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Kaspersky Suits Tossed, Fed Bans Will Continue (axios.com)
A Washington D.C. court has dismissed Kaspersky Lab's lawsuits against the U.S. government over two different rules banning Kaspersky products from federal systems. From a report: Both a federal law passed as part of last years National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA,) and a binding operational directive (BOD) issued by the Department of Homeland Security, prohibit federal agencies from using Kaspersky products. Both portrayed Kaspersky, a Moscow based company, as a national security risk. Kaspersky sued to prevent the two rules from coming into place, claiming the NDAA was a form of unlawful punishment against a specific company known as a bill of attainder. The judge reasoned that "The NDAA does not inflict 'punishment' on Kaspersky Lab. It eliminates a perceived risk to the Nation's cybersecurity and, in so doing, has the secondary effect of foreclosing one small source of revenue for a large multinational corporation." Because the NDAA ruling remains in effect, the judge ruled the BOD case was more or less a moot point. Further reading: Who's Afraid of Kaspersky?, and US Government Can't Get Controversial Kaspersky Lab Software Off Its Networks.
This decision is the correct one. Putin’s puppet can go choke on a bucket of dicks.
Putin's Puppet belongs in a jail cell, not the White House.
Moscow Donald's co-conspirators are already facing serious criminal charges, with more to come for those who haven't plead guilty and decided to help America instead of betraying us.
Treason isn't just illegal. It's wrong.
Shove it up your putin hole!
I recall saying that these cases would be thrown out... Seems I was right.
College has become a joke. When dumb people can get a degree, what is the degree worth?
There are too many colleges and too many graduates.
You don't sue government for hurting your business...
The government just ends your business...
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
There is suppose to be a constitutional protection against this sort of crap but judges frequently suck and rule based on emotion and twisted logic. A great example of that is the sex offender rulings where they punish people who have been convicted of a sex offense prior to the laws enactment. The argument is the same in that the judges said "it's not punishment" to prohibit a sex offender from basically living anywhere other than under a bridge because the law effectively outlaws living anywhere remotely near a park/school/any place kids may hang out/etc and as a result in a city that is effectively everywhere. Of course it is punishment regardless of your twisted logic! It's like saying restricting black people from voting isn't punishment because black people didn't do anything wrong. OK-sure- but it's still punishing them- it's just not because they did anything wrong and your a bigoted piece of shit. You've selected a particular group of individuals or entity in this case for exclusion and it's not based on any rational argument. Now I do think we should ban proprietary software from use by government(s). Full stop. And I think corporations shouldn't either- but I'm against the use of violence to achieve social and political objectives. That's just wrong. Mandating sources is based on genuine security issues rather than emotional nonsense and how laws are unfortunately not written. But really the government should be so small that none of this is even possible.
"It eliminates a perceived risk to the Nation's cybersecurity and, in so doing, has the secondary effect of foreclosing one small source of revenue for a large multinational corporation."
So, if it were a small company whose sole source of income was the business from the government, it would be OK to endanger national security? Major flaw in the reasoning there, and even I can see how it opens the door to a valid appeal of his opinion. IANAL.
FTA:
Couldn't Kaspersky sidestep this issue by *not* uploading any content? Or is this ban in effect because they could theoretically upload, even if they don't?
That being the case, wouldn't it stand to reason that they should simultaneously prohibit *ALL* software written by any agency outside of the US which might have similar laws with regards to data collection, and not just single out Kaspersky labs?
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
They don't play ball with the US regime.
Of course in Russia, I might use something else.
Just like I use only Chinese phones in the EUSA and EUSA phones in China.
it's basically the U.S. government admitting that Kaspersky is too good, it keeps most of the U.S-made spyware out, and they refuse to let the government in when they ask while the other vendors are too afraid to have sanctions levied against them, so they just play ball.
Here in Germany, you suddenly see Kaspersky installed everywhere.
Cause now we know, they do not play along with (at least US) government pressure.
Especially when one tracked the entire process of pulling a bullshit chain of reasoning from its humble attached-to-nothing roots, reminding one of the behavior of Eastern Germany and Soviet Russia.
Of course I'd take the strong underdog in Russia too, if I lived there. As people there do, cause unlike the USA, nobody there doesn't know or tries to hide that the government is crap. :)
The only thing I still have to check, is if gpvernments are playing such theater plays merely to get their opponents to fall for the trojan horse.
But who's this Fed Bans fellow?
laws require you be spied upon. #MAGA
if they want to be in more computers, offer a free version, like other antiviruses
basically they have the best antivirus, a lot of people would use it if they had a free version
you know what? them not having a free version does not compute, if they are really after "my secrets" and spying everyone, they would have one, that would put them in MORE computers not in less computers
I think the americans lie, and them not having a free version is the most obvious clue, Look at microsoft, its spying software and they give it away for free
So is it back to the Warm-ups or perhaps Chinos and Polos?
They want to ban Kaspersky because it is able to find the NSA's or "Equation Group's" malware. Kaspersky did nothing wrong. They just make too good a product for the NSA's comfort.
The TPP would have prevented this. It doesn't allow laws that interfere with profits. Captcha: greedily
Both the US and Russians need to continue to funnel 100s of millions into their military, black ops, surveillance programs. Kaspersky is the unwitting poster child to help scare their respective citizens and help fill the stomach of the beast that - ironically - threatens our very freedoms.