights Inclusive Software (ARIS) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or
    Freedom Inclusive Software (FIS)

  37. Ha, OSINT! by tmjva · · Score: 1

    I would gather the Intelligence Community had been using the term for decades hitherto.

    I remember an unclassified "Open Source" mini-convention in D.C. some years back.  Some programmer attended thinking it was something else and complained about how "evil" they were, collecting Intel from "open sources".

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  38. What if this is the Mandela effect? by mark-t · · Score: 1

    I'm positive I first heard the term "open source" in the 1980's associated with a specific software product that I have mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but I can find absolutely no reference to the term at all that I can positively prove today that the term was actually in use (with respect to software) at the time. What if we're all completely wrong, and we just think we are right for some weird reason?

    If no evidence of this can be produced in the present, how do we know that we are not, in fact, misremembering?

    1. Re:What if this is the Mandela effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0