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Google's In-House Incubator Made a Waze-Like App For the New York City Subway (theverge.com)

Google's in-house startup incubator Area 120 has developed a new app to help New York City subway commuters avoid delays. An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: The app, called Pigeon, is live on Apple's App Store, but access is still limited to those with an invitation code. Its developers say the app can help commuters choose routes that avoid delays and crowds other users report. Google Maps and the MTA's own website already provide information on what trains aren't working. But Pigeon will also allow users to post specific comments and note annoying incidents, such as loud street performers. It sounds more like a social media app for New Yorkers to commiserate on their miserable commutes.

After you download Pigeon, it'll prompt you to allow location services multiple times. Once inside the app, there are cute pigeons all over the subway map, but tapping on them right away doesn't seem to do anything. The app's functionality is extremely reliant on what people report (hence the large purple Report button at the bottom of the screen). Pigeon's traffic reports sound just like Google's Waze app but exclusively for the New York subway system.

28 comments

  1. Paid version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The paid version includes the locations of muggers and hookers.

    1. Re:Paid version by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      The paid version includes the locations of muggers and hookers.

      LOL....

      Man, I'm glad I live where I'm not so densely packed with other people and dependent upon public transportation like this for my daly life.

      I guess it suits some, but not my cup of tea.

      We have some street cars down here,which are fun to ride on occasion, but I'd hate to depends on that or a subway system like NYC.

      From all recent accounts, it sounds miserable....

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    2. Re:Paid version by PPH · · Score: 1

      Hobo piss heat map.

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    3. Re:Paid version by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 1

      Used to be a lot quicker and more reliable, but, back then, it also tended to be dirty and a bit dangerous. I don't mind using it when I'm there (mainly weekends) because all other options are vastly worse.

  2. Slashdot is up for another 5 minutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quick, post something meaningful which will just be ignored since nobody can see it or reply for another 6 hours...

    1. Re:Slashdot is up for another 5 minutes by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      I cannot change the laws of physics, Anonymous Coward! I've got to have thirty mi{#`%${%&`+'${`%&NO CARRIER

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  3. Dangerous traffic jam by stroxor · · Score: 1

    Really uninteresting pile of bullshit made by medieval knight shot by a pike.

    1. Re:Dangerous traffic jam by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      I used to be a subway user like you, but then I took a pike in the knee.

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  4. Only useful if there are viable alternative routes by ardmhacha · · Score: 2

    Almost all the time there will not be any useful alternatives to get to your destination. If you are already on the subway there is most likely no quicker alternative. If you check the app before you travel and you happen to be somewhere where there are multiple lines it might be useful but if the delay happens after you start you are probably stuck.

  5. Re:Only useful if there are viable alternative rou by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also, my experience is that when you discover you're in a slowdown in the subway, you're probably between stations which do not have the best cell phone reception so reporting the slowdown may be difficult.

  6. Re:Only useful if there are viable alternative rou by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just avoid the Lexington Ave 4,5,6 during rush hour, you don't even need an app for that. Unfortunately there are no alternative on the east side, so for this app to be useful you gonna have to be on the west.

  7. G P S by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    works great underground!

    1. Re:G P S by Bitbeard · · Score: 1

      Yes. By definition aren't subways ... subterranean?

  8. Re:Only useful if there are viable alternative rou by nine-times · · Score: 1

    Almost all the time there will not be any useful alternatives to get to your destination.

    That's not really true. There are some instances where there isn't any viable alternative. It's not that unusual that there's an alternate subway or bus route that will take you to the same approximate location. If a train is going to take long enough, sometimes it even makes more sense to walk than to wait.

  9. Location services? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    ”After you download Pigeon, it'll prompt you to allow location services multiple times.”

    How does that work in the subway?

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    1. Re:Location services? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      âAfter you download Pigeon, it'll prompt you to allow location services multiple times.â

      How does that work in the subway?

      Because a phone doesn't rely solely on GPS? Localion services on phones can rely on 4 different types of signals to triangulate position - 2 are GNSS based - GPS and GLOSNASS (and some are having Galileo support too). The other two are WiFi and cellular.

      Both Apple and Google use WiFi for triangulation where GNSS signals are absent, like indoors and underground. Apple devices generally cache it so even lack of a signal still allows for navigation (this was the cause of "Apple is tracking me!!!!" thing a few years ago when that cache file was discovered). This requires a network connection to get the navigation data of course, and it can be precise enough that even non-GPS equipped devices tethered to the Internet can do navigation.

      The last method is cellular, which basically tries to examine nearby cell towers to get location, the same way it works for WiFi. Less accurate, but generally good in places where WiFi may be spotty or in less urban areas.

    2. Re:Location services? by RailRide · · Score: 1

      Out of curiosity, I've been using Google Maps' timeline feature to log my commute times and the various paths I take between home and work to see which one offers the shortest travel times. It's not as clear-cut as it would seem, since in my particular corner of NYC, between various combinations of subways and buses, there are upwards of 14 different routes I could take to make the trip without going very far out of my way.

      As for location services underground, I have found that if you connect to the WiFi service offered in the underground stations (Transit Wireless) then your phone can get a location fix within a few seconds of establishing a connection to their access points as you move from station to station. Using a navigation app to keep the GPS active, you can watch the pointer indicating your position on the map jump from station to station as the phone re-acquires Transit Wireless at each stop. Naturally, this doesn't work between stations..

      (protip: "singledigits.com" is the redirect to the Transit Wireless portal page if your default browser complains that it can't reach the Web upon getting its connection)

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  10. This app probably uses predictive analytics by billrp · · Score: 1

    With a history of actual travel times and delays the app probably does an "educated guess" ie predictive analytics to find the best combo of bus/subway/walking to get to your destination. When I was in high school I had about 4 choices for each direction, each taking about 45 minutes without delays or outages; this app would have been useful.

  11. Waze or Moovit? by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

    The app sounds more like Moovit, which is used to route through public transportation (generally buses and trains), than Waze. Are New Yorkers driving their cars in the subway now?

    1. Re: Waze or Moovit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well we won't hear about moovit because it doesn't have the magic publicity key words. No [amazon,Apple,Google,Microsoft] then no publicity, thems the rulz

  12. where's the innovation by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

    It seems Google really has run out of innovation. I guess they will just have to forget this dull "making products" stuff, and double down on their main plan: Making an evil AI to wipe out mankind.

    1. Re:where's the innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what have you made lately? Seems like all you do is post sanctimonious screeds putting down others to puff yourself up.

  13. Re:Only useful if there are viable alternative rou by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

    Almost all the time there will not be any useful alternatives to get to your destination. If you are already on the subway there is most likely no quicker alternative. If you check the app before you travel and you happen to be somewhere where there are multiple lines it might be useful but if the delay happens after you start you are probably stuck.

    Not really, well-connected public transit systems often have multiple ways to get to the same destination. Heck, there are plenty of popular YouTube videos that take the challenge of going between two subway stations by getting off on one, running to the other, and boarding the same train.

    And often the place I'm going to is between stations, so it's a tossup to which station I should get off at and walking. This app could easily tell you which way is better (we got into an argument at work over this - there were two stations you could stop at and which was better to use).

    And often times, there are multiple routes you can take, so if one is a bit slower, it can be better to take the alternative.

    In places with barely a public transit system, yes, it's too constrained and alternatives are generally terrible. But if you have a well connected system, often the optimal path is something highly debated amongst travellers.

  14. I'm not surprised the slightest.. by Z80a · · Score: 1

    That google has an inhouse incubator, I bet he handles all the contracts and desires of the employees.

    And make em dress like magical girls to fight off witches from time to time.

  15. Q Re:Only useful if there are viable alternatives by FlaSheridn · · Score: 1

    Check out the Q (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(New_York_City_Subway_service)).

  16. As a semi-frequent visitor... by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 1

    This will be useful for me and folks like me. I don't live near the city, but do visit from time to time, often on weekends when there are planned service disruptions in addition to the countless unplanned disruptions and delays that I'm told happen 24/7/365. I have very basic familiarity with the subways, but not enough to know the best ways around them. But I'm also not going to try to drive or park in Manhattan, nor do I have the bus routes memorized, nor do I wish to walk with my kids at night through Flatbush or East New York if my branch of the A train goes missing for no obvious reason.

  17. Re:Only useful if there are viable alternative rou by DavidHumus · · Score: 1

    No alternatives except for walking, biking, bus, taxi, Lyft...

  18. Re: Only useful if there are viable alternative ro by stroxor · · Score: 1

    Whx metro? To create a diversion?