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Microsoft Is Moving Kinect to the Cloud (theverge.com)

At the annual Build conference, Microsoft's CEO Satya Nadella announced that Kinect is moving to the cloud. "Kinect, when we first launched it in 2010, was a speech-first, gaze-first, vision-first device. It was used in gaming, and then, later on, it came to the PC, and it was used in many applications: medical, industrial, robotics, education," said Nadella. "We've been inspired by what developers have done, and since Kinect, we've made a tremendous amount of progress when it comes to some of the foundational technologies in HoloLens. So we're taking those advances and packaging them up as Project Kinect for Azure." The Verge reports: It's big news after the depth camera and microphone accessory that originally debuted on the Xbox 360 was basically declared dead last October when Microsoft stopped manufacturing it. Alex Kipman, a technical fellow at Microsoft, explained in a LinkedIn blog post that Project Kinect for Azure would combine the depth sensor with Azure AI services that could help developers make devices that will be more precise "with less power consumption." Kipman also notes that AI deep learning on depth images could lead to "cheaper-to-deploy AI algorithms" that require smaller networks to operate.

37 comments

  1. Can you say F*C& YoU consumers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On further analysis we decided the stand alone Kinnect was too consumer/developer friendly. So in an effort to harvest as much information as we can while making everything more "powerful" we're complicating the sh|t out of it so only we and those we fund can develop for it.

  2. Worthless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was a junky piece of crap anyway.. M$ has too much money.. They spend money on dumb ideas..

  3. translation by nimbius · · Score: 1

    in much the same way bribing GoDaddy to switch their parked domains to IIS increased the total presence of IIS on the internet, so shall moving yet another microsoft product into Azure help increase the presence of Microsofts cloud offering.

    News from the future: Microsoft abruply shutters Azure 8 years after its release due to poor performance and not listening to a litany of developer complaints about the bugs in blob storage and the inability to support native docker without some sort of in-house developed version.

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  4. Fuck that ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An internet connected camera, to Microsoft no less, with an AI watching?

    Oh fucking hell no would I ever allow that shit into my home.

    Fuck you, Microsoft. Fuck you.

    Jesus Christ this shit is getting creepy and dystopian fast.

    1. Re:Fuck that ... by mikael · · Score: 1

      But think of all the "interesting analytics" that it will generate. I guess given that they are running out of data to put on the cloud, they are digging up and resurrecting old projects.

      http://www.cscjournals.org/lib...

      "In modern enterprises, customer data is valuable for identifying their behavioral patterns and developing marketing strategies that can align with the preferences of different customers. The objective of this research is to develop a framework that promotes the use of Kinect sensors for Big Data Analytics on customer behavior analysis. Kinect enables 3D motion capture, facial recognition and voice recognition capabilities which allow to analyze customer behaviors in various aspects. Information fusion on the network of multiple Kinect sensors can achieve enhanced insight of the customer emotion, habits and consuming tendencies. Big Data Analytic techniques such as clustering and visualization are applied on the data collected from the sensors to provide better comprehension on the customers. Prediction on how to improve the customer relationship can be made to stimulate the vendition. Finally, an experimental system is designed based on the proposed framework as an illustration of the framework implementation."

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    2. Re:Fuck that ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But think of all the "interesting analytics" that it will generate. I guess given that they are running out of data to put on the cloud, they are digging up and resurrecting old projects.

      http://www.cscjournals.org/lib... [cscjournals.org]

      "In modern enterprises, customer data is valuable for identifying their behavioral patterns and developing marketing strategies that can align with the preferences of different customers. The objective of this research is to develop a framework that promotes the use of Kinect sensors for Big Data Analytics on customer behavior analysis. Kinect enables 3D motion capture, facial recognition and voice recognition capabilities which allow to analyze customer behaviors in various aspects. Information fusion on the network of multiple Kinect sensors can achieve enhanced insight of the customer emotion, habits and consuming tendencies. Big Data Analytic techniques such as clustering and visualization are applied on the data collected from the sensors to provide better comprehension on the customers. Prediction on how to improve the customer relationship can be made to stimulate the vendition. Finally, an experimental system is designed based on the proposed framework as an illustration of the framework implementation."

      So, basically everything which could go wrong with having an internet connected camera hooked up to an AI.

      And then you truly have an AI watching everything you do, cataloguing it, and figuring out how to enhance "vendition" (selling you shit).

      Again, I reiterate ... fuck that.

  5. A load of BS by HornWumpus · · Score: 0

    The connect 2 is limited by it's sensor resolution.

    Any modern PC has more than enough CPU to do simple things like map the sensor data to an avatar skeleton.

    Sure you can find a use of a Connect sensor that could use more CPU, but it won't likely have anything to do with gaming.

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    1. Re:A load of BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In the meantime, all that audio and video will be going to Microsoft's cloud ... Waiting for something bad to happen.

    2. Re:A load of BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the meantime, all that audio and video will be going to Microsoft's cloud ... Waiting for something bad to happen.

      Yeah we've been "waiting" for that for decades, you people were saying this same shit about backdoors in Windows 95. After a few decades of nothing happening aren't you getting bored of this tired message? History suggests in another decade you'll still be waiting for something to happen.

    3. Re: A load of BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't they find backdoors in Microsoft?

  6. Re invent the wheel over and over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ever notice how Microsoft never gives up? Kinect was a failure with XBox but let's keep throwing it out there until something works. Probably got a bunch of Kinect parts sitting in a warehouse and something has to be done with them. Sadly Microsoft just seems to recycle old ideals and them calls them new.

    1. Re:Re invent the wheel over and over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't the new version of the Kinect a POS anyways, compared to the original? The original used the same technology that Apple uses in its face unlock. Apple bought the company that developed that tech, and why MS switched to the inferior crap that is the new version.

    2. Re:Re invent the wheel over and over again by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      No, It's much better. The original was lame and low res. Couldn't make out a finger.

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    3. Re:Re invent the wheel over and over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The original was plenty capable, if you ever actually used one on a PC with the SDK that MS provided. It's VGA resolution was adequate for catching details in the 5-10ft range from the sensor it was designed to work in.

    4. Re:Re invent the wheel over and over again by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Anyone have resolution specs on the original and current?

    5. Re:Re invent the wheel over and over again by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

      Original 650x480 video, 320x240 depth
      V2 1920x1080 video, 512x424 depth

      V2 also has a wider field of view but lacks a motor to move it.
      It can track more joints and more skeletons.
      http://zugara.com/how-does-the...

  7. Wait. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They fired all of my friends that worked on Kinect. I wish they would make-up their minds.

  8. Inspired by what developers have done? Bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Inspired by what developers have done? Bullshit.

    Microsoft sat on the Kinect name and ran it into the ground.

  9. Grandma! What big eyes you have! by thegreatbob · · Score: 1

    All the better to slurp you with, my dear!

    But grandma! Eyes aren't for slurping!

    I don't think you understand how this works, my dear!

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  10. Re:Inspired by what developers have done? Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Apple bought the company that developed the original Kinect sensor. That's how it got ran into the ground. The same technology that was in the original Kinect is what is inside the sensor array for face unlock. Just much more miniaturized.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PrimeSense

  11. Wow, That's Amazing by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    It's like an incremental upgrade to the Kinect hardware that instead of buying the whole thing, you buy half of it and are forced to rent the other half from a single provider that will leave your hardware useless as soon as you (or they) cancel the service.

    1. Re:Wow, That's Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to put "upgrade" in sarcastic quotes, but yeah.

    2. Re:Wow, That's Amazing by thegreatbob · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure most people have already arrived at the conclusion that "upgrade" no longer means what it should, and kind of just see it to mean "a bunch of unwanted and probably breaking/blocking changes that will take considerable time investment to route around.

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  12. Can SatNad Count? by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 0

    A few years ago it was “Touch-First, Mobile-First” and now it’s “Speech-First, Gaze-First, Vision-First”. Does he understand that after something is first, the next thing has to be second? I hate dislike nonsensical, corporate double-talk.

    1. Re:Can SatNad Count? by mikael · · Score: 1

      Well, the latest buzzword is to put pre- in front of every word, like pre-prepared or pre-planned or pre-predicted.

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  13. Microsoft + Kinect + Cloud by aglider · · Score: 1

    Time to switch it off.

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    1. Re:Microsoft + Kinect + Cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am so thankfull I did NOT get suckered in to buying any their kinect crap in the first place

  14. 3 Firsts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nutella, you can't have three firsts you fucking idiot.

    That's like saying my new css framework is mobile-first, desktop-first and email-first.

    Nonsense!

  15. I don't understand by Thelasko · · Score: 1

    How are they moving a piece of hardware to the cloud?

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    1. Re:I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How are they moving a piece of hardware to the cloud?

      Hail storm.