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AI Researchers Revolt Against a New Paywalled Nature Journal (oregonstate.edu)
More than 2,000 researchers, including several employees of Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Netflix and other companies, have signed an open letter to revolt against Nature Machine Intelligence, a proposed new paywalled (closed-access) journal from Nature Publishing Group. The researchers said they won't "submit to, review, or edit" anything for the new publication. Nature Publishing Group has responded to the protest saying it is "providing a service -- for those who are interested -- by connecting different fields, providing an outlet for interdisciplinary work and guiding a rigorous review process." The open letter, posted on Oregon State University's site, adds: We see no role for closed access or author-fee publication in the future of machine learning research and believe the adoption of this new journal as an outlet of record for the machine learning community would be a retrograde step. In contrast, we would welcome new zero-cost open access journals and conferences in artificial intelligence and machine learning.
Someone should develop a system for decentralized publishing of scientific documents. Like a interconnected network of some kind.
Nice to see that (some) outdated business models have finally reached the dead-on-arrival phase.
There is no Zero cost, it costs someone, somewhere. What they actually mean was that someone else should pay.
Why not just have AI submit to, review, or edit? Problem solved. Then have some more AI pay to read the articles. Closed loops are the best kind.
An article about free journal publication.
The preceding article is about people wanting free Comcast upgrades.
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If you RTFA, (I know, I know, this is Slashdot.) you'll see that this open letter was published in 2001. I know that Slashdot is well-known for featuring old news, but isn't 17 years late a bit of a record?
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Take another look: the open letter is referencing a different letter from 2001.
Also, you might want to turn your spelling checker back on; it's "Ancient", not "Anceint".
Soo don't contribute to that journal. Why get all butthurt over it.
I was hoping AI is revolting against paywalls. That could be fun to watch/read about.
I wish we as a research community would also take a firmer stance against the current state of ACM and IEEE. It costs an author several hundred dollars extra to make his/her own publications open access. These "non-profit" professional organizations make millions of dollars off of us while we as a research community do all of the work, just so we can stamp "IEEE" or "ACM" on the journal or conference name.
IEEE/ACM charge us to be members, we do the research, we donate our time to review/edit/organize, we pay to go to the conference, we pay significantly more if we want our publications to be widely accessible (open access), our institutions (if we are associated with one) pay big money for access to the IEEE/ACM digital libraries that consist entirely of publications we all created in the first place, or if we don't have access through an institution we have to pay to read the research. In an age when it is virtually free to publish online, either it should be more cost effective to publish with these professional organizations, or we should replace the current conferences and journals with ones that are no longer associated with these organizations.
There is really no good reason for academics and institutions to still keep insisting on publishing via IEEE/ACM when the costs are so high. The sooner we disentangle the "prestige" of conferences and journals from whether or not they are associated with the money-sucking middlemen, the better for all of us and the better for the research.
Don't use it. Yes, perhaps your institution gives lots of tenure points for Nature publications, but you should be willing to stand up for what you believe in regardless of personal cost, right?
Why not create and manage your own open journal covering machine intelligence? (obligatory: with blackjack, and hookers)
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With all the top researchers avoiding this journal, my stuff is guaranteed to get published, woohoo!!
Anytime "AI" and "Revolt" are in an articles headline, you know it will generate clicks.
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"Nature Machine Intelligence" is a terrible name for a journal.
Stop those parasitic academic publishers from setting themselves up as gate-keepers and fleecing everyone who wants to read research papers that they didn't pay for and didn't contribute to in any meaningful way.
This really highlights just how out of touch journals are with reality, they couldn't have picked a field more against paywalls with a huge track record of free and open research papers than ML.
There, I said it.
Yep. We want it all for free. Someone else will pay for the review, publication, server maintenance, and vetting of content. Maybe a company which will promote those who pay the most to the top of the list rather than merit. Maybe a government who can dictate what get published and what gets buried. Maybe donations where the most salacious papers get top billing, and the boring ones that are the foundation of research get dropped to the dustbin.
Or maybe it will be powered by unicorn giggles and rainbow sighs. As everyone thinks it should be.