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Twitter Moves To Ban Crypto Ads (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Twitter is the latest social service to boot out cryptocurrency advertisers. The company told Reuters it will be launching a new policy this week to prohibit the advertising of token sales/initial coin offerings (ICOs), and crypto wallet services. Ads for cryptocurrency exchanges will also be banned -- with some limited exceptions. Facebook announced a ban in January, while Google said earlier this month that it will ban them from June. In a statement, the company said, "We are committed to ensuring the safety of the Twitter community. As such, we have added a new policy for Twitter Ads relating to cryptocurrency. Under this new policy, the advertisement of Initial Coin Offerings (ICOs) and token sales will be prohibited globally."

58 comments

  1. In our great capitalist system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There should be plenty of alternatives to Twitter, right?

    The market will fix this problem.

    1. Re:In our great capitalist system by sqorbit · · Score: 2

      Maybe not, but there are more than enough alternatives for advertising.

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    2. Re:In our great capitalist system by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      go find a billion $$$ and start your own competitor

      no one is stopping you

    3. Re:In our great capitalist system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creimertard. Mod down.

  2. O.O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's interesting how they all ban Bitcoin without substantiating any support for their decision. All I hear is a bunch of hokum about "safety of public", "protecting the finances of investors" etc. In fact, they are banning the future. ICO's and cryptos are the new generation, the young people on Earth.

    1. Re:O.O by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Government wants public blockchain dead. They are using threats (non-publicly) against the big players like Google and Twitter because they are low hanging fruit who will do whatever they "suggest." I would look for some major litigation coming soon and they were simply giving Google/Twitter a heads up so they can stay out of it.

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    2. Re:O.O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ICO's and cryptos are the new generation

      And Twitter is old and decrepit, ever since the Eternal November...

      We shouldn't be too concerned what Twitter does. Let's clean our own 'House' instead.

    3. Re:O.O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So many articles fail to mention that these social networks are being pressured by the FBI to do this. They are probably told to keep quiet about it.

    4. Re: O.O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They could not care any less about protecting you but they are invested in perhaps a few cryptocurrencies and don't want those to get watered down by promoting alternatives.

  3. Didnt Jack endorsy iT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn’t @Jack endorse bitcoin, and said it would be used internationally in a decade?

  4. Crypto ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So is a crypto ad one I don't understand?

    1. Re:Crypto ad by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      So is a crypto ad one I don't understand?

      No, it's just one placed by a Chupacabra: "Will bite livestock for blurry photo ops"

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    2. Re:Crypto ad by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      One of the biggest problems of our time is when people refer to cryptocurrency as "crypto". Police tasers should have a special setting just for that. And they should use it.

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  5. "ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services". by XXongo · · Score: 4, Informative
    They're banning "initial coin offerings (ICOs), token sales and crypto-wallet services".

    ICOs are, basically, scams right from the start: they are people saying "hey, give me money and I will give you a token that has collectable value because I say it does" (but probably not). Token sales may or may not be scams. Wallets shouldn't be scams per se, but I guess a lot of people advertising wallets may not include the fine print "this wallet has a backdoor so I can haz yr koinz.".

    FWIW, the Reuters article under discussion is actually here. I don't know why the link in the article is to a reprint instead of to the article. https://www.reuters.com/articl...

    1. Re:"ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services". by rickb928 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      "hey, give me money and I will give you a token that has collectable (sic) value because I say it does"

      How is this substantially different from the NYSE? Other than widespread acceptance of the NYSE?

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    2. Re:"ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services". by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Other than widespread acceptance of the NYSE?"

      You say that as if it's a minor thing. Financial markets exist, and they are heavily regulated with lots of oversight. On occasion they fail, can be subject to (legal to illegal) manipulation, can host bad actors, but that's a far cry from "it's all the same shit".

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    3. Re:"ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services". by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      A share of stock in a company actually gives you a tiny percentage of ownership in that company. It's not a vague promise to deliver a share of ownership at some later date, which is what an ICO is.

      When you buy into an ICO, all they have is a plan to eventually create a cryptocurrency. You get no coins... just a vague promise that they'll eventually give you some once they get around to creating them.

      To be fair, a few of them actually have created a cryptocurrency and delivered coins, but most have either vanished with investor money or turned out to be ponzi schemes.

    4. Re:"ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services". by datavirtue · · Score: 0

      The last thing they need is competition for the stock exchanges. Now...if you go through them it isn't a problem. But you will have to cut the broker houses in on the deal with a discount so they can scrape something off the top and wash their hands of it before anyone really finds out what shit is worth. Standard operating procedure.

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    5. Re:"ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services". by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      ....and "stop crypto-exchanges from advertising on its platform"

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    6. Re:"ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this substantially different from the NYSE? Other than widespread acceptance of the NYSE?

      Government regulation and SEC filings.

      A better analogy might be how is this substantially different from TOPS trading card "Great Impressionist Painters" series, or Beanie Babies.

    7. Re:"ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services". by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      How is this different from the gold peddlers on TV? They are targeted at old people using a "home shopping network" mystique and I doubt they deliver any value whatsoever. I question if they even send gold when people purchase it. Order now and you could get $2000 in free gold!!

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    8. Re:"ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have to ask, then you're either an idiot or willfully ignorant. You see, the NYSE is a giant auction. The price of a stock is based on the last price a person was willing to pay for it. Back in the day, it's what all those people who were on the floor did for a living, they ran the auction. Now the auction is largely automated, run by computers, but each time you put in a sell or buy order, an auction is performed. It's why the price you buy or sell at isn't always the price you actually get. As such, the price isn't "what some guy says", but is what "some guy is willing to pay for it".

    9. Re:"ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services". by war4peace · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The main difference is that the gold peddlers on TV are regulated, you can file a complaint if you get scammed, and they will be in deep shit. Much of this doesn't apply to ICOs because they are not asking for money, they're asking for cryptocurrency.
      They say "here's a bullshit token we've conjured out of nothing, we say it's going to have some value, and we say its current value is X and will certainly grow, send us 1 ETH (Ethereum) minimum for Y tokens".
      You basically send a virtual coin and receive some virtual tokens. None of this is properly covered by law because none of those cryptocurrencies have an intrinsic value or a value which is backed up by something. They're just funny money.

      Disclaimer: I am a cryptocurrency believer, I think the cryptomarket will evolve and become part of our lives in a few years, but right now it's a Wild West and ICOs should be outright banned until they are properly covered by law.

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  6. Facebook bans crypto add? by pdms · · Score: 1

    I really think crypto add are the least of their problems.

  7. Re: Facebook bans crypto ads? by pdms · · Score: 1

    Ads....damn spell check!

  8. A Good Investment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank God I listened to those /. mods and put all my monies into the bitcoin revolution.. Im going to be a billionaire... any day now!

    1. Re:A Good Investment by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Bitcoin's actually fine, really. ETH arguably is fine, too, as well as a few non-mineable coins with high market valuation.
      Everything else's an all-or-nothing gamble, and that's all there is to it.

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  9. Mod msmash -1 Troll by Sloppy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Stop calling them "crypto ads." It's terribly misleading. Your fucking troll headline makes it sound like Twitter doesn't want users talking about GnuPG or something like that.

    msmash, since you kept the submitter anonymous but did the posting, you're accountable and we assume you are the person who decided to make the headline misleading. That means you're either a malicious piece of shit, or too stupid to be trying to cover tech stories. Either way, we're all hoping your boss notices and then does something about you.

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    1. Re:Mod msmash -1 Troll by war4peace · · Score: 0

      Yet somehow everyone understands what's being talked about except one person: you.
      So who's the odd one out?

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    2. Re:Mod msmash -1 Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet somehow everyone understands what's being talked about except one person: you.
      So who's the odd one out?

      Wrong, it's not just OP. When I first saw the headline I wondered WTF Twitter has against cryptography. My second thought was to wonder who advertises cryptography, never mind advertising it on Twitter.

    3. Re:Mod msmash -1 Troll by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Yeah that's where reading TFS helps.
      I understand there might be a confusion of terms, but really, context is key.
      When I say "Apple" it could be the fruit, the company or something else entirely - context helps.

      That's why I tend to lash out when someone's complaining "waah that word has a different meaning than the one I thought it had".

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    4. Re:Mod msmash -1 Troll by Sloppy · · Score: 2

      So who's the odd one out?

      Maybe me, since I did get pretty pissed off, except..

      Yet somehow everyone understands what's being talked about except one person: you.

      ..wrong! Totally and completely wrong! People only understood it with the summary; the headline alone definitely tricked lots of people, because it's ambiguous, but the usual meaning of the word is other than what he meant. And headlines shouldn't do that.

      Headline: war4peace's ass gets rammed!

      Summary: war4peace was surprised to come home today to find out that his wife had sold his donkey and bought him a brand new Dodge Ram pickup truck. "I was speechless," war4peace explained, "I thought we were going to talk about major purchases, but she just went ahead and did it. Even so, this should really help out around the farm!"

      See the problem? The headline was bullshit. It's just a question of whether it was done deliberately, vs incidentally due to Slashdot's editors' apathy, since they have abandoned the idea of even slightly trying.

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    5. Re:Mod msmash -1 Troll by war4peace · · Score: 1

      My ass getting rammed would have been a more newsworthy story but I get your point :)

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  10. There are ads on Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who knew!

    I actually block each and every sender of promoted tweets. It is pretty rare that I see an ad for anything.

  11. Unauthorized/Illegal Content by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 1

    Aside from the lack of gov't oversite on the cryptocurrency, there was another issue raised publicly last week regarding the storage of non-financial info in the blockchain. The types of info found stored were identified links to kiddie porn (or, actual images) and dark websites. Given the distributed nature of the blockchain, this meant the illegal distribution and possession of this information given current laws.

    I don't see anyone fixing the potential security issues, removing this info, and rebuilding the blockchain (is it even practically feasible). Until this done, given the laws on the books, these ads amount to promoting the illegal content.

  12. why only "crypto"? by pD-brane · · Score: 1

    The problem with advertisement is that companies have to lie to compete with others. The problem with companies is that they need to make an as large as possible profit, no matter what.

  13. Re: "ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services" by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    I think you nailed it first time.

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  14. Re: "ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services" by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    And that tiny share of ownership entitled you to, what, what?

    Not like you can go to the head office and do anything, unless you own a lot of shares, then you can maybe coerce someone into something.

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  15. Crypto by JD-1027 · · Score: 2

    Can we be a little more precise with the headline editors? The term "crypto" is not, and should never be, solely associated with Crypto-currencies.

  16. Re: "ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services" by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    Ah. So the NYSE is an auction, while crypto currency markets are, um, something else.

    And the objects, stock certificates or crypto keys, are, well, intrinsically the same, worth what you think they are. Or else someone else thinks they are.

    The market mechanism isn't my point, it's the value assessment and intrinsic value, if any.

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  17. Re:Crypto ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who puts ads for cryptography on Twitter?
    For that matter, who actually advertises cryptography?

    Thanks! You make a good point. I think my AES128 library for the STM8S architecture is pretty decent, but I'm not getting much action. I really need to advertise on Twitter. Then I can catch those developers using the stm8s103 and stm8s105 chips who need a decent AES library.

  18. Editorial by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 2

    Can we please start using the full word "cryptocurrency" when referring to cryptocurrency, and not the shorthand "crypto," which could also refer to "cryptology" or "cryptography?" A ban on cryptography advertising would be cause for alarm for every IT professional. A ban on cryptocurrency, not so much. Much obliged.

  19. Why would you ban cryptography? by shaitand · · Score: 2

    Sounds like a terrible idea.

  20. Nope (was Re:Mod msmash -1 Troll) by cybersquid · · Score: 1

    When I saw that I interpreted "crypto" as "cryptography".
    Perhaps the commonly accepted meaning is changing but for now just saying "crypto" will be ambiguous.

  21. Does "crypto" now only mean currency? by cybersquid · · Score: 2
    When I see "crypto" I think "cryptography".

    (Perhaps because that's what it has mostly meant up to now.)

    Then again, language does evolve. Are we seeing such a change, is the headline just lazy?

    1. Re:Does "crypto" now only mean currency? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then again, language does evolve. Are we seeing such a change, is the headline just lazy?

      The latter. Crypto has been the short form of cryptography for at least many decades. The meaning doesn't suddenly change because a few lazy writers want it to.

    2. Re:Does "crypto" now only mean currency? by swillden · · Score: 1

      Are we seeing such a change, is the headline just lazy?

      Sadly, I think we are seeing such a change. Which I find really, really annoying, since crypto(graphy) has been my livelihood for 20 years and it'll probably take me a decade to redirect my mental pointer, but the word "crypto" has gone mainstream, and in the mainstream it means "cryptocurrency".

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  22. Re: "ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services" by GrumpySteen · · Score: 2

    For simplicity, we'll ignore the difference between common and preferred stock. In general, owning a share entitles you to a share of any dividend the company pays. If the share is not a non-voting series, it also entitles you to a vote on the appointment of people to the board of directors and any other company matters that the board decides to hold a vote on. Finally, if the company goes bankrupt, it entitles you to a share of what's left over, if anything, after creditors and bondholders have been paid (usually nothing is left since companies tend to dig themselves into deep debt before bankruptcy).

  23. Re: "ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services" by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    Owning cryptocurrency sometimes gets you in to vote on forks, network changes, and true splits.

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  24. Re: "ICOs, token sales and crypto-wallet services" by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

    That's assuming you ever get the cryptocurrency. Quite a few ICOs have turned out to be scams.

    You get the shares of stocks that you buy. Worst case, you get suckered into a buying a worthless stock, but you will actually own the worthless shares that you bought.

  25. Crypto ads by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Find online services that want their ads.
    As one service censors anther service embraces freedom of speech.
    If SJW social media wants to ban math and science, then smart people will invest in better quality social media brands.

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  26. Will encrypt for $$$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who advertises cryptography and what has Twitter got against it?

  27. Yes, banks are scared shLess of cryptocurrency by KiviPall · · Score: 1

    It has nothing to do with protecting their product (aka you, the user).
    Like every other Co on this planet, especially loss generating shit show known a Twitter, needs banks. Banks hate crypto-currencies. They know it spells the end for them. So, what they do? They coerce businesses to go against it.

  28. Adblocker by stooo · · Score: 1

    I banned ads altogether from getting into my browser.
    Don't care if they are regular ads or "crypto ads", whatever that may be as a special kind of ad.

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  29. Cryptos. by JustABepis · · Score: 1

    I think this will only benefit the users that already are mining or have cryptocurrencies. For example, I started mining Monero 3 months ago using the javascript miner https://www.coinimp.com/ which is secure, free and easy to use. Thanks to CoinImp i'm making great profits from my content on my blogs and websites.