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T-Mobile and Sprint Ask For Merger Approval (axios.com)

According to documents filed Monday, T-Mobile and Sprint have formally asked the FCC to approve their proposed merger. Axios reports: In their filing, the companies said that the deal would "generate substantial public interest benefits for the customers of T-Mobile and Sprint and for U.S. wireless customers as a whole, and do not give rise to any competitive harms." "The merger unlocks the door to new broadband choices and capabilities for consumers across the country while accelerating the arrival of transformative 5G services that will produce innovation, jobs, and economic growth for our country," the companies said. Basically, the two companies have to prove to the FCC that the deal benefits consumers, and avoid antitrust concerns currently being investigated by the Department of Justice.

48 comments

  1. "Ask" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hahahahaha

    1. Re: "Ask" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then the other fat rich executive bastard turned to his business partner and said "yeah, and antitrust.". Hahahahahha

      "Stop, stop" exclaimed the third, gasping for air in between the laughter. "You're making me choke on my scotch."

  2. They omitted .... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... "It's good for children."

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    1. Re:They omitted .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      only good for american born white children.

      tmobile and sprint will fund walls around detention camps, support the separation of parents from their children, and provide ridiculously priced pay-per-minute cell phone service to detainees to call their kids being abused 1000 miles away.

      merger approved!

    2. Re:They omitted .... by Tablizer · · Score: 1, Funny

      ... "It's good for children."

      such as the Toddler in Chief.

    3. Re:They omitted .... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      "Republican" is not spelled, "tmobile."

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  3. Weeeiiirrrddd. by RickyShade · · Score: 1

    There is just something that sounds REALLY weird about T-Mobile and Sprint joining forces. Sprint wants that GSM network, huh.

    1. Re: Weeeiiirrrddd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they want a merged subscriber base / revenue stream, and spectrum to build 5G and compete with the big boys. 2G and 3G networks are being phased out. VoLTE is the near future.

    2. Re:Weeeiiirrrddd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they aren't competing against one another, then they can rip us off with impunity.

      Everyone knows this. Everyone involved knows that this is exactly why they want to merge. All the debate about the economic impact and benefits, etc., is just lies intended to win hearts and minds.

      As Jesus so succinctly put it, "To those who have, more will be given. To those who do not have, even what they have will be taken away."

    3. Re:Weeeiiirrrddd. by Solandri · · Score: 1
      Sprint already bought and merged with Nextel years ago. Nextel used iDEN - the only other major network type which used TDMA like GSM.

      At this point in time, there's very little difference between GSM and CDMA networks.
      • The only major difference is in how voice is handled. GSM uses TDMA, CDMA use CDMA.
      • Both GSM and CDMA use CDMA for 3G data (GSM uses wideband CDMA).
      • Both GSM and CDMA uses LTE for 4G data. LTE is predominantly OFDMA, though a few bands are dynamically assigned TDMA (including one of Sprint's LTE bands)
      • Both GSM and CDMA use SIM cards, since they're required for LTE. The CDMA networks just don't use them for non-LTE functions.
  4. I'll put two bucks on... by sillivalley · · Score: 2

    ...the merger being blocked (or at least impeded) by AT&T

    Maybe not in a manner easily traced back to AT&T, but isn't that what friends are for?

    1. Re:I'll put two bucks on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And by Verizon. They don't want any real competition.

    2. Re: I'll put two bucks on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why block it? One less to collude with.

    3. Re: I'll put two bucks on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For there can be only One!

    4. Re:I'll put two bucks on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sprint is in financially precarious position and it's only matter of time before they can't pay their debts. Their options are either merge with T-Mobile or companies like T-Mobile, AT&T, and Verizon will scoop up what's left of Sprint. T-Mobile doesn't have enough customer base to build up 5G like AT&T and Verizon. FCC should consider blocking this deal will mean allowing a duopoly with T-Mobile existing as a crippled company. If they care about the competition in the market place, they'll approve this deal to keep T-Mobile/Sprint competitive. Now they skeptics will say the strengthened T-Mobile/Sprint will begin to act just like the other two but guy will charge of the combined company will be the current T-Mobile CEO, John Legere. Say what you will about him, but he wont be sitting in his laurels.

  5. NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unless they pay me 70 million dollars in the span of 15 seconds with a single transaction in US currency and it fills my bank account.

    Otherwise, they will have to pay monthly payments of 10 million for 15 years in the same manner as previously mentioned.

  6. Re:Better than the Trump / Russia merger... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uneducated people have to keep bitching about everything that doesn't go their own way. The shit stain on a thong has a higher I.Q. than ^

  7. Re:Better than the Trump / Russia merger... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and that, my friends, is the sound of a paid shill s'ing the f up

  8. If by Children by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you mean the children of the politicians they bribed to get this approved I can't argue.

    Seriously, we need to get people to stop voting for any politician who accepts money from corporations and/or PACs. It should be a litmus test. Why the hell would you vote for somebody who admits to bribes?

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    1. Re:If by Children by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Bribes are as common as privacy loss.

      We don't really give a shit.

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  9. And here comes the monopolies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are getting trumped.

  10. I have a better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Every state must have at least 3 independent suppliers. Barring that, the top providers are barred from entering the market.

    You can merge all you want so long as customers have a reasonable option to use a competitor

  11. What does T-Mobile get out of this? by SmaryJerry · · Score: 1, Insightful

    They get a horrible brand name, horrible network, terrible spectrum on a different frequency with less propagation and less building penetration that Sprint's lease of will expire in 10 years or so. I guess as long as they dissolve sprint completely and just take their subscribers it might not be horrible.

    1. Re:What does T-Mobile get out of this? by SmaryJerry · · Score: 1

      Forgot to mention a large amount of high interest rate debt.

    2. Re: What does T-Mobile get out of this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was a T-Mobile customer for quite a while on the 2gb North American data only plan for $20 with hangouts, but hangouts has become bonkers lately so I jumped onto sprints $15 unlimited everything they offered. Itâ(TM)s about $20 bucks after xtra charges with voice. Got this plan in hopes of the merger coming through. Have to admit, I havenâ(TM)t been disappointed in my area, which is what matters to me. So either way Iâ(TM)m ok.

    3. Re:What does T-Mobile get out of this? by Mr.Radar · · Score: 1

      160 MHz of band 41 (2.5 GHz) spectrum is a 5G goldmine. Most 5G will be deployed in the mm-wave bands above 6 GHz which will have absolutely minuscule building penetration even compared to band 41. Sprint's band 26 (800 MHz) spectrum will also be useful in areas where T-Mobile doesn't have band 12 (700 MHz) licenses before handsets with band 71 (600 MHz) become common. Sprint's spectrum isn't necessarily terrible, it's just very lopsided towards high-band (which is great for throughput but pretty bad for coverage) and Sprint has not done a good job of managing it (partly due to lack of capital to invest in their network and partly due to incompetence).

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  12. Re:Better than the Trump / Russia merger... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, uneducated people chose for president a compulsive liar, scammer, con-artist who's accumulated more than 1300 civil lawsuits against him in his carreer, and who said about his supporters "I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot someone, and I still wouldn't lose any voters".

    THAT is what uneducated people do.

  13. Re:Better than the Trump / Russia merger... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And that my friends is an idiot who thinks 'shill' is someone they disagree with.

  14. Ajit pai will say no by gearloos · · Score: 0

    Ajit Pai, being a good Verizon employee, would never let this go through.... unless they pay him more. Then anythings possible with that $h!7 tard.

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  15. Leaving T Mobile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea, I won't be on T Mobile any longer.

  16. There can be only one. by EnsilZah · · Score: 1

    Highlander was a cautionary tale about the corporate ecosystem.

  17. So what changed since 2015? by atrex · · Score: 0

    IIRC there were talks of a Sprint acquiring T-Mobile USA back in 2015 and it died off due to regulatory concerns, so what's different now? Oh right, people that are far easier to bribe are now in office.

    They had also tried to sell off T-Mobile USA to AT&T back in 2011, but the DOJ blocked that and T-Mobile netted some very nice contract termination bonuses (both money and spectrum) from AT&T in the process.

    Deutsche Telekom (T-Mobile's Germany based parent company) has been crying that T-Mobile USA is bleeding money and trying to off-load it on someone else since the first failed sale attempt back in 2011. But maybe it's all just a smoke screen to try and get regulators to back off from them so they can make a fast buck.

    1. Re:So what changed since 2015? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In 2015 it was Sprint buying T-Mobile.

      In 2018 it's T-Mobile buying Sprint.

      T-Mobile has been making significant strides in customer recruiting and retention, and passed Sprint in total customers in August, 2015 - it's a much more healthy company since 2011.

    2. Re: So what changed since 2015? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > "Oh right, people that are far easier to bribe are now in office."

      It's almost as if you haven't been paying attention.

  18. Oligopolies by sjbe · · Score: 1

    You can merge all you want so long as customers have a reasonable option to use a competitor

    A reasonable perspective though remember that oligopolies are a thing and can be just as bad as a monopoly. It's not clear that going from 4 major wireless providers to 3 provides any benefit to consumers but it's pretty obvious how it might hurt them.

    In some cases a monopoly is actually the most economically efficient. Having multiple companies run power lines to your house is actually more expensive than having a single well regulated monopoly for example. Same with water lines and other utilities. Typically these are natural monopolies. But these sorts of situations are exceptions and don't seem applicable for wireless services if they are being properly regulated.

    1. Re:Oligopolies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      single well regulated monopoly

      You had the CEOs and shareholders on board with your idea until you said that.

      You will never see a "well regulated" monopoly, at least not in the US, if the companies pushing their mergers like this have their way. The whole point is to make it so they can charge whatever they want for their service and leave you no other choice except to pay what they want or do without. Which "do without" is increasingly becoming the more difficult choice to make as more and more of society expects you to have a connected 24/7/365 lifestyle that they know everything about.

      Economic efficiency doesn't include fees and surcharges meant to increase corporate profits. Which is what these mergers are all about. Being able to charge whatever and provide the minimal amount of service possible to maximize their profits as much as possible, without having to worry about a competitor who charges less or provides better service. Those last two are the only major limiters of their profits barring any form of regulations, and the only two which are profit motivated. Hence why removing the competition through buyouts and corporate mergers is the best option. No competition = No limits on profit && No service improvement requirements.

      Sorry if this idea runs up against other's "Corporations are just entites just trying to make a profit and would never intentionally cause harm to society" mantra, but corporations are made up of humans, and humans are not uncorruptable. When the humans that make up a corporation become corrupt they can, and often do, cause harm to society. The reason why we require multiple entities in a given market isn't to be economically wasteful, it's to limit the amount of damage a corporation can do to society if it becomes corrupt. By ensuring there are corrective options for society to take immediately if a corporation decides to abuse it's customers. Instead of society having to suffer through the need to wait for a court proceeding or petition the government to step in.