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LoopX Startup Pulls ICO Exit Scam and Disappears with $4.5 Million (bleepingcomputer.com)

Catalin Cimpanu, writing for BleepingComputer: A cryptocurrency startup named LoopX has pulled an exit scam after collecting around $4.5 million from users during an ICO (Initial Coin Offering) held in the recent weeks. The LoopX team disappeared out of the blue at the start of the week when it took down its website and deleted its Facebook, Telegram, and YouTube channels without any explanation. People who invested in the startup are now tracking funds move from account to account in a BitcoinTalk forum thread, and banding together in the hopes of filing a class action lawsuit.

122 comments

  1. Dumbasses by registrations_suck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    HA, HA!!

    1. Re:Dumbasses by sit1963nz · · Score: 1

      Wish I had mod points to mod you up.

    2. Re:Dumbasses by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Please let this be the one that Salon.com has started using!

  2. Can I get a list of the people who invested? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Funny

    >> People who invested in the startup are now tracking funds move from account to account in a BitcoinTalk forum thread, and banding together in the hopes of filing a class action lawsuit

    Would it be possible to get a list of the rubes who invested into this "initial coin offering"? (Because I have a few more things I'd like to sell them, starting with the Brooklyn Bridge.)

    1. Re:Can I get a list of the people who invested? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, telling them you'd sell them the Brooklyn Bridge sounds fake. Tell them you have money units that you created called CryptoXcam and they'll pay you tons of money. Don't like to them. Be up front. Tell them they are expensive, hard to get, harder to use, aren't recognized as currency, and that you'll probably disappear with all their money any day. They will still buy it. You'd think people would learn, but no.

    2. Re:Can I get a list of the people who invested? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeez, at least sell them your copy of "Class Action Lawsuits for Dummies".

    3. Re:Can I get a list of the people who invested? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2
      What? That is a very valuable information, worth far more than the 4.5 million they stole.

      List of confirmed rubes that are known to be gullible, is so valuable man. The scammers of the world would pay top dollar for the list. You don't stand a chance.

      --
      sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
    4. Re:Can I get a list of the people who invested? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't call it the "Brooklyn Bridge." Call it the "Blockchain Bridge" and you'll get millions from investors.

      --
      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
    5. Re: Can I get a list of the people who invested? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Satire fail. You must be so fun IRL.

    6. Re:Can I get a list of the people who invested? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll take the Brooklyn Bridge. Just tell me how much BTC to send and your wallet address.

      I'm interested in your other items as well.

    7. Re:Can I get a list of the people who invested? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /thread.

    8. Re:Can I get a list of the people who invested? by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      Funny too that they are considering a class action lawsuit against an entity with no continuing legal presence. The appropriate mechanism is criminal charges on the individuals involved.

      But yes, a fool and their money are soon parted. Pay some country's money for cryptocurrency, or set it on fire, the result is the same.

    9. Re:Can I get a list of the people who invested? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's bitztream the autism-hating, custom EpiPen-hating, Musk-hating, Qualcomm-hating, Firefox tabs-hating, Slashdot editors-hating Slashdot troll!

    10. Re:Can I get a list of the people who invested? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the dot com jokes going around in 2000

      Three beggars are begging in New York City. The first one wrote "beg" on his broken steel cup. After one day he had received ten bucks.

      The second one wrote "beg.com" on his cup. After one day he had received hundreds of thousand of dollars. Someone even wanted to take him to NASDAQ.

      The third one wrote "eBeg" on his cup. Both IBM and HP sent vice-presidents to talk to him about a strategic alliance and offered him free hardware and professional consulting. Larry Ellison claimed on CNBC that eBeg uses 95% Oracle technology. i2 announced begTradeMatrix, a b2b industry portal to offer supply chain integration in the beggar market. Cisco just announced that virtually all eBeg traffic runs over their equipment.

    11. Re:Can I get a list of the people who invested? by houghi · · Score: 1

      Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

      --
      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    12. Re:Can I get a list of the people who invested? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Because I have a few more things I'd like to sell them, starting with the Brooklyn Bridge.)

      You can't sell them the Brooklyn Bridge. I already bought it from the CEO of LoopX for a really good price. He even threw in some of his new cryptocurrency.

  3. Darn by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is bad. I bought into the offering. Is it possible to get my money back? I want to get in the lawsuit too.

    1. Re:Darn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can help you with that. First, we need a retainer for a lawyer. You can pay with VillLoseX coins. There will be a ICO soon. Buy all you can. Then when we win a trillion dollars they will be paid out in Fakerium coins. You'll need to buy some of those to set up an account. As you know, sometimes people will take all the real money you used to buy fake money, so I highly suggest buying a substantial amount of WorthlessCoin in case one of your other accounts is compromised. Whatever you do, keep buying XCoins!

    2. Re:Darn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You did not buy into anything dude, mommy said you had to save the $3, stop pretending, again

    3. Re:Darn by MikeDataLink · · Score: 1

      You can pay with VillLoseX coins. There will be a ICO soon. Buy all you can. Then when we win a trillion dollars they will be paid out in Fakerium coins.

      I haven't laughed this hard in weeks.

      --
      Mike @ The Geek Pub. Let's Make Stuff!
    4. Re:Darn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you have this backward. People who bought into this need mommy to handle their money. Adults knew it was a scam from the start.

      So, burn?

    5. Re:Darn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then when we win a trillion dollars they will be paid out in Fakerium coins.

      You could likely sucker enough people into this scheme to retire to your own tropical island nation with full legal immunity as a diplomat. The Wonderful World of CryptoCurrency where crypto does not mean security.

    6. Re:Darn by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      Is it possible to get my money back?

      It's a good time to review the definitions of "real" and "virtual" at this point.

      If you can see it, and it's there . . . it's real.

      If you can see it, and it's not there . . . it's virtual.

      If you can't see it, and it's not there . . . it's gone.

      These financial fumblers will get their lawsuit . . . but their money is long gone.

      --
      Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    7. Re:Darn by Immerman · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Adults knew it was a scam from the start.

      Well sure - but they were hoping the scam would last long enough for the early adopters to get in on the action too. It's getting so you can't even trust a pyramid scheme to make you a dishonest buck anymore.

      --
      --- Most topics have many sides worth arguing, allow me to take one opposite you.
    8. Re:Darn by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      You gave someone your money for imaginary things. You still have your imagination, so any loss that you have incurred is a failure of your imagination.

      --
      "His name was James Damore."
    9. Re:Darn by edtice1559 · · Score: 2

      I think you were going for a +5 Funny but just so that you know, in a Ponzi scheme, initial investors often get hit with clawbacks so not even they make money.

    10. Re:Darn by tattood · · Score: 3, Informative
      Pyramid scheme != Ponzi scheme. From Wikipedia:

      ...pyramid schemes are based on network marketing, where each part of the pyramid takes a piece of the pie / benefits, forwarding the money to the top of the pyramid. They fail simply because there aren't sufficient people. Ponzi schemes, on the other hand, are based on the principle of "Robbing Peter to pay Paul"—early investors are paid their returns through the proceeds of investments by later investors

      This was neither a pyramid, nor a ponzi scheme. It was just plain fraud.

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      WTB [sig], PST!!!
    11. Re:Darn by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      If you can see it, and it's not there . . . it's virtual.

      You mean like the cash in everyone's bank accounts?

      --
      #DeleteFacebook
    12. Re:Darn by dwarfking · · Score: 1

      This sounds like it would make a good School House Rock episode.

    13. Re: Darn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yesz. You can transform from virtual to real and back. But not if it is GONE

    14. Re:Darn by Notabadguy · · Score: 2

      I can help you with that. First, we need a retainer for a lawyer. You can pay with VillLoseX coins. There will be a ICO soon. Buy all you can. Then when we win a trillion dollars they will be paid out in Fakerium coins. You'll need to buy some of those to set up an account. As you know, sometimes people will take all the real money you used to buy fake money, so I highly suggest buying a substantial amount of WorthlessCoin in case one of your other accounts is compromised. Whatever you do, keep buying XCoins!

      Ah shit. Meant to +1 funny, accidentally -1 overrated, had to post to remove the negative mod point.

      If it makes you feel more karmic, 6 other people are losing a +1 in here to offset it.

    15. Re:Darn by houghi · · Score: 1

      It was a pyramid scheme. Just a very limited one with only 1 level.

      --
      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
  4. Nobody listens by Khyber · · Score: 2

    Those of us with brains warned them about the scam. They didn't listen. Perhaps I could sour their lawsuit by demonstrating that they were given fair warning to NOT invest.

    --
    Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
    1. Re:Nobody listens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The LoopX team disappeared out of the blue at the start of the week when it took down its website and deleted its Facebook, Telegram, and YouTube channels without any explanation

      Well, why did they do that? Why not just abandon them and hope nobody notices? Why PRO-ACTIVELY telegraph that you're shutting down and leaving town?

  5. Why a Lawsuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would a class action lawsuit be preferable to reporting the crime to the police?

    1. Re:Why a Lawsuit? by sheramil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why would a class action lawsuit be preferable to reporting the crime to the police?

      Realistically, what can the police do if you tell them you gave a ton of money to some guy on the internet and he disappeared with it? The best you can hope for is that he'll say "I'll just type that up on my invisible typewriter" in an Edward G. Robinson voice.

    2. Re:Why a Lawsuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      They're too busy shooting black and brown people to care about this petty crime.

    3. Re:Why a Lawsuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But they have to identify the fraudsters to know how to sue anyway...

    4. Re:Why a Lawsuit? by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 2

      Why would a class action lawsuit be preferable to reporting the crime to the police?

      Why would the two be mutually exclusive?

      --
      http://www.geoffreylandis.com
    5. Re:Why a Lawsuit? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Informative

      Given my experience, local police would throw their hands up in the air and say they couldn't do anything. I had my identity stolen and a credit card opened in my name. The police outright told me they didn't want to investigate because they'd likely track the criminal to another jurisdiction and some other department would get the arrest. I pushed and they did some investigations. They reached a "dead end" when they showed me the online credit card application the criminal filled out. I pointed out that they had the person's IP address and the date/time it was submitted. The officer looked at me blankly as I explained that you could use those to find the ISP and get the name of the person who owned that account. Sure, it might be a hacked system, but it would be something. Despite this, though, they didn't follow up on this and I eventually stopped pestering the police for updates. For all I know, the people who stole my identity are still doing it to other people.

      I tried contacting the FBI but since I didn't lose a ton of money, they weren't interested in my case at all. Maybe this would rise to their level and they could track these scammers down. Local police, though, would be all but useless.

      --
      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
    6. Re: Why a Lawsuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yours is a sad story. And frightening, too, as identity theft is scary.

      I am not a US citizen. Reading your post, I was reminded that apparently in the USA police recruits are given an intelligence test and if they score too highly, they are rejected.

    7. Re:Why a Lawsuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The police are little more than thugs partaking in the biggest con in town. The police don't do shit for the ordinary person. People think they clean up blood or something when someone is shot. Nope. They at least investigate right? Rarely. The big crimes a bit more- but it's still like a 1 in 4 chance they'll catch the murder and half the time it's questionable if the prosecuted person even committed the crime because there is a lack of reliable evidence. Local and state police in particular are mostly just small time petty gangsters that steal tiny amounts of money from people and then go around arguing "safety" and there even organizations setup to build evidence to show how they are making people safer if only we pass another law. I routinely testify and file 91a requests to get the info needed to counter BS police statistics and similar and they do everything to hinder you from investigating. They took over 3 months to provide copies of the tickets given at just two "DUI checkpoint" covering a total of 3 incidents of which none were even DUI related nor significant enough to warrant the harassment of the general public. No- stopping every driver might be easier to see if they are drinking- but it's actually more cost effective (even if it requires police to I don't know work) to actually patrol and pull over drunks (and the f'ing police have even stated that- yet they still go in and argue against getting rid of DUI checkpoints- of course- they get paid overtime to do them- so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised).

    8. Re: Why a Lawsuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair though, at least the response is in a serious tone. In some countries in the world if you report identity theft to the authorities and ask them to do something about it the response is: "AHAHAHHAAHAHAAAHAAA, get out of here and quit wasting our time."

    9. Re:Why a Lawsuit? by houghi · · Score: 1

      In Belgium going to the police might still be a good thing as there will then be a trace of when you filed it. That way they can't later say that you where to late for whatever reason.

      Any lawyer will first look at the dates when that was done and if the time was unreasonable late (yes, that is very flexible) it will weaken your case. Sometimes so much that you do not get anything. I know. I have been on both sides. Saying "You filed a claim after six months? We doubt that you are honest about that, so fuck off." and the legal system followed us in that way of thinking.

      So I would start any and all procedures, just to prove later that you did your part. Send emails and keep the bounces. Save screenshots with dates. Keep records of newspaper segments. And if you write to the company concerned, keep it as dry as possible. If you start accusing or worse, cussing, you will be taken less serious.

      --
      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    10. Re:Why a Lawsuit? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Good point. Go to the police to make a record of when you discovered that this occurred, but don't go there expecting that they will crack the case and bring the thieves to justice.

      --
      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
  6. Link to BitcoinTalk forum by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the link to the BitcoinTalk forum our useless editors failed to provide:
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2521307.0

    I have to admit: it IS pretty funny!

    1. Re:Link to BitcoinTalk forum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    2. Re:Link to BitcoinTalk forum by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      Here's a link to Jon's link.
      https://bitcointalk.org/index.... [bitcointalk.org]

      ..and [this link] is as imaginary as the coins.

      --
      "His name was James Damore."
    3. Re:Link to BitcoinTalk forum by GrumpySteen · · Score: 3, Funny

      Here's a link to Anonymous Coward's link.
      https://slashdot.org/comments....

    4. Re:Link to BitcoinTalk forum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah so there is a forum where cointards from all over can discuss tarded things

      this place and all who view it should be nuked from orbit

    5. Re:Link to BitcoinTalk forum by Bobrick · · Score: 1

      This thread is mindblowing. "Hey, I'm not hearing from you after investing 3000$, and I want to invest another thousand. How do I make this happen?" Who are those people? Nevermind, I don't care who they are, just give them my bank account info and tell 'em to send me all the money they want to invest in this nonsense. I'll make it happen, I swear!!1!

    6. Re:Link to BitcoinTalk forum by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      From that page:

      Lending: ... It is an impressive and already proofen concept ...

      --
      It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
    7. Re:Link to BitcoinTalk forum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posted by LoopX from the link:

        "This Software will give us all the opportunity to make more money online then we could ever do in real life."

      You can say that again.

    8. Re:Link to BitcoinTalk forum by cwatts · · Score: 1

      This prospectus looks like it was written by high school students:

      "It is an impressive and already proofen
      concept for passive investors and for those who want to enjoy a weekly passive income"

      Anyone who put any money into this is an idiot and deserves what they got. You can bet that money is being spent on weed and video games right now.

      I predict thy will finally get busted when someone recognizes the "PROOFEN' IT BABY" bumpersticker on mom's station wagon.

      --
      chris watts íë¦ìS ì(TM)ì
  7. Step Right Up! You Could Be A Winner! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

  8. Good by MrNJ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Stupidity should be painful

    --
    I don't respond to or upvote ACs
    1. Re:Good by jwhyche · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well what do you know. I was dead wrong. Someone is making money off this bitcoin thing.

      --
      I read at +2. If your post doesn't reach that level I will not see or respond to it.
    2. Re: Good by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      I made plenty. I just sold the shit when I noticed it had an absurd $16k price tag, and now some other hapless sap is holding that bag.

  9. ICOs by sexconker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Every single ICO is a scam. You're investing money into a a shitty alt coin or a shitty fake coin running on a shitty alt coin (Ethereum), with the promise that you can take the shitty alt coin or shitty fake coin and resell it to some other investor later down the line, exchange it for a decent coin, and then exchange it for regular currency.

    There's not even the pretense of investing in an actual platform or currency, you're investing on a do-nothing proxy built on top of one, and you're subject to the dangers of both.

    If the person running the ICO bolts, you're screwed.
    If the person running the ICO somehow isn't an outright scammer, but nonetheless fails to get their honest attempt at a project off the ground and into profitability, you're screwed.
    If the crypto currency the ICO is pegged to declines in value, the ICO itself has just declined in value (they keep their coins in the blockchain as a sign of good faith to potential investors - until they abscond / quit).
    If the crypto currency the ICO is pegged to increases in value, you've lost out on that increase since you traded one type of coin for a proxy running on top of it.
    If the ICO's coin never gets picked up by a major exchange, you won't every be able to profit from it even if you're way up on paper.
    If the ICO's coin or the crypto currency the ICO is pegged to get banned by governments, exchanges, or payment processors, you're screwed.

    1. Re:ICOs by asylumx · · Score: 1

      You're exactly right, except you called in 'investing' -- Most would call it 'speculating' at best.

    2. Re:ICOs by elcor · · Score: 1

      Most are scams, not all. For example there is this german company that makes deployable miners, and this AI company in taiwan.

    3. Re:ICOs by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Speculating seems too legitimate.

      This is like a self-aware group Ponzi scheme where everyone thinks they're early enough in the Ponzi to be one of the people who gets paid off.

    4. Re:ICOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the person running this isn't very good at security, they will get hacked, and you're screwed.

      The combination of honest, forward-thinking, hard-working, organized, business-savvy, and security-minded people that it would require to start up one of these business successfully is so mind-bogglingly rare that I think you would do better in investing in unicorn futures.

      By the way, did they ever figure out what the hell happened to Mt. Gox? If you don't know what Mt. Gox was, then you have really no place investing in this sort of thing

    5. Re:ICOs by sexconker · · Score: 2

      Mt. Gox was surely an inside job. They saw the $$$ and took the first excuse they could to bail with it.
      Last I heard, the Japanese authorities were going after the main guy running it. No idea what happened after that or what they may have charged him with.

    6. Re:ICOs by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      "But if all of that doesn't happen and the virtual currency takes off, I'll be a multi-millionaire!" - People who invest in ICO's despite repeated warnings.

      --
      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
    7. Re:ICOs by lgw · · Score: 1

      If you don't know what Mt. Gox was, then you have really no place investing in this sort of thing

      Magic the Gathering Online Exchange. Always seemed appropriate to me - it's tulips all the way down. Funny part is, Magic cards have proven to have more dependable lasting value than altcoins.

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    8. Re:ICOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bought into the Ethereum ICO for $2 a coin, doing pretty well at $900 a coin now...

    9. Re:ICOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dunning-Kreuger-Ponzi

    10. Re:ICOs by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Most of your points are true for an IPO, too.

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    11. Re:ICOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dunning-Kreuger-Ponzi

      Dunning-Kreuggerrands

  10. Words of wisdom from a successful ICO by kallisti5 · · Score: 1

    The only good ICO's are the ones that give a fixed group of people coins as an initial air-drop to bootstrap the ecosystem. Hold onto those "free" coins until they have value and the coin is tested for reliability. Once you feel comfortable with it a year or two later, then you can begin investing. Did this for Decred... no regrets.

  11. Unregulated Gambling strikes again. by Mr307 · · Score: 2

    Now this will of course push some activity back towards Bitcoin, but that 'coin' is completely useless for its stated purpose and is doomed to fail long term.

    1. Re:Unregulated Gambling strikes again. by Jfetjunky · · Score: 1

      Yup. You wanted unregulated, you got unregulated!

  12. Predictable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Seriously, how utterly, bafflingly, astonishingly, utterly astronomically dumb are you people? Everything about cryptocurrency is a total scam. EVERYTHING. Anyone who has had even glancing experience with investing could have seen the warning signs from a million miles away. The best part for me is how it has primarily affected "techno-libertarians". In 100 years this will all be the primary example used when people talk about the dunning-kruger effect.

    Cue the replies claiming they made money so it must be "legit". For you folks I'll just ask again: WHY ARE YOU SOOOOOOOO STUPID?

  13. PT Barnum Was Right by sycodon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is a reason the SEC exists...not that companies haven't pulled equally dishonest things under their watchful eye.

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    When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
    1. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by rudy_wayne · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Funniest part of this is someone posted on Reddit a month ago that they had been digging into this company and found a lot of red flags.

      A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted.

    2. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by rahvin112 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The coins might not be real money but the real money they handed over for coins certainly was.

    3. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by rahvin112 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The SEC was created precisely to combat the fake company offering that quickly went out of business and kept all the money scam. The laws put in place to stop this are extensive including a massive amount of paperwork that ties the real people behind everything to the offering so if it turns out to be a scam the SEC can go after them and put them in prison.

      Maybe at some point the SEC will have charge of crypto-currencies, but the funny thing is the same people getting ripped off will be against SEC regulation because it will add paperwork to the process.

      At some point you just have to accept that a fool and their money will soon be parted. You would think with all the offerings that turned out to be scams that people would be cautious but that doesn't appear to be the case.

    4. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...someone posted on Reddit a month ago that they had been digging into this company and found a lot of red flags.

      Right. Next time I consider an investment opportunity, my first question will be, "What does a random Reddit user recommend?"

    5. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The SEC is pointless. They don't enforce insider trading regs (hint... look how CEOs short their stock right before they announce their company got hacked). Even Sarbanes-Oxley has been worthless, only nailing a fisherman who overfished his bag limit.

      I don't see this changing anytime soon. It would be nice to actually have some defense against overt stock manipulation. However, at least with cryptocurrencies, they are completely, and 100% secure against that ever happening. No pump/dump there, nosiree...

    6. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fuck you. Make America Greedy Again(R).

    7. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's not a company. It's a scheme. There are no companies here. To sue them would be like suing a bank robber, or a crack dealer. There was absolutely nothing legitimate to base the operations on. It was 100% scam from the outset.

      But it's not like the victims are innocent. Even if they had managed to make money as part of this scheme, it would only have come from different victims.

      That's how pyramid schemes work.

    8. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Funny

      A random Reddit user recommended that I go fuck myself. I took matters into my own hands and I've got to tell you - I enjoyed it!

      --
      #DeleteFacebook
    9. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by whoever57 · · Score: 1

      People give money to already wealthy mega-churches and believe in Prosperity theology.

      Stupidity is everywhere, even amongst the wealthy.

      --
      The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
    10. Re: PT Barnum Was Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you should actually do exactly that- when you are about to invest, go check to see if any random reddit users have raised legit good points (with evidence).

      Or, you know, give your money to the next cryptoscam.

    11. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...someone posted on Reddit a month ago that they had been digging into this company and found a lot of red flags.

      Right. Next time I consider an investment opportunity, my first question will be, "What does a random Reddit user recommend?"

      If you're not going to do the due diligence yourself but are presented with evidence-based diligence does it really matter if that came from a Reddit user?

    12. Re: PT Barnum Was Right by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

      Interesting... Have you published a white paper on how such a feat might be accomplished?

    13. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because "the same people" are band-wagon jumpers and were just hoping to get rich passing along the rip-off-ness to OTHER fools. Obviously that's not a sustainable strategy.

    14. Re: PT Barnum Was Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    15. Re:PT Barnum Was Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The SEC is pointless. They don't enforce insider trading regs ...

      So your point is that SEC should be gotten rid off because it was not enforced by those who should be doing their work? I believe in fixing rather than taking an easy way out by dropping it all together. Just get them enforce what they create.

  14. Into the Black by nsuccorso · · Score: 2

    Things typically *appear* out of the blue. It would be more appropriate to say they disappeared into the black, if an idiom of that sort were necessary.
    At least the summary doesn't state that investors are "back at ground zero"!

  15. Imagine that, a Bitcoin scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I never would have thought. A bitcoin scam (wink).

  16. A fool and his money ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    This is getting hilarious.

    You wanted an unregulated currency, you got one.

    The things people have always said in support of cryptocurrency always rang like "we totally want an environment where people can rip you off because it's free from interference from the gummint".

    This is what that looks like.

    This is why regulations in the first place, because people are lying, cheating bastards and someone will always do this kind of stuff.

    Hell, that financial meltdown in 2008? Companies knowingly packaged together junk debt, got someone in on the scam to give it a AAA rating, and then sold it to other people who took that rating as real. The actual banking industry is full of crooks and thieves, the unregulated digital currency market even more so.

    1. Re:A fool and his money ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. People are EVIL greedy bastards. Adding the allure of an unregulated market with plenty of dumb rubes lining up to become the next BTC millionaire just triggers the worst instincts in people.

  17. Fiddle Sticks!!!! by mallyn · · Score: 1
    As my mom would say to me when I make a mistake in my homework . . . .

    'Oh, Fiddle Sticks!!!!'

    That's what I say to you all who put in CC into something that exists only in bits glowing on a boob tooob:

    Fiddle Sticks to you all!

    --
    Most Respectfully Yours Mark Allyn Bellingham, Washington
  18. Acronym Hilarity by TexasDiaz · · Score: 1, Informative

    I was reading the forum, and just couldn't stop giggling at the acronyms that probably should have sent red flags everywhere. Coin Type: Proof of Stake (PoS) - Yeah, everyone now knows it was a PoS. Coin Abbreviation: LPX (also Louisiana Pacific stock exchange ID) - Yeah, everyone got railroaded. And their "proofen concept" definitely proved they had what it takes. Or they now have what they took. Schmucks.

    1. Re:Acronym Hilarity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Errr... Proof of Work (PoW), Proof of Stake (PoS), Proof of Authority (PoA) are pretty common terms related to blockchain authentication mechanisms. Not exactly the hidden flag you seem to imagine.

    2. Re: Acronym Hilarity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Proof of Stale is 100% pyramid scheme though, unlike the others, which are only usually pyramid schemes.

    3. Re: Acronym Hilarity by michael_wojcik · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you can't trust Proof of Stale. There are some decent Proof of Fresh schemes, though.

      Personally I prefer Proof of Steak, but it has to be a decent cut. I'm not buyin' into any damn flank.

  19. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol cointards lol lol

  20. "About LoopX" (from the website) by neilo_1701D · · Score: 2

    The LoopX Team was formed in September 2016 of a core group of high performance professionals to build a new kind of trading software based on our own Loop-Algorithm. After testing our algorithm thoroughly over half a year with great profits continuously every month, we can now finally bring all this advantages of our LoopX – Trading Software to the public. We are here to help you make money in the emerging market of cryptocurrencies which is projected to grow up to 10 times the size of now until the next year. The LoopX System gives you guaranteed profits every week thanks to the most advanced Trading Software out there to date! We do not make daily payments since we consider that the margins are smaller. For us the priority is the safety of your investment. It took us little bit over a year to bring you the final product so you can benefit from the most advanced technology too.

    This is from Bing's cached page of their website.

    So honestly, if you read After testing our algorithm thoroughly over half a year with great profits continuously every month and didn't fall over laughing at the obvious Ponzi nature of the scheme, you kind of deserved what happened to you.

    1. Re:"About LoopX" (from the website) by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      This is from Bing's cached page of their website.

      So honestly, if you read After testing our algorithm thoroughly over half a year with great profits continuously every month and didn't fall over laughing at the obvious Ponzi nature of the scheme, you kind of deserved what happened to you.

      More to the point, if you have a system to guarantee profits you shut up and make money and don’t let anyone in. It’s like people who advertise a surefire way to make money in the stockmarket, the way to do that is to sell suckers your “system” and pocket their money.

      --
      I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
    2. Re:"About LoopX" (from the website) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly right. Had someone trying to sell me stock trading software. If it was as good as they said they would have no need to work a sales job pushing the software. I never trust anyone selling any type of retail investment.

    3. Re:"About LoopX" (from the website) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because the victims deserve to be ripped off, doesn't mean the scammer deserves to get rich.

  21. Why did they delete everything? by pots · · Score: 1

    Why did they get rid of their website and all of their accounts? What is the point in that? You're basically just telling everyone that you scammed them. Wouldn't it make more sense to just walk away and leave everything up, keep them guessing for a little while?

    1. Re:Why did they delete everything? by neilo_1701D · · Score: 1

      Why did they get rid of their website and all of their accounts?

      Because leaving the website up with a single word displayed had already been done?

  22. Re:first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    first to invest in the ico? certainly not post, this is way down the page sucka.

  23. This is what zero regulation gets you by ErichTheRed · · Score: 1

    There are _tons_ of stock and other investing scams that get carried out under the eyes of financial regulatory agencies...but you can bet there would be tons more if there were no regulation. You have to admit it's pretty brazen to just disappear with investors' money, not even pulling a Mt. Gox and claiming they were "hacked."

    I would imagine that most of the "investors" in this ICO either had tons of play-money Bitcoins they didn't care about losing, or were starry-eyed latecomers drawn in by the Bitcoin millionaire stories in the press. It sucks for both groups, but this is what bubbles and unregulated markets get you. Plenty of fraudsters exist in the stock market, but at least they have to follow some rules and make up a plausible scheme to take investors' money. ICOs where the founders disappear to some non-extradition country with millions of dollars and can't even get a slap on the wrist fine enforced on them are just licenses to steal.

  24. Not hard to find.... by s1d3track3D · · Score: 1

    They shouldn't be hard to find, they will be driving this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV...

  25. What a surprise. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A fool & his money are soon parted. "Coin offerings" scream "fools - shop here!".

  26. Re:Step Right Up! You Could Be A Winner! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Why are you talking about the olympic games?

    --
    #DeleteFacebook
  27. Cryptocurrencies are scam! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If so-called cryptocurrencies are really currency, why no company/store can use Bitcoin as currency anymore?
    Because the price of Bitcoin proved to be extremely unstable to use as a currency?
    Would the result be different, if Bitcoin replaced by any other "cryptocurrency"?
    Aren't all work the same way?

    Or, they are not actually virtual currency but virtual investment?
    But, if they are actually investment, why we need/want them?
    What would happen to world economy, if people invested in virtual investments, instead of real investments?

    Or, all so-called cryptocurrencies are actually just a modified (made decentralized and paying variable interest) Ponzi Schemes?
    (Price of cryptocurrencies would keep increasing in the long term (by their design), so it is equivalent of paying variable interest to all long term investors.)

    As more and more people invest in cryptocurrencies, it will become harder and harder to ban their trading everywhere!
    All cryptocurrencies need to be banned globally before it is too late!

  28. Re: PT Barnum Was Right (waaaaa...) by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 2

    The whole point of crypto currency is to evade the law. Being able to buy things online is just coincidental.

    All the people freaking out who lost a bunch of real, actual money and whining about it now were trying to MAKE money through speculation, meaning they wanted to GET more money than they had, without doing any actual work, for having loaned the crypto currency issuer some cash. This is really no different from putting it in a bank, except in this case the bank was promising return rates higher than (or at least different from and irrespective of the performance of) the rest of the market. They might accomplish this through lack of regulation of the nascent market, or by offering takers the additional perk of not having to report gains, facilitating the avoidance of taxes, judgements, liens, fines, etc. The downside to doing business with such a bank is the high risk that theyâ(TM)re not legitimate.

    I feel no pity for the crooks and would-be crooks, trying to get to have more money than they should by exploiting some thing or some one, who then in turn got exploited themselves, who got ripped off by other crooks it sounds like, in this case.

    --
    Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
  29. Idiots by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    Just a reminder, the other 99% of crypto enthusiasts know that all ICOs are scams. It's been called kickstarter with less accountability. Stupid people will throw their money away somehow, this is just how they chose.

    1. Re:Idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone who bought in knew it was a scam. Regular people have never even HEARD of "LoopX". They were just hoping the scammers were going to scam wave 2, leaving wave 1 some profit. Instead they settled for just scamming wave 1.

  30. How's life in the hypocrite lane?

  31. the first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    time anything's 'disappeared out of the blue'. Usually they Appear out of the blue and Disappear into thin air...