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Scientists Confirmed a New DNA Structure Inside Human Cells (sciencealert.com)

Trax3001BBS quotes Science Alert: For the first time, scientists have identified the existence of a new DNA structure never before seen in living cells. The discovery of what's described as a "twisted knot" of DNA in living cells confirms our complex genetic code is crafted with more intricate symmetry than just the double helix structure everybody associates with DNA -- and the forms these molecular variants take affect how our biology functions...

"It seems likely that they are there to help switch genes on or off," according to Garvan's Mahdi Zeraati, the first author of the new study, "and to affect whether a gene is actively read or not."

36 comments

  1. It's just like us. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It switches genes on and off one leg at a time.

  2. Thanks, /. by GerryGilmore · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is exactly the type of article that keeps you my home page, despite the cesspool the comments section can become when social/cultural issues are involved.
    Here, pure-ass geekdom. Ahhhh....

    1. Re: Thanks, /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, thanks for posting a story that all the other tech sites, as well as sites like CNN and the BBC, ran over a week ago.

      Slashdot, stale news for nerds, things that mattered a while ago.

    2. Re: Thanks, /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot is full of stale perspectives. It's a collection of has-beens and Russian bots.

  3. Interchange by arth1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    - Hey, little piece of DNA, can you tell us what you're for?
    - I'm a frayed knot...

  4. Meanwhile I just dropped a new DNA structure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...in your mom!

    1. Re:Meanwhile I just dropped a new DNA structure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought she was secure... did you find a backdoor?

    2. Re:Meanwhile I just dropped a new DNA structure... by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Funny

      Tequila

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    3. Re:Meanwhile I just dropped a new DNA structure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like the retarded "BREAKING:" at the beginning of the title. Total idiotic Digg drivel.

  5. Ob by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    It's obviously the documentation. The reason it hasn't been found until now is because nobody was looking for it.

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  6. ah it's the appendix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    :-;

  7. It is imagination ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The cells have inside neurons, DNA, RNA, ...

    They are microscopic biological robots.

    1. Re: It is imagination ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a genetic behavior that keeps us from committing total genocide. There has to be a failsafe somewhere. It would explain our past 50 years of political mayhem.

  8. That's ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... an impedance matching stub for an implanted mind control receiver.

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  9. fifth element by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    memo groups anyone?

  10. Thanks, /-Knot a theory. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wondering if there's a relationship between these structures and the tangles that form in phone cords. Mathematically speaking.

    1. Re: Thanks, /-Knot a theory. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to my walk-by-your-desk research the knotted phone cords are more common at female occupied desks than male ones. Either they are used more, or a reflection of the newly discovered DNA structure.

    2. Re: Thanks, /-Knot a theory. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Knotted phone cords are caused by picking up the handset with one hand, switching the handset to the other hand then putting it back causing a half-twist each time. So now the big question is, who or what is picking up your DNA? The probability of it being a female here on /. is quite small.

  11. Over-hyped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    RNA structures are already known to do this, they form all sorts of side-chain loops.

    DNA also can perform side-chain loops, but usually does not. Self-bonds in the loops (mirror image bonding) make them very weak and subject to breakage.

    Regardless, to paint this as some revolution is pretty stupid. We already knew that these were possible and RNA did it all the time.

    1. Re:Over-hyped by careysub · · Score: 1

      This is a DNA structure never before seen in any living cell. Knowing something is "possible" and finding it in a real living system is enormously different.

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    2. Re:Over-hyped by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      People who live in fantasies are surprised when reality doesn't match, but wonder why anyone is interested when it does match.

    3. Re:Over-hyped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really fantasies when OP is right, these are well-known structures.

      From 2014 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24845472

      "DNA nanotechnology based on i-motif structures is one system that has played an important role in these investigations. In this Account, we summarize recent advances in functional DNA nanotechnology based on i-motif structures. The i-motif is a DNA quadruplex that occurs as four stretches of cytosine repeat sequences form CCH(+) base pairs, and their stabilization requires slightly acidic conditions. This unique property has produced the first DNA molecular motor driven by pH changes. The motor is reliable, and studies show that it is capable of millisecond running speeds, comparable to the speed of natural protein motors. With careful design, the output of these types of motors was combined to drive micrometer-sized cantilevers bend. "

  12. Not Symmetric by DERoss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article says: "a "twisted knot" of DNA in living cells confirms our complex genetic code is crafted with more intricate symmetry". Knots are never symmetric. They are either right-handed or left-handed.

    1. Re:Not Symmetric by careysub · · Score: 1

      The article says: "a "twisted knot" of DNA in living cells confirms our complex genetic code is crafted with more intricate symmetry". Knots are never symmetric. They are either right-handed or left-handed.

      Right - they should have said "more intricate geometry".

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    2. Re: Not Symmetric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DNA is sided, it is not symetric

    3. Re:Not Symmetric by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I guess you never knotted to strings together ...

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    4. Re:Not Symmetric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Knots are never symmetric. They are either right-handed or left-handed.

      I'm not sure what you mean by the first statement, but the second one is false. There are many achiral knots, the simplest being the figure-eight knot.

    5. Re:Not Symmetric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you consider a circle a knot?

    6. Re: Not Symmetric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not all are, there are exceptions to every rule. Though I'll have to double check that when it comes to mathematical knots.

    7. Re:Not Symmetric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cytosins in the right places for these ladders to form is a kind of (local) symmetry. The article doesn't call the knot symmetric. The knot is not part of the genetic code.

    8. Re:Not Symmetric by Whibla · · Score: 1

      Knots are never symmetric. They are either right-handed or left-handed.

      Rotational symmetry is still symmetry. This knot, like many, more complicated others, has rotational symmetry.

      As another poster has already pointed out the second statement above is also incorrect. This page gives more information regarding symmetry / handedness in knots.

    9. Re: Not Symmetric by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      "Knotted to strings". That's just called "tied up" in English.

  13. itrDNA by cstacy · · Score: 1

    Slashdot is full of stale perspectives. It's a collection of has-beens and Russian bots.

    In Russia, DNA tangles YOU!

    This is called itrDNA - "Interfering Tangled Russian DNA". The effect was uncovered by measuring expression levels of the YUGE gene. See the companion papers "Long Term Silencing of MULLER With An siRNA Expression Vector" and "YUGE Is Regulated By Russians" in Nature Genetics.

    Short version is that YUGE is influenced by the "Russian" interference. The itrDNA upregulates the production of an siRNA (YUGE) that specifically "colludes" with a not-fully-understood protein called FAKE. The source of the FAKE product is not known, but it can be found floating around. FAKE is recruited by the YUGE siRNA into a trimer (FAKE-FAKE-FAKE) that blocks the initiation complex near the site of genes such as MULLER. The "foreign" hidden Russian cis elements at the beginning of this process had long been suspected, their role was never so clearly exposed before. (This particular itrDNA is tentatively named STEEL because of it's "perverted" yet strong tensile shape; there may be other Russian elements not yet discovered.)

    Every time we think we understand the central dogma, along comes a new discovery like epigenetic methylation, siRNA, and now "tangled" regulatory DNA!

  14. But can it say by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    Multipass?

  15. As opposed to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "For the first time, scientists have identified the existence of a new DNA structure never before seen..."

    and next week:

    For the thirty-seventh time, scientists have identified the existence of a new DNA structure never before seen