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Chinese Space Station Burns Up On Re-entry in South Pacific (reviewjournal.com)

cold fjord writes: Chinese space authorities say the defunct Tiangong 1 space station mostly burned up on re-entry into the atmosphere over the central South Pacific. The China Manned Space Engineering Office said the experimental space laboratory re-entered around 8:15 a.m. Monday. Scientists monitoring the craft's disintegrating orbit had forecast the craft would mostly burn up and would pose only the slightest of risks to people. Analysis from the Beijing Aerospace Control Center showed it had mostly burned up. Launched in 2011, Tiangong 1 was China's first space station, serving as an experimental platform for bigger projects, such as the Tiangong 2 launched in September 2016 and a future permanent Chinese space station. Two crews of Chinese astronauts lived on the station while testing docking procedures and other operations. Its last crew departed in 2013 and contact with it was cut in 2016.

54 comments

  1. Lucky as expected. by Thimma · · Score: 1

    Good that it was like skylab no harm to anyone.

    1. Re: Lucky as expected. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But now the super virus has been released upon the world! [Maniacal laugh]

    2. Re:Lucky as expected. by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "Not even "lucky", harming someone would have been very unlucky."

      Depends. Some people would have liked being killed by a toilet seat from space, because they would get post-its from Inigo Montoya.

    3. Re:Lucky as expected. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever, the movie still sucked.

    4. Re:Lucky as expected. by XXongo · · Score: 2
      Yes, we tend to forget that most of the world is ocean, and most of the ocean is "the middle of the Pacific far from anywhere".

      And, even beyond that, really most of the world that isn't ocean is uninhabited desert or scrubland or tundra.

      Hitting a place that has people when you have an object hitting the Earth untargetted is actually quite unlikely.

    5. Re:Lucky as expected. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that's the case, why is there a big fuss about it in the first place?

    6. Re:Lucky as expected. by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Because people are TERRIBLE at assessing risk. People probably felt pangs of fear while hearing the news reports in their car, completely oblivious to the irony.

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    7. Re:Lucky as expected. by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Because people are TERRIBLE at assessing risk. People probably felt pangs of fear while hearing the news reports in their car, completely oblivious to the irony.

      I don't think they were actually afraid... it's just kindof fun and exciting to think about it.

    8. Re:Lucky as expected. by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but there are headlines from organizations as mainstream as Forbes saying New York / Chicago In Potential Crash Path Of Out Of Control Chinese Space Station. And I've seen absolutely idiotic comments that border on satire online - but that is par for the course. Who knows? Humans are still terrible at risk assessment.

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    9. Re:Lucky as expected. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What an absolute garbage dump of a website.

    10. Re:Lucky as expected. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cuz a big fuss fit the "China EVIL!!!" narrative.

    11. Re: Lucky as expected. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because news media have to sensationalize everything.

  2. And nothing of value lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just buy another one! Cheap shit. Made in China. Whadayaxpect?

    1. Re:And nothing of value lost by AHuxley · · Score: 0

      Next time hire the experts from Russia and the USA who have the secrets about keeping a space station in space for a long time.
      Make the unemployed space experts an offer and get their secrets to China.
      Remember the FBI and FSB do have surveillance on most of the very best space experts all the time.

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    2. Re:And nothing of value lost by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      The Chinese send a lot of stuff into space. That's maybe why sometimes some get out of control.

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    3. Re:And nothing of value lost by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Sending is not the hard part anymore.
      Buying the secrets of staying in space is the challenge for China.
      Who to approach in Russia, the former Soviet Union, the USA with space job offer.

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    4. Re:And nothing of value lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > ... Remember the FBI and FSB do have surveillance on most of the very best space experts all the time ...

      Anyone we decide to not hire, nobody else can hire, either

      Apparently USA doesn't like competitions

    5. Re: And nothing of value lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am surprised the Chinesium material made it through the atmosphere. Oh well, we can just order another space station from harbour freight.

    6. Re:And nothing of value lost by higuita · · Score: 1

      yeh, right!!! just because those two never had SEVERAL satellites with uncontrolled re-entry

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    7. Re:And nothing of value lost by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      The secret to staying in space is actually wanting your object to stay in space, and not designing the mission to de-orbit soon.

      Of course, doing that with an experimental station that's only in use briefly would be irresponsible. Nobody wants objects remaining in space beyond their useful lifetime, it's always best if they can be crashed into the atmosphere.

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    8. Re:And nothing of value lost by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      I dunno man, I'm sure someone out in the desert is just waiting to catch spacejunk to hawk on E-Bay :)

      Props to anyone that catches the reference :)

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    9. Re: And nothing of value lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah this was Chinaâ(TM)s first one and is an experimental space station and it was not supposed to be permanent.... it was expected to actually go down last year.

      China already have another one up there already... also experimental and expected to come down some time after a few years....

      China only plan to have a permanent space station in a decade time or something.

      Theyâ(TM)re not there yet but itâ(TM)s not like they donâ(TM)t know what they are doing and having stuff falling down because itâ(TM)s of poor quality and what not....

  3. Lucky as expected. by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

    Not even "lucky", harming someone would have been very unlucky.

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  4. Re:Just like Trump metaphorically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As opposed to the French, who are putting Sarkozy in jail.

    Those 'Muricans have no balls, I tell ya.

  5. UTC+8 by konohitowa · · Score: 5, Informative

    That 08:15 would be Chinese time (UTC+8),

    breaking apart and burning up in the skies over the southern Pacific Ocean at about 8:16 p.m. EDT (0016 April 2 GMT), according to the U.S. Strategic Command's Joint Force Space Component Command (JFSCC).

    https://www.space.com/40101-china-space-station-tiangong-1-crashes.html

  6. Re:Just like Trump metaphorically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're just slow to realize what's going on - in this case, Trump and his bitch beta sons going to prison for a loooooong time.

  7. 08:16 Beijing Time / 8:16 pm EDT / 00:16 GMT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    08:16 Beijing Time means 8:16 am in the morning, Beijing Time

    8:16 pm EDT means 8:16 pm, at night (or evening, which ever way you wanna call it), EDT

    1. Re:08:16 Beijing Time / 8:16 pm EDT / 00:16 GMT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you commander obvious.

  8. Cheap capacitors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like all Chinese electronics, it is highly probable that the control failure can be traced back to poorly screened capacitors.

    1. Re: Cheap capacitors by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      More likely tainted stolen tech that was planted to be found by the Chinese.

  9. Re:Suspect the Chinese have some spare fuel left by Joce640k · · Score: 2

    Right, they could plan that because they were 100% certain that all the fuel and thrusters would survive re-entry.

    Uhuh.

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  10. Re:Suspect the Chinese have some spare fuel left by higuita · · Score: 1

    just burn a little sooner, before they would get damaged... when it starts to enter the atmosphere, to give it a little push

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  11. Newtonian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Don't forget to get back Sandra Bullock. She's ours!

  12. Burned up over South Pacific? by magusxxx · · Score: 1

    Hope Patti LuPone wasn't in the cast.

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  13. Re: Suspect the Chinese have some spare fuel left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The whole point of the uncontrolled re-entry was that they had no communication link, thus no control over the vessel.

  14. Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course it landed in the region of lowest payout! And I put all my bets into it landing somewhere in the vicinity of 37.485,-122.148. There goes my life savings!

  15. I blame systemd by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They probably lost communications with it during a systemd patch update.

  16. Predictions are hard, especially about the future by XXongo · · Score: 1

    Even minutes before the splash-down Western authorities were saying that the Tiangong-1 spaceship was aiming for the Atlantic, off the coast of Brazil, at 00:49 GMT, or so

    No. I was following this one, and most of the authorities were actually saying we don't know exactly where it will hit, here's the latest update and the best guess for impact, which was always a wide range.

    At the very end they were saying "it will enter on this orbit, here's the ground track"-- and the final orbit's ground track passed over the South Atlantic, continued over South Africa, and went on to the Pacific. Where on that final orbit it would hit depended very sensitively on exaclty how it was oriented and how much drag and how early it would start to break apart, something difficult to predict for a relatively simple satellite and very very hard to estimate for something as complex as Taingong-1. Nobody was giving exact predictions "it will land here."

  17. Re:Suspect the Chinese have some spare fuel left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Methinks the Chinese had some spare fuel left on board"

    It's possible, but radar confirmed it was tumbling pretty badly so it's unlikely that it had a lot of power and even if its systems were active timing the burn to coincide with the tumble would have been difficult. Still, its reentery area (the South Pacific is the go to area for deorbits) would seem to suggest some kind of control, a lot of luck or a combination of both.

  18. These reboots are getting really far fetched. by HyperStasis · · Score: 1

    I mean, why does a musical need crashing burning space stations???

  19. Re: Suspect the Chinese have some spare fuel left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do we know they had no communications link to the station? The Chinese are notoriously tight lipped about their space program, they could have been talking to the station. Though there is every indication that the station was disabled (broken reaction wheels, reaction control thrusters, etc) in some way (it was tumbling badly), but that alone does not completely prove its communications system were dead. Use of an omni-directional communications method would limit communication but still allow some degree of control if there was any to be had.

  20. Too bad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..it wasnt the House of the Elders burnt to a crisp. I hope Russia nukes those old chinks and decapitates China for 200 years...

  21. JUST HACKED FROM KREMVAX! SAVE US BATBOY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    Astronautics Project Manager
    National Space Research and Development Agency (NASRDA)
    Plot 555
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    PMB 437
    Garki, Abuja, FCT NIGERIA

    Dear Mr. Sir,

    REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE-STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

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  22. Dammit Jim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Xiao

  23. parts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Awww I was really looking forward to some space station parts....

  24. Re: We're running out of Space Age. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These are all really good ideas. Hey should have crashed it into the moon. So that we donâ(TM)t run out of space rockets.

  25. Re: We're running out of Space Age. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our outlook is collapsing. We should be heading outwards and wanting to be heading outwards, not waiting for Game Of Thrones until we're living in a similar set-up. We should be hearing news about off-planet living, instead we're laughing at the president's gibberish on Twitter. Putting a space station on the moon would give SOMETHING to work with on the lunar surface. Why are we being so accepting of letting the space programs go half-way then falling into failure?

  26. Re: Suspect the Chinese have some spare fuel left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes there was still fuel on board. The spacecraft was dead. The power system failed, so there was no communication with it. So no thruster firings were possible. If they had been, it would have made far more sense to use them to steepen the descent far earlier to increase the probability of the landing zone.