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Uber Will 'Invest Aggressively' In India And Southeast Asia, CEO Says (buzzfeed.com)

Pranav Dixit, writing for BuzzFeed News: Dara Khosrowshahi, Uber's CEO of six months, said on Thursday that the ride-hailing service would continue to invest aggressively in both Southeast Asia and India, where the company is losing money and faces strong competition from local players like Grab and Ola. Uber has been slow to expand its presence in India and Southeast Asia, allowing competitors to quickly gain ground. Singapore's Grab, for instance, claimed to have 95% of the country's ride-hailing market share last year. And Ola, Uber's Indian rival, currently operates in 110 cities against Uber's 29 cities. Ola does 1 billion rides annually, compared to Uber, which announced in mid-2017 that it completed 500 million total rides in the country in its first four years of operations. "We expect to lose money in Southeast Asia and expect to invest aggressively in terms of marketing, subsidies, etc.," Khosrowshahi told reporters in India, which is Uber's fastest-growing market outside the United States, and where he is currently on his first official tour. While Uber's India operation is not yet profitable, it does account for 10% of Uber's rides globally.

22 comments

  1. Just take your billion dollars and set it on fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That was exactly your game plan in China, and look what it got you. Nothing pleases me more than watching the froth of venture capital get sent down the drain.

  2. Invest or Bribe? by foxalopex · · Score: 1

    When you consider Uber's track record for all the shady / bad things they've done, does the CEO mean invest or break the law? Because with Uber, it's honestly hard to tell.

    1. Re:Invest or Bribe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you consider Uber's track record for all the shady / bad things they've done, does the CEO mean invest or break the law?

      Oh come on, the entire fucking business model is breaking the law, or at least loudly asserting how special and magical they are that the law doesn't apply to them.

      Why the hell should they stop now?

    2. Re:Invest or Bribe? by beep54 · · Score: 0

      This is SO why we need to vote, Democrats, stop being so damned lazy and get off your asses and vote. It is supremely important that you do so.

    3. Re:Invest or Bribe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shh! The grown ups are talking about Uber, not Trump.

    4. Re:Invest or Bribe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am a registered Democrat. How the fuck am I supposed to vote in India or SE Asia?

    5. Re:Invest or Bribe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      India should kick Uber out on its fat ass. The Uber drivers I saw recently were total shite when compared to Ola. One Uber driver didn't even know the way from my Hotel to the Airport. I won't use Uber again anywhere.

    6. Re: Invest or Bribe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because bigoted capitalist dogs are so much better than regular capitalist dogs...

  3. Re:Just take your billion dollars and set it on fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The dude could at least blow the cash at home rather than ship it all overseas.

  4. How many boat rides did it serve? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    1 billion taxi rides here, half a billion there... who cares?

    Ola has already expanded into boat ride hailing business, Can Uber match it?

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  5. Putt putt putt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Putt putt putt putt putt putt putt putt putt is that the engine misfiring or the driver talking?

  6. Minimum distance by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    How much to the nearest dedicated shitting street?

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  7. Misinformation a specialty over at Uber by Drunkulus · · Score: 2

    Aggressive investment in India, where the company is losing money? That's hilarious, as though there is a magical place somewhere that Uber doesn't lose money!

  8. Wait a minute by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    They said they intend to undercut the competition by selling their services at a loss to put the other companies out of business?

    Isn't that illegal anti-competitive behaviour? aka "dumping" and "predatory pricing". Predatory pricing is illegal in India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    1. Re:Wait a minute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They said they intend to undercut the competition by selling their services at a loss...

      But they'll make it up in volume! :p

  9. I doubt this will work by Barnoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Taxi fares in Asia in general, maybe with the exception of Japan, are already rather cheap and there is plenty of them on the roads.

    I doubt that Uber will be able to generate anything else than additional losses.

  10. Re:Just take your billion dollars and set it on fi by jrumney · · Score: 1

    What is really strange was there was an announcement a week ago that Uber was giving up on SE Asia and planning on selling their operations there to Grab in exchange for shares in Grab. Now this about turn. I suspect there are factions within Uber's boardroom that cannot agree on their strategy here, so the CEO going around making premature public statements probably isn't a great idea. Or maybe Grab rightly turned down the offer of a failed portion of Uber in return for significant shareholding.

  11. Markets by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Being cheap is only one of the attractive point of Uber's service.
    The other is ease of use.

    In markets where Taxi are already cheap, Uber won't trying to compete on the price.
    They'll try to compete on the convenience (an app on your smartphone in your pocket, that makes hailing a vehicle easy, makes the payment automatic, etc.)

    So their primary competition in these market arent' the local Taxis.
    But the local ride sharing apps (TFS mentions Ola and Grab) and the various "automatically pay with your phone" solution (I would suspect that Alipay should have some solution fitting similar usecases).

    That doesn't mean Uber will succeed.
    Only that the specific price of Taxi in that region isn't relevant for the peculiar struggles of Uber in that market.

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    1. Re:Markets by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Being cheap is only one of the attractive point of Uber's service.
      The other is ease of use.

      Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

      /takes breath

      Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

      How cute. Uber's only attractive point was being cheaper than regulated taxi services. Their next most attractive point was an irrational hatred of taxi services because of high prices.

      Uber only achieved lower prices because they ignored the regulations of the taxi industry. Seeing as you clearly dont know much about South East Asia let me hit you with the clue by four.

      The market is pretty much unregulated as it is. They have to pay protection money to the police and city hall... then that's it. Taxi's also have turf wars, so Uber drivers will be dragged out of their cars and beaten for picking up in another gangs territory (this is the reason we had to regulate taxis in western nations). Uber is doomed to fail here because they have no idea what is actually going on... which is par for the course as far as Uber is concerned.

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  12. I'm traveling in Hyderabad right now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm in Hyderabad right now. Business trip. Have been using Uber and the estimated arrival times are very bad. There is also a whole sub-class you can travel with on Uber where you get on the back of a moped. And no passenger helmets required in India to travel on the back of a motor bike. I'm not chancing it. It is extremely extremely cheap though.

  13. "Investment" accordign to Uber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We expect to lose money in Southeast Asia and expect to invest aggressively in terms of marketing, subsidies, etc.,

    So they are basically saying "We are going to spend lots of money to let everyone know we are paying for their rides".

    I mean how is that an investment exactly? What's the usual rate of return on burned money?