Chinese 'Accelerators' In Silicon Valley Aim To Bring Startups Home (reuters.com)

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Chinese 'Accelerators' In Silicon Valley Aim To Bring Startups Home (reuters.com)

Posted by BeauHD on Sunday May 20, 2018 @05:17AM from the home-away-from-home dept.

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: Beijing's unslakeable thirst for the latest technology has spurred a proliferation of "accelerators" in Silicon Valley that aim to identify promising startups and bring them to China. The surge in the number of China-focused accelerators -- which support, mentor and invest in early-stage startups -- is part of a larger wave of Chinese investment in Silicon Valley. At least 11 such programs have been created in the San Francisco Bay Area since 2013, according to the tech-sector data firm Crunchbase. Some work directly with Chinese governments, which provide funding. Reuters interviews with the incubators showed that many were focused on bringing U.S. startups to China. For U.S. government officials wary of China's growing high-tech clout, the accelerator boom reaffirms fears that U.S. technological know-how is being transferred to China through investments, joint ventures or licensing agreements. "Our intellectual property is the future of our economy and our security," Senator Mark Warner, the Democratic vice-chairman of the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee, said in a statement to Reuters about Chinese accelerators. "China's government has clearly prioritized acquiring as much of that intellectual property as possible. Their ongoing efforts, legal or illegal, pose a risk that we have to look at very seriously."

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Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by CrimsonAvenger · 2018-05-20 05:25 · Score: 2, Interesting

If you don't like their LEGAL efforts, then,being a Congresscritter, you can work to change the relevant LAWS.
Now, if they're doing illegal things, then you don't need to change the relevant laws, just enforce them. Equally. For everyone. Don't do this silly crap of "enforce the letter of the law if they're Chinese, but ignore the law if they're British/French/German (read: white guys like us).

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1. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by quantaman · 2018-05-20 05:34 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  If you don't like their LEGAL efforts, then,being a Congresscritter, you can work to change the relevant LAWS.
  Now, if they're doing illegal things, then you don't need to change the relevant laws, just enforce them. Equally. For everyone. Don't do this silly crap of "enforce the letter of the law if they're Chinese, but ignore the law if they're British/French/German (read: white guys like us).
  Or, being a responsible legislator, he could say "Hey, we've identified a potentially serious threat. We need to study it so we can take appropriate action."
  Politicians don't have a magic box that gives them perfect unbiased information, they (and their staffs) need to do research and check sources just like everyone else. The right answer might even be "don't change anything but keep monitoring".
  
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2. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by WindBourne · 2018-05-20 05:53 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  First off, you are not European and I doubt that you are Caucasian.
  Secondly, there is a HUGE difference in intentions. Europeans that are grabbing knowledge and companies in America are not about to bomb America with it. In addition, it is NOT 1-way only. We are allowed to buy land, companies, etc in over in Europe. OTOH, Your nation, china, blocks the west from doing the same thing.
  
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3. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by whizzter · 2018-05-20 06:04 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  It's not about "whiteness" when it comes to China, it's about a level playing field. Companies in China must be majority owned by Chinese persons or companies so even if car companies,etc has precence in China their local subsidiaries are in some fashion China owned and thus exposed to the possibility of technology theft.
  
  For example read up on how China became the Nr #1 country in high speed trains and the bitter taste it left for companies that tried to invest in subsidiaries there to have their tech stolen and now used agains't them aborad.
  
  http://fortune.com/2013/04/15/did-china-steal-japans-high-speed-train/
  
  http://www.scmp.com/news/china/economy/article/2107096/china-says-its-bullet-train-technology-was-stolen-days-after-us
4. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by religionofpeas · 2018-05-20 06:11 · Score: 1
  
  just enforce them. Equally. For everyone
  If you can get better results by selectively enforcing the laws, then why not ? Simpler than having the laws changed.
5. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by drinkypoo · 2018-05-20 06:24 · Score: 2
  
  For example read up on how China became the Nr #1 country in high speed trains and the bitter taste it left for companies that tried to invest in subsidiaries there to have their tech stolen and now used agains't them aborad.
  This is what greed looks like. China has done this kind of thing constantly, they have whole facilities which do nothing but study other people's chips for the purpose of knocking off their technology wholesale. Sure, I expect Intel and AMD to de-lid each other's CPUs to see how they did things, but the Chinese are doing it regularly for the purpose of making direct counterfeits. This is basically true in every industry in which they are involved, but foreign companies keep lining up to hand them their IP because they've got Yuan signs in their eyes. But it ends up basically the same every time.
  It makes no sense to sell your best technology to the Chinese, given what they will do with it.
  
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6. Re: Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 06:25 · Score: 1
  
  The real risk when dealing with companies in Western nations like Germany, France, the UK, Canada and Australia is that they have broken immigration systems that let in far too many people who outright refuse to integrate in any meaningful way. When a business in the US deals with businesses in such nations, there's a very good chance they're dealing with a foreign national who holds no allegiance to the Western nation they're taking advantage of. In some cases these people are outright hostile to their new host nation. Western Europe, Canada and Australia are quickly becoming a mix of Asia and the Middle East, rather than anything like they've traditionally been.
7. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by ShanghaiBill · 2018-05-20 06:56 · Score: 1
  
  If you can get better results by selectively enforcing the laws, then why not ?
  We have a word for selective enforcement: Corruption. You pay a bribe, and we let you slide.
  
  Simpler than having the laws changed.
  More profitable too.
8. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by religionofpeas · 2018-05-20 07:02 · Score: 1
  
  We have a word for selective enforcement: Corruption. You pay a bribe, and we let you slide.
  That's just one particular example of of selective enforcement, probably not relevant here.
9. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 07:38 · Score: 0
  
  but the Chinese are doing it regularly for the purpose of making direct counterfeits.
  Picasso/SteveJobs:
  "good artists copy, great artists steal"
  Just let that sink in for a minute...
10. Re: Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 07:38 · Score: 0
  
  I'm scared of dealing with coloured people, too. I'm only comfortable with white people that think exactly like I do.
11. Re: Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by JaredOfEuropa · 2018-05-20 08:15 · Score: 2
  
  When a business in the US deals with businesses in such nations, there's a very good chance they're dealing with a foreign national who holds no allegiance to the Western nation they're taking advantage of
  As a European, with some very serious doubts about the current level of immigration, the failure of many immigrants to integrate properly (for whatever reason that may be), and what the long term effects on our society will be, I still have to ask: where did you get this ridiculous notion?
  
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12. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by JaredOfEuropa · 2018-05-20 08:17 · Score: 1
  
  Good artists imitate, great artists improve upon.
  
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13. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 09:03 · Score: 1
  
  Not sure where you got your information from.
  Companies in China do not need to be majority owned by Chinese persons or companies, except in very specific fields. The going trend is reducing the specific fields as well. You should try reading about WOFEs when you get the chance.
  BTW China would be happy if the US would allow them to create JVs in the US, rather than not allowing any sort of investment in a large amount of fields.
14. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by AmiMoJo · 2018-05-20 14:36 · Score: 1
  
  Can you blame them though? They were not happy about the US buying up half their country they have done in other places, and didn't want to become another US subsidiary.
  This is the problem with protectionism. It ends up screwing everyone more than cooperating.
  
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15. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 14:40 · Score: 0
  
  First off, you are not European and I doubt that you are Caucasian.
  Secondly, there is a HUGE difference in intentions. Europeans that are grabbing knowledge and companies in America are not about to bomb America with it. In addition, it is NOT 1-way only. We are allowed to buy land, companies, etc in over in Europe. OTOH, Your nation, china, blocks the west from doing the same thing.
  You know, I am usually called a racist for some of the things that I say that are not considered politically correct. That said, what you've written is one of the more subtly racist things I've seen here. Mind you, it's not blatantly racist like calling people n*ggers or ch*nks but it's clearly racist.
  Do you really feel better knowing that acquiring corporations are run by and headquartered in countries with white people versus non-white people? White is right, am I right?
  To address one of your points, I very, very seriously doubt China has an intention to bomb the U.S. Steal all of the U.S.'s critical IP (commercial and military) and dethrone the dollar as the dominant reserve currency, yes. But a war of guns, tanks, battleships, bombers, and missiles? Even I, a person who some (SJWs and other idiots destroying western civilization) would say has a somewhat McCarthyist streak think that is a ridiculous statement. China wants to be economically dominant and will only pursue military dominance to protect its economic interests and its historical, territorial interests.
  About the only thing I agree with you is that the U.S. should do what it can to prevent China from acquiring American IP. The reasoning for this is that China seeks to disrupt the U.S.-centric economic order, of which I am a beneficiary, by playing in the game the U.S. has set up but not fully following the implicit guidelines. I feel that a Chinese economic order would be even more corrupt than the mess the U.S. has fallen into over the past 30 or so years.
16. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by CaffeinatedBacon · 2018-05-20 16:00 · Score: 1
  
  You are right, they don't have a magic box, they have several. Whoever 'donates' enough money to fill up their box first, gets to write the laws they want.
17. Re: Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 16:04 · Score: 0
  
  Yeah....as if half the US isn't named "Sanchez" these days...... *facepalm*
18. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by CaffeinatedBacon · 2018-05-20 16:17 · Score: 1
  
  What the fuck are you talking about? You can set up Wholly Foreign Owned Enterprise in China.
  
  A Wholly Foreign-Owned Enterprise (WFOE, sometimes incorrectly WOFE) is a common investment vehicle for mainland China-based business wherein foreign parties (individuals or corporate entities) can incorporate a foreign-owned limited liability company.[1] The unique feature of a WFOE is that involvement of a mainland Chinese investor is not required, unlike most other investment vehicles (most notably, a sino-foreign joint venture).
19. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by drinkypoo · 2018-05-20 22:48 · Score: 1
  
  Picasso/SteveJobs:
  Sounds like an AI that designs spectacularly reliable computers with trapezoidal screens and all the ports on the wrong sides.
  
  "good artists copy, great artists steal"
  They're not artists at anything but copying. They're not artists, they're understudies. Except they're not studying how to do it in the first place, just how to copy it. It's not a bad strategy, it's quite canny in fact. But it's still a limiting strategy. The whole "nail that sticks up gets hammered down" thing is turning America into a turd as we speak.
  
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20. Re:Their LEGAL ongoing efforts? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-21 03:47 · Score: 0
  
  It's entirely up to the government's discretion as to whether they will consider your company/industry "of national interest" and actually allow you to do that. You can bet if your company is going to be very profitable, they will.
The Chinese are not your friend by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 05:38 · Score: 0

There is a blurred line between Chinese Americans and Chinese in America, they are not the same thing and should not be treated the same.
1. Re: The Chinese are not your friend by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 05:49 · Score: 1
  
  Pre Communist Chinese Americans and the more recent arrivals... Big difference.
  My family came during the gold rush transcontinental railroad times... That China doesn't exist anymore and doesn't inspire any loyalty (other than food)
2. Re: The Chinese are not your friend by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 06:08 · Score: 0
  
  It's the newer cohort we have to be worried about, using China national assets specifically to buy up as much of the unguarded US mainland as possible as a macroeconomic strategy. The money needs to be followed and these sales limited.
  It "sounds" racist in a sense but it's really not about the people individually or even bloc racially, it's about the government of China being allowed massive influence and in fact strategic control over US economic production sectors wholesale.
3. Re: The Chinese are not your friend by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 07:10 · Score: 0
  
  The United States elected someone who is privatizing as much of the United States as possible. He extorted $500M for his own in the most recent trade negotiation.
  If someone is selling, can you really blame the buyer?
4. Re: The Chinese are not your friend by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 07:29 · Score: 0
  
  That's kind of alongside my point, that we should not be allowing such things to go on. There needs to be an awareness of the influence of state sponsors of acquisition.
5. Re: The Chinese are not your friend by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 14:45 · Score: 0
  
  Before blaming Trump (it used to be that everything bad that happened was G. W. Bush's fault), can we point the finger at who really screwed the U.S. hard? That would be Bill Clinton who granted China most-favored nation status, which enabled American executives to offshore everything to China, impoverish much of what was the middle class, and has made China wealthy enough to attempt acquisitions of American assets.
  Prior to Clinton, China didn't have two nickels to rub together to buy any American asset of note.
smart on china's part by WindBourne · 2018-05-20 05:46 · Score: 1

many of us have been saying that CHina is about destroying the west. So far, they have been getting big in academia, bringing in others from their nations, and then sending them home. Just as Manufacturing was taken from America, china will take R*D from here. And again, I will say that CONgress, esp the GOP but dems are complicit as well, along with MBAs in our businesses, are the main cause of this.

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1. Re:smart on china's part by HiThere · 2018-05-20 07:42 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  The effect may be destroying the west, but that isn't the goal. The goal is building up China. The ways they are doing it are little different than those used by the US during the late 1700's and early 1800's.
  The thing that's destroying the west isn't China building up, but the US decaying, letting it's infrastructure collapse, and dismantling its industrial capabilities.
  Now if you were to claim that China is trying to become more powerful than the West, I'd agree. That's a real truth.
  Note that this is in clear distinction to certain religious fanatics who actually *are* trying to destroy the US. (And they aren't all of any one particular faith.)
  
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2. Re:smart on china's part by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 16:36 · Score: 0
  
  Yes, yes you have. But you haven't shown any evidence. Just racist fear. Of course you have a lot of support from other fearful racists.
Re:Why are FOREIGNERS allowed to own US land? by WindBourne · 2018-05-20 05:49 · Score: 1

why should we NOT allow foreigners to own land? There is no reason why not. And yes, that includes the Chinese. That is not a problem.

There are plenty of other issues that we need to address.

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Japanese and koreans by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 05:58 · Score: 0

The Japanese and Koreans have been doing this for decades (since the 80's)...
Don't underestimate Americans. It's a challenge for sure but I am optimistic on our chances. By allowing them to come here, we institutionalized the brain drain and everyone wanted to come here for school and to start their own company. That made it required to be here in some capacity and gave us the pole position in every new market.
Why give that up?
Re: Why are FOREIGNERS allowed to own US land? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 06:13 · Score: 0

why should we NOT allow foreigners to own land?
Because allowing it inherently destroys the sovereignty of any country allowing it. You can't have a functioning, independent, sovereign nation when land, property and other resources are owned and controlled be foreign entities.
Re: Why are FOREIGNERS allowed to own US land? by WindBourne · 2018-05-20 06:19 · Score: 1

controlled? Yes.
BUT, that is not the case.

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Deport all CHICOM slants by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 06:25 · Score: 0

They are a threat to the entire planet. They are a hive of insectoid people who serve their Xin Xiao PIng - the Bug Emperor. They are building cheap, garbage islands in the pacific to serve the Bug Emperor.
If the CHICOM succeed in their objectives, your children will live in a nightmare world of total surveillance, living on giant piles of garbage and eating industrial waste.
1. Re: Deport all CHICOM slants by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 08:31 · Score: 0
  
  It must be horrible to live in constant fear and stupidity. Your children must be pretty f'ed up if you teach them your values.
Not a problem, we can copy the successful ones by drnb · 2018-05-20 06:27 · Score: 1

Not a problem. If a particular "chinese" startup demonstrates success, is gaining traction, etc then someone in the US could always create a copycat product.
1. Re:Not a problem, we can copy the successful ones by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 07:14 · Score: 0
  
  Copy the design ... that was stolen from you? Seems like a roundabout way of development
2. Re:Not a problem, we can copy the successful ones by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 07:46 · Score: 0
  
  I prefer to create artificial limitations and artificial rarity. Eye-Pee is great for everyone! Bonus if you can pay off a politician to extend your control for 144 years.
Re:Why are FOREIGNERS allowed to own US land? by drinkypoo · 2018-05-20 06:31 · Score: 4, Insightful

why should we NOT allow foreigners to own land? There is no reason why not. And yes, that includes the Chinese. That is not a problem.

Reciprocity. Long before Trump was running for president, or Obama for that matter, it seemed dumb to me that the situation with China was so lopsided. They should have to partner with US companies to do business here, they shouldn't be allowed to own land here, etc., until they change those policies for their own nation. China's global success is in part due to those restrictions, and letting them stand without opposition only motivates them to keep them.

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Or is it intellectual theft? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 06:46 · Score: 0

It won't take long until you see it for sale on Alibaba.
Re: Why are FOREIGNERS allowed to own US land? by ShanghaiBill · 2018-05-20 07:01 · Score: 1

Are you afraid that if the foreigners get mad at us, they will pack up the land and take it home?
In most countries, there are no restrictions on foreigners owning land. Can you point a an example of this ever resulting in a "loss of sovereignty"?
Called it years ago... by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 07:05 · Score: 0

As someone in IT, we've been seeing this for quite a while. They'll go so far as to poach from our demo teams under various auspicious but typically logisitics and technical restrictions. Requiring your software to be installed on their VMs, in their Datacenters, by them and provide documents on how to do it.. For a demo.
China is only one of several countries engaged in it too. Not surprising it isn't the only Asian one but you can add places like India to the list. They are literally sucking the IP out of the US while politicians get paid with blood/oil money.
The wolves have been circling so long...
Made In America. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 07:13 · Score: 0

In electronic technology, it will have competition for masses.
It is very similar to japanese companies in America decades ago, for example, Sony, Toshiba, Toyota, Mitsubishi, etc.
It translates to much money of investments in America.
I do not know if there are infringements of the called Intellectual Property.
Re:Why are FOREIGNERS allowed to own US land? by aix+tom · 2018-05-20 07:22 · Score: 1, Insightful

Well, isn't the entire US *Build* on the idea of "foreigners grabbing the land of the natives"? ;-P
Maybe they'll make better investments by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 07:52 · Score: 0

I wonder how many Chinese investors threw their money at "innovative" startups like Juicero.
Copying business models and software is easy. I don't think any Silicon Valley startups are innovating in a way that can't be easily copied.
It's so funny by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 08:00 · Score: 0

Wouldn't it be funny to find out that, in the long game, socialism and communism work better than capitalism? Think about it - capitalism is all about profits for today, even if that means wrecking and/or selling off the country.
Re: Why are FOREIGNERS allowed to own US land? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 08:06 · Score: 1

Uh, yeah.
Texas is a pretty famous one.

Texas was very sparsely populated, with fewer than 3,500 residents,[Note 3] and only about 200 soldiers,[12][13] which made it extremely vulnerable to attacks by native tribes and American filibusters.[14] In the hopes that an influx of settlers could control the Indian raids, the bankrupt Mexican government liberalized immigration policies for the region. Finally able to settle legally in Texas, Anglos from the United States soon vastly outnumbered the Tejanos.[Note 4][15][16] Most of the immigrants came from the southern United States. Many were slave owners, and most brought with them significant prejudices against other races, attitudes often applied to the Tejanos. Mexico's official religion was Roman Catholicism, yet the majority of the immigrants were Protestants who distrusted Catholics.[17]
A map of Mexico, showing state and territory divisions as of 1835. Texas, Coahila, Nuevo León, Tamaulipas, Zacatecas and the Yucatán are shaded, marking them as having separatist movements.
A map of Mexico, 1835–1846, showing administrative divisions. The red areas show regions where separatist movements were active.
Mexican authorities became increasingly concerned about the stability of the region.[7] The colonies teetered at the brink of revolt in 1829, after Mexico abolished slavery.[18] In response, President Anastasio Bustamante implemented the Laws of April 6, 1830, which, among other things, prohibited further immigration to Texas from the United States, increased taxes, and reiterated the ban on slavery.[19] Settlers simply circumvented or ignored the laws. By 1834, an estimated 30,000 Anglos lived in Coahuila y Tejas,[20] compared to only 7,800 Mexican-born residents.[21] By the end of 1835, almost 5,000 enslaved Africans and African Americans lived in Texas, making up 13 percent of the non-Indian population.[22]
In 1832, Antonio López de Santa Anna led a revolt to overthrow Bustamante.[23][24] Texians, or English-speaking settlers, used the rebellion as an excuse to take up arms. By mid-August, all Mexican troops had been expelled from east Texas.[25] Buoyed by their success, Texians held two political conventions to persuade Mexican authorities to weaken the Laws of April 6, 1830.[26] In November 1833, the Mexican government attempted to address some of the concerns, repealing some sections of the law and granting the colonists further concessions,[27] including increased representation in the state legislature.[28] Stephen F. Austin, who had brought the first American settlers to Texas, wrote to a friend that "Every evil complained of has been remedied."[29] Mexican authorities were quietly watchful, concerned that the colonists were maneuvering towards secession.[30][31]
And we know how that went.
Um, I guess ALL OF AMERICA too.

The colony of New Amsterdam was centered at the site which would eventually become Lower Manhattan. In 1626, the Dutch colonial Director-General Peter Minuit, acting as charged by the Dutch West India Company, purchased the island of Manhattan from the Canarsie, a small Lenape band,[94] for 60 guilders[95] (about $1,000 in 2006).
I guess you can ask the Indians in their ghettos, um I mean reservations, how that went.
Are people really this ignorant?
And China is doing the same with its neighbors slowly. Vancouver too.
Is today tuesday? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 08:09 · Score: 0

Does slashdot believe in IP today?
Most days it doesn't. But oh, today's different! It's China doing the coping. That's so different. Maybe we believe in IP today.
But tomorrow? It's imaginary property again.
From a technologys standpoint by rsilvergun · 2018-05-20 08:20 · Score: 1

American is having to rely heavily on foreign scientists immigrating here. This is going to accelerate because, well, we slashed funding to schools in the 90s and kept at it through the 2000s. Schools don't have enough space for the qualified applicants. After all, why pay for your own schools if you can get other countries to do it for you?

Trouble is those immigrant scientists don't have a lot of attachment to the country. Now, if you're a wealthy billionaire nationalism is kind of pointless. You're investments are global and so are you. But if you're a working class stiff you're lucky if the fees from your 401k don't make your contributions a wash. You're very much local.

What I'm saying is, we need to invest more in home grown talent that'll be loyal to the community and want to see it prosper. And by 'we' I mean those of us who live off our work instead of live off our investments.

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1. Re:From a technologys standpoint by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 14:22 · Score: 0
  
  Or get rid of the international investors.
  That's another issue that affects everyone regardless of state.
  Someone who's wealth isn't tied to one particular state is difficult to hold accountable. (Note: I'm using the term 'state' to refer to a country here.) If they can simply flee to greener pastures to no ill effect, they will do so every single time given enough resources to do so. Given enough resources they will also have the lead time to pack up and leave comfortably before the local authorities can catch up to them or indeed are even aware of their miss givings.
  That's not a situation that should be encuraged by any state. Sure you may benifit from them coming to you for safe harbor, but you should know that they will do the same to you and yours given the chance.
  Simply put, International Investments are the individual's "Too big to fail."
2. Re:From a technologys standpoint by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 14:55 · Score: 0
  
  American is having to rely heavily on foreign scientists immigrating here. This is going to accelerate because, well, we slashed funding to schools in the 90s and kept at it through the 2000s.
  Of, the U.S. could stop importing foreign scientists which would reduce supply and increase wages in those fields. Then, more Americans would pursue degrees and careers in STEM because it would pay well and not be a constant target for H-1B visa monkeys. As it is, many of America's best and brightest aspire to shuffle paper on Wall Street because very few desk jobs pay that kind of money.
Re:Why are FOREIGNERS allowed to own US land? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 08:41 · Score: 0

No, it's built on it. I wish stupid wops like you would learn the difference,.
Re:Why are FOREIGNERS allowed to own US land? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 09:06 · Score: 0

China would be extremely happy to partner with US companies. I doubt this would change any of the rhetoric.
Jìng-Yáng! by Going_Digital · 2018-05-20 10:05 · Score: 1

Jìng-Yáng has finally taken over from Eric Buckman.
Re: Serves America right by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 10:34 · Score: 0

More like too busy fighting off the smelly hindu chimps that keep coming over. Even thought they're unwanted and their culture is subhuman.
Piss off by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 11:47 · Score: 0

Chinese are bros. China is a chill place for a white guy to live.
Americans on the other hand are nobodies friend. (With friends like these, who needs enemies).
The yank is an eternal calvinist at heart, and will throw you under a bus, or sell his own grandmother in hopeless pursuit of salvation.
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New Pied Piper by hackel · 2018-05-20 12:23 · Score: 1

Chinese company ideas:
New Snapchat
New Facebook
New Zillow
New Expedia
New Reddit
New Grubhub
New Spotify
New Kickstarter
New Pied Piper
Silicon Valley is Full of Young White Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 13:35 · Score: 0

Asians, and not all of them Chinese, are probably the second largest group but honestly how often do you hear about a startup with Chinese founders here in the United States? Are there really all that many startups in Silicon Valley that would be willing to relocate to China? I don't know for certain, but I suspect that the number of startup founders willing to relocate their firms to China could fit in an elevator with room to dance. And even if they could convince those startup founders to relocate to China what about their employees? Most of the capital in a tech startup is in the people, their skills and the ideas in their heads. Many of these employees are going to be young, male, American born and white. Does anybody honestly believe that many startup employees would be willing to relocate to China? Finally, as we all saw with the Google Project Maven debacle, there is a strong dislike for military or defense related applications of technology in Silicon Valley and the Chinese have been aggressive and public about trumpeting their military ambitions and their desire to acquire technology for use in military programs or to further oppress minority groups in China and the Chinese people themselves. How can young Americans, who fancy themselves as progressive and enlightened, agree to to work for an authoritarian government bent on military hegemony in Asia? I think the Chinese are barking up the wrong tree, but if they want to play the role of the fool then I have no doubt that they will find somebody in Silicon Valley who is willing to waste their time and money.
1. Re:Silicon Valley is Full of Young White Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 16:31 · Score: 0
  
  Less than 1/2 of billion dollar startups are started by American's https://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2...
You entitled racist asshole. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 16:06 · Score: 0

You entitled racist asshole. You have just as much 'right' to buy land as any Chinese person does. There are plenty of foreign owned companies in China.
China doesn't stop people from coming to study in China and then take that knowledge home with them. What are you talking about?
1. Re: You entitled racist asshole. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-21 03:16 · Score: 0
  
  This is not true, you ignorant fool. Chinese has strict ownership controls on real estate and corporations.
Chinese locusts...... by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 16:13 · Score: 0

......need controlling.
Time for some nuclear powered DDT perhaps ???
Re:Why are FOREIGNERS allowed to own US land? by CaffeinatedBacon · 2018-05-20 16:41 · Score: 1

Because it pushes up the prices and makes it too expensive for locals to buy.
Then there are security implications. Do you really want Chinese/Russian interests buying up land outside all your important ports and military bases?
Why not sell all your farms to China, what could go wrong?
And the number one draw for startups is.... by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 20:15 · Score: 0

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/technology-company-alibaba-posts-job-advert-asking-for-stunning-women-with-qualities-of-adult-film-10223902.html
Meanwhile in sausage-fest Silicon Valley you can't find a girl and if you do , you'll need to plan a way to ask her out in a way that cannot be construed as sexual harassment
1. Re: And the number one draw for startups is.... by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-20 21:46 · Score: 0
  
  Can't make this shit up:
  "Screenshots of the advertisement have been widely shared on social media, with the first job requirement translated as: Your appearance is adequately stunning to programmers. Even a quick glance at you should excite and inspire them greatly."
go back to fox loser by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-21 15:00 · Score: 0

Of course it's true you even more ignorant fool. Neither Chinese or foreigners can buy land in China. Only lease it. so exactly the same right zero.
Different places have different rules for leasing property too, even Chinese can't just go to another city and 'buy a house'. Plenty of foreigners 'buy houses' in China.
Every place has rules of ownership for corporations, you can set up foreign owned companies in China with no local partners etc etc.
Re: Why are FOREIGNERS allowed to own US land? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-22 06:53 · Score: 0

Every country on the planet that was/is successful started out with protecting their internal market and take as much IP from abroad as possible, same goes for the US that was very protective them selves until well after WWII. The story how it âstoleâ(TM) the IP for textile âweavingâ(TM) from the UK is a fun thing to read up on.