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Snapchat CEO Says Facebook Copied Its Features, But Not Its Values (axios.com)

Snapchat's CEO, Evan Spiegel, told an industry crowd that he doesn't obsess over Facebook's habit of adapting his social network's ideas. From a report: "I think it bothers my wife more than it bothers me," Spiegel said at the Code Conference Tuesday evening. "Fundamentally, it is important to understand that Snapchat is not just a bunch of features." [...] Referencing Snapchat's most famous feature -- posts vanish after 24 hours -- Spiegel quipped, "Maybe Facebook should copy Snapchat's data retention policies."

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    1. Re:GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE GNAA GNAA GNAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    2. Re:GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE GNAA GNAA GNAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

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    3. Re:GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE GNAA GNAA GNAA by BeauHD++(.)+(349) · · Score: -1

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    4. Re: GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE GNAA GNAA GNAA by stroxor · · Score: 1

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    5. Re:GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE GNAA GNAA GNAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    6. Re:GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE GNAA GNAA GNAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    7. Re:GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE GNAA GNAA GNAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  2. Who copied whom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook is older than Snapchat.

    1. Re:Who copied whom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook is both older and copied Snapchat.

    2. Re:Who copied whom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would only make sense if something ever visibly changed on Facebook.
      The only change I've noticed since 2008 is that stupid Messenger crap, that makes it so I have to log into Facebook on my computer (rather than in the Tinfoil app) in order to read a private message (or just clear the notifications of private messages).

  3. "posts vanish after 24 hours" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yeah, shuuure they do...

    1. Re:"posts vanish after 24 hours" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh wait he's serious, let me laugh even harder!

  4. values by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yes, advertising to 8-12 yr olds getting them to buy games and energy drinks and eat tide pods is totally moral. Love your business model Evan, so much better.

  5. In Other Words by DatbeDank · · Score: 1

    Snap hat's stock won't be worth much very very soon.

  6. Worry about the things that matter by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    I'd be more worried about the Spectacles fiasco and the fact that you are doubling down on failure by trying to resurrect them.

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  7. Offer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    1. Re: Offer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not everyone values being set for life. Not me though, I'd have taken that check on the spot.

  8. Salty CEO Is Salty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you know that this guy is married to Miranda Kerr?

    Does he not realize that her preferred platform is Instagram? https://www.instagram.com/mirandakerr/

    I don;t think she's as upset as he might think.

    1. Re: Salty CEO Is Salty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A billion dollars will buy almost anything apparently

    2. Re: Salty CEO Is Salty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as long as you think you need a billion dollars...you do.

  9. Facebook did copy their values, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Facebook did copy Snapchat's values - to the same place they store all of Facebook's values:

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  11. CEO: "My wife is...upset..." by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    >> CEO: "My wife is...upset..."

    Board and Shareholders: "Then go home and play with your kids. Where's our money?"

    1. Re:CEO: "My wife is...upset..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Evan Spiegel: You see, my wife, she has been most vocal on the subject of the Snapchat monies. "Where's the money?" "When are you going to get the money?" "Why aren't you getting the money now?" And so on. So please, the money.

  12. Data retention policy? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    What next, they should copy Snapchat's poor income and tiny net worth while they are at it?

  13. Opera by slapout · · Score: 1

    Opera was unavailable for comment.

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  14. Copying by DrYak · · Score: 2

    That would only make sense if something ever visibly changed on Facebook.

    Facebook (the company) has visibly copied several features from the Snapchat (app) into their own collection of apps :
      - Instastories (ephemeral "top posts" by users) is basically on of the main features lifted from Snapchat.
      - Status posts in WhatsApp is yet another attempt at the same features in yet another Facebook-owned app.
      - Instagram also cloned nearly identically lots of post-processing that Snapchat. Instead of sticking to the "color filiter to copy the crappy quality of old photo gears used by hipsters" that initially started Instagram, there are now emoji stickers, effects, etc.

    Basically Mark Zuckerberg knows that nothing is eternal. He has seen how MySpace eventually went out of fashion and how the generation after that went to Facebook. He knows that Facebook won't be eternal neither, and that eventually people will move to something else, too : Most of its userbase has now become moms and dads, and their kids aren't hanging in the some online places.

    Mark has thus been fervently buying all the things showing chances of being "the next big thing". As WhatsApp and Intagram started to become popular among milenials, they where acquired by Facebook.
    It turned to be a wise strategy : they are now major social networks.

    But then came Snapchat - the thing that is currently popular with kids.
    Except that this time round, despite all his offers and attempts, the Zuck couldn't buy them.

    So, cloning the most popular feature from Snapchat into the apps that Facebook owns has been the alternative strategy to retain user base as much as possible.
    Snapchat became popular with kids for two reasons : the perceived ephemeral messages (there is no "history", once it's gone, it's supposed to be definitely gone. And not everyone is a /. geek enough to know that nothing is really ever gone online) and the crazy amount of real-time video manipulation filters, stickers, etc.
    Facebook cloned as much of it as possible.

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