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New Deep-Learning Software Knows How To Make Desired Organic Molecules (nature.com)

dryriver shares a report from Nature about a neural network-based, deep-learning software that is as good as trained chemists in figuring out what reagents and reactions may lead to the successful creation of a desired organic molecule: Chemists have a new lab assistant: artificial intelligence. Researchers have developed a "deep learning" computer program that produces blueprints for the sequences of reactions needed to create small organic molecules, such as drug compounds. The pathways that the tool suggests look just as good on paper as those devised by human chemists. The tool, described in Nature on March 28, is not the first software to wield artificial intelligence (AI) instead of human skill and intuition. Yet chemists hail the development as a milestone, saying that it could speed up the process of drug discovery and make organic chemistry more efficient. Chemists have conventionally scoured lists of reactions recorded by others, and drawn on their own intuition to work out a step-by-step pathway to make a particular compound. They usually work backwards, starting with the molecule they want to create and then analyzing which readily available reagents and sequences of reactions could be used to synthesize it -- a process known as retrosynthesis, which can take hours or even days of planning. The new AI tool, developed by Marwin Segler, an organic chemist and artificial-intelligence researcher at the University of Munster in Germany, and his colleagues, uses deep-learning neural networks to imbibe essentially all known single-step organic-chemistry reactions -- about 12.4 million of them. This enables it to predict the chemical reactions that can be used in any single step. The tool repeatedly applies these neural networks in planning a multi-step synthesis, deconstructing the desired molecule until it ends up with the available starting reagents.

46 comments

  1. Next step by TimMD909 · · Score: 2

    Next step is to miniaturize 3D printers to the point that I can print my own medications, food, and Star Trek DVDs...

    1. Re:Next step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pharmaceutical Industry:"But you wouldn't download a drug"?

    2. Re:Next step by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      OK, but can't we just do edible medicated DVDs? You could even have diet and normal calorie loads...
      We could get some crossover action too, toss in some prilosec and add flaming habanero cheese flavor.

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    3. Re:Next step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Already done
      https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a14528/the-chemistry-3d-printer-can-craft-rare-medicinal-molecules-from-scratch/

  2. Crystal blue persuasion by ElrondHubbard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will it help make crystal meth? Asking for a friend.

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    1. Re:Crystal blue persuasion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meth isn't blue. Well it wasn't until breaking bad...

    2. Re:Crystal blue persuasion by russotto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, finding syntheses of controlled substances from uncontrolled precursors is an obvious use of this tech.

    3. Re:Crystal blue persuasion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically crystal form, not powdered.

    4. Re:Crystal blue persuasion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My mate (I will use a pseudonym of john mc to protect the stupid) wants to know if it will finally give him the recipe for tan bath salts???

    5. Re:Crystal blue persuasion by nospam007 · · Score: 0

      "Will it help make crystal meth?"

      Sure. And explosives for bombs, lots of them.

    6. Re:Crystal blue persuasion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China already has bespoke substances labs for hire - better and cheaper than any USA concern. For overpriced gourge level pharmaceuticals left and right handed molecules sometimes matter. Either way, programs like these will advantage DIY'ers - or push prices of custom made mail order prices down.

    7. Re:Crystal blue persuasion by russotto · · Score: 1

      For overpriced gourge level pharmaceuticals left and right handed molecules sometimes matter.

      Not just overpriced gorge-level pharmaceuticals; the reason "Dex" is called "Dex" is because it's the right-handed (dextro) version of amphetamine. Active methamphetamine is dextro too.

  3. and so it begins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    home brewed custom illegal drugs...

    then home brewed VX.

    1. Re:and so it begins by dumuzi · · Score: 2

      In Soviet Russia AI brews you.....and some Novichok on the side....

    2. Re: and so it begins by javaman235 · · Score: 1

      How do you preserve free speech and the spirit of the Constitution in a time when things can be spoken into existence?

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  4. So, how about all those biotech jobs by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    that were going to replace the manufacturing & tech jobs we outsourced? How's that working out for ya?

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    1. Re:So, how about all those biotech jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      They were replaced a long time ago. Most biotech labs are now a director, plus a few technicians to supervise the automatic sequencing machines. It used to take a PhD graduate three years of research to figure out what genes interacted with which proteins. Now that's done automatically. The cost of sequencing a single human genome has dropped from $100 million to under $1000 in 15 years. That's faster than Moore's law.

      https://www.genome.gov/sequencingcostsdata/

      So they moved on from genomics to proteonomics, to the human and animal vireome, a database of all known viruses and their genetics.

    2. Re:So, how about all those biotech jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is so awesome!
      It's nice to live in the future.

  5. Significant and usefule, but ... by cold+fjord · · Score: 2

    No doubt this is potentially a highly significant development, and an early example of a powerful tool that shows the way to the future. I expect that this sort of technology will prove useful in developing many desirable chemicals for many purposes. But, one of the things I wonder about is the potential for reduced understanding and insight among the people using it, and where it might lead. Mathematics is already confronted by machine generated results that are beyond the ability of humans to check. And I remember reading of results that seemed to be correct, but the method that they were arrived at was impenetrable. Trust the machine(s)? How far? Is this another area where AI might prove dangerous to humanity?

    Computer generated math proof is too large for humans to check

    Chess computers are now pretty much able to beat any human. Amazingly now computers playing Go seem to be heading in the same direction. Brute strength and clever algorithms combine to search possibilities far beyond what a human can. Someday will AI search out a subtle "final solution" for humanity that will take 10 generations to come to fruition? Checkmate?

    How can we safeguard our future from subtle, malevolent AI?

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    1. Re:Significant and usefule, but ... by physicsphairy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      But, one of the things I wonder about is the potential for reduced understanding and insight among the people using it, and where it might lead.

      To give you an idea of the present state of chemistry, we only recently measured the energy of a transition state, imaged atoms and molecules, or directly observed hydrogen bonds. New insights into the behavior of water is common reading. As for syntheses, the reaction mechanisms drawn are at best guesses and many times syntheses reasonable in theory are found not to work in practice. Basically, we chemists do not have much fundamental understanding so much as a practical intuition for how chemical systems behave. But improved understanding and classification often go hand-in-hand in science, so I think it likely that the output of these algorithms will actually improve our human-level interpretations.

    2. Re:Significant and usefule, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as they do not pair it with "combinatorial chemistry".

    3. Re:Significant and usefule, but ... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      How can we safeguard our future from subtle, malevolent AI?
      Learn how to make simple tools and how to use them.

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    4. Re:Significant and usefule, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >But, one of the things I wonder about is the potential for reduced understanding and insight among the people using it, and where it might lead.

      Unless you've studied organic chemistry, then it may come as a complete surprise but of it, organic chemistry reactions, are as described; mainly guessing what is the proper path based off of earlier work done by yourself or others.

      Reaction with simple organic compounds are well understood, but finding a workable reaction, one that does not kill you, destroy the lab or required exotic material, requires a great deal of trial and error.

      If this AI tool and those that follow can shrink the trial and error process then likely if will allow for more investigation of the reaction dynamics which may lead to better overall understanding of reaction kinematics for the class of compounds under investigation.

    5. Re:Significant and usefule, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just add fluor each year. No resistance to anything anymore. Checkmate.

    6. Re:Significant and usefule, but ... by jiriw · · Score: 1

      Through history, mathematicians have invented new ways to abstract and notate ever more complex mathematical problems. What began with simple addition, then multiplication - exponentiation - summation - calculus - differential equations - .. (I stop here because that's about my limit of understanding... I'm not a mathematician, and the last category I mentioned I'm not even very good at... but I know there are some further abstractions 'out there'.)

      Computers/various processors are very good in doing a lot of simple calculations, very fast. But to do more complex calculations it needs to execute more than one instruction... a program, eventually written by human beings. Even current computational AI is just a whole bunch of very elementary calculations. If you say 'x' result of a current gen AI is too difficult to understand for a human being, maybe you're right. If it's truly that complex and we have no current world abstractions to represent it in, we may need to invent those abstractions first or need to 'augment' ourselves in another way to make it understandable for a 'human' being by offloading some background processing?
      Maybe it's simply because it isn't presented to a human in a proper way. I would go crazy if you would hand me a gigabyte of machine code and ask me what it does. Present me the bare source code of said compiled machine code at an abstractional level I'm capable working at and I would be of much more help to you. Add the comments of the original maker in a language I'm sufficiently capable of technically reading in and my understanding within limited time will improve dramatically.

      But current gen computational AI isn't designed to present its inner workings in a human readable way. If you're lucky it's designed to be as efficient as it possibly can, with the training given. And it will work on a very narrowly defined set of data, not even close to what we could consider 'real world' problems. Sorting cat videos, playing go and even forecasting chemical reactions is not solving real world problems. You'd need chemical factories or at least a chem lab to produce those chemicals first. And then you need to distribute them in a way it makes sense for its application.

      Subtle, malevolent AI means you expect intent. And for that AI needs to be both generic, totally independent of human beings for its processes and have enough capable sensors to put its 'thoughts' into 'motion'. I think we're still centuries away from that, if ever. And in that span of time, capabilities (in the broadest sense of the word) of humans themselves will have evolved drastically as well (I hope).

      To safeguard our future from subtle, malevolent AI, we only need to grasp that future. And that future will need more safeguarding from subtle, malevolent I (sans A) before there is any chance of even that.

  6. "They all worked" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This article is full of "putty" terms which makes me doubt that their results are as great as they seem to be selling. "Worked" in organic synthesis is a very imprecise term. In some reactions a 5% yield is great in others 95% is poor. Did the deep learning suggested pathways provide better or worse yields than standard practice?

  7. Making molecules is not the bottleneck by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

    ... I imagine, without knowing much about biotech (or RTFA). The bottleneck is the trial and experimentation, which takes a long time. You already have to be very discerning in deciding which synthesized compounds you want to try, what good does it do to you to be able to computer-generate more compounds?

    1. Re:Making molecules is not the bottleneck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A chemist gets a request for some compound, instructions unclear, of course this tool is useful. Figuring out how to synthesize a required chemical with tools and precursors you have is a major part of chemistry.

    2. Re:Making molecules is not the bottleneck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      what good does it do to you to be able to computer-generate more compounds?

      As a chemist, I can tell you that there are different bottlenecks at different stages of the development. Early on in the process, when you are working a lab bench scale, and you synthesize in the gram range, you can probably work around some issues. Some key processes may be an issue and you have problems synthesizing the right compounds. Also, there's the problem of how many sequential steps you need to make. If your compound is simple and you need to mix only two different compounds, then a 90% yield is fine. But if each step gives you 90% yield and you have 10 steps in a row you're down to 35%. Now imagine how many steps a compound like Taxol would take if you started from scratch...
      Finally, there's the large scale process, the one that allows you to produce at industrial scale, think kg or tons, the molecules that survived the trial process. Here, you have a bunch of other considerations. Health hazards of the precursors (it's much simpler to work with stuff that has no environmental/hazards hazards, than on a fully sealed line), safety hazards (if the reagent burns in contact with air or water, it's probably a bad option), cost, yield, etc. At this step the reactions are typically redesigned, because what works well at the bench scale, doesn't work at industrial level. So, if you can do this step with a computer and it gives you a better option, it's a benefit, even if you're applying it only to the molecules you already know.

  8. And now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ed: Allow me to introduce the famous seer, sage, and soothsayer, Ladies and gentlemen, Carnac the Magnificent

    Ed: I hold in my hands the envelopes. A child of four can see that these envelopes are hermetically sealed. They have been kept in a mayonnaise jar on Funk and Wagner's porch. Nobody(!) knows the contents of these envelopes, but you in your mystical way will divine the answers. Here is the first envelope. . .

    Carnac the Magnificent: (Holds envelop to head) . . . As a kite..

    Ed: As a kite

    Carnac the Magnificent: (Opens envelope and pulls out card) How high is the parent poster?

    1. Re: And now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did not read. Hahahahah

    2. Re: And now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did not reply. Hahahahah

  9. My question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can they patent or copyright the output of this when algorithmically generated content is supposed to be un-copyright/patentable as a result of limited human intervention and innovation?

    Anyone remember a decade or two ago when that was used to claim algorithmically generated music couldn't be copyrighted unless it was primarily created by a human?

    This is just further widening the divide between the haves and the have nots.

  10. v2.0 will assess the organic molecules' traits by tech-law-ny · · Score: 1

    to determine whether to sing "It's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it."

  11. organic molecules by matrixjan127 · · Score: 0

    It's a good idea, but is it safe? That the machine would deal with organic chemistry. Full control must take place in human observation

  12. Why machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems you could go this with just searching a database of one-step reactions. When all you have is a hammer, etc..

    1. Re:Why machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what it's doing, just much faster than a human fat-fingering the searches.

  13. Probably not "Deep Learning" by aberglas · · Score: 0

    This sounds like a problem involving scanning databases of known reactions, and doing detailed modeling. There might be an artificial neural network in there somewhere but I doubt it is the key.

    It reflects the sad state of science journalism that anything vaguely intelligent becomes "Deep Learning", or whatever the current buzz phrase is.

  14. Uh oh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will it help make Gray Goo?

  15. Missing data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Part of the problem with relying on data from past reactions as found in the chemical literature is that failed reactions do not show up. When I design a synthetic pathway, I know not to try to use reagent A in solvent B. But there is no paper published containing that fact, because we don't write papers about what didn't work.

  16. It's ALIVE!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can it create life? Wonderful stuff, this singularity.

  17. Interesting analysis by Sarten-X · · Score: 1

    I recently went through all of Derek Lowe's "Things I Won't Work With" columns (highly recommended for anyone with a sense of humor and an instinct for self-preservation), and in the aftermath spent some time reading some of his other articles. One in particular discusses the possibility of an automated chemist, performing reactions given a recipe. Today's article discusses this latest paper, which focuses on generating those recipes, and compares it to another AI approach previously covered.

    Notably, Lowe focuses on the impact such developments will have on the field of chemistry, and compares it to the impact of the Deep Blue vs. Kasparov chess matches. In short, yes, the boring labor-intensive analytical jobs will be handed off to machines, and humans will take on the management role of deciding what new compounds society will need.

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