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Mosaic, the First HTML Browser That Could Display Images Alongside Text, Turns 25 (wired.com)

NCSA Mosaic 1.0, the first web browser to achieve popularity among the general public, was released on April 22, 1993. It was developed by a team of students at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA), and had the ability to display text and images inline, meaning you could put pictures and text on the same page together, in the same window. Wired reports: It was a radical step forward for the web, which was at that point, a rather dull experience. It took the boring "document" layout of your standard web page and transformed it into something much more visually exciting, like a magazine. And, wow, it was easy. If you wanted to go somewhere, you just clicked. Links were blue and underlined, easy to pick out. You could follow your own virtual trail of breadcrumbs backwards by clicking the big button up there in the corner. At the time of its release, NCSA Mosaic was free software, but it was available only on Unix. That made it common at universities and institutions, but not on Windows desktops in people's homes.

The NCSA team put out Windows and Mac versions in late 1993. They were also released under a noncommercial software license, meaning people at home could download it for free. The installer was very simple, making it easy for just about anyone to get up and running on the web. It was then that the excitement really began to spread. Mosaic made the web come to life with color and images, something that, for many people, finally provided the online experience they were missing. It made the web a pleasure to use.

132 comments

  1. First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2, Informative

    You mean something like WorldWideWeb

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    Ezekiel 23:20
    1. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by The+Evil+Atheist · · Score: 1, Informative
      You need to read better. The title says "Display Images Alongside Text".

      Following your own link: https://www.w3.org/People/Bern...

      The inline images such as the world/book icon and the CERN icon, would have been displayed in separate windows, as it didn't at first do inline images.

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    2. Re: First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "In earlier versions, images are displayed in separate windows, until NeXTSTEP's Text class gained support for Image objects."... RTFWiki

    3. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by networkzombie · · Score: 1

      Yeah, a better title would have been "Mosaic turns 25". It wasn't the best and it wasn't the first, but it was pioneering. I'm old, back to the BBS days, but Mosaic didn't float my boat, Netscape did. I'm sure we'll get the "Netscape turns 25" next year or so. The fun fact I remember is that Mozilla is short for "Mosaic Killer". Also, SeaMonkey rules.

    4. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by goose-incarnated · · Score: 2

      You mean something like WorldWideWeb

      As evil atheist pointed out, you missed a bit while reading the article. Anyway, that desktop is very very similar to what my own desktop currently looks like (I run WindowMaker).

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      I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
    5. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      WorldWideWeb came out in 1990, Mosaic came out in 1993. So, "at first" refers to 1990. By 1993, WorldWideWeb could display images "alongside text", as the 1993 screen shot on that very page shows. ViolaWWW came out in 1992, before Mosaic, and could also mix text and images. So, I'd say "you need to read better".

    6. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mosaic was the firs that could display HTML in a modern way, ie images and text somewhat composed to make a web page. The original "browsers" were text only, then upon clicking on a link to an image, could you see one image at a time (per window). When NCSA Mosaic first came out, one could render a page as we think of it today. TBL intended this, but didn't quite get it to work on his Next machine at the time. I think the first version of Mosaic was funded by the Al Gore bill, hence people mistakenly called him the father of the internet. TBL was modest and let others take credit for their contributions, even to the point of general ignorance that he created the WWW.

    7. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      WorldWideWeb could display images alongside text eventually. It's not entirely clear when it gained the functionality. (By the way, the fact that it had to wait for NEXTStep to support it is a clear indication of how backwards even NEXTStep was compared to Smalltalk where implementing such a feature was much easier.)

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    8. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      I didn't miss it, I just couldn't fit it into the idiotic subject box that is both unusable AND mandatory at the same time.

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    9. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Apparently, Viola was able to mix text and images in 1991, but I can't find when exactly it became an HTTP user agent.

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    10. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, who fucking cares

    11. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by haruchai · · Score: 1

      "a better title would have been "Mosaic turns 25"

      Who's still using Mosaic? The last release was in '97.
      Saying that it's "turning 25" is like saying my grampa who died 45 years ago would be "turning 110"

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      Pain is merely failure leaving the body
    12. Re: First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Imagine how much better the world would be if Smalltalk had been used instead of Javascript

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    13. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      According to Tim Berners-Lee:

      Where does Mosaic fit in?

      A: "As I understand it, Marc Andreessen at NCSA was shown ViolaWWW by a colleague (David Thompson?) at NCSA. Marc downloaded Midas and tried it out. He and Eric Bina then wrote their own browser for unix from scratch. Later, several other folks at NCSA joined the team to port the idea to Mac and PC. As they did, Tom Bruce at Cornell was writing "Cello" for the PC which came out neck-and-neck with Mosaic on the PC.

      Marc and Eric did a number of very important things. They made a browser which was easy to install and use. They were the first one to get inline images working ..."

    14. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 1990 IBM released OS/2 1.3. It had its own primitive information browser called explorer. I don't know if it was a combined effort between IBM and Microsoft but it could also display CGA and EGA images and text. It did not though display HTML it used its own document format and provided links to other similar formatted documents available on IBM's gopher site. I've looked online for any mention of it and don't see any. The markup it used later became the help system of OS/2 and the name "Explorer" became "WebExplorer" using a similar layout format in a following newer version using HTML instead.

      So maybe it wasn't the first web explorer but It was probably one of the first document explorer.

    15. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      That's apples to oranges. Software never "dies". It may fall out of favor and stop being updated, but it's still out there and quite possibly being used. IIRC as of a few years ago there was still some mechanic shop using a Commodore 64 to balance drive axles because the software was still serving their needs. I'd wager the last release of that C64 software was before Mosiac was even released at all.

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    16. Re: First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > until NeXTSTEP's Text class gained support for Image objects

      Holy separation of concerns, Batman!

    17. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Software never dies"

              Cool. I need to dig up my old copy of napster then.

    18. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by bn-7bc · · Score: 1

      Software never dies, but back-end systems get shut down for many reasons rendering front ends none functional, IIRC Napster relied on central servers.

    19. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "WorldWideWeb could display images alongside text eventually."

      I don't know why this is important, ithe web worked perfectly with text only with the speed those days.
      After the images got possible, everything went downhill.
      We oldsters remember that the stupid teen 'webmasters' with their Macs posted the original full sized photo to the webpage, they tested it locally and obviously it was quite snappy.

      Over an acoustic coupler, not so much.

    20. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WorldWideWeb could display images alongside text eventually. It's not entirely clear when it gained the functionality.

      Well, the HTML standard was divised as a way reproduce graphic/typographic [as in a magazine/newspaper] content on electronic media.

    21. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Nelson · · Score: 1

      Do you mean "Cello?"

      I thought it was mostly for gopher.

    22. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Nelson · · Score: 1

      nm. There was a violawww from 1992.. I don't think I ever used it.

    23. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HTML was not the first hypertext format, and probably won't be the last. But HTML is certainly the most widely used to date.

      I'd like to note that ViolaWWW beat Mosiac by about a year. But was not portable and only ran on X Windows, so Mosiac won by being easier to port. A bit of the same story for an the even earlier browser Nexus, which was tightly coupled to NeXT's system.

      I think the only "first" that Mosiac has is that it was the first HTML browser with images to be ported to MS Windows. Seems less impressive when stated that way. But it was wildly popular back in its day, and launched the career of Marc Andreessen of Netscape fame. And it's important to note that Netscape's IPO is what triggered the crazy tech speculation of the 1990's and lead to the dot-com bubble. Everyone wished they were part of that original Netscape IPO and did everything they could to not miss out on the next great IPO, that cycle churned through Silicon Valley for nearly a decade before coming to a grinding halt.

    24. Re:First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      What really kicked things into high gear was when ther was a browser PC and Mac. Before then these browsers were common at universities where you had access to computers you could never afford to have at home, whereas the the home computers at the time were relatively simple with dumb operating systems with very limited and proprietary networking. If you weren't playing games or playing with spreadsheets, the web browser actually made a home computer useful.

      It was a bit like email. I used it since 1982 and it was very common in universities and tech oriented corporations, but for the mass market they didn't hear of this for another decade.

    25. Re: First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Well, Javascript came pretty late. Java was earlier and was relatively heavy on resources when it was new, and smalltalk at the time was even heavier. Imagine runing this on Windows 3.1 and a 286...

    26. Re: First HTML Browser That Could Display Images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Well, Javascript came pretty late. Java was earlier

      Java initial release: May 1995
      JavaScript initial release: December 1995

  2. Feeling old... by Eaglehawk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Never has a Slashdot article title made me feel so old...

    1. Re:Feeling old... by maestroX · · Score: 2

      Never has a Slashdot article title made me feel so old...

      You're alright as long as you don't mention Gopher.

    2. Re:Feeling old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The web is still young compared to automobiles, the telephone and electricity. Wait until the web turns 100.

    3. Re:Feeling old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I used that... and Archie and Veronica.

    4. Re:Feeling old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How many blocked requests can a 2091 ad blocker block? The way things are going, probably about as many as there are stars in the known universe.

    5. Re:Feeling old... by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      FSP.

    6. Re:Feeling old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never has a Slashdot article title made me feel so old...

      That was my first thought as well.

      I remember installing it on my Slackware Linux in 1993.

      Oh, the joys of having X-windows running on a Linux box, using SLIP to turn a modem connection into a multiplexed internet connection where I could use Mosaic along side with FTP, telnet, and usenet ... have a bunch of open windows ... compile while downloading. Laughing at people running Windows 3.11 because it was still a piece of shit.

      I think it was only about 7 years ago that I got rid of the zillion 3.5" floppies I installed Slackware from (0.99a I believe).

      That along with the stuff I'd done in university helped land my first job as a C programmer and UNIX admin.

      Good times.

    7. Re:Feeling old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am curious how many modern web based attacks would be negated by reverting to a gopher server. While some manner of form entry would be needed for client-server interaction, the non-availability of images, CSS, and javascript, combined with obscurity is enticing.

      [Obscurity is not Obsecurity, etc.]

    8. Re:Feeling old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you. I don't feel so alone now. I miss those days, the glow of the green screen and traveling the digital world by keyboard.

    9. Re:Feeling old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to Finger Veronica often....

    10. Re:Feeling old... by bigpat · · Score: 1

      Never has a Slashdot article title made me feel so old...

      Old school. 1.0... forget it, I downloaded an alpha/beta version of Mosaic on my Mac around September 1993 right when I got back to school and moved into my dorm. And I remember that memory issue... that they fixed in October. Heck I might have even emailed them about the bug. But my own memory is getting a bit fuzzy 'cause that was a quarter century ago.

    11. Re:Feeling old... by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      You expect people to remember FTP, let alone an obscure, alternative, protocol like File Service Protocol? Living dangerous. :-)

      Aside, does anyone know when FSP was invented? I can find FTP but not FSP ..

      The original specification for the File Transfer Protocol was written by Abhay Bhushan and published as RFC 114 on 16 April 1971.

    12. Re:Feeling old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many blocked requests can a 2091 ad blocker block? The way things are going, probably about as many as there are stars in the known universe.

      Are you kidding me? The way content providers are locking down technology to serve their own interests, by 2091 an ad blocker will be a felony with summary conviction and seizure of assets with government being little more than the enforcement arm of multinational corporations.

      Internet of Things will be ubiquitous, and everything you look at will present ads to you.

      And in the name of security you will have nothing which resembles any rights and freedoms which corporations aren't willing to allow you to have.

      We're trending towards a very dystopian future, and unless you're Reg the Blank living in a van and off the grid, you simply won't have the ability to not see ads.

      I have very little faith in the future of mankind, and predict fairly soon it will be impossible to view the internet with blocked ads, without the government listening to everything you say, and without everything you do serving the interests of a corporation who doesn't care if you live or die.

      Give it 10 years tops, and we won't be talking about the 1%, we'll be talking about the 0.1%.

    13. Re:Feeling old... by pbr · · Score: 1

      I remember jumping thru hoops to get it to compile and run on my Sun workstations.
      Browsed the whole damned web in about 5 minutes, since there were only a handful of public sites.
      Went back to using TinyFugue and hanging out with my pals in LambdaMOO.

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      -PBR
    14. Re:Feeling old... by Targon · · Score: 1

      I still remember saving/loading programs on cassette tape back in the late 1970s and early 1980s with my first modem being a US Robotics 212A 1200 baud modem in 1986 I think it was. Far higher quality than the Zoom 2400 baud modem I replaced it with, that's for sure.

    15. Re:Feeling old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll trade you gopher for pine, tin and lynx. Ah the good old days when the net was just an atdt, a uni rotary and some... umm, "entirely legitimate guesswork"... away.

  3. Wow, images!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It was a radical step forward for the web, which was at that point, a rather dull experience. It took the boring "document" layout of your standard web page and transformed it into something much more visually exciting, like a magazine.

    And here I am, on my newish tablet, having turned off the auto d/ling of images, stop scripts, ad block, and a dozen other things to get web pages as close to pure text as possible because the carnival neon-sign autovideo blaring nature of web 3.0 sucks more ass than a jr Democratic congressman at a fundraiser.

    Not to mention my 1000x more powerful tablet vs 1993 slows to a crawl otherwise.

    I'd like boring. Boring would be good and fast and high signal to noise ratio. No, now I got reddit redesign to put up with, with more whitespace than a freshly painted looney bin, 1/3 info display, slowed to a crawl, just so they can inject more upcoming ads than Putin does Russian expats.

    1. Re: Wow, images!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      picking up a strong vibe of âoemy fucking prostate is playing up again and somebody must PAYâ.

    2. Re:Wow, images!!! by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Text isn't boring.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    3. Re:Wow, images!!! by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      No, now I got reddit redesign to put up with, with more whitespace than a freshly painted looney bin, 1/3 info display, slowed to a crawl, just so they can inject more upcoming ads than Putin does Russian expats.

      Can't forget the excessive use of large animated full width pictures as you scroll through an article. It's more annoying than the animated "Under Construction" signs.

    4. Re: Wow, images!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It must be all those snowballs they accumulated up their ass from having had to walk 8 miles to school in the snow uphill each way.

  4. Remember burning cherry pop tarts? by SendBot · · Score: 1

    One of the first web pages I can't seem to forget about it about how cherry pop tarts could catch fire in a toaster under the right conditions. Does anyone else 'member that? Good times.

    1. Re:Remember burning cherry pop tarts? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      One of the first web pages I can't seem to forget about it about how cherry pop tarts could catch fire in a toaster under the right conditions. Does anyone else 'member that? Good times.

      I think they were strawberry, and I remember something like that. In fact, if you buy pop tarts today, they make the heating optional, and recommend very quick heating times.

      Apparently it lead to a few fires and lawsuits.

    2. Re:Remember burning cherry pop tarts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I browsed lots of sites with alleged cherry popping going on in the meantime. Because it was the models' 50th 'movie', it seemed unlikely.

    3. Re:Remember burning cherry pop tarts? by SendBot · · Score: 1

      Thanks, and it was strawberry pop tarts. I remember thinking the internet was so vast but then I ran into that page more than once so I figured it couldn't really be that big.

  5. Amosaic was the shiz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember using amosaic on my amiga 500 to view the internet... ahhh those were the days!!!
    Shit you make me feel old.... I'm only 40 for gods sake!!!!!

  6. Amosaic gives me flashbacks!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh the good old days of the amiga 500...
    Oh the hours waiting for pages to load up over my 2400baud modem!!
    I miss the modem breath!!

    Still have my A500 A600 A1000 A1200 A2000 & cd32

    Syndicate would have to be the best game ever!!!

  7. Psssh, Internet Explorer 3 is where it took off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When IE 3.0 introduced the <marquee></marquee> tag is when we reached peak Web 1.0

  8. Rule 34 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Mosaic made the web come to life with color and images, something that, for many people, finally provided the online experience they were missing."

    P0rn.

    "It made the web a pleasure to use."

    I'm sure it did!

    1. Re: Rule 34 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I dunno. I still used Usenet for porn. Otherwise there was the top down slow loading issue. "Looking good....looking good...looking good...argh it's a tranny!" Meanwhile the meters running

      Usenet was connect, download, disconnect, fetch tissues, chug at your leisure

    2. Re:Rule 34 by gravewax · · Score: 1

      there was plenty of porn long before Mosaic, all Mosaic did was let you see the same stuff in a browser. From memory though it was usually so slow at rendering that you were better off with downloading and viewing anyway.

    3. Re:Rule 34 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plenty of porn on FTP sites, BBSs, and Usenet alt.binaries encoded gifs. Way before Mosaic and HTTP

    4. Re: Rule 34 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...the top down slow loading issue. "Looking good....looking good...looking good...argh it's a tranny!"

      Yeah, the early Web was just a slightly more convenient version of the BBS experience.

      wow, captcha is "deviant"

    5. Re: Rule 34 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or even, ""Looking good....looking good...looking good...it's a kid?!? Where's my blowtorch? Where's my hammer? Smash the disk! Smash the disk!"

      There were (are?) pervy tools who spammed kiddy images all over the place. Makes USENET porn a bit of gamble.

    6. Re:Rule 34 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still porn was not as exciting as blink tags.

  9. Erwise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Mosaic added very little to Erwise which was the first browser with a GUI. Made in Finland like all relevant things :)

    1. Re:Erwise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All relevant things? Like the web Erwise was developed to access?

  10. memory lane. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that or lynx was the first browser I used.

  11. Annotations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *AND* you could write (inline) annotations to a web page, which persisted from one visit to the next.

    I think this is symptomatic for the dystopian turn the WWW has taken since: from a network of active peers to a top-down machinery ramming its shit into billions of wide-open gullets -- as has been TV before, and newspapers before that...

    The cusp of that evolution is what we have in the Googles and Facebooks of this world.

    I mean, Facebook? Seriously? Why don't you make your own fucking web page yourself?

    1. Re:Annotations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's not cool and people will make fun of you. Like going to starbucks dressed up like J.S. Bach. Humans are herd animals, Zuck cashed in on this aspect of our nature. Some people can get away with wordpress blogs, but fail to update it one day and your blog is yesteryear! Twitter and FB are evil, but they attract the herd's eyeballs, then addict the monkey brain. Drop out and your lizard brain screams "oh no!! I might miss something!"

    2. Re:Annotations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why I avoid FB and Twitter. My lizard brain longs for quite other things I don't want to discuss right now. And oh, I avoid starbucks too -- I sometimes like dressing like J.S. Bach.

    3. Re:Annotations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why I avoid FB and Twitter. My lizard brain longs for quite other things I don't want to discuss right now. And oh, I avoid starbucks too -- I sometimes like dressing like J.S. Bach.

      Yeah, people did that in the 60's. Very cool.

  12. Mosaic is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Things that are dead don't still age... this is media silliness

    1. Re:Mosaic is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about wine or the Greatful Dead ?

    2. Re: Mosaic is dead by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Mosaic is in pkgsrc and I can build a modern binary with a single make command.

  13. Netscape on Sgi Octane / Irix by ReneR · · Score: 1

    Just last week I installed Sgi Irix on my Octane (was only using Linux before) - wow, was that a adventurous experience. Also early Netscape. Unfortunately the WWW does not look that great without CSS, and too old HTTPS/SSL support: https://youtu.be/AkXB8M-0rTM?t...

  14. Dang I'm old by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

    Used it ...

    And I remember that fancy new IBM WebExplorer ... on OS/2

    1. Re:Dang I'm old by CaseyB · · Score: 2

      OS/2 2.0 was the shit. I used to have my phone number in my usenet signature, and once got a call from John Soyring, the guy in charge of the OS/2 program, to thank me after I posted a glowing review of it.

    2. Re:Dang I'm old by Hydrian · · Score: 1

      Dude,
          You are old. You felt safe enough to publicly post your phone number on the public internet. (I remember those days too)

      --
      No good deed goes unpunished.
    3. Re:Dang I'm old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Feeling old here too. Mosaic was the first browser I ever used, back in 1994. Then our university had the beta (I think?) of Netscape available shortly afterwards, and I switched to that. Never imagined I'd still be using a descendant of Netscape today.

  15. And it's all downhill since then by TeknoHog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The early Internet (and BBSes etc.) was nice because it were faceless, and you would be judged by you merits rather than mugshots. Fast forward quarter a century, and it's all about posting polished images of your luxurious lifestyle.

    --
    Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
    1. Re:And it's all downhill since then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think it was about 10 years ago that there was this movement trying to get people to be "real" on the internet because if you are presenting yourself openly you are less likely to be an asshole online. This lead to two significant discoveries; a lot of people are fake as shit online and terrified of their dirty laundry, a lot of people I know are absolute assholes.

      I'll take matching wits against some random idiot on IRC vs having somebody I thought I knew spout random nonsense on Facebook any day.

      Posting AC because I am an asshole.

    2. Re:And it's all downhill since then by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      I think it was about 10 years ago that there was this movement trying to get people to be "real" on the internet because if you are presenting yourself openly you are less likely to be an asshole online. This lead to two significant discoveries; a lot of people are fake as shit online and terrified of their dirty laundry, a lot of people I know are absolute assholes.

      Good point. Like any attempt to improve your image, this quickly turns against itself. For instance, a row of lawyers in suits on the website of a hip new startup doesn't exactly instil confidence in its tech.

      --
      Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
  16. Free software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was it ever free software? Wikipedia says no.

    Damn it, Slashdot, you should be able to keep it straight.

    1. Re: Free software? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The Mosaic team ran off to California to get rich.

    2. Re:Free software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Firstly, that's a quote from Wired, so Slashdot didn't say it was free software.

      Secondly, some people still use the term "free software" to mean something other than the meaning chosen by RMS/FSF.

      Thirdly, yes, you could get the source for early versions of NCSA Mosaic under terms of a license agreement.

      ftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Web/Mosaic/Licensing/src_rel.txt

    3. Re:Free software? by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      Was it ever free software? Wikipedia says no.

      In fact, it was open source software.

      Rant mode on: The wikipedia article claims that the fact that "there were always constraints on permissible uses without payment" makes it not open source software, because of the influence of the OSI, but that's not how open source works. The fact is, you could download the source code and build and use it personally, which is what made it open source. This change was made by David Wheeler in 2004. David Wheeler is known primarily for a 2000 self-published book on OSS, because he is a johnny-come-lately to the OSS scene who isn't familiar with the early days of open source — before the OSI.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  17. I was there man ... by capt_mulch · · Score: 1

    It was VERY revolutionary - start of a new era ...

  18. Finland... by thesupraman · · Score: 1

    Hmmmm.
    I do like my fiskars splitter.
    However I also like my husqvarna limber..
    Perhaps you are half right?

  19. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus Christ... Poor Chris! I don't think that's what he had in mind when he was "reinventing" himself!

  20. ...glory days... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...i spent a lot of time browsing the original lurker's guide to babylon 5 on NCSA mosaic; before the first studio takedowns there were fantastic collections of 'what-if' concept art for purview, long since lost to our digital dark age...

  21. Marc Andreessen by tomhath · · Score: 4, Informative

    Shortly after Mosaic was released, Andreessen made a copy of the source code, moved to San Francisco and repackaged it as Netscape Navigator. That was one of the most profitable copies of code anyone ever made.

    1. Re:Marc Andreessen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but there wouldn't have been any code to copy if he and Bina hadn't written it in the first place.

    2. Re:Marc Andreessen by gmiller123456 · · Score: 1

      Microsoft's copy of QDOS certainly beats it.

    3. Re:Marc Andreessen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference is that MS bought the QDOS code, but Netscape didn't have to buy the Mosaic code.

  22. Will never displace Gopher! by Minupla · · Score: 2

    Proving you should NEVER trust me to make tech predictions, upon seeing Mosaic, I will forever be remembered as saying "Who'd ever use that, Gopher is WAY more efficient"

    Oops.

    Min

    --
    On the whole, I find that I prefer Slashdot posts to twitter ones because I don't get limited to 140 chars before
    1. Re:Will never displace Gopher! by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Did you also make a prediction regarding needing more than 640k of RAM..?

      --

      Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
  23. Re:Haha old crap haha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There won't be any diapers left when you get there... we'll have shit in all of em. Just for you. Have fun with recycled diapers kiddo.

  24. pleasure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean they had youpr0n etc already ?

  25. Wow... by beheaderaswp · · Score: 2

    What a weird feeling.

    To think I went through Archie, Veronica, Gopher... even before PPP through SLIP. The days of completely open mail relays, anonymous FTP, and all the UNIX. That's all there was really... it was a big blank chalkboard. Techies were racing to write on it.

    Yea it makes me feel old. But I'm glad I got to see it.

    --
    Another consultant who stuck it out.

    "We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx..."
  26. Amazing by Bastardinho · · Score: 0

    How amazingly boring.... An obsolete piece of software, discontinued 21 years ago was created 25 years ago. Don't forget tomorrow to celebrate libcurses, libmotif and the backspace key of the first guy browsing for porn on the interwebs.

    1. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't forget tomorrow to celebrate libcurses, libmotif and the backspace key of the first guy browsing for porn on the interwebs.

      OR THE FIRST FUCKER TO DISCOVER THE CAPS LOCK KEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  27. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought you said poopcorn! It made me do a doubletake!

  28. Intresting by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

    I remember trying out Mosiac back when I first was trying out the internet (I'd say around 1994-ish). It was interesting but at the time Netscape was just much, much better so I didn't use it much aside from just playing around.

    --
    "People who think they know everything are very annoying to those of us who do."-Mark Twain
  29. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey creimer! minus 53 views yesterday! Keep on the good work!

    CROFLOL!

    https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...
    --
    Balena!

  30. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey creimer! minus 53 views yesterday! Keep on the good work!

    Read the FAQ: https://socialblade.com/youtube/help/why-is-my-view-count-negative-or-zero-for-a-day

    Negative numbers can also appear when YouTube audits view counts. This happens automatically every once in a while, when YouTube has determined that they made a mistake or a change in their algorithms.

  31. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK is much more nastier than creimer in a troll fight. You're in for a world of hurt. Hold on while I go get a bag of popcorn.

    creimer, you impaired brain, -er already means more... (example: stronger == more strong)

    It shows that you skipped some years in school when nobody would accept you in their classrooms...

  32. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Negative numbers can also appear when YouTube audits view counts.

    Exactly, and youtube is "auditing" your view count following the complaints I made to them about your click bot and your spam posts.

  33. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's an automatic process. Creimer also had 4K+ views in three weeks from Slashdot AND Silicon Valley Comic Con 2018. No surprise that the numbers are being readjusted. More so because the new metrics are watch time and view click through rates.

  34. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because you use a click bot and spam posts you fat fraud!

    No more 4K+ click bots views in 3 weeks for you, you stubborn cocksucker!

  35. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called organic search and external views.

  36. Chimera by michael_cain · · Score: 1

    Anyone else remember the chimera browser from about the same time that could also do embedded images? Not the Mozilla-based one that became camino, but the original 1.x versions (from UNLV, I think?). Looked at my old lab notebooks and I used that chimera in a series of demos with homegrown video-over-IP in April, 1995. Didn't embed the video in the browser display proper, but added code to let the browser fork a separate video-over-IP player that displayed the stream.

  37. Grey (Gray) backgrounds. by cjellibebi · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one still in 2018 who whenever I install a new webbrowser, one of the first things I do is to turn the default background colour back to mosaic-grey? I cannot remember the precise colour code, but I suspect #C0C0C0 (192, 192, 192) is a good approximation. The reason I do this is so that any plaintext file looks just like I'm used to seeing it when I see it through a web-browser. Likewise, any HTML document without the colours defined would look like how HTML documents looked like before Netscape let you chnge the background[-colour].

    One of the things I discover is that people always assume the default text is black and default background is white. Which means that if someone wants to change the text-colour, they may forget about the background colour, and their choice of text-colour may not work so well on grey as on white. Another annoying thing is that some people place transparent images with anti-aliasing and one-bit transparency working on the assumption that the text will blend into a white background. If the background is grey, it looks like the text has a white halo with a jagged edge. BTW I'm not sure if CSS lets you anti-alias text to an arbitrary colour, or if I'm only seeing this with 1-bit transparent images.

    1. Re:Grey (Gray) backgrounds. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another annoying thing is that some people place transparent images with anti-aliasing and one-bit transparency working on the assumption that the text will blend into a white background. If the background is grey, it looks like the text has a white halo with a jagged edge.

      What's even worse is when the background is non-white because the very same graphic designer who made the image decided to make the background a different colour, but didn't take that into account when producing the image. And yes, I have seen this in real life.

  38. What they don't say by Targon · · Score: 1

    There was no "World Wide Web" prior to HTML. There was an Internet(and still other networks such as bitnet), but the idea of the web really was derived from gopher. Gopher allowed an administrator to set up a menu style layout to find information, and what made HTML(the language web pages are written in), is the ability to have links within a document that would then connect you directly to other documents. Lynx was the go-to command line web browser, non-graphical, and MOSAIC was the graphical web browser in those early days. Netscape quickly came out as something faster(initially available to the general Internet as version 0.8 that I remember using, with that big pulsing "N" to show activity) which became the dominant graphical web browser.

    I will again note, there was no such thing as a "web page", because the idea of having links from within one document to another document somewhere else on the Internet wasn't there before HTML.

  39. Amiga 500 by bigmo · · Score: 1

    I remember the day (actually very very late at night) that I was finally able to compile Mosaic on the Amiga 500 and look at a "modern" web page ie a headline, some text and a jpeg image. At the time it was a pretty big accomplishment and very exciting.

    Oh, and get off my lawn.

  40. Mosaic predates the Memex Multiplex by epine · · Score: 1

    Au contraire, what made the web a pleasure to use was multiple displays and tabbed browsing, open to motionless page views.

    To this day, I write custom CSS that removes the majority of the images for most web sites (I turn this off when I think an image might actually matter to the article at hand). I wrote another one this morning, for a website that displayed too much non-essential cruft. (Stat check: I now have 300 user styles, and 95% of these do nothing but subtract visual cruft.)

    If the image supports the text (certain key illustrations in explanations of deep learning come to mind) then you're amplifying your brain power. If the image supplements the text, if amounts to a second though process, which at best might not conflict too much with your textual understanding, and could help to anchor future recall. All the rest actively sabotage effective cognition. This being about 80% of all images on the internet.

    Most people don't even realize that reading a single image-laden document (with its native visual commotion) is already a form of ineffective multitasking.

    On the other hand, surrounding a issue from multiple sides is not a form of multitasking. For this task, one needs multiple displays and tabbed browsing. Anything less is a cognitive straightjacket.

    Rarely, you find someone like Feynman who you can read straight through all day long and not feel like it's cramping your style (as a more humble example: Tim Wu). But even there, I'm liable to open twenty side-tabs per long read, just chasing down nuances of the technical jargon encountered (or refreshing my memory of the same).

    For my money, Memex Multiplex is still the One True Killer App. No amount of candy-ass eyeball flypaper is ever going to change my mind on this point.

    Think hard, play hard. Candy ass should have never escaped bucket number two to begin with.

    [*] Google Images is a godsend of a second bucket: amazing how many hotties look spectacular in exactly one lucky photograph (the coyote vamps). In this sphere, too, I prefer to surround my subject matter. A woman who never takes a bad photo almost always has an inner light, and it's this inner light that ultimately makes pleasure a pleasure, supposing your mind is sufficiently uncluttered to detect the difference.

  41. I'd kill for a text only browser. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No videos. No sound. No banner ads or pop-ups. No facebook data profiling "Like" buttons.

    1. Re:I'd kill for a text only browser. by montulli · · Score: 1

      Lynx is still available. ;)

  42. Other Browsers of the Time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I vaguely recall something called Lynx? Text-based, not graphic. I think I used it a couple of times on a VM/CMS mainframe.

    At one time, somebody offered a service where you could email a http: link and have the text of the page returned by email, complete with any links within the page fully spelled out.

    That said, Mosaic was an eye-opener in more ways than one.

  43. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I tried to but it says; "channel unavailable".

    Did you get barred from youtube as well?

  44. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are dumber than dumb creimer!

    External links are put on a web site by the web site owner. Forum spam posts don't count as external links you dummy! You really believe that Google isn't smart enough to tell the difference?

    https://moz.com/learn/seo/exte...

    Organic search doesn't include amazon spam either, you silly twisted retard!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    https://www.smartbugmedia.com/...

  45. wow all this talk about ncsa mosaic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And no one mentioned the built in spider? Best thing ever. Set up depth and breadth, point it at a page and go have dinner. Come back and click around with no waiting. I was so pissed off when m$ bought it. Even if ie wasn't crap I still would have hated it

  46. Re:I had sex with cdreimer... APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess your previous picture is on too many registries?

  47. Long ago by therealbev · · Score: 1

    I used Mosaic for a few days in 1994 or early 1995, just before Netscape .9 came out. At the time I was active on the CalStateLA/K-12 usenet feed (free to 'students'), which was moderated by a total idiot who eventually went to the L.A. Freenet and ruined that too. Said idiot spent most of his budget trying to develop a child-friendly browser based on cello. Apparently it never worked and he was much ridiculed for his goal as well as his attempts. As he moderated a newsgroup out of existence everybody moved to a different unused newsgroup for self-help subjects as well as general bitching.

    Good times...