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Android Messages Will Now Let You Send Texts From Your Computer (www.blog.google)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Google is beginning to roll out desktop browser support for Android Messages, allowing people to use their PC for sending messages and viewing those that have been received on their Android smartphone. Google says the feature is starting to go out to users today and continuing for the rest of the week. Text, images, and stickers are all supported on the web version.

To get started, the Android Messages website has you scan a QR code using the Android Messages mobile app, which creates a link between the two. In today's blog post, Google also goes over numerous other recent improvements to Android Messenger including built-in GIF search, support for smart replies on more carriers, inline link previews, and easy copy/paste for two-factor authentication messages.

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  1. How exciting by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

    Although I seem to recall I could send messages in the early days of the Internet. ICQ, Zephyr, Jabber, OSCAR, YMSG, ...

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    1. Re: How exciting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Which of those were SMS?

      Also, some phones have this via toolset and have had it for decade or more. Though, admittedly, you needed a BT connection to your phone or a physical cable.

    2. Re: How exciting by KiloByte · · Score: 2

      Which of those were SMS?

      There was a number of open SMS gateways, completely free, unauthenticated and anonymous. Give me at least three reasons they are no more...

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    3. Re: How exciting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      huh...day late and a dollar short maybe?

    4. Re:How exciting by mrbester · · Score: 1

      And in more recent times, I remember Pushbullet on Android being able to send / receive SMS until that service got shut down.

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    5. Re:How exciting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still use Pushbullet daily.

    6. Re:How exciting by sacrilicious · · Score: 2
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    7. Re: How exciting by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      SMS just fucking sucks though, since you're tied to cellular networks, SMS is not data and all that shit.

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    8. Re:How exciting by Jumperalex · · Score: 1

      it is. As another poster said, I use it daily to get around the fact that I can't have my phone with me at my desk.

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    9. Re: How exciting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well... there is Telegram, desktop app an all. Even for lennox.

    10. Re:How exciting by antdude · · Score: 1

      WIth SMSes? Only AIM had that. I wished AIM was still around to use it since it was free. :(

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    11. Re:How exciting by johnsie · · Score: 1

      icq, yahoo and aol all had text messages, so does skype

    12. Re: How exciting by mjwx · · Score: 2

      Which of those were SMS?

      There was a number of open SMS gateways, completely free, unauthenticated and anonymous. Give me at least three reasons they are no more...

      1. In most countries the sender pays for the SMS.
      2. In most countries the sender pays for the SMS.
      3. In most countries the sender pays for the SMS.

      Now I know that technically is only one point, but I thought it was big enough to be mentioned thrice.

      The difference is now that most SMS services are now data based, rather than telephone based as they were in ye olde GSM spec.

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    13. Re: How exciting by gnick · · Score: 1

      There was a number of open SMS gateways, completely free, unauthenticated and anonymous.

      I just sent a text from https://voice.google.com/ and it worked fine. Not anonymous, but free SMS. I'm certain I'm missing something here.

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    14. Re:How exciting by bigpat · · Score: 2

      Although I seem to recall I could send messages in the early days of the Internet. ICQ, Zephyr, Jabber, OSCAR, YMSG, ...

      It is really a shame that the IETF didn't get ahead of the curve and simply make the subject optional and specify a more SMS like use case and user interface to go along with email.

      Having to specify a subject and having apps that primarily display messages by subject really has really hurt email. Most of the time you don't need a subject line and it is redundant with the first line of the message. Otherwise the use case is exactly the same and email is universally addressable using the user@domain address rather than a phone number which is locked in to a telecom provider.

      The issue today is universal addressability and routing. Email is an open protocol which is universally addressable and supported by an Internet infrastructure. SMS is a walled off communications protocol which you need gateways to get on the Internet. It happened to gain popularity because cell phone providers made it easier than email (don't have to have a subject, message and recipient, just a message and recipient). But it's big downside is that you can only send SMS to someone with a phone number and you can't send SMS using Internet addresses directly. You need an SMS gateway which seems to add a bunch of routing garbage that makes it less clear who sent what.

    15. Re:How exciting by bigpat · · Score: 1

      Actually technically RFC 2822 says that the subject is optional... so it is really on the app side that we should have made the subject line optional (or even hidden) in the UI.

      https://tools.ietf.org/html/rf...

    16. Re:How exciting by Typing_Ptarmigan · · Score: 1

      When ICQ was new, I wouldn't use it because of the privacy implications: someone would know every time I was connected to the Internet! How quaint.

    17. Re:How exciting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been able to send SMS messages from my computer using BlackBerry Blend for four years. Nice to see that the chumps that killed BlackBerry are finally catching up on a few things.

    18. Re:How exciting by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      With dial-up internet that sort of broadcast of your connection state to your contacts was pretty valuable for those of us not saddled with undue paranoia.

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    19. Re: How exciting by omnichad · · Score: 1

      That text messages sent to you Google Voice number can be received in Hangouts which is already cross-platform. But a while back, they stopped letting Hangouts receive carrier SMS messages to force you to use their new messaging app. Now you can once again read and respond to SMS with your carrier number on your computer. Whatever is old is new again.

    20. Re:How exciting by Albanach · · Score: 1

      It happened to gain popularity because cell phone providers made it easier than email

      You really think so? When SMS became popular, many folk still weren't regularly using email and most of those who did have addresses wouldn't have push email access on their phone.

      What made SMS popular was that it's nearly instantaneous and, particularly at a time when people paid for phone calls or had a limited bundle of minutes, it was generally low-cost.

    21. Re: How exciting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could impersonate as someone else and that is the main reason why they removed open SMS gateways. When you used an open SMS gateway, you also had to enter the phone number who send the SMS. You could use any phone number, there was no check. There were many stories about people who got trolled by open relay SMS.

    22. Re:How exciting by bigpat · · Score: 1

      What made SMS popular was that it's nearly instantaneous and, particularly at a time when people paid for phone calls or had a limited bundle of minutes, it was generally low-cost.

      My experience was the opposite... I paid $0.20 per text message until about 2008 on TMobile and actively discouraged people from texting me, but everyone had email. I was a bit late to SMS for that reason, but still most mobile plans had SMS limits until the mid aughts.

      I could at least read emails for free on my phone with data. Email was and still is more convenient as a free multiplatform communications system. Really the only thing SMS has going for it over email is the twitteresque simplicity... because of limits on subjects and de facto character limits. But the cost was really a barrier for SMS until all plans became unlimited SMS. And still is a barrier in the literal sense that you have to have a paid plan to have SMS versus anyone can get a free email account from multiple providers.

    23. Re:How exciting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chris, you fucking downs syndrome whore.

  2. Bets anyone? by penix1 · · Score: 1

    Anyone want to take bets on how long it takes for the security flaw to show its ugly head that will allow anyone to read your SMS messages?

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    1. Re: Bets anyone? by saloomy · · Score: 1

      I'll take that bet. Apple has been doing this for 5 years with iMessages. The only issue they have had was with people signing into their accounts on friends or relatives machines. You can't blame them for people not understanding though. From a technical perspective, this is pretty secure.

    2. Re: Bets anyone? by e432776 · · Score: 1

      I was just going to say that this feature (SMS/imessage from notebook computer) is a strong draw keeping me in the MacOS/iOS ecosystem. Pushing me out is the new Apple computer hardware plus other hardware not updated for very long.

  3. Email anyone.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why not just use email?

    1. Re:Email anyone.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      AC was talking about the already extant ability to send an email to an email address that is received on a mobile phone as a SMS text.

      https://20somethingfinance.com/how-to-send-text-messages-sms-via-email-for-free/

    2. Re:Email anyone.. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      I think a sort email extension thing would be the best and easiest option to enable cross-platform text messaging across platforms, including sending images/files.

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    3. Re:Email anyone.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But someone can send an email to your phone as a text message through your sms/mms gateway, and you can text back to their email. All wireless providers have one of these.. see link below

      https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17056/~/list-of-mobile-carrier-gateway-addresses

  4. Not new. by WolfgangVL · · Score: 1

    With google voice hooked up to a phone number, you can make and receive calls, as well as sms directly from google hangouts on any compatible computer system.

    There has always been an issue with MMS, but from reading the summary, this looks like an announcement of capabilities that have existed for years already.

    Am I missing something?

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    1. Re:Not new. by stinerman · · Score: 1

      Well they're too stupid to know that all anyone wants is a web client for sending messages that will use a preferably open standard and then fall back on SMS if necessary. Between Voice and Hangouts and Talk they almost had something, but then they went with Allo and just about killed that off already.

      This isn't hard. I'm honestly surprised they're so terrible at it.

    2. Re:Not new. by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Yes, most people don't have the ability to have their cellphone number be their GV number (I think Sprint is the only US operator that offers this.) So while you may receive text messages (and now MMS messages, that's been working for a while) via Hangouts for your GV number, texts sent to your regular cellphone number go to the Messages app and can't (until now?) be accessed via the web, unless your service provider offers the option.

      That's what this fixes. It means you can text using your regular cellphone number via the web.

      (Or supposedly can. I have the very latest version of Messages, launched it from the Play Store just to doubly make sure I'm using the right app, but don't see the menu option. The Play Store lists it as being updated two days ago, and doesn't list this feature, so I'm wondering if they just haven't pushed the update out yet.)

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    3. Re:Not new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sprint dropped Google Voice Integration, but I was able to switch my voice carrier to be Google. My Sprint handset has some dumb number associated with it now but since Voice does what I want it to do, especially with strong filtering on SMS and voicemail transcription, I'm OK with that.

    4. Re:Not new. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Apple, Google and Microsoft should sit down and make one standard that works cross-platform. Trying to tie down users to a platform using apps is one thing, but text messaging should be as platform-independant as email.

      And no, SMS is not cross-platform since it won't work on non-cellular devices (laptops, desktops, etc).

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    5. Re:Not new. by Galactic+Dominator · · Score: 1

      > There has always been an issue with MMS

      As a GV user of MMS, I ask, what issue with MMS?

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    6. Re:Not new. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      My cellphone has a Verizon number and GV number - and both work interchangeably. I don't think there is any issue with using exclusively GV - I do that when traveling internationally to many countries... Works great! GV messages stay in the Voice app, VZ messages stay in the VZ app.

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    7. Re:Not new. by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

      Posted the same thing, glad someone else knows this

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    8. Re:Not new. by pgmrdlm · · Score: 2

      Your missing the point of google voice. It is a single number that can be used for any phone. Make it the primary, and never worry about giving out a new number again. also works with land lines, which also gives you the ability to have sms with land lines.

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    9. Re:Not new. by Solandri · · Score: 1

      Sprint dropped Google Voice integration at the start of this month (your Sprint phone number used to be your Google Voice number). I've been suffering withdrawal symptoms ever since. It was so convenient being able to answer texts on my phone, or do it from my tablet if my phone was on its charger, or do it from my laptop if I needed to type a lengthy response. It'll be nice to get some of this capability back.

    10. Re:Not new. by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I'm not missing the point, I think it's great. But there are plenty of circumstances in which people use both. My cell number predates my GV number by about ten years, I have no desire to change it.

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    11. Re:Not new. by omnichad · · Score: 1

      VZ messages stay in the VZ app.

      In vanilla android, carrier SMS messages default to being routed to the Messages app. Given how terrible most carrier apps are, I'm surprised you haven't tried it at least temporarily.

      GV messages can be read in the GV app, but the Hangouts app offers a much better UI for GV messages and voicemail.

    12. Re:Not new. by WolfgangVL · · Score: 1

      It only seems to deliver to certain carriers.

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    13. Re:Not new. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      I keep them separate - the "carrier phone" stuff is personal, the "Google Voice" stuff is work. It works for me...:)

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    14. Re:Not new. by omnichad · · Score: 1

      They are already currently separate. You used to be able to opt to get both numbers to go to Hangouts, but only until Messages was launched. Still, the UI of Hangouts and Messages beat carrier app and GV for sure.

  5. And Googlie Gets To READ Your Messages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because googlie does what googlie does in the TrumpVerse and it all seems normal.

  6. WOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A feature available on a Mac for years!

    Thanks Google!

    1. Re:WOW! by vux984 · · Score: 2

      "A feature available on a Mac for years!"

      But which only works if you have an apple phone and an apple computer. Thanks Apple. Thanks for nothing.

      Glad to see google doing this. Because im not going to get an iphone and switch to a crappy mac desktop just for SMS.

    2. Re:WOW! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Is "Android Messages" really simple SMS text messages, or is it more like Apple's iMessages?

      The "linking" setup talked about in the summary makes it sounds as though you need an Android device to begin with, which in your oponion would be as stupid as Apple's closed system.

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    3. Re:WOW! by omnichad · · Score: 1

      It's just SMS. It might have hidden support for RCS baked in, but I don't think any carriers offer that yet.

      the summary makes it sounds as though you need an Android device to begin with

      And because it's just SMS, how else would Google get access to your messages to show them on your PC? It has to use your phone as the SMS gateway.

  7. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1

    Sssssh! you'll upset the linux fanbots

  8. would they? by fluffernutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Google wouldn't use this to scan all your texts with non-consenting people........... would they?

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    1. Re:would they? by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

      How is this any different from GMail scanning all your emails from non-consenting people?

    2. Re:would they? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Google wouldn't use this to scan all your texts with non-consenting people........... would they?

      How is this relevant? Either they are already doing it on the phone or they won't do it on the PC. There is absolutely no privacy change here.

    3. Re:would they? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Whether or not they have it stored on their servers it's exactly the same situation?

      Give me a break. If they are encrypting it on the phone and decrypting it on the browser, fine, I'll try it. Otherwise, forget it - more Google "features" that give them a conduit for NSL demands.

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    4. Re:would they? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Wow. Really? Encryption on a phone protects you? You do realise that Android Messages shows your SMS history on the computer screen right?

      You are talking about the relative security risks of a company that has full control over their website which you are using, vs a company that has full control over your phone which you are using. If Google wants to collect your messages you are at no additional risk using their website. If its the NSA you're worried about why the hell are you using a Google phone! The only safe way to message is to not use Android Messages.

      I'm not going to give you a break. I'm going to educate you so you don't end up in some false sense of security while the NSA is watching you sext.

  9. Welcome back to 1975! by Brama · · Score: 2

    When we could send messages cross platform BY DEFAULT, and no one considered this a "feature".

    1. Re:Welcome back to 1975! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      When we could send messages cross platform BY DEFAULT, and no one considered this a "feature".

      In 1975? Just how many people were you emailing (something that didn't become standard until the mid 90s), and how many people were you SMSing (something that didn't become standard in until the 80s)?

      Having only one platform (writing a letter) does not a cross-platform make.

    2. Re:Welcome back to 1975! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When we could send messages cross platform BY DEFAULT, and no one considered this a "feature".

      In 1975? Just how many people were you emailing (something that didn't become standard until the mid 90s), and how many people were you SMSing (something that didn't become standard in until the 80s)?

      Having only one platform (writing a letter) does not a cross-platform make.

      I am not the OP but you are a twat and despite your pride and arrogance are quite ignorant in this matter.

  10. In other news by gweihir · · Score: 1

    For SMS ("texts"), this has worked for a long time. Seems this "great new thing" is a bit behind the times...

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  11. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by jhesse · · Score: 3, Informative

    And anyone else who has an iPhone.

    What would be nice though is if I could send SMS msgs from my Mac to my children's Android phones.

    Sending and receiving SMS messages from the Mac to Android phones works. You need to have your phone number associated with your iMessage/iCloud/Apple ID/whatever. Setup seems kind of non-intuitive, but once it works, you have a log of all your SMS/MMS conversations on the computer.

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  12. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by markdavis · · Score: 1

    >"Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone"

    And could do this for 6+ years with any browser on any platform + Android through Airdroid. Not quite exactly the same, but it certainly works.

    https://www.airdroid.com/

  13. What a fucking breakthrough!!! by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    NOT. I had a palm pilot that could do this over a decade ago.

  14. Um, couldn't we always? by marcle · · Score: 2

    It's easy to send a text from a desktop PC, using any email client.Simply look up the SMS gateway email address, readily available online if you know the recipient's carrier, or you can use their phone# to find their carrier. Every carrier has an SMS/email gateway, and the specific phone number is itself the address. This is all easily found using any search engine. Et voila! Once again, some highly touted "app" simply provides a slick interface to something that was already dirt simple, and thereby collects even more of your personal info, while trying to strengthen your ties to their particular ecosystem.

    1. Re:Um, couldn't we always? by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

      Sending texts is only one piece of the functionality of text messaging.

      Being able to send texts from your computer isn't very useful, if you can't see replies on your computer.

      Another feature missing from your solution is being able to sync stored messages between your phone and your computer.

      Sorry, your solution doesn't work for me.

  15. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What would be nice though is if I could send SMS msgs from my Mac to my children's Android phones.

    You can.

  16. Pulse SMS by digitect · · Score: 1

    I guess Pulse SMS proved there was a market for mobile-desktop SMS linkage by Android-Windows users. I've been using that app for several months because it could text from my computer AND sync between the two. Essentially this also acts as an infinite archive of all my text communications as well. (Assuming a diligently backed up system of the records created.) It's nice to be able to 10-finger type SMS from a keyboard and retain text threads across multiple platforms

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    1. Re: Pulse SMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes had the thought today, "I wonder how long now until Pulse goes under..."

    2. Re:Pulse SMS by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

      I tried one of those apps a few years ago. I liked it, but I didn't trust the app maker to respect the privacy of my messages. For all I knew, they could sell the company to any old sleezebag who wanted to send spam to me.

      You might argue that it's no different with Google. Well, it is. For one thing, Google already knows everything about me, including my texting, so what's the difference using Google software to sync to my computer? Also, Google isn't going away, and every one of their moves is scrutinized by the world. I feel much safer with my data in Google's hands, than a company called "Pulse" or whatever other vendors are out there.

  17. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And anyone else who has an iPhone.

    What would be nice though is if I could send SMS msgs from my Mac to my children's Android phones.

    Sending and receiving SMS messages from the Mac to Android phones works. You need to have your phone number associated with your iMessage/iCloud/Apple ID/whatever.

    Of course I have my phone number associated with my AppleID you dipshit. That's how I am able to send SMS texts from my Mac to other iPhone owners.

    And I could send texts to one of my children when he had an iPhone. Then he switched to an Android phone – same number – and sending SMS texts to him no longer works.

    Maybe you meant that he needs to associate his number with his AppleID? He must have an AppleID, he once had a Mac, but not any more. He probably never registered that number with his AppleID.

    All of you here in this thread who just blithely wave your hands and say "oh yeah, it works––" Maybe you could point to something somewhere that tell how? Because thus far I haven't found it.

    Setup seems kind of non-intuitive, but once it works, you have a log of all your SMS/MMS conversations on the computer.

    No shit, Sherlock. Yeah, thanks, I already know about that. I have that – have had it for years – for my friends who have iPhones.

    Do I sound pissy? You bet.

  18. What's old is new again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gee Google, thanks for adding some of the features that the hangouts app on Chrome had. Can I finally send and receive calls, texts and images through my desktop easily again?

  19. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Apple Messages lets you send text to anything that can at least send/receive SMS. If it sees an Apple device on the other end, it messages through the Internet with rich protocols permitted (unlimited message length, high-res images, etc.). If it sees an infidel device on the other end, it falls back to SMS. And there is a differential message background color to let you know when that happens.

  20. Google voice already does this by pgmrdlm · · Score: 2

    I use google voice as my primary phone number. That is also where I do all of my text messaging. You can log into google voice for all kinds of things off a PC browser other than settings. I text from it all the time because it is easier not to fat finger messages, also can pull up articles for cut and paste. Hell, I tell all women I know to use google voice. You can use a phone number with a different area code. Unlimited blocking. You can mark a phone number as spam, and guess what. They get a message that this number is no longer in service. I don't worry about giving my google voice number out. You piss me off, you are marked as spam. That, you can't track me by my area code. And no, this does NOT include police/911. Thankfully I found this out when they were trying to find me during a last heart attack when I was riding a bike. No matter how often you change phones, or phone numbers. You can always have google voice forward to it.

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    1. Re:Google voice already does this by omnichad · · Score: 1

      And no, this does NOT include police/911.

      Emergency calls use your carrier number anyway, I'm fairly certain.

  21. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1

    Can't believe this is so little known.

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  22. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's broken for you and your son, and fuck knows why, but it generally works fine to send texts to Android phones. Instead of pissing and moaning about it, make an appointment for support with Apple. I'll bet it's a fixable issue

  23. Wherego ICQ, Zephyr, Jabber, OSCAR, YMSG? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    There was one problem with ICQ, Zephyr, Jabber, OSCAR, YMSG, etc from the perspective of the telcos. They listen on a TCP/IP connection to achieve the instantaneous delivery. When deploying to national scale its too much, especially in earlier days when gear on poles was weaker. Because SMS is stateless, notification of a message can be a single bit on the pole. The bit becomes the notification a SMS message is available for delivery.

  24. Android Messages 2018 = Google Voice 2009 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://support.google.com/voice/answer/115116

    I'm glad to see Google 2018 has finally caught up with Google 2009. I resented the fact that once I switched to Project Fi, I could no longer send text messages through my computer since Fi does not allow Google Voice to work with it. It would be simpler if Google just abandoned most other of its multitude of messaging services and put everything on Google Voice.

    1. Re: Android Messages 2018 = Google Voice 2009 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hangouts still allows this and voice calling from your computer. It's the only reason I stick with Fi.

  25. API Integrated by Anton+Sigurjnsson · · Score: 1

    If they would allow for API integration with MMS support. For reading and sending SMS, that would be a BIG hit for us.

  26. Whatsapp web by weberjn · · Score: 1

    Whatsapp web is desktop browser support for Whatsapp. I don't see any more need for desktop message support.

  27. Who actually uses SMS? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    This is a genuine question here, but who actually widely uses SMS? The last few countries I've lived in, (and current country as well) have almost practically standardised on some form of 3rd party messaging systems. WeChat, WhatsApp, hell I used to send more Facebook Messages than I did text messages.

    In my current country complete strangers will WhatsApp you in a reply to online adverts for example. It is just a given that no one uses SMS, and when I check my message history for SMS I see 4 senders:
    - Vodaphone telling me I either crossed a national border or have an unheard voicemail.
    - My bank sending me a confirmation notice that money has moved.
    - The government sending me a 2FA token
    - An airline sending me a link to the bording pass.

    Okay I lied it's actually 7 senders, there's 4 airlines in the list.

    Is SMS still a thing in the USA? I thought it costs money to send SMS over there. Here it's free and people still don't use it.

    1. Re:Who actually uses SMS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most cell plans come with free/unlimited texting. With the market split between iphone and android, it's still heavily used (since not everything can default to imessage). I can't get my mom or sister to install whatsapp, nor is there any real reason for them to do so. Texting works perfectly fine with certain groups of people. "it just works" and is there out of the box as soon as you turn your phone on the first time. (I use whatsapp, signal, fbm for my groups of friends but that's probably 60% of my overall communication)

    2. Re:Who actually uses SMS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The country I'm in had standardized on MSN Messenger for IM, but that was before smartphones and Failbook and now it's 100% dead.
      I don't think people have standardized on Whatsapp or Snapchat or whatever? Most common would be Failbook IM, which works on desktops not only smartphones.

      To use Whatsapp I would need :
      - a smartphone
      - a data plan
      - installing and/or setting up Whatsapp

      Dumbphones are disappearing, slowly (I spotted a nurse using one - she manages to visit her customers' homes without an Internet phone. Duh!)
      Many have a smartphone with no 3G/4G internet on it. Maybe that's because of being in a rich, old mid-size country with good infrastructure. If you're poor (but not homeless), you can always use the desktop or laptop instead. Ask for wifi codes around if you don't have your own residential Internet.
      Some people buy phone service with cash (where they sell tobacco and cigarettes) and get 10 days of unlimited voice, but about a half gigabyte of Internet. They may burn it in a few seances of youtube, or not bother with Internet on the phone in general.
      Meanwhile, everyone has been using SMS for 15 years and they went from cheap to free.

      SMS works instantly and even if your wifi stops working (because you're leeching on your neighbor and it's raining, or you were using a semi-public hotspot and the neighbor who had the ISP home router providing it moved) or even if you were out and/or not connected to wifi in the first place.

  28. Jolla/Sailfish OS by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Jolla/Sailfish OS user here. I can SSH into my phone from the PC and send an SMS, for bonus nerd points: https://together.jolla.com/que...

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  29. Sort of reinventing the wheel again.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been using Push Bullet for at least a year. Why can't these companies with endless budgets come up with something new vs stealing other folks ideas?

  30. More webapp crap, stop flogging a dead horse. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SMS testing from your browser isn't going to bolster web-apps, google likely are trying this so it's easier to 'scan' your texts for whatever informatics they can get from it (not just your texts, but what OS, browser, times you're likely to not be holding/using your phone, etc ,etc)

    Just use Telegram or a decent desktop jabber/xmpp/etc/etc client which you have more control over

    (and who uses SMS texting nowdays?)

  31. Be prepared for a new era of SMS spam by mysidia · · Score: 1

    Now that malware can just by infecting someone's computer send SMS text messages using someone's phone......

  32. KDEConnect by c0d3g33k · · Score: 2

    An alternative for Linux users is KDEConnect (may work on Mac/Windows with some effort, but not supported). Not quite the same and requires an application installed on the desktop computer rather than working over the web, but offers more functionality and definitely more privacy.

    A short features list from the github (https://github.com/KDE/kdeconnect-kde) page:

      - Shared clipboard: copy and paste between your phone and your computer (or any other device).
      - Notification sync: Read and reply to your Android notifications from the desktop.
      - Share files and URLs instantly from one device to another.
      - Multimedia remote control: Use your phone as a remote for Linux media players.
      - Virtual touchpad: Use your phone screen as your computer's touchpad and keyboard.

    This operates over your existing WiFi network using TLS encryption.

    The SMS support is still a work in progress, but currently you can receive notifications on your desktop of incoming text messages and reply to them. Can't initiate yet, but that's coming.

    https://community.kde.org/KDEC...

  33. So you can do this with Cortana, and Windows 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can do that with windows 10 and Cortana on Android and have been for quite awhile, nothing to see hear move along.

    And to all the windows 10 mobile haters, you could do that 2 years ago with windows 10 and Windows 10 mobile.

    Windows 10 Mobile was Soooooo.... much better that Android, I hope every day for a MS refresh of the platform or a Surface Phone or what ever, so I can have that great platform back.

  34. Does it really send sms/txt from your computer? by karlandtanya · · Score: 1

    I'd love a way to actually send texts from my computer rather than a way to tell my phone to originate a text message. I spend most of my workday in a lab with internet access, but no signal to my phone. If that's what google is doing, good for them! I'd sign up, even if they charged a fee similar to the service I use now.

    But I suspect google hasn't come up with anything new here. Why do I need to scan a QR with my phone? Why is my phone even involved? Because I'm not sending texts from my computer; I'm sending them from my phone.
    And for the pedantic twit who insists that "you typed it into your computer, thus you sent a text from there". Nope. What left my computer was neither a text message nor an sms. It was just a command for the phone to originate such a message.
    This would hardly be google "innovating"; only using the old MS "embrace/extend/extinguish" practice.
    Google gives it away for "free", but of course they're capturing and selling your attention, so it's not really "free".

    Anyhow, please somebody explain how I am mistaken here and I can really send sms and text from my computer (rather than from my smart phone, which is powered off in my glove box), and I'll reply with an apology and thanks for enlightening me!

    I'd love to be wrong here, but not holding my breath.

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    1. Re:Does it really send sms/txt from your computer? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Why do I need to scan a QR with my phone? Why is my phone even involved? Because I'm not sending texts from my computer; I'm sending them from my phone.

      That's right. I don't think it's possible (or at least reliable) to spoof SMS - it has to originate from the carrier network. If you leave your phone at home with signal, it would probably work just fine.

    2. Re:Does it really send sms/txt from your computer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, and you could use some sort of gateway service instead - contacting over the internet a computer with 2G modem connected to it (or 2G/3G/4G). Which might be some cheap router or computer or smartphone you keep at home but you would need to set all that up.
      This would work but you would have some expenses and it would use a separate phone number from your real phone.
      (Carriers seem to insist on using an "M2M" SIM card for embedded computers etc. using a modem to send SMS...)

  35. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by pnutjam · · Score: 2

    KDE connect lets me do this.

  36. text email Gateways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Provider Email-to-SMS Address Format
    AllTel number@text.wireless.alltel.com
    AT&T number@txt.att.net
    Boost Mobile number@myboostmobile.com
    Cricket number@sms.mycricket.com
    Sprint number@messaging.sprintpcs.com
    T-Mobile number@tmomail.net
    US Cellular number@email.uscc.net
    Verizon number@vtext.com
    Virgin Mobile number@vmobl.com

    Send texts from anything that can send email.

    1. Re:text email Gateways by omnichad · · Score: 1

      And replies don't come back to your number. While that's useful in some cases, it's not helpful for maintaining continuity.

  37. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by jackmon7311 · · Score: 1

    ... or Pushbullet

  38. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by omnichad · · Score: 2

    And I could send texts to one of my children when he had an iPhone. Then he switched to an Android phone – same number – and sending SMS texts to him no longer works.

    And did he de-register the phone number number from iMessage? If not, Apple is trying to route the text to a device that's not picking up the message. A severe lacking on Apple's part, but extremely fixable.

  39. Re:Whatsapp web - and it's better! by gosand · · Score: 2

    WhatsApp Web is great, and WA is so much better than SMS. You can send much larger messages, and it handles large attachments. I sent a friend a 30MB PDF via WA, and I get photos/videos daily from various friends across the country in a big group chat. The only downside of WA is that Facebook bought them, and up to that point FB didn't have any of my info.

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  40. I hope the authenticate the heck out of this by OppMan29 · · Score: 1

    last thing we need is more SPAM

  41. Re:Been doing this for 10 years with my Mac+iPhone by chihowa · · Score: 1

    This apparently doesn't happen anymore.

    I just moved the SIM card from an iphone to an android phone and sent texts to the number from another iphone. The phone with the SIM always got the texts and the color of the message bubble accurately reflected the method of delivery (blue: imessage, green: SMS).

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