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tvOS 12 Brings Dolby Atmos Support, Zero Sign-In, and TV App Improvements (macworld.com)

If you're using an Apple TV as your main streaming box, you will be happy to know several big improvements are coming to the platform. Macworld reports of what's new in tvOS 12: With tvOS 12, Dolby Atmos comes to the Apple TV 4K. All you need for full 3D immersive audio is an Atmos-supporting sound bar or receiver. This makes Apple TV 4K the only streaming media box to be certified for both Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos.

One of the best features of tvOS 11 is called Single Sign-on. You add your TV provider's login information to your Apple TV device. If an app supports Single Sign-on, you can log in with your TV provider with just a few taps. It's a big step forward, but still a little bit of a pain. With tvOS 12, Apple makes the whole process totally seamless with Zero Sign-on. Here's how it works: If your TV provider is your Internet provider (a very common occurrence here in the United States), and your Apple TV is connected to the Internet through that provider, you sign in automatically to any Apple TV app your provider gives you access to. Just launch the app, and you're signed in, no passwords or configuration needed at all.

Apple's breathtaking 4K video screensavers, called "Aerials," is one of those minor delights that Apple TV 4K users can't get enough of. In tvOS 12, they get better. You can tap the remote to see the location at which the Aerial was filmed. A new set of Aerials is the star of the show, however. Called "Earth," these are stunning videos from space, taken by astronauts at the International Space Station.
Furthermore, the TV app will provide live content from select TV providers; Charter Spectrum will support the app with live channels and content later this year. Apple is also now allowing third-party home control systems' remotes to control your Apple TV (including Siri).

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  1. And yet by sit1963nz · · Score: 1

    And yet there is still no sign of Siri on the ATV4 for New Zealand customers.
    New Zealand has Siri on their IOS and OSX devices, we do speak English (though there is some debate about that), so there is no good reason NOT to enable it.

    1. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop fucking sheep and you can have your Siri.
      Seriously, she is offended by the sheep fucking you bloody Kiwi's

    2. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was about to tell you that you were wrong as I live in NZ, have an ATV4K which has Siri.
      Then I remembered that my iTunes account is a UK account. (BBC iPlayer anyone? ;) )
      I like Siri on iOS for setting reminders, updating calendar etc but it's not something I use on ATV.
      You aint missing much...

    3. Re:And yet by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      I've seen articles saying how New Zealand English is supported by other devices, so I'm surprised it's not on the AppleTV yet...

      I would say it seems likely to come with the iOS12 update though as they've expanded what you can do with Siri.

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    4. Re:And yet by sit1963nz · · Score: 1

      I had wondered if its because the ties NZ has to iTunes is a lot lower than other countries (ie we have zero access to TV shows).

    5. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny how few people pick up on NZ English being a different dialect. US English is to British English as British English is to NZ English. There are even support packs available to do locale changes for most OS X software.

    6. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking sheep is what you call people who use Siri

    7. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, everyone knows that if you are from New Zealand, chances are you fuck sheep. As in have sex with the actual species

    8. Re:And yet by Known+Nutter · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure it's because Siri can't understand the accent.

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    9. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a weird one indeed. If I look at my iPhone (X running 11.4) Settings for "Siri & Seach" there are 9 variations of English that can be selected.
      Australia, Canada, India, Ireland, **New Zealand**, Singapore, South Africa, United Kingdom & United States.
      So why the hell ATV doesn't support NZ English when iOS does is a bit of a mystery.
      Tried asking this question on the Apple consumer forums?
      I suspect it's to do with lack of NZ content and not the language or technology.

    10. Re:And yet by sit1963nz · · Score: 1

      well it works on my iPhone, iPad, MBP, iMac etc , just not the ATV.
      So no, accent is not the problem.

    11. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you haven't been to NZ, you haven't met anyone wants NZ English support! DUH. Are you really that dumb?

    12. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lie. Everyone knows that goat fuckers are sand n1ggers. Brits were importing sand n1ggers through the last century.

    13. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sheep and goats are not the same.

    14. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which ones fight back more? Asking for a friend.

    15. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not from NZ

    16. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently the goats. The people in NZ are more relaxed than some of those others, not so frustrated and angry at the world.

    17. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a fair point. NZ is like 3 million people and most of them are technologically backwards.

    18. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OP is from NZ,

    19. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why on Earth would I go to New Zealand? I don't even speak Zeanglish. And it's not as if sheep are "my type" if you know what I mean.

  2. BeauHD works for the Clintons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ZOG piece of shit is probably helping them traffic children as we speak.

  3. Breathless by Zaelath · · Score: 1, Insightful

    There's slashvertising and then there's this post....

    1. Re:Breathless by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Yeah... even as an Apple fan, I have trouble wondering who really gives a crap. I have several previous-generation boxes, and their reliability (or lack there of) will keep me on alternatives from now on. Still isn’t compelling for me.

    2. Re:Breathless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah... even as an Apple fan, I have trouble wondering who really gives a crap. I have several previous-generation boxes, and their reliability (or lack there of) will keep me on alternatives from now on.

      Out of curiosity, what 'lack of reliability' with an Apple TV do you see?

      I have an older one that my wife still uses, and a slightly newer one that I use ... they just work, no mucking around with them. The one my wife has is possibly a first generation of the Apple TV and no longer gets updates, but it still works after a fair few years.

      Granted, the only thing I use is Netflix and occasionally YouTube, plus streaming audio through iTunes to my stereo, but I've never seen anything I'd call a lack of reliability. In fact, it's reliable enough to never have to think about it.

      For what I need, I'd buy another pretty readily.

      Still isn't compelling for me.

      In this case, there are no apps from my TV provider that I use at all -- I can't for the life of me think of what that would even be -- so this zero login is a non-feature for me. As is Dolby Atmos, 4K, and probably most of the new stuff. Most of those 'features' I simply don't care about.

      I do like Aerial though, it's kinda cool .. knowing what I'm looking at would be interesting, because I find myself going "where the hell is this?"

    3. Re:Breathless by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Third generation reboots constantly when in use. We have two hooked up to one tv so we could switch to the backup as the first crashes. Happened primarily with Netflix. After a weekend where they both rebooted at the same time I gave up and bought a Roku. Still use them occasionally, but just for iTunes content. Switched primarily to Amazon.

  4. My AppleTV 3 is still working fine by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    I haven’t had to sign into an app for months - complaining about that would require setting a really low bar.

    But I realize Apple needs to try and sell newer hardware to people.

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    1. Re:My AppleTV 3 is still working fine by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Yeah, if this is the best feature of the new OS, then they really have run out of ideas.

      That said, I'll be happy when Netflix fixes the bug in their iOS app where, when their servers cough up a hairball and start rejecting all logins, the app promptly forgets your username and your password, forcing you to key it all in by hand again. Not that this feature will help with that at all, of course.

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    2. Re:My AppleTV 3 is still working fine by Wrath0fb0b · · Score: 1

      What's the appropriate client behavior when a server returns rejects a credential?

      It seems like 'forget the credential and prompt the user to re-enter it' is the right thing to do. Repeating the request to the server with the same credential would just be a DOS.

      If NetFlex's server is coughing up a hairball, it needs to cough up a 'temporarily unavailable' hairball so the client knows that there is nothing wrong with the request.

    3. Re:My AppleTV 3 is still working fine by Major+Blud · · Score: 1

      I haven’t had to sign into an app for months

      I feel that the cable TV providers are going to be on board with this so that they can keep people from sharing accounts.

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    4. Re:My AppleTV 3 is still working fine by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      That said, I'll be happy when Netflix fixes the bug in their iOS app where, when their servers cough up a hairball and start rejecting all logins, the app promptly forgets your username and your password,

      Netflix not only literally has this bug across all platforms, but they even have the same error code for it on all of them too. Whether it's a Wii or an Amazon Prime stick the error is something like ui-800-3? Haven't actually seen it in a while, but I've run Netflix on four non-PC devices so far and I've had the same problem with the same error on literally all of them.

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    5. Re:My AppleTV 3 is still working fine by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I haven’t had to sign into an app for months - complaining about that would require setting a really low bar.

      I don't think that's the point of single sign-on. Right now the issue is that every channel is making their own app. But the content often isn't free. Either you pay for a subscription a-la-carte or you have a cable provider which means credentials. For those people that have cable every time they get a new app or the app changes to require a reboot and lose credentials, it means that they sign-on again. As a single person the number of sign-ons might be small. For a household, it could be much larger depending on all the different tastes in that household.

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    6. Re:My AppleTV 3 is still working fine by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      It seems like 'forget the credential and prompt the user to re-enter it' is the right thing to do. Repeating the request to the server with the same credential would just be a DOS.

      Prompt the user to re-enter the credential, but leave the username (which is always hard to type) there so that the user can change change it if it is wrong, or can click the "Next" button if it isn't. Similarly, Fill the password field with a series of dots, and clear the dots when you tap on it (or even better, actually populate it with the password so that if the user just typed an extra character at the end, he/she can delete it). Again, the user can just tap the "next" button to resend the same credential if the user is certain that the password is correct.

      Forcing the user to re-enter anything by hand on a phone is a bad bug.

      Netflix is far from alone in this design defect, though; the Tesla app also apparently has this problem, forcing you to type your password every so often for no obvious reason (which in the case of random, machine-generated passwords means switching to Settings, digging into the passwords, copying it to your clipboard, and pasting it into the app — not a very user-friendly workflow).

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  5. Re:Weird shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are trolling. OK. But there is some truth in your missive. Anyone who wants funding just has to throw together some nonsense about gays, transgenders, women, blacks, etc. It really doesn't matter what, just anything at all, and submit it as a proposal for funding. Voila! Instant money. If you want to get paid for research, research the latest fashion. This amounts to just about anything depraved or abnormal or destructive to human society.

  6. My AppleTV 1 is was working "fine" too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dug my Apple TV1 out of the closet and put Kodi on it.
    It worked ok.
    Then I realized that a RPI3 runny Kodi was faster and quite good.
    The ATV1 went to Goodwill.
    An out of the box ATVx system is still quite inflexible to me, and I would always prefer something like Kodi that I can run software that I choose.

  7. Zero sign-in TV: just like in 1961 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zero sign-in reminds me of my first TV that I got in 1961. I could use it without having to log in to any services. All I had to do was turn it on, wait a few seconds for it to warm up, and then the picture would appear.

    1. Re: Zero sign-in TV: just like in 1961 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, back then you didn't need to agree to a EULA, ToS and CoC for your SSO. You just watched TV.

      They had fake news way back then though so some things haven't changed. Let me know when the Professor Stefan Halper revelations come to light... or they have a memorial for the victims of the USS Liberty attack.

    2. Re:Zero sign-in TV: just like in 1961 by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      or just turned the box / built your own on for the "scrambled UHF" channels.

  8. so is this why dolby is cracking down on licensing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ??

    apple's paying for licenses, obviously, and will want to leverage the dolby name as a 'high-end' feature... so apple tells dolby to crack down on 'lesser' products?

  9. Re:so is this why dolby is cracking down on licens by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    you still need an decoder. Comcast / directv / dish? / other cable systems also have it now.

  10. Re:And yet no Scottish. by Wild_dog! · · Score: 1

    Still no Scottish.... then Siri iOS crap.
    Siri and Scottish is a thing to behold.

  11. Hard to read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's hard to read this article as it is such a gasping wankfest "little delights tvos users can't get enough of" fuck off.

  12. blah blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck AppleTV

  13. Re: Weird shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Youâ(TM)ve reached a point in your life where you publicly nod your head in agreement with the latest GNAA missive. Sad!

  14. Sounds very sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the best features of tvOS 11 is called Single Sign-on.

    Maan, this must be a sad world indeed, compared to most 21st century peoples' TV computers.

    Here's how it works: If your TV provider is your Internet provider (a very common occurrence here in the United States)

    I said 21st century, not 20th. Unless this new update has sabnzbdplus integration, I think they are still trying to catch up to last decade. Good grief, how do people tolerate this luddite shit?

    On the bright side, the summary also mentions that these computers have screensavers! So we really are getting into late 20th century tech, and that means Apple TVs should become recognizable to, and usable by, modern people within 10 years.

  15. Full 3D immersive audio by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    All you need for full 3D immersive audio is an Atmos-supporting sound bar

    Sound bars are no match for separate speakers, so they're not "all you need."

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